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My name is Andrew Tate. I am four times kickboxing world champion and all around nice guy.
Yes, you are, Andrew. So there's been a bit of controversy lately with some of your statements on Twitter. Could you talk us through it? Yeah, I think...
Twitter surprised me because I only really...
took to Twitter when Trump won the election. I think that's what inspired me to tweet because I saw how upset everyone was for no reason. I'm a massive Trump fan and I started to tweet a lot more then. And Twitter is a dangerous place, man. I don't know where these humans
these people who argue with me. I really don't know where these people dwell, under a bridge somewhere, but Twitter really showed me that
the world is full of idiots. And since then, I've been stating my opinions, but I deliberately put them in a very brash, abrasive manner. So that is deliberate. You are like amping it up slightly. Well, I don't think I'm amping up the opinion. I'm not changing my opinion in any form. I'm just putting it in an abrasive manner. And I think that life is an abrasive place. I think nowadays we're all taught it's not, and we're all taught it shouldn't be. But that's absolute bullshit. The reality of life is that it is abrasive. If you're in a car crash, that's abrasive. Someone dies, bang, this is how the world is.
And I've never believed it to ever be any other way. So if I want to say something, I'm going to say exactly how I think it. And that's going to be abrasive to a snowflake. And I apologize. Thank you.
But specifically, the depression still seems to have set off an insane firestorm across social media. Yeah. The reason for that is very obvious to me. Yeah. And the reason that the depression thing is upset so many people is because depression is an externalization.
and externalizing your problems is the number one
is the number one plague of the modern society. Everyone's looking for a reason to externalize their issue.
I drink too much alcohol so I have alcoholism. No, you get up, you get money from this thing, you put your clothes on, you go down to the shop, you talk to the shopkeeper, you choose what you want, you put it in the bag, you walk home, you unlock the door, you pour it in a glass and you drink it. That's your fault. Don't say it's alcoholism. That is you making a bad decision.
"Oh, I'm obese because
of thyroid or some other crap. Like the thyroid makes a 6% difference overall to your body weight. Even if you have a thyroid condition, which you don't, you continue to eat cake and ice cream.
Stop talking shit. So everyone's just looking for a reason to externalize. And depression's a fantastic way to externalize. Because it doesn't matter what's wrong in your life, you can blame depression.
I'm a loser. My life's shit. I don't have a girlfriend. I ain't got any money. I don't have a good job. I'm stuck at home. No one cares about me. I'm depressed." Well,
You're depressed because of your situation, which you're refusing to change, and you think your situation is because you're depressed. And people go out the wrong way around in my mind.
- So, say you were running the depression camp, how would you get people out of their depression? - I'd get them out of the depression by making them understand the harsh realities of the world. And the harsh realities of the world is that life doesn't give a fuck about you.
Life doesn't give a shit about you. If a lion goes to hunt some gazelle, let's say you're a lion and you're chilling, and you see a whole bunch of antelope in the corner,
When the lions start chasing the antelope,
They get the slowest, weakest antelope. They get the babies. They get the one who's sick. They get the one who's got a broken leg. They don't give a fuck. They're not going to be like, oh, well, that one's sick, so we can't eat that one. Or that one didn't have breakfast, so it's unfair to chase that one down. The lion doesn't care. The lion gets the slowest antelope.
And life's exactly the same. So people would argue that we're not animals and that's the difference between humans and the animal kingdom. It's empathy.
Yeah. And yeah, and it's actually evolutionary advantage to be empathetic to people. I completely understand that. But my my analogy is regarding not other people as lions, but as life as a lion. OK, life is a lion. Yeah. So you you have to decide which antelope you want to be, because just like the lion, life doesn't give a shit who's at the back. And you have to decide if you want to be at the back and hope the lion's going to feel sorry for you when it's hungry.
and you can tell them all your excuses,
just before he rips your throat out, or you can make sure you're the one at the front by any means necessary. And that's a choice you have to make. And when people truly understand that and they stop externalizing their problems, then they believe
There's two choices. You either externalize your issues or you believe you have influence over your issues. There's no other choice. You have some agency in your life. You can change the way your life is. Absolutely. So I'm depressed. I'm unhappy. Well, why are you unhappy? Because X, Y, Z. Well, are you going to change them?
Because if you're not, no one's going to come into your life. Superman's not going to kick the door down and say,
Ta-da! I'm going to make you fit and give you a good job and a hot woman. That's not going to happen. You should have a show doing that. You should just go around kicking people's doors in. I'm going to change your life.
But people don't want to do that. People don't want the hard work. That's how they got depressed in the first place. And they want to have an excuse. And the reason that people got so triggered and upset by what I said is because I attacked their belief systems, like attacking someone's God. It's their it's their worldview.
It shapes everything they do.
Like if you believe in God or you believe in ghosts or you believe in depression,
Everything you do is influenced by this belief and when you attack someone's belief, they're going to get very desperate to defend it. But there is like a very large body of medical evidence that you know or medical opinion that Says depression does exist. Well, that's true. But then also funnily enough since I tweeted it I did quite a bit of research and there's also a large body of evidence saying that depression doesn't exist. Okay. Feel free to I don't want to quote it exactly but I think his name is Lauren Mosher.
He was the head of schizophrenic research at the Institute of Mental Health. So he's like the guy. And he concluded that depression is not a real disease because in 100% of cases, there's nothing actually wrong with the brain. He says, I can't detect anything wrong with the brain. All the brain scans they show you in depressed people, you can just take a brain scan of someone having an orgasm. Those are chemicals in the brain. You can see it. That does not mean that the person's got a mental disorder. You can see the depression in their brain because they've accepted they're depressed. The brain didn't change and then make them the depressed. People got the wrong way around.
