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*BANG*
Thank you.
Undertake.
You've agreed to do an interview
with the BBC.
The material's gonna be published on television, on radio,
Online.
We...
on doing an interview
because
your faces
some very serious
allegations.
Correct?
Rape.
human trafficking.
and also because there's a great deal of
concerned about
things.
and the impact.
that they have.
and young people
I don't think...
the concerns about the things I say.
for the level of influence I have and the reach I have.
I would argue.
that a lot of the things that are already out there
side of the legacy.
media and the matrix as a whole are far more damaging than the things I say.
concern about the influence
have been a harmful
but let's start with the allegations. Not necessarily a harmful influence. The fact that I am massively influential over
the youth
And I understand that.
but it's my influence as a whole which people are afraid of,
Let's start with the allegations.
Have you raped anybody? Absolutely not.
Have you trafficked anybody? Absolutely not.
exploited any women for money? Absolutely not.
But you have admitted
using emotional manipulation to get women
to work in the web calendar.
Firstly,
Let's begin.
Let's start at the beginning.
I'm facing charges.
The first one you mentioned, the right one, is already thrown out by a judge.
Secondly, it's very difficult for me to sit here and have a very frank and honest conversation with you while we're in the territory of Romania about illegal cases.
going on with
I have to protect myself. I've agreed to do an interview with you. I don't want to be as honest with you
Possible.
But I can't incriminate myself in any way. I have to be very careful with what I talk about.
There are no charges yet.
Correct. There are no charges. There are no charges. And I've agreed to speak to you.
but I have to be as honest and frank as I can while also protecting myself.
And
following my legal counsel.
So let's talk about what you've said yourself then.
You have said
on the website, your original website for the Hustlers University
that you emotionally manipulated women
to fall in love with you
so that you could get them working in the sex industry for your financial gain.
As I said.
I have to be very careful with what I say, but let's put it
No women are coming out against me.
and accusing me of doing
Yes, they are. No, they're not.
Yes they are. Well they're not.
Who?
There's testimony from the current investigation.
The current investigation, which I cannot discuss, which I know intimately and you don't, I can tell you right now.
that the women who are
in this case file.
There are two American women who have been caught already admitting their lying.
And then nobody else is accusing me of anything.
To begin with, it's very common in cases like this that the alleged victims
do not always see themselves as victim
That's very interesting.
It's actually extremely interesting.
'Cause if I was
a matrix controlled
organization. My goal was to slander somebody and try and destroy their name.
You're telling me that they've chosen a crime which one is heinous,
of course, because it damages
And two, you're saying that even if everyone else involved
If you have five people and everyone's sitting there saying, no, nobody's hurt anybody.
we like Andrew, we've all worked together, we're friends, etc. That's not what everybody's saying. Let me read you some of the testimony from the current investigation. Can I finish this? One of the witnesses said, you're not answering the question I've asked you.
You're not answering the question I asked. - I am answering the question. You're saying-- - Let me read you the testimony of one of the witnesses. - You're saying the people who are involved in this
even if they say they're not victims, that they're still going to try and attack me, pretend they're victims. They're treated as victims by...
the case.
ongoing.
And not all of them are saying that. One of the witnesses says,
- Do you think we cannot discuss that? - We can't go into the case. The case is open and active.
Well, let's just
be clear that not all of the witnesses in the case are behaving in the way you describe, and even those that are,
it doesn't bar them from being treated
as victims by the prosecution by the case.
We have an open criminal investigation,
I am absolutely not really sure I'll be found innocent.
I know the case better than you.
I know it intimately and you don't.
I have seen all the criminal files and the evidence against me and you haven't.
I know the truth of what happens and you don't.
And I'm telling you, absolutely not really. I've never hurt anybody.
that.
The case that's been put against me is completely unrefabricated.
and I'm never gonna be found guilty of anything.
And it's very difficult for me to answer your in-depth questions, because we're sitting here inside of the territory of Romania. I am beholden to the Romanian legal system.
And I'm not going to incriminate myself because you're trying to prod me.
You are wrong. And we're gonna have to accept that for now and talk about something
Let me read you then what you have said.
about what you have done.
You have said,
My job was to meet a girl, go on a few dates,
sleep with her, get her to fall in love with me to the point where she'd do anything I say, and then get her on a webcam so we
we could become rich together.
I don't think that's what I personally said. I think that's exactly what you said. No, I've never said that.
