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Oh, I hear something is this mr. Andrew Tate? It is sir. I'm trying to sort my camera out. Oh, yeah, sure you want to call me back when you got it sorted no rush. No problem. Oh
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Oh, settle down. It's your time to go take a piss. Go take a piss and, you know, I don't know. And kill yourself. Um, there he is. Oh, that's a little much. See, there you go. There you go. Here you go. Turn on your video. Hey, what's up, man? Let me pull up your video on my end so everyone can see your handsome face. Let me, uh, pull my headphones. No.
Now we don't do video just as a bandwidth thing, but you're coming through great.
Cool. We record it.
- Right, can you hear me a little bit better with this? - I think so, yeah. Can you hear us okay?
Yeah, I agree perfectly. It's the internet handshake. You have to ask if you can hear each other okay. How are you doing, my brother? Thank you for calling in.
Yeah, man, I'm doing good. I'm surviving. You know how it is trying to stay alive out here in this crazy imaginary virus. Yeah, it is. We're running from a mad yet again for the I don't know how many of time in my lifetime. We are all cowering in fear of everyone's imagination.
That's pretty much it, man. I've slowly come to the realization that the virus is not real.
not really at all that conclusion really so i believe there is a virus and i believe it's out there i just don't believe it's deadly and i think they're many i think they're manipulating the numbers of people who die that's already been proven they're saying people died of covid when they died of other things and it's basically just the common cold coupled up with a power grab this is what i believe but the the so by the way hold on you're talking to sean sean i got to introduce you this you're talking to sean the audio engineer he is he is as attractive as you unlike me i am
so maybe you guys could bond over that sean you were saying oh i was like i'm sure i can't fight like him well no one can that's why he's the man uh what were you saying well i'm i'm saying you know they've basically shut the whole world down so what what yeah imaginary it's a stretch for me to to go there where it's is is it a giant worldwide conspiracy to to shut all the economies down to
Just explain on that.
Yeah, I don't think it has to be as big of a conspiracy as you think. I think you just need to realize that those I mean, I don't believe there really is such a big shadowy cabal that sit in me and make all these plans, etc. But I do understand that the people who are really in charge of the world, economies don't bother them. Economies are for poor people.
Like if you're really in charge of the world, you don't need money. You control everything. You print money on demand. You have all the food and water and air. People are always going to come back to you. You can print unlimited money. What you're always looking for is more control and more power. So if there's a move you can make that's going to give you more power at the expense of an economy, you don't give a shit because you're above economies. You control economies. You create money from thin air anyway. So I think that there is a lot going on that they're not telling us. Absolutely. I think the virus is not deadly at all.
common cold I think that the more and more we see that the numbers are manipulated in regards to deaths and those kinds of things it's just fishy I don't it's definitely not 5g there definitely is a virus but I just think the whole no no on 5g no fuck but okay good 5g is great no on 5g no I agree with you I've been pretty vocal about that as soon as the lockdown started I thought oh well that's I don't care about the virus anymore at all though I care about the
enormous stretch. But people like, like, okay, uh, do you listen to top 40 music?
Me? No. Sean, do you? Never. Never, right? No. Generally, I- No. 'Cause it sucks, right? Yeah, well- People collectively got together and said that music is good. So if you want- if you want to know what people can collectively decide is the right course of action to do, just go look at everything that's popular and realize how much you hate it.
They're like, "Oh, these people have no fucking idea what they're doing. They're just terrified." Anyway, I don't want to talk about the virus. Wait, how is it? Are you in lockdown in Romania?
Yeah, so remain now it's got strict lockdown. So we can't go out the house without paperwork. You have that paperwork saying where you're going on the streets. Ah, it's crazy. Are you locked up with a bunch of chicks? Oh, there goes out and just forges for paperwork and pays bribes. You just can you can bribe your way out of it because it's just corrupt. It's just stupid. The whole thing is stupid. Well, you can die. You can you can always bribe your way out of any that's that's that's the world over. Yeah. Are you locked?
- Slightly less than 2000, you know, slightly less, but I'm all right. - Slightly less than 2000. Your Instagram is incredible. Yeah, let me, I'm pulling it up right now so Sean can see.
- There's one of your, I mean cars that I don't know, I don't know what they are, but they look awesome. And you've got hot chicks all over the place. - Yeah, I've got two Instagrams. I've got @cobratate, and I've also got one @tatelimited, T-A-T-E-L-T-D. - Yeah. - And Tate Limited is more girls, and Cobra Tate is me trying to behave a little bit. Trying. - Tate, say it again, Tate LTD. I'm gonna type it in right now.
You can see I must be behaving a little bit less. Tate LTD.
Oh my my my. How did you get so lucky? Well, I don't know. Is it luck? No, no, no. Look at this. Oh, yeah. No, it's not luck.
- No, it's not like I was in the industry, so I don't know if you guys know, but for a while I ran a webcam company. - Yeah.
Yeah, so I was kind of on the money side of it all so that was just a bonus having the chicks around was kind of a bonus But I was really in it for the money. How was how was running the webcam company? I've heard of that But what was your what was your experience like how the hell did you get into that?
