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And if you bring him on, I might just crap my pants. Get fucked, faggot. Right, let's go.
Can you hear us, sir? Hey, what's going on, guys? How you doing, bro?
I'm good. How are you guys doing? Well, you know, we're just watching the fucking clown show. We're enjoying the circus. What about you? Same, man. Same. Have you been seeing all the shenanigans going on? Looks like a repeat. Oh, bro. Like it. What I'm scared of.
It's not just her winning, but I just said it before you came on. I don't know if you heard. I said, if the mafia shoots someone, they kill the witnesses. So what's their cleanup op going to be? Like, are we going to have social media for much longer? Are we going to be allowed to talk about this? Are we going to be allowed to breathe? Or is the cleanup op to just lock us all up and delete us all again?
Honestly, that's really my biggest concern is the tech censorship. I think that's the central issue. Obviously, Rumble and X have been so critical. I think they've changed the landscape in some ways even more than Trump. You take the foot off people's neck, you take the boot out of everybody's face, and then you're able to actually get people to activate. You're able to get people the information. I think we've all noticed everybody's gotten a lot more red pill than awake in the past year.
everything to do with free speech on the internet. And if Kamala wins, I think even if Trump wins,
there's a good chance the regime is going to mobilize and shut us down. I think that's like maybe like the central issue of the campaign.
So that I'm very concerned about that as well. So what shenanigans have happened so far that you say is a repeat of 2020? Because we've been busy running our mouths, but I can see here...
the electoral college votes or whatever it is here, but what's happened that we may have missed?
Well, you know, there's always nonsense. Every four years there's goofy stuff. But already they talked about in Georgia and Fulton County, there was apparently a bomb threat called in and they said it was called in from a Russian IP address. Of course, the Russian hacker. Oh, yeah. Well, and here's the best part. They called it in in a black majority polling location and they've now extended the hours so they can vote past the deadline for when they're supposed to shut down because of the bomb threat.
So needless to say, we know who that benefits. There was a threat of a mass shooting. I think this was in Michigan, but I'm not sure.
Some guy said he was going to go and kill Christians if Trump wins, going to go and do a mass casualty act of violence.
And then in some states, it's just the usual stuff. You know, they're plugging in a space heater that blows up the election management system. Milwaukee, they're talking about counting the mail-in ballots at a separate location at 1 a.m. So it's the usual stuff. You know, we'll see. I mean, I hope they make it too big to rig. Yeah.
Or I should say that's what, because as you guys know, I'm actually not voting for Trump this year. We're going to talk about that in a second. For your sake.
Yes, but for your sake as the Trump supporters, you know, you guys are going to want it to be too big to rig. Because I think they're going to try and they're going to do this Red Mirage bullshit all over again. But isn't that the basic competition now? The competition is no longer... Because you know, all this democracy freedom bullshit and you and I disagree on some things, but I do enjoy your geopolitical view. But I'm a little bit more perhaps second and third world-ist than you. I am Western world first.
I do consider myself more English than American, truthfully, but I do think it's kind of unfair that we blow the fuck out of all these poor countries for nothing and say it's about democracy and freedom, and then we rig it ourselves.
And I do kind of feel bad for them. I feel bad for the farmer who's just praying and just wants his wife to shut up and listen to him and we drop a fucking warhead on his head.
You know, I think it's kind of mean. And we all these elections around the world are different systems, right? You have some of them that perhaps may be fair. And then you have the Venezuelan election, which is which team can rig it better.
And then you have the American system, which is a landslide versus a rig. I mean, isn't this just ridiculous that we know it's landslide versus rig? I mean, which one's gonna, which one's gonna take it? Democracy! I mean, isn't it fucking stupid in the first place?
Oh, yeah, total. I mean, you either win by two billion, you know, Trump either wins 300 percent of the vote or they're going to rig it. You know, they're going to get the ballots got flooded. Literally four years ago, they said a pipe burst in the room where they were counting the ballots and they soaked the room so they couldn't count them for weeks. It's like third world. Like, is this Iraq? Is this Yemen? Like, where are we conducting this election?
to these people. I think we should rule them, but like benevolently. You know, the problem is we have this other faction running our country. They don't even think we're human beings. And
So they're like, wipe them out, finish the job, kill them all. I'm Catholic.
It's sort of like our burden. It's sort of like our burden as Americans, so to speak, to take care of them. Because I agree, it is unfair that they get killed like that. Yeah, well, I know what you're saying about this, let's say no names, but this secret power controlling America. With me, that's an issue for a lot of people when they're like, oh, well, how could you vote for Trump when he's...
pro-israel, pro-APAC, pro-this, how can you vote for them? My answer is as simple as this. If I have to hire a groundskeeper
to keep my garden tended, my garden. And I've got the choice of two groundskeepers, and both groundskeepers keep feeding an ugly, retarded, aggressive dog that lives just outside my house and bites my kids. Yeah.
I'll choose the one that's going to make my garden nicer, because there isn't an option of choosing a groundskeeper who isn't feeding the retarded homeless dog outside that bites my kids. There isn't an option on the table. So I'm looking for who could take care of the domestic issues the best, because both of them like feeding the retarded animal. Does that make any sense to you?
So that's how I have to overlook it because I'm choosing a president of the United States. I'm choosing a man to tend to my garden and look after my house.
All of them are retarded when it comes to this stupid fucking animal. Let's hear next. Why are you not voting Trump? Yeah, let go.
Tell us. Yeah. So, you know, I voted Trump in 16. I voted Trump in 20. But, you know, the big problem in Trump's first term was he hired really bad personnel. And he talked about that on Joe Rogan. He ran a great campaign in 16. The rhetoric was great. The message was great. That's the movement I signed up for. But then when he actually moved into Washington, he was like, you know, I'm going to go to Washington.
He had to hire like 10,000 people, five to 10,000 people, which he didn't really have. You know, he doesn't when he started the campaign, it was him and like five people. You got to hire 10,000 political experts, including a cabinet and so on. So he really relied upon the GOP to fill up those jobs. And I think that's a big reason the Trump administration wasn't a huge success. Illegal immigration was not really taken care of. Legal immigration didn't go down. They didn't bring us out of any of the wars.