So that's something that you found on the internet.
doesn't mean I've said it, and again,
Once again,
If any female on the planet has a problem with me,
I strongly recommend her to go to the police and try and pursue me.
for criminal charges. It's actually very interesting.
that me, one of the most famous people in the world, who's been vilified by the legacy media and places all over the internet,
while everyone has attacked me from every single angle,
While federal agencies from multiple countries have called over 2,000 women who know me
We stand here with zero new accusations since my arrest. Zero.
If you took any famous person, any man of substantial wealth,
and you called 2,000 women who knew him,
He'd find an ex-girlfriend is upset, somebody who wants money is upset. They called 2,000 people who knew me and could not find a single woman to make a new complaint. The only complaints they have against me
are the initial complaints
which we can prove are lies.
And...
That's where it stands. So I'm not going to sit here and allow you to pretend that I'm some kind of evil predator. When actually, I'd argue the fact that people who have been investigated to the level I've been investigated to,
You're taking the average man on the street.
and investigate his entire life for 14 months, call everyone who's ever known him,
and vilify him in the media, and encourage people to come forward for money, and to try to contact every ex-girlfriend he's ever had. You think he would come forward and accuse those people
of rape and accuse those people of-- I think that you would have a lot more-- I think you would have a lot more flack than I've got. I'm actually such a nice person that I've never had anyone come out. The BBC has spoken to somebody
sits your arrest, who says,
exactly those things, that with you it's all manipulation, there's an ulterior... Is this Sophie? Is this Sophie?
Oh, Sophie, the fake name, no face.
I was so impressed by wanting to please him and wanting him to be happy.
that I was just kind of, yeah, okay, do whatever you want. - And what has she accused me of a crime, this imaginary Sophie?
She's making the point that there is-- Has she accused me of a crime? --emotional or psychological manipulation. I've asked you a question, and I've allowed you into my house. I'm asking you a question. Correct, but you're not the boss here, because I've allowed you into my house. I'm asking you the questions. Correctly, and I'm telling you. You get to decide the answers. No. We're equal here.
I've allowed you into my house. You don't come here with a position of authority.
I'm doing you the favor as legacy media giving you relevance by speaking to you.
And I'm telling you now, this Sophie, which the BBC has invented, which she's no face of, nobody knows who she is. The BBC did not invent her? Of course not. And she, because you never invent anything.
and she has not filed criminal charges against me.
What are we talking about here?
What is she saying? She's talking about emotional manipulation against the sex industry for your financial gain. Absolute garbage. She has not filed criminal, this person.
if they exist.
has not filed criminal charges against me,
I welcome anybody who believes I've harmed them, male or female, any point in the past, to file committed charges against me. I will fight them. I know who I am. I know what I've done. And I know the truth. And I know that I'll be found innocent of this.
attack. The reason I'm being attacked is because of my massive influence, not because I've ever hurt anybody.
And for you to sit here and say that everybody around you is saying you're innocent,
But that doesn't matter because the state will say they're victims and they're just going to
grab everybody you know and call everybody victims, even if they say they're not, and try and put you in jail, you are describing a matrix attack. You're not describing human trafficking.
I'm describing women who are going to court.
to accuse
rape with human trafficking. We will see what women go to court in this trial.
We'll see which women go for it. Can we finish, please?
We'll see which one we go to.
I'm describing
women who are going to court
to accuse you of rape and human trafficking. -Sophie doesn't go to court. -Sophie doesn't exist. -And I'm describing women who have spoken to the BBC at length. -Sophie doesn't exist. -And other media.
about what they say is emotional manipulation and coercion, and I'm quoting back to you your own words,
where you describe coercion and initial manipulation. They're words you found on the internet.
and Sophie doesn't exist. So let's move on to the next subject.
Let's move on to the next subject.
No, I think I'll stick on this one for a
So there's other places in that same website where you say, you get girls to fall in love with you, and they do it because they love you, because they want to do what you say.
convincing women
to
take part in some kind of business arrangement doesn't work long term because they're emotional.
one and the other.
That's coercion, that's emotional manipulation, that's abuse. What you've found
are clips from the internet.
Some text from the internet.
and you're gonna sit here and tell me
that's the reason I should be putting together. Your website, your words. It's not my website.
Yes it is. No salt.
Check my website.
Next.
It's the website you've taken down and I wonder why those comments have been taken down. No website's been taken down. My website's the same, it's been the same for a very long time. The comments on this website
on the original website have been taken down and I wonder why. You are accusing me
I'm guessing.
What you're trying to say is you're accusing me and you're trying to say that I'm guilty of the things I'm accused of and I'm emotionally manipulating.
I'm saying that you have said
you emotionally manipulated
here for your own financial gain? No, absolutely not. And I'm asking you about that? Absolutely not is the answer.