So yeah, of course, everyone feels depressed temporarily. I've been depressed. Bad things happen to everybody. But you have a choice of let it consume you. How did you snap out of your unhappiness depression? Well, I snapped out of it because I understand that it's the only choice there is. I mean, was there a method you did? You know, like... I don't think there's a specific method. You just have to be harsh about the realities of the world.
Life doesn't give a fuck about you. Everyone who you're crying to your problems about doesn't really care. And you have to get it over with. You know, like bad things happen to everybody. They're going to happen to everybody. Yeah. And then we all die in the end. And then we all die. So you have two choices. You can let the bad things consume you. Or you can wake up one day and think, ah, enough of this. And you've got to push forward. And the crazy thing is when I say that to people, people say to me, oh, you're crazy. Yeah.
That is exactly how the entire world functioned until this new think bullshit came along. Until this new age crap came along, no one ever sat down and gave up.
You look at World War II,
People dying all over the place. Who gave up? Everyone just pushed, keep calm, carry on. There's bombs today, go to work. That's because that's how people were raised. But now this new think garbage has come and everyone tells me that I'm wrong. Well, we have a whole, you're asking for medical proof. The medical proof is the entirety of human history where nobody ever was too depressed to work because they had to fucking eat and people go on with things. So I think. Yeah, you've got to eat. You kind of do get up. Well, no, yeah, no one's depressed in Yemen.
Because they're, you know. - It might be post-traumatic stress disorder, which is a different thing. - A different thing. Yeah. Entirely. - Yeah. So, you know, because you can go through traumatic experiences and they can affect you. - Yeah. Yeah. - How would you differentiate between that? - Well, absolutely. That's exactly it. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, when I was saying depression, I'm talking about the 19 year old in their bedroom with nothing wrong with their life who's saying they're depressed. - Yeah. - That's completely different to post-traumatic stress disorder. - Yeah. - In my mind. Obviously bad things can happen to people and they can affect you.
Still, I believe you're a master of your own mind, but I think that's a much harder battle, depending on what you went through.
But it's really interesting you said that. I watched a TV show about
a German girl who survived a plane crash in the 1970s in Peru.
You seen it? Yeah. Well, I haven't seen the documentary. I know the one where she lived by the river. She followed the river. Yeah. Yeah. So the plane blew up in the air or something. It crashed. When she was the only survivor, she woke up. She saw her decapitated mother next door, still strapped in the seat. Everyone's dead.
She starts walking through the jungle trying to eat, ends up because of her wounds gets infection.
Ends up sure she's gonna die, passes out in a clearing, gets saved, blah blah blah. And they were talking to her what happened once she'd been saved and she obviously eventually made it back to Germany. Her family originally thought she was dead.
And she said, well, what happened when you got back? And he said, well, my dad tried to sell a book, but no one bought it.
So he told me I had to get a job because we needed work.
We need money. So about two weeks later, I was working like doing what in a shop.
And like, "Oh, did you go to a psychiatrist?" She goes, "No, we didn't do that." Like, you know what I mean? So this is one of the most dramatic things you can possibly go through. And she just went to a store, got a job and got over it. Obviously she had her own personal battle, but she pushed forward and now she's doing an interview at age 80 saying, "Yeah, well you just have to get on with life." So how are people going to tell me I'm wrong? I'm like, "This is the evidence that it's possible."
So it's crazy. But were you surprised by the vehemence of the reaction on Twitter? I don't think I was surprised. I wasn't surprised because I know I'm attacking people's belief system. People want a reason.
to be
People are a failure and they have to externalize their reason. They don't want to wake up and go, I fucked up. This is my one life and I wasted it. People don't want to do that. They want to think, well, I didn't follow my dreams because...
And it's not just depression, it's everything.
"Oh, I don't make money because Jeremy Corbyn's not in the Prime Minister." "If Jeremy Corbyn was Prime Minister, I'd push a Lambo." No, nothing would change. You'd still be a shit muncher. But they don't want to accept these realities. Because it's a very interesting thing, sorry to interject this, but there was some survey of the richest people in China, and they basically were the richest people. All through the communist era, everyone went poor. Now, it's like the people who were rich in the turn of the 20th century are rich again because they've kind of got
It's a mindset. Yeah, the mindset to kind of how to make money. Whatever situation, like you said, you'd be pushing the Lambo. Absolutely. You know, and if you're going to try and externalize, like I said, the depression thing, or you're going to externalize on politics, or externalize the country you live in, externalize it. People in Romania do this all the time.
"Oh, but my government's corrupt, that's why I have no money." I said, "He has a Bentley."
you know maybe his family has money maybe but not all of them some of them have pulled it off so it's down to you as an individual people don't want to accept individual responsibility because then they have to be responsible for their failures and that's true but were you secretly happy that it kind of blew up i loved it like the great thing about it is people were trying to give it to me like the celebrities and stuff and yeah i bet they were sitting there thinking oh i'm gonna get him
But I cannot explain how much I didn't give a fuck. And that's not bravado. That was just me laughing. Just sitting on Twitter laughing at the fuck. It was the best. It was hilarious.
I'm 100% sure there's not a word anyone could type that will genuinely upset me anyway. Because I'm above that. People have tried. I've got them all on there trying to quote my dead father and everything they possibly can. And it's just like, whatever. All water off the duck back to me.
about. I meant what I said.