Iraq, Afghanistan. And so I thought after January 6th, he would have purged all the disloyal people and hired all the loyal people. But the opposite happened. He rewarded the disloyal people. So Project 2025 was made up of loyal, real patriots, nationalists.
He just vowed him eight times. He brought in to run his campaign Chris Lasavita, who wanted him overthrown after Jay Sixth.
brought in Vance. And I know, you know, maybe you guys like Vance. I'm super skeptical of him. Vance was a never Trumper. He comes from American Enterprise Institute. He's a protege, Peter Thiel, who is a CIA contractor. And so I said, we're really getting a repeat of the first term. Jared Kushner and his allies will pick the personnel. It's going to be all these shills. It's going to be all these hacks. And I think when you look at the policies, what we're going to wind up with is
We're going to get corporate tax cut. We're going to get maybe fewer illegal immigrants, but way more legal immigrants. And I think that, you know, you're right. Trump is going to be the better president, but it is going to redefine Trumpism to mean something else. And it'll go from being nationalism and authentic and, you know, grassroots to really recapitulating to the establishment and becoming like, you know, they're calling it colorblind meritocracy.
So I'm very concerned about how they're going to snuff out the real right wing, you know, by by putting Trump's face on the same establishment. That's my concern. I agree with nearly everything you've said.
But my question to you, sir, why don't you vote Trump just to laugh at girls when they can't have a, when they have mental breakdowns and just make the liberals pissed off? Don't you just want to troll the world?
Like, who cares? I do. Well, because I want to troll Ben Shapiro. I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather see Ben Shapiro cry on election night. I'd rather see him crying anyway. I mean, yeah, he cries a lot. I think the thing is here, I agree with a lot of the things you're saying politically. I understand exactly what you're saying, but I still think a Trump victory is important because I think the culture will shift and that will move the Overton window in a direction because...
That's the reason why
I'm gonna be semi-sensible for a second. Not many people understand why when you make an edgy joke or you say women can't fucking drive, they're all dumb or you say something racist, etc. It's important you push the boundaries of what's acceptable and push the boundaries of what people have a mental breakdown over so you can move the Overton window
back into a space where it's sensible to come up with ideas. Because currently right now, the ideas you have, or the idea of even having a border defended with lethal force, like most countries do, is so outside of the Overton window, a politician couldn't even suggest it.
and we have to move the Overton window back, which is a cultural thing.
I think Trump winning would be good for the overall masculine culture. I mean...
I don't know. Of course, I can't do the data, but men are less likely to listen to a bunch of girl boss bullshit if Trump's in charge. And I think that the culture shift...
might be enough to be able to allow us to have these important conversations later on. That's why I think a Trump victory is still so important. Plus, I want to troll all the dorks.
I basically agree with you. I just think that, you know, there are good reasons to vote for Trump. I think there's good reasons not to. And I'm pretty ambivalent about it. I kind of went back and forth. I would say, though, to that point specifically...
In some ways, the Trump campaign now is a lot less radical than it was before. And you could it's sort of mixed because you're right. Like they did have signs that said mass deportations at the convention. And that's huge because they were talking about amnesty 10 years ago. Now they're holding up signs that say that.
It's like you can't overstate what a big deal that is. At the same time, the people inside are chipping away. And so, for example, in the platform, which Trump personally edited himself this year, they dropped opposition to abortion and gay marriage. They're also now saying they're in favor of legal immigration. And this is really bad because...
You know, specifically, they said they're going to staple green cards to diplomas, meaning give foreign students permanent residence. They did this in Australia. They did it in Canada. Now in Australia, 4% of the population is foreign students. And they're trying to shut it down. Liberal governments, liberal countries, Canada and Australia, they're trying to shut down the visas because it's too much even for them.
getting us to support legal immigration and like redefining identity. And I would say thinking ahead to 28,
This is an important point. Vance is almost surely the successor in the air to MAGA. Vance is not radical at all. People think he is, but he's not.
You know, he married someone who's not white. You could argue and people said it's racist to say that maybe. But it's like that guy doesn't value his identity. He said he married outside his culture because he hates his own culture. So it's like that guy's going to run as MAGA and he's going to have a pretty good claim to be MAGA. Now, let's say someone more radical runs against him. It's really splitting hairs. You can't go to the voters and say, well, I'm against race mixing like that doesn't play.
someone more radical to say, I'm a real nationalist, vote me, not Haley. So it's really a dialectical thing where Trumpism is being diluted. And in 28, when he's not in the running, they're going to dilute it further. And that'll be seen as a radical option. No one's going to run to the right of that with any credibility. I'm deeply concerned about the backsliding. So I know for a lot of people, this is a lot more complex and people might say autistic than like, yeah, Trump's
But we have been outmaneuvered for 50 years. Real nationalists like Pat Buchanan, the paleocons, they've been outmaneuvered for 50 years by neocons.
It's about to happen again. And unless we get smart, you know, this is the fate if Trump wins. So I'm just so concerned about that outcome. No, I understand. That's why the conservative of today was the liberal of five, ten years ago. They're constantly moving the window to the left. I completely understand what you're saying. And perhaps it's just me being idealistic and believing that it's masculinity outside of politics itself.
That's always going to be the barrier to this insanity. The problem with America now is that even the straight men are faggots.
The problem is that if you talk to most dudes, they're fucking homos. And all these white dudes for Kamala are all faggots. All these liberal TikTok dudes are faggots. They're all fucking faggots. That's why they're sitting here begging for a woman to be their boss.
And if you just reinstall the basic tenets of masculinity, I like to think you have more people who will stand up and say no and slow down the sliding. I agree that we've slidden so far now to the left. The Overton window is so far to the left. It's actually truly crazy.
Like the fact that there is no right wing who says gays shouldn't be in power. That's not allowed to be said anywhere in the right wing. That's outside of the window of acceptable ideas. That's considered some kind of crazy insanity.
Exactly. Some kind of crazy, insane person where 20, 30 years ago it was standardized and accepted.
But isn't it masculinity that's the barrier to all things? Hasn't it always been men who say no?
men stand up and get a sword and say no that's enough and unless you have a masculine spirit inside of men they're never going to resist anything
which is why I think Trump's victory can do more than just the political side. I think it can be a cultural shift in regards to just men being men, being, you know, make fun of girls again. None of you can drive. You're on your period. Shut the fuck up. And I think that as silly as people think that is, that's actually important to retain the fabric of America.