I look forward to the end of this trial. I look forward to clearing my name.
I look forward to the BBC and the legacy media having to say not guilty and having to tell the truth.
As I've said before,
The only other person who's been found despite absolute rigorous
destructive levels
of investigation
and
prodding into my life is this imaginary Sophie by the BBC who doesn't exist
And if you were to find any single other man on Earth,
and try and analyze his life forensically to the level they've done mine,
you would find genuine damage to people. I don't hurt people.
It's not just-- - Thousands of women have come out of my defense.
thousands of women have come out in my defense, and you've not mentioned that.
Thousands of women come out of my defense.
Because...
The problem is when women accuse you of serious crimes.
- Okay, but let's agree that thousands of women-- - It's not the problem that some people
say you haven't done it. It's a problem that some people say you have. Thousands of women come out in my defense and as we stand right now we have open criminal investigations.
The people who were involved in the criminal investigation are saying that we're not victims of anything.
Andrew's fine, he's never hurt us.
You're saying, "No, I have the opposite to that. I have the counter to that. I have someone called Sophie with no face, a fake name, who we've invented, and she's not accusing you of anything criminal." So I don't see the whole point you're trying to make here. You say you manipulate women. They say you manipulate women. Why wouldn't people...
think you do.
I'm not here. Do you think I'm manipulating you?
I'm asking you about the testimony you've
given on your website and the testimony
You've printed something off.
that you found on Reddit.
And you're going to sit here and say that that makes me a bad person. I'm saying that you should know better as a journalist.
and do some proper journalism.
Let's investigate the fact that thousands-- I think you should answer my questions. I am.
I already have and we should move on. She's just trying to start an argument.
only about the criminal allegations.
It's a much bigger issue.
You've got children's organisations in the UK, you've got rape organisations in the UK,
you've got the police
naming you by name.
as someone who has a harmful influence
on children and on women
in the UK and elsewhere because of the things you say, because of the way you present
gender relations, the way you say men should treat women.
That's very upsetting. And the reason that's very upsetting is because I know that's not true.
I'm genuinely a good person.
I believe my impact on the world is positive.
In fact, if you were to read the comment section of nearly any video I post, especially by the legacy media, 95% of the population agree.
Most people know that things I say are pulsating.
Legacy Media as a whole has lost all its credibility in the last three to
Nobody believes.
And it's a shame
It's a massive shame the BBC come here and try and push and purport this idea that I'm a dangerous person. I'm anti-drug, so I've never pushed it.
drugs or any, I'm anti-drugs, I'm anti-violence. The UK is facing a knife crime epidemic and they're going to sit here and say that I'm the most dangerous man in the UK. You have said you're the most dangerous man in the world.
I've said I'm the most dangerous man in the world.
You've also said that a woman's intimate parts belong to her male partner.
I'm glad you find that funny. I find it funny that you're sitting here saying that I said I'm the most dangerous man in the world and you believe that's
When did I say that?
I'm asking if you believe it. No. You said you said you said you're the most dangerous man in the world. Is that some kind of proof that I'm dangerous? Am I Dr. Evil now?
I'm telling you that it's very upsetting.
that you're going to sit here and that certain organizations in the world are going to try and pretend that I'm the biggest force of evil on earth, when I'm genuinely a force for good. I'm telling you what you have said. I'm genuinely a force for good. Not what I've said. And the reason they're doing this is because of the massive influence I have over the youth,
and they don't like that, I'm telling the youth,
to think outside of the matrix and ignore things like the BBC, which come here with loaded questions and false narratives and try and paint innocent people as
Guilty. You said women's intimate parts belong to their male parts. I said that if a woman marries a man,
She takes his last name and traditionally the man gives her away.
I've been pushing traditional
religious beliefs because I'm a religious man.
and traditional beliefs in regards to marriage, which everybody accepted 10 to 15 years ago. So why are you saying that? That's not a crazy conspiracy theory.
If you're going to sit here and say that me believing a woman should take a man's last name in marriage makes me the most dangerous man in the world,
then you're just going to lose even more credibility than the BBC has already lost in the last four to five years.
If that's your point, if that's your narrative you want to push, good luck. I would also say that men should be able to sleep with a lot of women outside marriage. That doesn't sound very religious or very conservative. That's not what I said they should be able to. I said a lot of high-value men, a lot of rich men do it. And then we discussed at length on podcasts why rich men do it. And we also discussed why women decide to be unfaithful.