Everyone was saying to me, when are you going to be sorry? Or I think a couple of famous people said, I guarantee he retracts this. And I was just like, mate.
I guarantee I'm doubling down. I mean what I said. So I'm sticking by it to the end. You can quote me for the rest of my life. I mean what I said. And I wasn't 1% upset by the backlash. But do you think, you know, people said there's an element of trollishness about it. Do you kind of...
Agree with that a bit that you kind of were baiting you kind of baiting everyone because it was the sacred well Yeah, because yeah, because people call me a troll But I don't see myself as a troll because I say what I genuinely think I don't wake up and they only change my opinion to annoy this person I don't hide behind an avatar. You know I am Andrew Tate. This is what I think yeah once I've upset them sure I
I'll twist the knife. Once everyone's crying their eyes out, then it's fun. Then it's just like salt in the wound. But until that point, I'm just tweeting what I think. And I have no idea who's going to bite. I've said that depression to him for the last five years. I've been saying the same thing on Facebook.
For years. For this time it went nuts. Why do you think that is? You never really understand the internet. I have no idea why.
But it's just how it kicked off. I've been saying the same thing for years and years and years.
When I tweet, I never know what's going to kick off. I'm sure it's going to happen again. And I'm going to double down on what I said. And we're not going to be sorry. And I'm going to mean it. So it is what it is. Because you are famous anyway in your circles. You know, you're a very accomplished athlete, etc. Would you, you know, some people will be trying to parlay this into a bigger kind of fame. Would you, are you going to try and do that?
I don't know. I mean, I never intended, like I said, I started tweeting after the Trump thing. I had 12,000 followers and I have 28. So I've grown. That's not a huge following at all in the world of Twitter, but I'm growing quite fast. But
I really don't have such a long term plan. I do enjoy it. I enjoy seeing how many people I upset
You know, like seeing everyone getting emotional over what I say. I think Twitter can be quite fun. Is this something, because you were a chess champion as a child, and chess is quite, you're trying to manipulate the other player into making mistakes and losing their right, etc.
Is that kind of, are you trying to manipulate everyone into
I don't know. - Giving you a cheap throw in a way? - I really don't know. I don't think I'm thinking that much into it. I really, everything I'm saying, it's just things I genuinely believe. And I know they're controversial, I know they're unorthodox, but I do genuinely believe them. I was raised with these beliefs and
and
I don't see how, as much as people told me this was the case,
What's an absolute fallacy is people saying that my beliefs are harmful.
I really don't believe that. If you don't believe in ghosts,
you're never going to be haunted by a ghost.
You may have problems or you may see something or whatever, but you're never going to be sitting there afraid of a ghost because you don't believe in ghosts. So I saw something in the corner. I must have been tired.
I'm going back to sleep. End of the ghost story. As opposed to, my house is haunted, getting exorcist, all this bullshit because you believe in it.
So I don't believe in depression. So when bad things have happened to me, when my father died or whatever,
I never allowed myself to wake up and think, maybe I have depression. Because it wasn't even in my realm of possibility. It wasn't even ever in my sphere. I was like, I'm upset about this and times are healing, whatever, whatever.
I've got work to do, let's get up, let's get done. And so I don't see why that's detrimental to anybody. But of course,
People are too stupid to understand that very basic way. Who's been your most famous detractor so far? I've had J.K. Rowling two or three times get upset by me. Yeah.
She gets a set quite a lot. Well, JK Rowling, the first time I was at JK Rowling was pointing out the pertinently obvious
is that she's obsessed with Trump because her husband's a loser. See, what I said was, I said, I've never seen... I've said this, what I said is, if my girlfriend constantly tweeted at some other dude, even if it was hate,
I'd walk in the room and say, look,
Hate and love are too closely linked. I know that because you barely like me. So you think J.K. Rowling... She wants him bad. So bad. So I would say she's obsessed with Trump because he's an alpha and she's the most alpha man she can find. And her husband must be a loser.
And I said this before seeing her husband, so I pre-diagnosed her condition. I don't know who her husband is. No one does, until I Googled it. So I said all this in advance, and then she said some bullshit back. I mean, even for her, it was a very weak reply. And then I thought, you know what, maybe I look stupid. Let me just quickly Google.
And boom, instantly correct. Like really like, yeah, he's a complete waste of space little worm.
So I just I'm sure you're a very nice guy.
Fuck you. Anyway, so he was a worm. So I tweeted a picture of him and everyone was like, oh, Tate's right, Tate's right. She's obsessed with Trump. So I proved that she's desperate for Trump's dick, which is the first thing. And then the depression thing upset her again. Absolute proof. Conclusive. And then the depression thing upset her because, of course,
billionaire JK who managed to make untold money with her shit story about a little wizard on a train platform. Man, it suffers from depression. I'm sure you have such real problems in your life, JK. What self-indulgent bullshit?
What kind of self-indulgent moron do you have to be in her position and pretend that there's anything depressing about your life? You lucked out. You won the lottery times a million. No one really should give a shit about your story.
Please drop the act. Would you sleep with JK Rowling? I don't know if she'd be ready.
for what happens to her. I can't believe I just told you. It would be one hell of a book.
I'll show her a magic spell she's never seen.
You're going to lose all your Harry Potter fans. You know, I've never even... I've never read it. I do not mind. I've never read it. But I don't need to know it's bollocks. You know, there's books out there about Stalingrad. That shit happened. You know, you want to read a book, you're going to read about the real heroes. Wickedy pickety. But that's a very good... Actually, it's a really good point. You picked up... Did you think we kind of mythologized too many wrong things in this culture now? And we kind of ignored the people that... Like you said, the guys at Stalingrad. Absolutely. Modern culture's fucked. Yeah.
of the women who I date.