I totally agree. And I get shit on that for all the time. I mean, I said this the other week and they clipped it up. Anthony Fantano's like, why is he wearing a SpongeBob hoodie? Because I said, now the right wing, all they do is shit on blacks. I said, what about women? They're afraid to shit on women. I said, like, women are losing us the election. And everyone said, you're blaming white women? Blame black people. I'm like, no, it's blacks and women. Like, you can blame both.
But like, fuck these like straight girlfriend, boyfriend people. I was talking about it the other night. These guys, they date these girls. They look like dykes or sluts. They have the makeup caked on. These like pixie cuts. I want to fucking punch them in the face. Guys go around calling themselves boyfriends. They live with their girlfriends. They have no kids. It's just as sterile as being a bachelor or being gay. You might as well be gay. You should be polygamous like you guys. Like that's fucking based. Or an incel like me.
Because, you know, playing the field, it's the gayest thing he could do. So I agree. But I will say this.
It's not enough to just be a man, because you're right, and Trump brings that back.
You also have to collectivize based on your interest. And this is something that white men are not allowed to do. And I think if you look at Trumpism, it's kind of part of that. Like Tucker Carlson, for example. I like Tucker a lot. I do. I'm a little suspicious of some things, but he says a lot of good things. One bad thing he says, though, is this.
He says that when white people collectivize around their race, he says, that's like Nazism. And that's just as bad as the left. And I won't support that. And it's like, well, we kind of need to do that. And we also need to do it as Christians and as Americans. And I question whether the Trump, you know, colorblind meritocracy, they support a certain country. I question whether they'll ever let us do that. And if the white people involved in it are, you know, are they thinking that way? I'm not so sure.
that it is building men back up. And I think that is one of the benefits, one of the net benefits, but,
You know, it is going to be a very small contingent that saved the country that is super political. And those people.
They need to be aware of who our real friends and enemies are. And, you know, a lot of people like, yeah, go ahead. No, no, no. I understand everything you're saying, but the bottom line of if even especially some of these radical ideas, when you have a radical idea, the bottom line of it is you have to have the capability to defend it.
So if you're gonna, if we're talking about inspiring masculinity, for someone to stand up and say,
fuck the Jews or I don't care. You can't be in power. You're black. You have to be prepared to fight the black man in front of you.
So a lot of this is to a degree, it's still masculinity based. I mean, it's easy to stand up and say certain things when you know there's going to be a degree of violence. If you're not prepared for the violence that comes from your ideas.
then you're just going to go with the ideas that don't lead to violence, which is why women vote the way they do anyway, because they can't defend themselves. So a lot of the ideas you have
are considered radical.
I'm not even saying I agree with them. I'm not a white person, but they're considered radical ideals. And my point is, if you want enough white men to stand up and say, no, this is a white country, it's going to be white.
then you need to have white men ready to fight the niggers.
Because it's going to fucking go off. That's what's going to happen. And let me tell you from experience. Awesome niggers are ready to fight. Awesome niggers can fight. So there's going to be a problem, right? So...
I'm saying that even by installing masculinity back then, the more masculine a society becomes,
the more likely it is or the more capable of it is of having radical ideals outside of the socially acceptable and also
The people, the few radicals, if they're masculine enough, they can also impose their will, which is also very important. Like, why do elections even happen in the first place? Elections are supposed to be a replacement for war. That's the whole point of it. To avoid the war to see who the leader is, let's just have an election.
So if you have a few people who can impose their will,
Because they're so masculinely based and they're not afraid of violence. I think they're going to be surprised how that can affect the whole landscape of ideals. I think the problem we have now is that a lot of white people agree with the things you say. And they think the things you think. In fact, I know that because I speak to them. But they're just afraid to say it to me.
And I'm like, bro, I agree with you. If I was white, I'd be pissed. Like, I see it. But they're afraid to say it to me, even though I'm on their side, because they know they can't walk down Atlanta and say that shit.
Right. No, you're right. And I think you're right that masculinity is a precondition
to things getting better because you're totally right that if the population's pussified, especially the white people, they'll never rise up. And you do get that under Democrats. That's maybe the biggest change under Trump is I remember, you know, I grew up in the Obama era and everybody was a turbo faggot. Everybody, the women were insufferable. The men were worse. You know, it was like everybody was posting rainbow flags and love is love. Remember Macklemore, same love. That shit was everywhere. And I remember if you were like basically like a basic
conservative, you were a Nazi. And now it's like everyone's watching you guys, they're watching Aiden Ross, they're watching Sneeko, they're watching people who are extremely right wing and like making jokes like you make and even serious sensible points like we all make.
And I think that that generation, they're going to grow up and they're going to make politics far more right wing. So, yeah, I think that's actually a really good reason to vote for Trump. I guess I have a much more narrow focus on politics.
this particular outfit that is going to run the admin. Because I guess I'm trying to give people a little dose of reality. They think they're electing Trump and it's going to be great. It's going to be like the 80s again. And we're going to have grunge music and beer. And okay. But actually tomorrow, gays and Jews are going to be running the Trump administration. So like, we're going to have fun tonight. It's going to be a Trump landslide. Liberals are going to cry. We're going to drink their tears. It's going to be great. But tomorrow it's like log cabin
okay, Zog, they're all running the admin, and people kind of need to know what they're in store for because politically we got to fight that. So I take your point. I totally agree with you. I just get really concerned that people are getting suckered into another more like political bullshit. But I think we're kind of on the same page. It's political versus cultural, but we're looking at it from different angles. So in your worldview,
If Kamala wins, obviously you didn't vote for Trump this election. If Kamala wins...
and everything goes to shit even worse than before, then you think a true hero could emerge in four years who's going to be worthy of your vote? Is that the game plan?