It's not a gendered argument. We discuss unfaithfulness as a whole. What are the reasons and motivations for men and what are the reasons and motivations for women? Because you have no time to actually watch my content at length.
and understand what I'm saying, you just come here with a small snippet which has been provided to you on a piece of paper. - Saying three times doesn't make it true. - No, completely. You don't have a clue what I say or what I talk about. You never watch my content. - You say. - You have small pieces of paper
Small clips on a piece of paper, and you're trying to pretend I've said evil things.
And then you're going to say I'm the most dangerous man in the world, which is truly
Not me.
Okay.
Do you believe in the most dangerous man in the world, Lucy? I'm not answering your questions.
Well, then we need to change the dynamic of this interview.
Because, and I'll make this clear,
I allowed you into my home. I'm doing you a favor, giving you the first interview I'm giving to the public.
You don't come here with a position of authority.
I don't respect the BBA.
- You see? - I don't know you.
You do not come here with a position of authority over me.
We are equals. We are people. We're citizens.
of the world and we sit here as equals and I see you as my equal and if you ask me questions I can ask you questions back.
For you to come here and sit down and pretend you're the Gestapo, and that you don't have to answer my questions, is disingenuous because I don't owe you anything.
and you answer them however you want. But I don't know. This is a conversation.
and I don't owe you any degree of authority over me.
So let's make that clear. And that doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman or from the BBC or the CNN. I'm here to answer your questions and be honest with you and do you a favor, and I'm doing you a favor.
But you've come here with loaded questions. You're trying to paint a narrative of me which is negative.
I'm asking you about things you've said that people are concerned about. And that's fine, but you're not going to sit here and say you don't answer my questions because you're not above me.
is also not supposed to be a
degrees.
Absolutely. Well, it would help if you answered
question I've answered every question so far let me ask you the question
Sure.
You have said that a woman's intimate parts belong to her male partner and if she goes on OnlyFans he is in
title.
of her income.
You.
are extremely-- it's actually very--
confusing to me why you're going to sit here
take long format podcasts I've done, which are three or four hours long,
in
Context where I sat with OnlyFans girls, 10 or 15 OnlyFans girls,
where we've been joking back and forth
Ignore every comment and satirical comment and sarcastic comment that the females have
and then come along and say, "You said this, and you're the most evil man in the world."
I don't know if you understand what sarcasm is. Did you say it? I don't know if you understand what sarcasm is. I don't know if you understand what context is. I don't know if you understand what
- So you're saying it was sarcastic? - I'm saying it was a very interesting talk show.
And for you to sit here and say that that is my true core beliefs and that makes me a bad person is disingenuous. Is it? Of course not.
Was it sarcasm? Absolutely.
You should watch the show. You were being sarcastic when you said, let me just clarify. You should watch the show. Let me clarify for the audience.
You were being sarcastic.
when you said a woman's intimate parts belong to her male partner.
- No. - You didn't believe that? - No, it's not that. It's that you haven't watched the show at length
And you should have because the woman was saying, my man's car belongs to me because he's my man.
and she was on OnlyFans.
And then 20 minutes later when she said she was on OnlyFans, I said, "Ah, well, you're selling your body. That belongs to him because he's your man." And she laughed. She laughed. She laughed and she said, "Ha ha ha. Yeah, that's probably true." If you watch the show, if you watch the show, it will make sense.
For you to come here with doing no research at all,
and then say, "I don't understand what I'm talking about, but I've got this piece of paper with a few things printed off."
That's why you're saying the silly things you're saying.
You should watch the show. Do some research. Do you believe it?
I've already answered the question. Not really. Of course I have. I've answered the question.
Do you believe that a woman's intimate parts belong to her male parts? Of course not. I've just answered the question.
We've done that three times. And does this woman believe that her man's car belongs to her?
It's not a gendered argument. I really think that
It's genuinely sad.
that when the BBC has a chance to finally interview me at the end of all this matrix
that they don't come here with any kind of genuine openness to try and understand my influence of the world or the things I push,
or what I'm trying to teach the world, or why I'm a good influence on the world because I am an absolutely good influence.
Instead they come here with pieces of paper
with printed out excerpts from five-year-old podcasts, take it out of context.
to attempt the same Matrix attack on me which has been attempted
endlessly
Every single person in Legacy Media has already tried this and it doesn't work. I really encourage you to read the comment section on YouTube and you will see that nobody believes a word you're saying.
Mrs. Goddard?
about these comments.
is because we've got the
Chief Executive of Rape Crisis, naming you individually.
as spreading a dangerous ideology of misogynistic rape culture. Absolutely. It's the comments you make
that are leading people
say things like this. Absolute garbage. National organizations who are
saying that are blaming you for increasing levels of misogyny.
schools that are saying they are having
increased incidence of girls being attacked
female teachers being harassed.