If I mention Stalin, what's Stalingrad?
These people died for you. Yeah, but it was ages ago. They don't give a fuck. Imagine being in the trench and someone goes, we're going to show you a clip from 2017 discussing what you're going through right now as you starve. And it's some bimbo sitting there going...
like isn't that crazy? Yeah but is she hot though? She is hot. I forgive her for the night but this is the reality of the world and it's nuts and people idolize
absolute inane shit.
I'm against the music industry as a whole. I'm very convinced the music industry is a perfect example of how to control morons. Like I sit there and I see Rihanna
and she's got the best life ever, and she's rich as fuck.
Does she even play an instrument? Probably not. Does she write the music? No. It's all produced for her. And they bring her in the room and they say, okay, we're going to make a whole bunch of money. Here's your lyrics. And she says, okay.
Work, work, work, work, work. It's like, what the fuck? Is this how you become? Like, it's crazy. And then he's kind of sold to people as this...
And they'll play it on the radio so many times everyone likes it regardless. And then people will buy it and then she'll go do a concert.
And there'll be people in that crowd like she's Jesus. And I'm just sitting there thinking, I've never been to a concert in my life, but I'm just like, what? She doesn't even play an instrument. What the fuck is it? You can listen on YouTube for free. If the world lost his mind...
But this is the world. And like you said, no one gives a shit about the important stuff. Everyone's concerned with this absolute garbage. And this is, it's a big tapestry. It's a web. It's a web.
you know,
For the same reason you externalize your problems, it's the same reason you idolize someone else or externalize your happiness sources.
I eat alone quite often because I travel the world all the time. For the last two years, I've barely even had a house. I've been all over the place.
So I was eating in a restaurant my own,
And I heard a guy and a girl in there on a date
I was just sitting there listening for about an hour. Just listening. Just chilling. On my phone.
And, uh...
They were talking for an hour, and everything they spoke about
as they got to know each other,
was the absolute achievements of other people.
"Well, I like this band." "Oh, I like that band too." "Have you ever been here?" Like, everything they talked about, nothing was, "I've done this," or, "I want to do this." It was, "Have you seen this movie?" "What do you think of this?" And it was just everything everyone else has done.
And it's amazing that if you were to make a movie about that person's life, they're not even the main character in their own fucking life. They're just a consumer of everyone else's achievements.
And this is how people are going through the world nowadays. And they're wondering why they're unhappy. Well, if you're externalizing your happiness to some football team who doesn't even know you exist,
You know, they have to win for you to be happy. If you're going to externalize everything and have no self-control and just be a feather in the wind, well, then life's going to kick your ass and you're going to end up a shit muncher and that's where you're going to end up. It's tough.
- So, but is, you know, some might say that it's quite easy for you to say this because you're a high achieving guy who's done well in everything they've attempted. Like a lot of people, you know, they meet higher barriers and stuff like that. - Yeah, but I, you know, I had a talent for kickboxing, that's arguable, but without all the work I put in,
I would not have achieved what I've achieved. Now, if someone who's less talented than me, could they have been one time world champion as opposed to four? I believe they probably could have, if they've been through the shit I went through. The reason I anger everybody so much is because I'm not from a privileged background. My father was a world level chess player, but he was also
straight g which means when he got paid he's in the casino with the women he didn't give a about like he was very clear like you sons gotta make your own way in the world like you've got food for today so i'm out here like that's how he was
So we had, and when he died, he didn't leave us a penny. So there was no kind of trust fund, no kind. We didn't have a wealthy upbringing. We come from a very poor upbringing. When we moved to England, we were in a homeless shelter.
for the first year as we were trying to find council housing, and we were growing a single mother council estate. Every excuse everyone else has got to be a criminal asshole, and I'm not. So, you know, and people go, "Oh, you're lucky, "you could kickbox." Getting up and running to this gym, 'cause my mom didn't have a car, and we couldn't afford the bus, and running four miles training, then running four miles home is not luck.
you could have done that and didn't want to do that so you know people may meet barriers but
If you genuinely apply yourself, you'll do fine. So how would you change this? Because this, you know, if it's how you say it is, you know, most people are just going to
go home tonight, watch whatever idiot sees on the TV, and never do anything. Just sit on the internet complaining. Yeah, well, the world's fucked. Yeah. Society's finished.
I and I don't know. The Western world is finished.
And I genuinely believe the Western world is finished. We've reached a level of decadence now.
where I genuinely believe in 200 years from now, China is going to be sitting there looking at all the Chinese people, which will still be full of Chinese people, all the people in China will sit there reading a history book about how Europe used to rule the world and how it completely ruined it. The dangerous thing about this liberal new age weak think is not that it exists.
is that it exists in one part of the planet.
In China, if you're a shit muncher, you make the iPhones. And everyone knows that's what you're supposed to do, and that's your life. And you're happy to have that job. And if you're not, fine, you might jump off a bridge or whatever. But otherwise, you turn up to work on fucking time and you make the iPhones. And the smart people do the smart people shit. And that's just how society is. And that's why they're functioning as a country. When you have a society like this one, where everyone believes you're entitled, no one wants to do any hard work.
You know, everything goes down the drain.