Well, that is one way of looking at it. Yeah, I think that's not the worst scenario. I think the worst case scenario is Trump wins. Vance succeeds him. Vance becomes the president. And Vance is like a Manchurian candidate, like CIA spy, neuters the right forever. That's my biggest fear. And in that sense, I think Kamala winning is like the second worst possibility. But yeah, I think it has an accelerationist effect because think about it.
is unavoidable. We lose the war with Ukraine. Four years of her being a fucktard, like being an idiot in interviews and like giggling and cackling and all that, you're going to get Hitler in 28. Like four years of Harris, eight years of Obama gave us Trump. Four years of Harris is going to give us like Franco or Mussolini or something. And like, it's going to ruin Vance. Trump will be out. People say Trump didn't go far enough. We got to go further.
I'm not an accelerationist because I don't think we should really roll the dice. If you give them power, they may never give it up again. That's why I'm not an accelerationist, but I don't think it's the worst possibility. Yeah, so that's what's interesting about the prospect of a Kamala victory is that it's going to destroy any faith left in the institutions because democracy is based on institutional faith. It's actually quite remarkable and amazing to me. I live with four or five black guys and a couple of white guys and we're racist all day long.
and and we're we make fun of the white guy because we're like i'll sue you it's a joke because like white people will argue and then they'll sue each other and they'll ask a judge black people just stab each other or shoot each other we ain't got time for that crap and and you have to believe in the courts you have to believe in the judge you have to believe in the systems and if kamala wins i think a lot of people will be red-pilled that the elections are fake and that the judicial system's a scam and that all these things that are required for democracy to function are all a scam
could bring in someone who's truly extreme,
But at the same time,
acceleration is just extremely dangerous, especially in this day and age, because I kind of feel like, and maybe I'm crazy, but...
I feel like in other days of old, when empires were falling and collapsing,
and people were hoping for the accelerationist option, it was always another human that took over.
But I think in four or five years, we might end up with some version of AI. We're going to have some QR code in our fucking foreheads, and these people are going to remain in control. And if you want your daily gruel, you're going to have to shut the fuck up.
And I kind of scared that there's enough tools now for them to implement actual control even though
everything's fallen to pieces. I guess that's what I'm most scared of from the accelerationist standpoint. So, I do understand how a Kamala victory could be a silver lining. But, I also think that if Kamala wins, I don't think you and I are going to be on the internet for much longer. And I feel like it's gonna, they're gonna do something. I mean, I don't, I don't know. I mean, maybe America's not as bad as I think it is. But, I can tell you my case over here had a whole big of American hand in it. And they wanted to get rid of me. So, I
I don't know. I think if Kamala wins, it's going to be very hard to even discuss ideas anymore. And I think that's what's going to slow us down.
Yeah, and I totally agree with that. Like I said, I'm not an accelerationist because I do think it's dangerous, but I actually fear a certain other outcome more, which is that it comes from the right. Because a lot of the things that the left would bring, like AI, like you're talking about, that is why Trump has this pro-energy policy. That's why he has a pro-legal immigrant policy.
energy and it's also dependent on cheap labor cheap high skilled programmers from India and so Trump and people like Jacob Helberg who's a Silicon Valley guy they want to supercharge AI by drilling for oil bringing in the Indians and you know they're going to control it but Sam Altman and Sequoia and all these like tech people I fear them coming from the right just as much as the left
because they're going to censor anti, you know, don't be mistaken. They would censor racism, anti-Semitism. The only thing that's different is that
With Trump, it will give it the appearance of being a rebellion. It'll give it legitimacy. It'll re-legitimize it because people say, oh, Trump got shot. How could he be controlled? Trump is on the right. He's anti-establishment. Whereas on the left, at least people could say, fuck this. We don't trust the institutions. We don't trust the media. So I just feel like people are underestimating because Teal and Vance, all those guys,
they're all into central bank digital currency. They just call it something else. They want it to be in private hands. Just like Palantir was a privatization of surveillance and other things. So you're still going to get digital ID and citizenship. It'll be coming from the private sector. It'll be coming from the CIA venture capital firms.
and it'll be re-legitimized by Trump. That's why I think Trump is actually, a certain Trump victory would be the worst case scenario. You don't think he's going to go scorched earth and get revenge on all of his enemies?
No, I think if he tried, they'll kill him.
yeah
I agree with you there. Everyone has this dream of him coming in and executive ordering Obama's arrest. It's like, bro, I don't think so. I'd love to see it. Yeah.
And what about, so what do you think happens if Kamala wins? Like what do you think is the next few months?
How do you clean it up?
Thank you.
It's going to be fucking brutal. Like if she gets in because she's energetic and young and she's a straight up leftist. So, you know, the border is going to remain open. They're going to go to war against X. They're going to go to war against Rumble. They're probably going to arrest another thousand people from the Capitol or from some other thing. And then, you know, I think they're going to escalate in Ukraine. They're testing that hypersonic nuclear missile tonight. The only benefit of Kamala winning is that she might let Netanyahu fall in Israel. And even that.
I don't know about because her admin is going to be staffed with Zionist just like Biden's was, you know, Brett McGurk is going to hang on. They're all going to hang on. So even that's overstated. And I don't want to overstate that case.
What do you think about the protests in Israel now? Because Netanyahu just fired the security minister, didn't he? What do you think about that?
Well, it's a very unstable situation. You know, the security apparatus wants to end the war because it's high casualties. They're getting fucked up by Hezbollah. They invaded a month ago. They've made no progress. They still have not been able to control the Gaza Strip. Iran is about to hit them. And so, you know, the security apparatus is saying, OK, we got to wrap this up. We got to do negotiations. Netanyahu knows the minute the war is over, he's finished.
They're protesting again. I think the government's in free fall.
But I think that if Trump wins, he's going to bail him out. And I think maybe that's why Netanyahu made the decision tonight.
It's a hedge against a Trump victory, you know, because Yov Galant is an ally of the Democrats and the Europeans, whereas, you know, Netanyahu has all his people in the Trump admin. So it's a high risk play. But I think it's going to pay off because Trump is going to get in and going to support everything that they do over there. But, you know, Harris would let him fall. I have a crazy conspiracy theory, but you are more versed than I on this particular subject. So I want you to hear me out.