If that was true... By pupils. If that was of you and your teaching and your influence. That's absolute garbage. I have never...
ever encourage a student to attack a teacher male or female ever. I preach hard work discipline. I'm an athlete.
I preach anti-drug, I preach religion, I preach no alcohol, I preach no knife crime. Every single problem with modern society I'm against. I'm teaching young men to be disciplined, to be diligent, to listen, to train, to work hard, to be exactly like me, with no criminal record, never even yet charged in this 14 month matrix investigation.
And I'm saying that if men grew up like me, which are hardworking and diligent, and it's emotional control and stoic, we're going to have a better society, not a worse society. To sit here and say that schools in England,
England, which is a failing nation, which has knife crime going through the roof, violence going through the roof, men's mental health going through the roof, and they're going to all blame me because I appeared on the internet one year ago, is disingenuous. Use that image for financial success with a Bugatti and a cigar, but it comes with a side order of misogyny.
How does having a Bugatti and a cigar come with misogyny?
Because it's all mixed together in what you teach. You teach that a woman, if a woman comes home and accuses you of cheating,
you should hit her with a machete
Is that what I teach?
That's what you say. No, if you actually watch the clip, it will be about the woman attacking me with a machete. As usual, you've not watched the video, taken out of context, flipped it, and attempted it to attack me with a small excerpt. Let me tell you something, Lucy. I'm sure you're a very nice person.
I'm sure you're a fantastic person.
But if I were to take everything you've ever said online and just take small excerpts out of context, I could make you look like a misogynist.
I guarantee it. In fact, I might actually do that. And then you're going to sit here and say, "Oh shit, I'm a misogynist because my clips have been taken out of context."
If you refuse to watch anything at length and understand it, then that's what's going to happen. The National Police Chief's lead for violence against women, the NSPCC, rape crisis, safer schools, they are all naming you.
as being behind an epidemic of misogyny, even amongst primary schools.
The idea that I made primary school children misogynistic because I own a nice car.
Is that your argument? It's the misogyny that comes along with it. Oh, owning a nice car is misogyny.
No, it's the misogyny that comes along with it. How does misogyny come along with owning a nice car?
Because you have an image of financials up there. I'm glad you're answering my questions now. We finally got the dynamic right. You have an image of financials up there.
Excuse me.
You have an image of financial success, but it comes along with attitudes towards women that are really problematic. My attitude towards women is that women should be protected and provided for, and I've said that at length. In fact, I've said that over 50 times online. You never mention it. I say that my girlfriend doesn't have to work unless she wants to. I take care of her. I die to protect a woman. I've talked about how I've stood up and faced a knife to protect a woman. And in return, you want authority over her in the way you have over a child or a dog. Absolutely not. I've said that women should be protected and provided for.
And in return you want authority over her because if you have responsibility for someone like a child or a dog you say,
you have authority over them.
If you want to go down this argument, we'll go down this nuanced argument. I said that if I have responsibility for her safety,
I should have a degree of authority over her safety. Meaning, meaning, and let me explain my point, if I'm the one who has to fight and die to protect her, I'm the one who decides how we walk home. I'm the one who decides the route we take.
Because it's unfair for her to say, I want to walk through the most dangerous neighborhood in the world, but you have to face the knives. That's what I've said. And now you're going to sit here and pretend I'm trying to treat women like dogs, which is garbage.
Every single man in the world who loves this woman understands that he has to protect her. And every single woman in the world likes the idea of a woman, of a man who would protect her. If you were to say to most women right now, do you want your husband to protect you in a violent attack? They'd say, yeah, of course. Nothing I've said is misogynistic. If you said to most women, would you want to lose authority in the relationship, to not be treated as a free and legal equal?
- Do you? - I didn't say that. I said, I need to have authority over the loop. We walk home. - When you compare women and the authority over women that you believe you should have,
to having authority over
child or a dog.
It's not the same because a woman is a free, legal adult. Correct. You're equal. Free, legal adult, my equal. But if I had a girlfriend and we were walking home late at night,
And I said, let's not walk down that area. It's a bad area. I have to protect you if anything happens. I want to take the long way. And she said, no, I will. I have to walk this way. Even though it's the most dangerous room, I must. Then I would say, you're welcome to. You could do it. You're a free and legal legal. But I'm not going to walk with you and protect you. I think that I should be able to decide the route.
Because I have an obligation.
And my obligation as a man is to protect and provide for females. Everything I'm talking about is traditional gender roles, which 10 years ago,
less than 10 years ago, would not be considered outlandish, would not be considered crazy, would not be considered dangerous or misogynistic.