You can't compete in the global sector. - But if everyone believes they're entitled, but actually would put in the hard work, then that would be a great society, wouldn't it? So maybe we've got half the equation, right? They're just-- - Well, yeah. Obviously not everyone. For them to be a winner, there has to be a loser.
and this is the truth about the world, not everyone can have a Lambo, then that wouldn't work. Yeah, but it's fierce. Exactly. But for them to be a winner, they have to be a loser. But I believe everybody has a conscious decision to make. And I'm not just talking financially. I know it's easy to talk finances. I'm not talking financially.
If you're a winner, if you live a life you're happy with.
If you wake up happy, you win.
That's the truth. For me, happiness was kickboxing and money and girls and all that typical
rap music shit. That's my thing. But if you're happy meditating and eating carrots, and you've managed to pull that off and your rent's still paid,
then you win. Like, I'm not going to sit and tell you that's wrong. If you're happy,
That's genuinely what it is. So defining success isn't a financial thing for me. It's a happiness thing. This brings back to the depression. I think a lot of people think there's something missing from their life, which then they kind of pass into I'm depressed. Yeah. And when actually if they kind of got up and did something. Well, you know, this is a normal I think this is a normal human emotion. It's normal for a human.
We've evolved in a certain way. You know, for a long time we didn't live in societies. You're normal to want something, to find something, to get something, hunt or gather, whatever. You know, but you have to decide what that is, and you either have to go get it or you don't.
And that's the truth about it. To sit around crying about it and believing taking a pill is going to make that go away.
to me is inane. To me, it really is madness. And the fact that JK Rowling disagrees with me proves that she's a fucking idiot. So would you go drinking with her? Absolutely, I'd love her. I'd happily sit and drink with the old lady and let her know how much she's desperate for Trump to do. She's not that old. She's desperate for Trump.
That's a fact. Would you turn up in a blonde wig and pretend to be Trump? I'd let her know. I'd just say fake news all the time while she'd get wet.
Yeah.
We love you, J.K. Rowling. He does. I think you're a dickhead. If Trump were to say, listen, baby,
"Your stories are shit.
But I'll give you some.
She'd be all like, don't tell anyone. And she'd be around there behind her husband's back taking it. 100% solid fact.
She's desperate.
*laughs*
Thank you.
I know I'm right. We'll have to interview her and get over there. I know I'm right. I just know I'm right. There's no reason for a woman to be so obsessed with another male unless there's a sexual connotation. Women are apathetic. Maybe she just thinks she's dangerous. Nah, women are apathetic to things. She doesn't give a shit about the world. She doesn't fucking care. Yeah, because what was that tweet you said, like, you know, celebrities don't give a fuck about the world. She doesn't give a shit. She's a billionaire. She doesn't care. She doesn't think he's dangerous. She's sitting there, and in her confused, small, old woman brain, she can't work out why.
She's so obsessed with this person, I don't know, with her dry vagina and she can't work it out, but if Big Trump was in the room, she would know what's going down. She'd know instantly. She'd start undressing herself and saying, "Now it makes sense."
This is what I've always really wanted. - Maybe they can write a book together. - Maybe. But I'm telling you now, JK, I've never seen a woman more thirsty. Thirsty, desperate.
What's your opinion on transgenderism and the whole issues surrounding that at the moment?
If you live 50 years as a man and then wake up on a Tuesday at 11 a.m. and decide you're a chick, you have a mental illness.
And this is really that simple to me. Because no matter what you try and do, and no matter how much the left pretend they embrace you,
You are never going to be a woman. You are still a man trying to adopt the appearance of a woman.
but you're a man. And if you believe deep inside yourself, the only way you're gonna find fulfillment and happiness in this life,
is to go through this bullshit
to end up nowhere and still be a dude, you have a mental condition. It's someone looking for something and they don't quite know what it is.
And they're just unhappy and they think, maybe if I wear a wig,
Maybe, maybe it'll all be okay.
But if it's not harming anyone, then what works? But it is harming everyone. Well, it's not harming me. There's a guy who's around the corner from me, wears a bikini. It's actually a crime against fashion. But it's not... No, it's not harming you directly, I understand it. But it's harming the social fabric of our society. The social fabric of our society is getting eroded to the point where people are so fed this idea that they must be so accepting of everything. We have five and six year olds.
trying to pretend they're transgender. A five-year-old doesn't even know his address, doesn't even know his phone number. And you want to tell me this five-year-old's intelligent enough to work out he's not a dude? He's never even fucked anybody. He's never had a boner. How is he, how is this person intelligent and grown up and mature enough to make a decision on gender? And, and, and this comes from everyone being told they must accept it at all costs.
And when you start getting a society that must accept ideas at all costs and never challenge
That is damaging to a social fabric. So what would you do, you know, if someone came to you and said they're transgender, you know, they're thinking of, you know, changing gender? I tell them that they're wrong.
And I would tell them that you're wrong. I would actually still say I agree with your right to go through that process if you believe so. But I'm not going to participate in the delusion that you're a female. The difference between my society and current society is that transgenders would still exist. However, in my society, everyone would still be calling them he.
Like he, you're a he who looks like a she, because that's what you are. And to try and propagate your delusions on others
is a dangerous society. For me to wake up one day and say, "You know what?
I'm Jesus.
I'm Jesus. You tell me I'm not Jesus, you're a bigot. I'm Jesus. Everyone just say, shut up, Andrew. Why is my delusion not accepted, but their delusion is? Funny enough, just to interject, you can see this on our YouTube channel. There is a man who is...
both a transvestite and thinks he's Jesus.