Sure. Isn't Israel's
reason for existing.
because Iran is so evil. And doesn't Iran keep control over its extremely diverse population because it's the only one which is the axis of resistance against Israel? And don't you feel like these
these firefights back and forth that they always announce in advance, and there's all these fireworks, but nothing really gets blown up. Don't you feel like these two countries kind of need each other for their own political stability internally, and it's all just a big fireworks show, and they're all kind of working together in this like,
You do this, I do this, we're kinda bad guys, but we're enemies, but really it's just to keep everyone under control. Don't you think it's all... I don't know, when I saw all those missiles fly from Iran and then I couldn't find a single picture of any actual damage that mattered, I thought...
Something's weird here.
- Do you think I'm crazy?
I don't think it's crazy, but I do think they are legitimately like mortal enemies, because you could have said the same thing about the US and the Soviet Union, but they fought brutally. And, you know, when it was over, we totally tried to take all their land. And I think the same is true with Israel and Iran. Iran, you know, the Middle East, there are three real countries. You got Turkey, Egypt and Iran. Those are the only countries with huge populations, a real sense of a national identity, you know, any kind of real history.
These other countries like Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia, they're tribes of flags. That's what they say. The nationhood is sort of a recent development. And Iran has 100 million people. They're super intelligent. They have a strong sense of identity. And what Israel fears about him is that.
And they also fear that Iran has influence over all the Shiite Muslims. You know, Iran is a spiritual leader over that sect, just like the King of Saudi Arabia is for the Sunnis. And so Iran influences the Shiites in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, in Saudi's eastern province, in Yemen, in Qatar, in Bahrain. And so Iran really does challenge Israel's hegemony. And if Iran is in Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon, they can touch Israel. They can mess with Israel. They can compete for
hegemony in the Middle East. And I think that...
You look at the history of the last 60 years, Israel's just picked off
Every one of their enemies. Egypt fell first when the U.S. pacified them with peace. Then Jordan, then Iraq with the war, then Syria, then Libya. You know, the Gulf came somewhere along the way. Maybe they were always in the pocket.
just like the world island, what they call it. I think it's some serious protocols of elders
of zion stuff like they they are the center of a world system i think those are their ambitions don't they need an enemy to unify their populace like the reason north korea keeps talking about america all the time is to keep everyone under control so you need an enemy to unify behind
That's what makes it very easy to unify the populace. So what would be Israel's reason for existence if Iran disappeared and started behaving like then what happens? Then it's just another country in the Middle East that has to geopolitically trade and financially trade with all the other countries around it. And how can they expand and attack and do all this crazy shit unless they have this enemy, which is I'm not saying Hezbollah are not real resistance. I'm saying that they truly believe in what they're doing and they are sponsored by Iran. I'm saying that.
But I'm also saying that sometimes, you know, maybe perhaps it's my paranoia from growing up on the street. You see these two drug gangs that are supposed to be enemies.
But the leaders kind of meet in private, and you'd be surprised how the foot soldiers die. But among the top, there's kind of an understanding about certain things.
Well, I would say in the first place, Turkey could always fill that role. You know, Erdogan, they said, is like a new Hitler. And Turkey and Israel have been allies for a long time. But, you know, Erdogan sort of re-Islamizing it. So that could fill that role. But at the same time, I mean, I think you're just right. Like Israel will suffer.
domestically like nothing is unified Israel other than this attack on October 7th exactly the left evaporated and so that did serve Netanyahu's purpose but I think what gives way to that is you know Israel is not you know because Israel has been fighting for survival for 80 years that's a fact not even uh like a constructed political reality they were getting invaded all the time by Egypt and Syria and then they were getting hit by missiles from Iraq so they're literally at a point now where they're they're just basically safe
I think when they take Iran out,
It's like a golden age dawns and there'll be more domestic strife. But I don't think the state will come apart because of it. And they'll always fight with Muslims. Muslims will never accept them.
So they'll find new enemies. But you're right, that pressure will go away. It'll have the same effect as when the Soviet Union
you know, fell and the United States had no rival. And then we became weak. You know, that victory defeated us, so to speak. Something similar will happen there. I'm going to bring Myron on. I'm going to bring Myron Gaines on.
I'm going to bring my run on.
put it on the screen what's up guys item
What's going on? Good, good, good.
Good to see you guys, man. Have you been listening? We're talking about Trump and the culture and...
Nick knows all the politics. He knows all the names of the people. It's like, bro, I don't fucking know. He's talking about some dude. Like, I mean, I kind of know.
But really, I just want to troll the libtards, and I just want to tell girls that they're idiots and that no one listens to their votes and make fun of them for having periods.
I know that that's kind of a stupid reason to vote for somebody.
But I want to make it clear that, you know,
I'm kind of one of those globalists now. I've got that kind of money and I live in different places and...
It could all burn. I'll just go to Tokyo and buy a fucking penthouse. It doesn't matter to me so much. I just want to piss everyone off. And I think Trump will annoy him the most.
Yeah, absolutely, man. I mean, people are losing their minds because there's a high likelihood that he might win this election, you know, which obviously is great because he'll get a little bit of redemption. And I think the other important thing, too, that people need to understand that if Trump loses this election, he's going to go to jail. The judge out of New York, Merchant, has a hard on for him.
They're obviously going to try to jail him. Yeah, how is this shit allowed? Like, I'm in Romania dealing with the Romanian system, and I thought that was bad. Like, how the fuck is this even allowed? So who is this? Like, explain to all of our viewers who are not American, who is this woman? What's going on?
So long story short, the state of New York aggressively pursued Trump on a bullshit charge called falsifying business records that had to do with his real estate dealings. Right. Him basically had to do with him getting loans. They're saying that he was falsifying his records. Now, normally this is a misdemeanor charge in the state of New York. It's almost never charges a felony.
But Alvin Bragg, the attorney general for the state in New York, campaigned on going after Trump. So they were trying to look for anything to get him charged and indicted because they wanted to be the first ones to be able to indict a sitting president, which, you know, in his many different criminal cases, the state of New York was first.
So they had a hard on pursuing him for this and
It's a charge that's never charged, man. It was basically a witch hunt, and they were able to go ahead and get him indicted on this and convicted. And he went to trial, and you guys know he lost. And he's supposed to be sentenced at the end of this month.
He was supposed to be sentenced earlier on, but they ended up pushing it back. So he's been appealing it.