The world has changed. And a lot of people haven't changed with the world. Please understand there's a lot of women at home watching this right now who like the idea of their man sticking up for them.
protecting them and providing for them. And just because the world has gone crazy, and the legacy media has gone crazy, most people at home are still relatively sane. And these are the people who are going to write in the comments that Andrew is saying anything that's out there.
Sorry, .
The whole world believes these things.
I don't know why. I told you you can't. Same as five.
They cut things, they smile, they shake their hands, and then they reach one clunky line
- Five more.
Thank you.
- Thanks, guys.
It goes
like that.
I'm having a nice conversation with you. I'm enjoying it.
So it's no problem.
It's been fun so far.
The Press: People are on social media.
Thank you.
We good?
Yes.
Tell me when. Do you want to clap again? Yes, I will. No, no, no. We didn't stop, no? I can do the clap. Are we good? No, no, no. Thank you. Thanks.
If a man broke into your house, wouldn't you want your husband to protect you?
There's a difference between conservative values.
and emotional control
coercive control.
We're talking about protections now, and I'm saying if someone broke into your house, would
it's not about conservative values or protection, it's what
you're demanding in return.
Well I'll give you this. I don't know who your husband is, I don't know if you would
I'll give you
If someone broke into this house right now and was a homicidal maniac,
I would expect me and the other men in this room to stand up and face them while you and the other women in this room could protect yourselves. I would actually believe the men should go and engage the attacker. I believe that.
And even though I don't know you, and you've come into my house with a hostile agenda, and you've come here to try and make me look bad, I would still stand up to protect you. I would still stand up to protect you because I believe that's my role as a man.
I am asking you about things that you have said
that have caused major national organisations, including the police,
to worry about you by name.
That's what I'm asking you about. It's not what I say. It's not about whether you protect your partner or not. It's about what you have said that has
such concern in the UK and I want to put it to you that
You don't really care about the harm it caused. That's not true.
because making controversial statements like this online has made you a lot of money.
Okay, so first thing,
I genuinely am a force for good in the world.
You may not understand that yet, but you will eventually.
And I genuinely believe I'm acting under the
instruction of God to do good things.
and I want to make the world a better place.
I genuinely believe my legacy is a good legacy.
And I believe that eventually when the legacy media catches up, they're going to understand I'm a good positive influence.
I'm not interested in damaging the world for money.
Because if I was interested in damaging the world for money, I could have sold drugs. Or I could make rap music and encourage everyone to stab each other like all the drill artists do. Or you could make controversial statements online that attract a lot of followers who you then direct to your website. I could make... where they pay... I could make jokes... sure. I mean, I could make jokes online. Who doesn't?
I mean, I could make a joke on mine. Are you saying that all the controversial things you've said are jokes? No, I'm saying that these organizations and the BBC who are going to sit here and pretend that I am the face damaging the youth
is absolutely garbage. It's completely disingenuous. And the reason... I'm sorry, we have agreed
and into
Maybe you were going to ask questions that way to give us
verify something
These are very loaded questions. And so far, I'm sorry, I have rage in
I'm talking right now
So, these are very loaded questions.
And this is not what we deserve.
and this is not a conversation that we-- - We were very clear that the questions are-- - You're sitting there, you're sitting there, you're sitting there and just accusing, we're not here to face new allegations,
all been discussed, answers have been provided so if
please move on from this side of the industry.
I would have been
I would like to hear what Andrew's got
to say about the fact that when you make controversial statements
It attracts people
follow you.
and then you direct them to your website where they pay you a monthly fee to learn how to be like you.
And so the more controversial statements you make,
the more money you get.
The fact that that's the path you've outlined
So one, my online university.
to my
presence on the internet. The fact that you believe that's the path.
just shows we've done absolutely
Genuinely zero research. Okay, so how many of the people who sign up for Hustlers University come to you through your social media?
Genuinely zero research. How many of the people who sign up for Hustlers University come to you
through your social media where you direct them to the website. And Lucy, I encourage you to go out there, do some genuine research, watch my videos. Did you answer my question? Of course, watch my videos at length.
and truly understand what I'm doing.
How many of the people?
who sign up for Hustlers University at $49.99 a month
come to you
because they see your social media
There's an online school.
- I have. - Cold Hostage University.
which I don't own.
I influenced Thor along with many other influences.
and they sign up for your website, which I don't own.
And once again, that's nothing to do with me. And you're gonna sit here and say, "I made a joke." - You and the figure. - "I made a joke online."
four years ago.
because a woman said that she owned her man's car, and you made a joke, and that means that you, because you have a Bugatti, are the most misogynistic, dangerous man in the world.