We've got it all going on. We've got that covered. But this is my point. These delusions, they want to propagate their delusions, and society, the social fabric, is telling us we have to swallow them.
That's not acceptable. All ideas are open for challenge. My ideas are open for challenge. You want to challenge my ideas, I completely encourage you. I never at any point did anyone say, no one should ever say I'm not right. You want to say I'm wrong, that's fine.
Because I have an opinion, you have an opinion, and between the two, it's probably where the truth is. I'm probably 100% right. I'm not 100% right. You're not 100% right. This is where the truth is. But certain ideas, they're trying to tick off the list. No, they said they're transgender, so that's true, and you can't disagree with them because you're a bigot. And they'd say this, and you can't disagree because they said God's real with no proof. And you have to... When you start doing that and putting these ideas in these safe spaces... And this word...
that's thrown around a lot is tolerance. I often say to people who use this against me, you need to be more tolerant.
Why?
Tell me how everyone, tell me how being tolerant of a man pretending he's a woman is good for anything.
I'm not even saying he can't look like a woman. - But tell me how it's bad. - Well, it's bad because it's damaging the social fabric. It's damaging the society as a whole to have these ideas which must be forced accepted as bullshit. - But what if he just wants to wear dresses and stuff? - I'm not saying he can't. - Okay. - I'm never saying that a transgender can't go through that process. I'm telling you that no one should accept that you're a woman.
I welcome you. I'm not the person who's going to police your appearance. You want to look like a chick, fine. But never at any point am I going to believe for half a second you are a female. Because there are societies across the world where there is a third sex, where it's kind of in between. And it's kind of a way to deal with men who like dressing as women. And maybe we should try that. Well, I don't know what we should try, but I just know that if you want to come along and pretend you're a woman to me, you're absolutely not. Bruce Jenner, or Caitlyn, whoever his name is, is a man, still is a man, managed to win Woman of the Year somehow.
Congratulations. But you are a man. You retain, you stay as a man. And this whole left Hollywood, I don't even know. But even they cut it off. He's a dude, you know, DNA, biological, you're a dude. And all, and all this left Hollywood bullshit society is going to try and say, he's a woman, he's a woman, you're a bigot. And I'm just, I'm not buying it. And I refuse to buy it. And it's absolute garbage. It's completely not true.
And I'm not going to bow. Sorry, JK.
Fuck you. So you're on Big Brother, and you've got...
- Pulled out, yeah, kicked off. 'Cause of the sex video, 'cause you just talked-- - No, that's not why I kicked off. Here's the real reason I kicked off.
So that girl from the sex video, there's actually been-- if you Google Andrew Tate's girlfriend,
There's been articles since where she's gone to the papers and said that was all fake. So that's the first thing. So everyone goes, "You're a woman, Peter."
Well, the girl herself has come out and said it's fake. Then everyone goes, you paid her to say that. So you can't please these trolls. So I don't even bother refuting it anymore.
I'm still good friends with her. I was with her yesterday. And this is like two, three years ago. So we're still good friends anyway. The real reason I got kicked out of Big Brother is because I was too good at triggering everyone.
So what happened was I was only in there for about nine days and four people walked out, and every single man there at some point had threatened me with violence. So they took me into the diary room and they said, "We're really concerned about the dynamic of the house. This is all off camp." I was like, "Well, the rules of Big Brother, we all signed a contract saying no one's allowed to make threats."
I'm not threatening anybody. All these people are threatening me. You need to shut down their threats. I'm like, yeah, but people, you know, you're very controlled and they're more emotional. And we just want to guarantee that in the event of an altercation, you won't hit anybody.
So basically they said, we've got a whole bunch of idiots in here who can't control themselves, children. And if they swing for you, we want you to play Floyd Mayweather and do nothing about it for four and a half minutes while security turns up. I said, no, I'm not going to start an argument. But if they're going to swing at me, they're going to get knocked the fuck out. I don't know if there's two of them going to attack me. I ain't getting punched on TV. I don't know what's going on. I don't know this guy. Maybe he knows something. If you swing at me, I'm taking you out.
So that's my position. I'm not going to start, but as soon as they start running their mouth, you better send security in advance because I'm taking them out the game.
And they must have sat around, all the producers sat around and thought, shit. Shit. Over the next three months, this is going to happen. And he's going to hurt them bad because they're all weaklings with big mouths.
And because literally everybody was getting triggered and threatening me, not just one, all of them.
They thought, were you enjoying that? I didn't give a shit. It's not even an enjoyment, I just don't care. Whatever. So they sat and thought, this is a liability, we've got to get this guy out of here. So they used the sex tape as an excuse.
Okay. So it was all bullshit.
Yeah, because they really made out you'd beaten the woman. The early reports. Well, it's bullshit because the girl came forward and said it wasn't true. And they had a dominatrix in the house. And at the same time, Laura and Marco had a belt and were hitting each other on the show. It's all bullshit. They didn't give a fuck about that. They just thought, this guy, man, this guy's too much for this show. He's too smart for these motherfuckers. We've got to get him out here.
- So you were saying before the cameras rolled, you're considering retiring from kickboxing. Could you talk us through that a little?
Kickboxing has been such a massive part of my life, it's hard to even say I'm retiring.
A part of me wants...
I don't know.
I don't know, I can't even internalize it in my mind.
it was much easier for me to turn up at the gym and train like I needed to train.
before I found
the financial success I found that's only partial to kickboxing. I've got some investments and things going on in Romania and now making money and I've got other things that I need to concentrate on. And if I don't
If I fight,
I lose focus somewhere else.