But there's a high likelihood that they're going to try to jail him for this and send him to Rikers Island. Do you think anything will wake up the American population? Don't you think putting him in jail would make people think, what the fuck? Or do you think people would just be like, yeah, whatever?
- Yeah, I mean, it's ridiculous, 'cause he's been indicted four different times. For those that are unaware, he got indicted twice federally, once in Florida, and then in the Southern District of Florida on a documents case, having classified documents. Another one in Washington, D.C. for the insurrection, and then also in two state charges in Georgia on a RICO under Fannie Willis, who's another fraud, and then under the state of New York with Alvin Bragg on the falsifying business document case. The Florida case pretty much got dropped.
The judge pretty much said, hey, the prosecutor that you guys brought in wasn't brought in appropriately, Jack Smith.
So that's good because I think that was the strongest charge against them actually. So that's good that they ended up dropping that one. But he still has the DC case and he still has the Georgia case and then the New York one is pretty much done and they're waiting on sentencing, but he's still going to try to appeal it. So that's kind of where we're at here. And, you know, definitely political prosecution, in my opinion.
I have a question.
Because obviously I don't know anything. I'm just, I'm one of them global elites who's dealing with his own cases. I don't fucking know shit.
Nick, Nick, we'll start with Nick. Nick.
What do you think the world will look like in 50 years?
Should I give you my prediction first or should you tell me yours first?
Why don't you go ahead first?
Should I go ahead? I think that it's I think that the Middle East is going to be the powerhouse for the next 50 or 60 years because they've got the energy.
I think that China's too alien to attract global financialized capital, but Dubai and Oman and Bahrain and these countries aren't. Saudi. I can talk from personal experience. I don't know a single rich person.
Not one.
who isn't moving money to Dubai.
Not a single person with money isn't moving money to Dubai, especially in Europe. I don't know about America, but every single millionaire all over Europe is moving money to Dubai. I bought a house in Dubai three years ago.
for $17 million and it's doubled.
doubled in three years there's no taxes there's no crime everyone's putting money there no inheritance tax no inheritance tax so there's a big brain drain and financial drain i think that the middle east is going to run things for a while because china's too alien and and foreigners don't and westerners don't want to live there and then i think china is going to take over that's what i think is going to happen i think that
the Western world is gonna, although we may vote right, we may get Trump, we may get whatever, it's gonna continue down, perhaps a slowed down path of what it's currently on.
which is faggot gay diversity bullshit.
Until it all just collapses.
And when it all collapses, the people who are in charge of the money don't really give a shit what collapses. Because there's always somewhere else to live. They just want to know what's going to happen in advance. And I feel like America is a sinking ship right now. And everyone's already raiding the cupboards on the Titanic.
The whole Western world is, especially Europe, all the people with money who I talk to already understand where it's all going to lead. And they're just trying to profit from it as opposed to stop it.
And I think in 50 years, it's going to be the Middle East.
which is primary in globally, and then China comes after.
Yeah, I think that's a good bet. I mean, you look at the investments the Gulf states are making, they're taking their enormous oil wealth and they're investing it into the green energy transition and tourism. And, you know, so they're really building a foundation for stability. The only problem with the Gulf states is they have very small populations.
with like a huge foreign workforce. And so that could create like stability challenges, especially for the rule of like, say, the House of Saud over Saudi Arabia is very tenuous. But look at you. I agree with you. But look at UAE now. It's 85 percent immigrants in Dubai, 85 percent.
But because the Emirates are treated as first-class citizens and you're always a second-class citizen, they manage to retain absolute control. Everyone fears it and it's still a very safe place and everyone knows that if you crash into their car, it was your fault no matter what.
and you're just a second-class citizen to them. So they've managed to retain control. I mean, at 85% immigration rate...
to have no crime and for them to still be in charge of everything is pretty impressive to be honest
I agree. Yeah, it's a powerful city state. But, you know, it could be a powerful city state into the future. You could see it being like a Switzerland situation or something like that. Or like Singapore. You know, Singapore is super rich, super powerful. Well, you know, in a certain respect. So I agree with that. But I think, you know, the big thing is looking at populations. And every country in the world is going to have a population drop off, taper off by the middle of the century.
headed towards the same fate. Every country other than those in Africa. Africa's having a population boom, and it'll keep going. Real niggers!
For real dude for real natural obligations
that's what they're good at they're going to have 100 kids each 6 million kids each yes I am and they're going to be everywhere if you want to look at the future look at who's having kids obviously it's going to be like World War Z when they're climbing on top of each other to breach the wall that's going to be like the western world it's going to be like Game of Thrones giant wall, Africans pouring over the top we all have to unite to prevent them from coming in or something like that
But they're going to be big.
And the economies in Asia are going to be huge, like Indonesia, India, and even a lot of these middle powers like South Africa, Ethiopia. It's going to be a multipolar world. There's going to be a lot of competition. You're right, China and America, India will be the big players. The thing is, though, AI is going to change everything. We don't even know. Like imagine predicting what the Internet's effect would be. So AI is like a fifth industrial wave, fifth generation technology.
can't imagine. But I would also say we could be facing a big energy problem. Might be significantly less electricity in 50 years because we've basically reached peak oil. Global discoveries of new oil sources are not increasing. Shale has kind of got us from 2008 to here, but it's not going to last much longer. And if we don't get like nuclear and renewables going, it's going to
drought, not enough clean water, wars over the critical minerals for the energy transition, lithium, cobalt, nickel. So it could potentially be a very ugly and dark world. And the global planners are really counting on AI to solve everything. They're encouraging depopulation because they know we don't have the resources to power the standard of living of Westerners and everybody else with the 10 billion people on the planet. So they want fewer people. It's not going
there's still gonna be scarcity. And so they're gonna rely on AI to just make everything more efficient.
And, you know, it might be enough. It might not be enough. But –
You know, it could be a very dark situation.
like talking about dark ages, like deindustrialization worldwide.
I agree with you. Especially the depopulation point. They're trying to stop everyone having kids. They hate me and Tristan. We won't stop. They fucking hate our asses.
- So my thing, man, when I voted today, like my number one thing was foreign policy. And I think this is something that a lot of Americans are very stupid about, is they don't understand that we're literally on the cusp of World War III and Israel's trying to drag us into a war.