This is going down a path of absolute insanity.
It's not true.
None of this is true.
I don't hurt people. I don't harm people. I'm genuinely a positive influence. You are renowned. I'm renowned. For offensive and controversial violence. That's not why I'm renowned. I'm actually renowned. I'm actually renowned for helping young men. Because we talk about there's a men's mental health crisis.
and we talk about we pretend to care that men are upset, but as soon as I discuss men's
it's misogynistic.
It doesn't have to be gender. Just because I believe men have a point of view and men have rights and men are allowed to think and believe and act a certain way that helps them internally, that doesn't mean it's anti-female. In fact, I believe it's actually pro-female. I think when a man is true to his influence and true to his S's,
and he's good within himself, he's a positive influence on the world, and he's positive for the women around him. Just because I discuss men's issues, people say, "Oh, you're anti-woman." I'm not anti-woman, I love women. Why are so many women saying that when their boyfriends start following you,
They're not. They experience more control. So many. They experience more abuse. How many?
Enough.
enough enough well it's the first time i've heard of it so in fact one is too many oh of course yeah
So, in fact, I've seen thousands and thousands of comments and have endless emails.
from women,
Praising the fact that their sons are listening to me. Praising the fact that the husband... The things I'm saying does not worry you. It would worry... You're not concerned about it. It would worry me if I was genuinely damaging the world. But for you to sit here and say, "Andrew, you've become the most googled man in the world, you have billions of views and one woman, one, is now saying that her husband is not the same man she wants him to be." When thousands and thousands of people are saying the opposite, well then I would say that that's... I presented you with case after case after case with
quote after quote after quote of people who are genuinely concerned about the impact you're having and you brush it off as if it's nothing.
No, what you have done is come here with an agenda. You've come here with loaded questions. You've come here with things taken out of context.
You come here with things that you don't understand are satirical,
And then you're gonna also sit and say that one woman said that her boyfriend changed when he watched one of your videos.
And then I don't know what you expect me to say to that. That's how you explain the comments you make. Would you like to apologize for any of them?
*fish*
for you to sit down. It's fine. No, it's fine. It's easy.
For you to sit down and say that one woman said, that her boyfriend watched an Andrew Tate video,
and now he won't do the dishes. Or whatever your argument is, and that I'm somehow the worst, most dangerous man in the world because I have a car.
is just disingenuous and I'm enjoying this interview very much because this shows
This shows the world. It's great. It shows the world the truth about the legacy media because they beg me for interviews.
They beg me, you have been begging me for months, please! We need to be relevant! And then you come here with loaded questions, trying to paint a picture of me, which is completely and utterly false.
I am a good positive influence for the world.
The things I teach men are stoicism,
discipline, self-respect, hard work,
obeying authority, listening to your fight coach, working hard in school,
Making as much money as possible in your job. If you actually watch the things I say, if you actually watch my comments about women, I've done long podcasts for hours long about females, talking about protecting for them, providing for them, how I believe women should be treated in a relationship. I've done all of this, but you don't watch any of it, and then you come here and ask me that, answer questions I've answered at length,
thousands of times. Since you came out of custom
there seems to have been a lot about your charity work.
Correct. On your social media. I've always done the charity work, but now I'm promoting online. There seems to be a real shift.
I wonder what's behind that.
Well, I've always done the charity work. I've been doing the charity work for years.
I believe that it's my legacy to leave a positive influence on the world. And I've been doing charity work for over five years.
Post-
My
my unfair, unjust incarceration, may I add,
Post that, I've made it more clear the charity work I'm doing.
But this is, again, once again, very interesting.
I spend $25 million a year feeding children. Men?
Male children and female children.
In Turkey, in Syria, in Iran, in Iraq, I literally spent 25 million dollars a year
feeding children and I'm still the worst man in the world because four years ago I made a sarcastic comment? Because some people would look at that and say okay so before
you got money
from attracting people
to your website.
by making controversial comments, but that might have got you into trouble. And so now you're looking for a new market.
You're looking for a new market of followers
We were attracted by a different sort of persona,
I've always done the charity work, so that is obviously correct. And I have proved that I've always done the charity work.
You're wrong, firstly.
I believe that if you have a lot of wealth, you should help people and I'm helping
I also think it's very, very interesting that you could not find another celebrity in the UK or anywhere else
who's spending 25 million pounds a year.
feeding children in war-torn countries
I'm doing that and I've been doing that for a long time without even mentioning it. I never even said it. And now that I've said it, people are going to attack me for it and say that it's disingenuous.