And overall, I don't make any money. By the time I get paid for the fight, I lost somewhere else. Yeah, I just don't. I always feel, I never wake up and think, I have nothing to do today.
somehow I've always got something that needs to happen.
Or, you know, I can load up chess and play chess for 12 hours, you know, drink a bottle of vodka and get two or three big booty cuties around. Fine. I'm not bored.
That sounds quite the lie. It's alright. Would you consider yourself a role model for today's youth?
I think that masculinity is being attacked from every front. And I think that is dangerous for society.
I do think that
the world has functioned, societies have functioned, and humans have progressed so far with clear gender roles. I genuinely believe that. People sit and say, gender roles aren't real.
Well, if gender roles aren't real, please explain to me why in every civilization since the dawn of human time, men have had a role and women have had a role. This couldn't have been an idea that spread. The Aztecs didn't meet the Ming Dynasty. These are all this other fucking planet.
They don't know each other. It's just
They've naturally decided, well, men do this, and this is how men are supposed to be, and this is how women are supposed to be.
I think masculinity is being attacked and
I don't know where that's going to lead, but from the things I've seen so far with all this transgender and jumping all over the place and all this craziness, I don't see anything good coming from it.
What I do see is history where we managed to build the Great Wall of China and go to the moon with gender roles. So we populated the whole planet. We fought saber tooth tigers. We invented vaccination. We did all these great things with gender roles. And now you want to come and say, you know, that has to change. I'm like, why?
But I guess someone would argue that, you know, like, interested in science, like Marie Curie, she, you know, she had a harder time as a woman being a scientist, and she would have been a man and that could have been, you know, detrimental to humanity. So that's a that's a very good point. And I'm not saying that we should
Obviously, we should take into...
the fact that we should take new things into account, etc. But to sit and say, "Men shouldn't act masculine in any form." I think that's dangerous. I say, "Why?"
Men, you know, men being masculine have done great things for the world. And I guarantee whoever's tweeting that shit, when they're stuck in a fire and they're waiting for the firefighter to kick that door down, they're hoping he's a big, strong man who can carry him. They're hoping he's not a little female, transgender, lesbian. They want to be a dude who's ready to risk his life, you know, for your life. So to sit and say masculine, people say toxic masculinity. And I've tried to even Google what this is. To me, all I see is, well, masculinity. Being a man in any form is now toxic. And it's crazy.
TO FILL.
Women have a purpose and a role to fill, and femininity is very important, and so is masculinity. Do you think there's a crisis in masculinity across the Western world? Well, yeah, actually, you just said there is.
Why do you think that is? Who's behind it? That's a very good question. Now, I could be a conspiracy theorist about it. Yeah, we've got tinfoil hats on. All right, so if I were to put my tinfoil hat on,
I genuinely believe
That society as a whole is much easier to control when you remove the warriors of a society.
That's the truth. In the olden days, when men revolted or men rioted,
government's changed. Things happened. Nowadays when the vegans go rioting,
Who gives a shit? No one. So it's different when men existed and
the modern version of it. I think society as a whole is much easier to control. I think lower testosterone levels mean that as a whole, people are far more easy to subvert. They accept things they wouldn't previously accept. And I say this because as living in Eastern Europe, where men are still men,
The reason they don't have any of the immigration or refugee problems is
If they tried that shit over there, if they even tried it, they wouldn't last. The men would just say, "You killed how many of our children?" They'd be gone overnight. Fuck them up. I'm not saying it's right. I'm telling you what would happen. I'm not saying it's correct. I'm not advocating it. I'm not saying we should do it. I'm telling you what would happen in these countries. In our country, we're like, "Oh, well, let's just hope no one says anything racist."
That's all they give a shit about. And, you know, when people, children are dead. And this is what happens when you remove the warrior instinct from men, you remove the warriors of society, and a society will buy any bullshit you throw at them.
Doesn't matter what you do to them, they'll lap it up. You remove the warriors of a population, you can do anything you want.
You can do anything you want to them. The fact that England for so long even put up with Brussels and their bullshit, like people complaining about Brexit, but you know, Brussels, a completely different country making up your laws. So if we put up for that for so long. - We could argue for a few hours on that. - Yeah, okay. - So we'll move swiftly on. - But you know, I'm just saying, I think if you remove the warriors of a country. - I agree with, you know, like wage stagnation and you know, people, you know, men don't do the traditional jobs, like still working coal mining, etc, etc. And they've lost their place in the world to an extent. - Absolutely.
You know, you could, and there is a bit tinfoily, but you could argue that it could be deliberate, because if you've got a population you can't support,
with like, you know, decent wages and stuff like that. You know, in the old days, like you said, they'd be rioted. Even 30 years ago, they'd be rioted. And look, I'm an immigrant from America. My father's black. I'm mixed race. Don't call me racist because I'm not. My best friend's Muslim. My trainer, Amir, he's a Bosnian Muslim. So I'm not racist. But this immigration thing and all that kind of thing that's going down...
Once again, females, never since the dawn of history, have ever had the responsibility of being protective of a territory. Females are not territorial by instinct. That's a man's job. Men are territorial.
So the only people who should be concerned with the literal invasion of this country, and I'm going to call it an invasion, because when you have a large percentage of the population who are prepared to kill themselves to kill you,
That's an invasion. It doesn't matter if there's a thousand of them or 500, whatever. When there's a percentage of a population prepared to kill you by any means necessary, to a degree you've been invaded.