And that has many ramifications from a domino perspective.
Iran and sorry, Israel. And I know everybody here on the panel already knows this, but Israel's been provoking a war now for several months by assassinating top members of Hamas, Hezbollah. They've been, you know, exploding pagers, killing people on foreign dignitaries in Tehran. They've been trying to incite a war here for a bit. And
The issue here is that if we get involved in this conflict,
and then we come in and we get dragged in, there's a high likelihood that Russia might also come involved to support Iran. And I don't think war is in our best interest at this point
and you know with kamala a lot of the people that are supporting her the republicans that are supporting her the same neocons that took us to war with iraq uh back in the early 2000s and i think also another thing that people need to be aware of why we shouldn't go to war is that
America doesn't have the same hegemony that we used to have before. Russia, we've sanctioned them with 15,000 plus sanctions, but their economy has gotten stronger. The ruble has gotten stronger. They're the fifth strongest economy despite the sanctions. So we don't have the same power that we think we did after World War II. We're not the same world power. And we need to kind of act in a way where these are formidable opponents and we need to respect our opponents because they're nuclear capable as well. Especially, you know, Russia has more nukes than we do.
thought we could because Putin's holding on to a bunch of gold because he saw this coming in. They started acquiring gold in 2013 and they've been just ramping it up because they kind of knew that they were going to be the subject of sanctions and they put themselves in a good place. And then on top of that, you have BRICS. They had a big summit like a week or two ago.
where they're trying to destabilize the US dollar. And unless you're paying attention to the global geopolitical spaces, a lot of Americans don't even know this stuff. They're more concerned with like,
you know, inflation and reproductive fucking rights with hoes versus what the fuck is going to go on and where we might end up with a nuclear war.
by, you know, letting Israel do whatever the fuck that they're doing, because Netanyahu is running wild now between the genocide in Gaza, him provoking war with Hezbollah, trying to do a ground assault in Lebanon, and then obviously striking Iran. So I think foreign policy is extremely important because if we don't,
take care of this, we could put ourselves in a very precarious situation. And our opponents are far more formidable than we give them credit for.
- Yeah, it's really interesting. I don't wanna be blackpilled or be a doomer in any way. That's the last thing I wanna be. But it is kind of interesting where
I listen to all these different points of view and I'm not emotional about any point of view like I don't truly give a shit I'm not emotional about it, but I I do understand what everyone's saying and it's kind of interesting that the things that other countries take as standard and acceptable and
Like,
you can't run China unless you're Chinese. In the West, we're not allowed to do it. And I'm not even gonna talk about American politics. I consider myself more English than American. I grew up in England. I left America when I was like seven. So I'm more English. But if you look at England now, there's not a single English person in charge of anything at all. And it's just like, and it's fallen into a complete dystopian shithole. And I think the statistics are quite interesting. England lost the most millionaires last year, I think, of any industrialized nation. Every single, look it up.
He's going to Dubai. Oh, they're all just going. If I have to live amongst the Arabs, let me at least avoid the crime. It was fucking leaving. And it's like they're destroying their tax base.
I'll tell you another thing that's interesting about Europe now. I don't know about America, because America still has one thing over other countries, and it's that you're allowed to be rich in America. Like, if you're rich in Romania, you're a criminal.
Even if you've never done anything wrong, you're rich, you're a criminal. That's how you're viewed. Whereas if you're rich in America, it's like, okay, he's rich. He's a fucking businessman. Who gives a shit? But I'll tell you what's happening in Europe that's really interesting that no one's talking about now in the political spaces. But you can do a bit of research and you'll be amazed. If you have any money...
At all. In any bank. You're getting hit with fucking charges. They are after you for money. If you have a bank in Poland, Polish prosecutors. You have a bank in Romania, Germany, anywhere. You're getting hit with all these charges and investigations. I don't know how bankrupt these people are. But if you have any kind of bank balance, you're getting hit by tax authorities and left, right. And it's not just me. I'm talking about everyone I know with money. And that's why they're all taking their money out. They're destroying their tax base. I mean, look at Germany. VW is closing down for fuck's sake.
It's like the last factory in Europe we're about to lose. So I don't know. I think Europe's going to burn first, and Americans can enjoy watching Europe and see the future of America. I think the world is cyclical. You're not going to be able to keep it afloat forever.
But I think Europe's about 30, 40 years ahead of the decline. But I really believe places like England, especially London, et cetera, they've got 20 years left before they're literally unlivable.
People forget that England used to be the world's superpower and they were the reserve currency.
You know what I mean? It was the greatest superpower the world has ever seen.
- Absolutely, and we have that title now, but we can lose it by making bad foreign policy decisions. And I think Israel, which a lot of people don't talk about, and a lot of these political commentators are too scared to talk about Israel. This is why I love Nick so much, because
And you guys, 'cause we're some of the few guys that are willing to go ahead and talk about this bullshit. If you go look at any big political commentator right now in the right wing, all of them show for Israel. All of them do. And they don't identify the problem that we have a foreign nation that occupies our government, the British government, etc. Because they have a APAC equivalent over there in England. They have an APAC equivalent in Australia. They just barred Candace Owens from entering Australia.
And they're less than 1% of the population in Australia. So there's a fucking problem here that no one wants to talk about. And it's the occupation of our governments by a foreign entity that is headquartered out of Tel Aviv.
That's the fucking reality that no one wants to say, because they drive a lot of our foreign policy, especially in the Middle East. And, you know, there's this whole concept of...
the Arab world hates Americans or whatever, or, you know,
they hate us 'cause of our freedom, et cetera. No, they hate us because of our support of Israel. That's why they really hate us. That we never had issues with the Middle East after World War II until we really started to support Israel because they look at it like, hey,
Israel wouldn't be able to be in this position where they're bombing and killing innocent people if it weren't for U.S. support from a financial and from a military perspective. So Israel caused a lot of the fucking problems that we have from a foreign perspective.
And no one wants to call it out on the right. Do you think that European countries would be successful if they operate with a system like the UAE in regards to you're allowed to come, you're allowed to be a migrant, you're allowed to come for money, but you're always going to be a second class citizen to the natives? Or do you think the countries are too big? Because it's easy with a city state. It's harder with 400 million people.