The person in Sudan who's eating the meal, do you think they believe it's disingenuous? No, I think they feel pretty good that Andrew Tate fed that.
And to sit here and say that I'm a bad person now because I'm manipulating charity
Because I'm using charity. I'm just trying to do good in the world. That's all I've ever been trying to do.
When women speak out against you online, disagree with what you say,
they describe being bombarded.
with rape threats.
death threats.
trolley.
by your followers.
would you like to say anything to your followers about how to behave in that situation? Absolutely correct. I would love to do that. First things first.
I've yet to see a female stand up and argue with me online. I don't ever see hardly any, only women who message
Secondly,
I don't think that anybody who disagrees with me, male or female, should be trolled. I don't think they should be insulted or attacked. I think the idea should be discussed openly and fairly and maturely.
It doesn't matter if a man agrees with me or disagrees with me or a female. I don't think my followers should come along and attack her. And if my followers are doing that, I'm upset by that.
Let's make a very important clarification.
That's not my followers.
That's the internet. If you're to log into any video game lobby, I don't play
and some were to sit there and say something stupid, they would be trolled with similar comments.
That's the unfortunate reality of the internet as a whole. That's nothing to do with me.
But I encourage all of my followers to open, to engage in open discourse and be fair and honest and talk in a way which is mature. There's no need to troll anybody, male or female.
Kathy?
And other things.
I wonder if you wrote this.
and you.
consider whether or not
I apologize.
or
give
about it.
allegations
that he has next to
Secondly, I think
record
that
interviews to you.
cause you.
Okay.
um,
So,
Just to put on the record then, you said that you've invited us into your house. Correct. We're here because you're under house arrest.
Correct. If you were free to leave we would have
negotiated a more neutral setting
Don't you think as the BBC it would be very interesting to come here and discuss the fact that I was put in a dungeon for 92 days?
and then locked in house arrest without charge? Don't you think that's a far more interesting conversation than old YouTube snippets?
Don't you think that would be interesting? You're here under house arrest because there's an ongoing investigation into rape and human
allegations against him. Correct. I've been incarcerated without charge. And don't you think...
It's been dropped.
Correct. So I'm incarcerated without charge. And I think that'd be a far more interesting conversation than I guess
Julian Assange is incarcerated without charge and nobody's interested
in that either. So if you actually wanted to do some genuine journalism and investigation,
talk about the fact that an innocent man who has yet to be charged with a crime has had
And I think that would be a far more interesting angle than talking about me being the most dangerous man in the world because I own the car.
And this question about schools being very worried about your
boys
in primary school or boys as young as 11 are quoting you at school,
attacking
goes.
refusing to
female T.
Would you like to say anything?
I'd like to say law.
First things first, as I've repeatedly said, and the only reason I keep repeating it,
you'll be editing.
I am a positive forceful.
world and I teach children
I teach the world discipline, male or female, of any age. And a lot of women listen to me as well. 40% of the people who listen to me are actually female.
Secondly, I do understand with my massive influence,
And I am now the one most influential people on the planet.
that I do have to be slightly more careful
I'm not going to disagree with that.
The idea that I said something five years ago on a video that got 300 views... So what do you mean, being slightly more careful? I'll give you an example.
some of the jokes I made four or five years ago,
on a YouTube channel, they got 300 views.
I would no longer make it. Like what?
Like
The OnlyFans joke.
The one you mentioned.
Repeat, when she said, "My man's car is my car,"
And then she said she did OnlyFans.
And I said, what do you sell on OnlyFans? She said, my tits.
And I said, well, those are your man's tits. As a joke, ha ha ha, everybody laughed.
The point, the fact that I could do that on a podcast five years ago and only got 300 views
Now I understand I'm the most influential man on the face of
planet, I would be more careful with certain things I say. That doesn't mean the things I originally said were genuinely out to harm people. Do you really believe you're the most influential man on the face of
I'm the most Googled person on the planet. Do you believe you're the most influential man on the face of the planet? I'm the most Googled man on the planet.
I think we're done.
Thank you.
-
Thanks, Lucy.
It was enjoyable. Nice to meet you.
- Thank you.
*laughs*
No, it was fun. It was good.
Enjoy it.
-
Thank you.
D-mic me, I don't want to damage anything.
-
- Thank you.
Thank you.
- Okay.
Okay.
I'm going to go.
Very nice to meet you. Thank you. Very nice to meet you.
Say that.
Oh, that's okay.
Goodbye.
It's very light-tap.
- Yeah.
Okay.
- What you want to do with that?
- Thank you.