So, if there's a problem in this country, only men are the people who are territorial enough to stand up and do something about it. And when a man decides to say anything even about the issue,
He's branded instantly a bigot and a racist.
What would you do? Well, that's a very good question. But I think the first thing we need to do is absolutely be respectful and patriotic about the sovereignty of the country. And even that doesn't exist nowadays. You ask the typical English person, are you proud of me? Me. Oh, yeah. No, but you have to be... But I think jingoism and patriotism can often be used by people who haven't got the best interests of the people at heart. And that's why I always shy away from...
sort of, you know, waving the flag, because it's a version of England that I probably don't agree with. No, I completely agree. And this is the number one problem with the right as a whole, is that when I say these things,
What I'm actually saying is,
We need to include the Muslim community to the point where we understand what Britishness is. Not to the point where they don't speak English and they don't give a fuck what country they're in as long as they get to go to the mosque. That's not British. We need to include the Muslim community to the point where when they do hear something of an extremist nature,
they're straight on the phone. Because when someone says to me, no one knew anything, he was a lone wolf. Bullshit. That's bullshit. There is a lot, to be fair, there is a lot of people dobbing other people in. It does happen quite a lot. Because the guy in Manchester, people were ringing up about him, and they weren't doing anything about him. My very simple view on it is that,
the only people who can fix Islamic extremism are Muslims. I cannot come along and tell an Islamic extremist that he's wrong about the Quran. He would not respect my opinion. - Tell him about depression. - Yeah, exactly. Tell him about pretty much everything else. But only Muslims can fix this. So it is an Islamic problem. I'm not saying that they're all terrorists. I'm thinking it's an Islamic problem that must be fixed with Islamic-- - Yeah, fixed within the community. - But people are so cowardly nowadays, they don't even want to stand up and say it's an Islamic problem. They don't even want to diagnose the problem. If you have a business and the problem's in manufacturing, but you don't want to know what, you don't want to even diagnose what the problem is. You want to start yelling at the sales guys.
Your business is going to fail. I think people are just scared that, you know, when you say stuff like that, is that people tend to think that you meet all Muslims. Every single Muslim in the country is now a problem. And when you say these things, you attract the genuine racists. Yeah, yeah. And they ally with you. Like, I've tried to say some of these things before, saying we need to work closely with the Islamic community, and it is an Islamic problem, and only us working closely with the Muslims will fix it. Yeah. Then someone will, kill all the Muslims. That's not what I said. So you do get those guys, and they discredit your whole argument. Yeah, exactly. So it is difficult.
Even just the immigration thing, even the wage stagnation, lots of things are happening within this country.
It's the fact that they get away with them because they've removed the warrior spirit from males. And when you do that, you can do whatever you want. This is a question that I probably know the answer already. Would you consider yourself an angry person? I think
that
the word angry can be misunderstood. I think I'm an angry person.
but I genuinely enjoy being an angry person. People assume anger is quite a sad, low-frequency emotion, whereas I think anger is an extremely energetic emotion.
I was a fantastic kickboxer because I'm angry.
The only thing that will get you out of bed and go to the gym at 6:00 in the morning when you're fucked
and you don't want to, and you've literally got a broken ankle.
is just waking up and just being pissed off.
Like it's always done me well. Like I don't have a criminal record. I've never attacked anybody. I have self-control.
Just because I don't externalize my problems. I don't believe I have an anger issue. I don't externalize it like the depressed idiots do.
I understand who I am. I've never lost my control in any situation where I shouldn't have. But I think anger is an extremely powerful source. I think it's an amazing...
pot of unlimited energy. And it's a great thing to have if you can attribute it in the right direction. Like I genuinely
Even when I was kickboxing, before I had money, I genuinely used to get angry I had no money.
Like, like, people would, a Ferrari would drive past. People would go, "Oh, a Ferrari." And I'd ruin my day. I was like, "Fuck."
Yeah, because you want a Ferrari. Yeah, like, how does he have a quarter of a million for a car, and I don't?
And it really used to make me, people go, why are you pissed off? I was like, no, don't you understand? This dude's doing something we're not doing. And I'm also just like.
For me, I was like, no, no, there's got to be something here. Yeah. And then there's a way to get there. Yeah. And then, and now I have one. Everyone's like, Oh, you're lucky. No, I've been thinking about this for 10 fucking years. So it's a long process and I really genuinely wanted it. And now I've got it.
Have you ever crushed any of your calls?
Never had a car crash.
- Touch wood. - I'll not have a question, I'm too good for that shit. - Okay, rounding up. So obviously, because of your reputation, some people who might consider themselves depressed will be watching this video. Have you got a message?
to the sad, depressed person in Michigan. Oh, hello, Michigan. I'd be depressed too. You've got a choice. You've got a choice.
You have a choice to make. You have a choice to make every day you get out of bed. You can accept you're depressed.
or you can fix it. This is a choice you have to make. The same thing about being depressed, fat, lonely, sad, ill-educated, anything. You have a choice to make and you can make it.
If you're really looking for people
who are going to bother to push you across that line. Maybe you have an amazing family, maybe you have an amazing spouse, maybe you do.
But most people really cannot be asked to lead the horse to water.
It's down to you to do it. And you can come at me. Feel free to tweet at me. All your excuses. Get them all prepared. Put them in nice tweets. Do a nice thread. Tweet them at me. Because when you're finished tweeting,
nothing's going to change. You're still going to be depressed. I'm still going to be happy. And you're still going to be sitting there with all your excuses as a loser.
So you can make your choice how you want to live your life.
It's really that simple. Well, thank you very much.