That's a good question, man. Because I did go to the UAE a few times, and I really did like how clean it was, how safe it was. Like you said, there's a lot of British money over there.
No taxes.
I don't know, I think we're too far gone where we would, 'cause that's the thing, they keep crime down by having that two-tier justice system you just mentioned. If you're an Emirati,
and you get caught with drugs, they'll put you in rehab. But if you're a foreigner, you're gonna go to jail. - For a long time.
for a long ass time, right? It incentivizes foreigners from committing crimes, which is one way to kind of deal with it. But I think in the West,
since we've kind of
propped ourselves up as like a nation of immigrants in a melting pot, as they like to say, it might be a little too far gone for us to try to institute the system where, hey, if you foreigners come in, we're going to institute heavy penalties against you from a legal perspective if you commit crimes here. Well, it is certainly too far gone in Europe. It's certainly too far gone in Europe. And I get in trouble for saying this. I've recently said that
Community Notes...
did a gotcha moment on me. I said, well, why is the leader of the conservative party now a Nigerian woman, an Indian man, now it's a Nigerian woman? And community notes got me, she was born in Wimbledon, she's English. I'm like...
Look, I understand that she's English. Community notes, this isn't the gotcha moment that you think it is, community notes. When I say a Nigerian person, what I mean is her parents are from Nigeria. I have a child.
who is born of an English mother here in Romania. That child is not Romanian.
Romanians don't think it's Romanian. And if the child had been born one hour drive south, would my child then be Bulgarian?
No, the child is English because I'm English and his mother is English. So when I said Nigerian women shouldn't be leader of political parties in the United Kingdom, everyone lost their shit and started correcting me about how English she was. And my simple standpoint was like, no, in World War I, her ancestors were not fighting for England in World War I. In Horatio Nelson's fleet in the 1800s, her ancestors weren't aboard those ships.
on literally to their kids and to their families. That's why they did it. That's why they fought the French and the Spanish and Nigerians. I don't think should be the leaders of England. I have an interesting question for you both because, you know, I talk so much shit. I like to listen sometimes.
Do you think a country can even be based on freedom?
Can you even unify a country behind that? And when I ask that question, the reason I'm asking is because if you look at other nations, right, you have Islam that unifies Saudi Arabia, for example. You have the Russian flag and the struggles of old that unify Russia. Communism that unifies North Korea and China. Yeah, but no, it's only America primarily. The Europe tried to come along and tries to hold on to the coattails that has this idea.
of
freedom is the unifying factor. But of course, that's always going to be a lie because if there's endless freedom, you have chaos. I mean, freedom's Somalia. So you can't have freedom because you have a government and you have laws. And in fact, you have more laws than any other country on earth. Yeah, Somalia is more free than America. So how do you even unify a country with the idea of freedom? Because there's so many things you're not allowed to do.
Which is why they promote the degeneracy, by the way, in case anyone's concerned. The reason they push all this dumb shit to the front all the time is not only to destroy society, but it's also to say, look, we're free because you can't be a tranny over there.
But in reality, you can't do anything important in America that you're not allowed to do in other places. You don't really have much freedom for anything.
than you do have in Saudi or Russia or anywhere else. You're just allowed to do the fucking degenerate dumb shit that no one wants to do anyway. So how do you even unify a country behind the idea of freedom without chaos? How do you unify a country behind the idea of freedom without multi-ethnicity, without open border, without fucking gay bullshit? Like, how do you even have a country unified behind freedom? Because if you unify it behind...
certain ideals and fuck the freedom off like russia then you can say of course you can't come here you're not russian fuck you no faggots but america can't do that so how does it work
Well, it's kind of tough because, you know, freedom has also gone hand in hand with globalization. You know, you could have a country that has liberty.
But the problem is,
These developments in modernity over the past few hundred years, which is people kind of becoming self-conscious of themselves. It's individualism. It's the fact that these nations are smashing into each other. Because this is really a novel development. These massive migrations of people from the south to the north by planes and buses and everything seeking economic opportunity. This demographic transition is somewhat novel.
the very nature of it.
so it's really sort of unique to our time and i guess it's a question if the whole world is going to survive
liberalism, will any nations survive liberalism? When people sort of become self-conscious of ideas and themselves, because that's, Europe is really just the place where it happened first. Maybe it's the only place where it can happen. But Europeans became aware of these things like philosophy and like the mind and consciousness and all that.
And then they decided to create these places like in France and the United States in particular, where they said, we're going to base the nation on a concept. You know, we're going to have a propositional nation. It's going to be a country that we design. Whereas every other country says, well, it's the immortal, you know, eternal principle of the English or the Russians or the Hungarians or the Romans or whatever.
And it's, you know, America and France were the blueprint. Then all of Europe became Republican or Democratic. All of Europe became individualist and liberal and has elections. Now, every country has elections. Every, you know, Iran has elections. Russia has elections. They have elections in Africa. And so, you know, it's really like
European civilization, which is not going to survive, we're going to be supplanted by people that don't really understand those things, are taking advantage of those things, and then will reassert the ancient things, which is...
tribe, nation, ancient tradition, superstition, things like that. That's why it's so dark and scary. So no, I don't think you can. You sort of have to be collectivist. You have to be racialist. You have to be a traditionalist. If you're not those things, you don't survive. But I guess this is sort of the ultimate test. But I got to run. There's some big developments in the election
And there's going to be another big polls closing in 15 minutes. So I'm going to jump out of here. All right, bro. Thank you. If anything great, if anything big happens, let us know.
Yes, he won North Carolina. That's the big division. So Trump is on his way. I think this is his to lose. I think it's over.
Yeah. But, uh, but thanks for having me on the panel, Myron, Andrew, Tristan, good talking to you guys. Let's, let's, let's think for, uh, for one more show coming up in the next couple of weeks. Let's think how you would unify. Let's put together a blueprint, how you could unify a country behind the guise of freedom without all of these horrible words that were called. And let's see if it's even possible or if this is one big psyop, because I think that'd be a very interesting episode.
Totally. Post-election recap. Let's do it. Let's do it. Beautiful.
All right. See you guys. I'll hit you back by the way, too.
Okay, yeah, I'll talk to you soon, Myron. All right, man.