Yeah, it's a really long story. I was a kickboxer. I was world champion, but kickboxing is not like boxing. So I had some money, but not a lot of money. I lost a bunch of money in the casino. I was broke. I was sitting around thinking I need to make some money. How can I make money? And I was literally sitting there just thinking, how can I make money? I can't think of anything to do. My next fight's three months away, blah, blah, blah. And I started writing down all the assets I had. I thought, well, let me write down the assets I have. Let me see where my position is.
bunch of crap my car I can fight and then I wrote down I had like eight girlfriends and I had all these girls from all around the world where I'd travel and I'd fight and I'd fuck a ring girl and I just keep her with my girlfriend and they all thought I was some big millionaire in love with the world champion he's in London one day he's gonna fly me to London and we're gonna be together and I'll just they all thought was rich real broke yeah well
I could I could play rich, you know, I could play the game. So anyway, so I thought, you know what? I thought, well, could I what I do with the girls? I know I'm not gonna put them on the track. I'm not, you know, gorilla pimpin I can't I can't open a strip club because that takes too much money Hmm, and then I kind of was while I was looking up things I kind of discovered this webcam thing and I didn't know it was even real I couldn't believe it was real and I thought okay, they're also on webcam talks to guys
- Why didn't you think it was real? What year was this and why didn't you think it was real?
Yeah, so this is about five, six years ago. So the webcam thing was quite new. Yeah. And to me, before I was in the industry, the idea of a man paying money to sit and talk to a girl on webcam when porn is free was alien to me. Yeah, I couldn't. I was just like, why would they do that? Now that I've been in the industry for a while, I understand it a lot more. And I understand it's about the personal interaction. It's about the friendships and they really like the girls a person. And at the time, I was like, exactly. And yeah, go ahead.
So I was trying to start a chat line, and then I ended up flying six girls in on the same day, sat them all down at the table.
This is a true story, they're all like, who the fuck's this bitch? They didn't know about each other. I just sat there and said, look,
here's the plan you're all going to come live with me and we're going to run a cam company and then uh four of them got back on planes and blocked me and never spoke to me again two states and that was kind of that was kind of the beginning of the of the cam company and within three or four years i was turning over a couple million dollars a year and paid money that was it what was this all in the same house all these chicks doing cam shit all day for you yeah so it there's a whole bunch of the story's never ending so you know it's like a tapestry i can go
This is like, you're describing it. If it was your life instead of the 72 Virgin things, I'd be flying planes into the World Trade Center right now. This is a fantasy you're describing. - It sounds better than it is. Like everything in life. - Tell me about it. - Oh yeah. Hang on, let me get the violin.
- Yeah, it sounds cooler than it is like everything in life. Because I was truly, I think the reason I was so successful is I was not blinded by the pussy. I was really, truly, I wanted money. I needed money. - Yeah.
I was about the money. So these two girls stayed. We were staying in the shared apartment. They both stayed in my bed. I fucked 'em both. That lasted for about three weeks to one of 'em, they all got in a argument with each other. One of 'em ran away. I found a replacement pretty quickly, 'cause then I just started saying, okay, well now I need to date girls to get girls to work for me. So I'm not trying to get girls to love.
I need them to work. But then I also worked out. It was much easier to get them to work if they loved me. Yeah, I kind of became like, you know, like James Bond, like get them to love me and shit. And then be like, okay, well, you can quit your job and work for me, baby.
And that's kind of how it went. And I build a little bit of an empire in England. And then what happened was, I think it's the first time I'm going to say this public. So this is a world exclusive for your podcast. So one one girl.
uh i had at my peak i had a lot of girls i ended up trying to go official with it and get like a management structure and stuff and that was a huge mistake you tried to get the girls on mlm structures we're gonna yeah yeah we're gonna do affiliate scam them well every not enough to them you gotta their money you gotta their money too right sometimes every company has to downsize you know you've got to cut some you gotta trim some fat and tighten up where you can you have a reward system like banana stickers yeah so basically what i tried to do is i i i learned
it's better to have special forces than have an army. But I tried to have an army. So like any, I'd put any bitch on, I don't care if you're a pig, I don't give a fuck. Any girl who said they'll do it, they'll do it. So I got to the point where I had four premises, 75 girls all working on cam. But-- - Oh God. - Just by the odds. - Just numbers. - Yeah. - But the problem is, the problem is when I started the business, I was moan, 'cause the basic structure was, the girls would make a bunch of money. - Yeah. - I'd keep all the money, and give them a little bit.
That was the basic structure. - Well, I could do that. - Well, it's business strategy.
- That's the business. - How much would you give them? Can you give us an idea of like how much money you were pulling on? Because I've seen you tweet shit about guys sending your girls like a thousand bucks, five thousand bucks in cash, just as a one off.
- Yeah, yeah. - And I know how desperate guys are. Like, what kind of turnover were you talking, and what kind of percentage would you give the girls?
- Okay, so my best girl would do about $40,000 a month. - Oh my god! - And I'd give her $40,000 a week. - Sean, we're in the wrong gender.
Maybe. And how much? Is it 14 or 40? 40. 40. Oh, Christ. Jesus.
And I give her $1,000 a week. I give her a rest. $1,000? Okay, so that's generous.
- I mean, that's a point. - She gets $1,000 a week, she gets free rent, she ain't got to worry about nothing. If I travel or we travel, I pay for everything, whatever, but $36,000 a month I'm keeping.
Wow, and that was your best girl. What was your worst? Well, bro. I had some I had some zero girls Don't worry about that. Yeah, I'm plenty of zero girls, but but an average girl will do maybe nine or ten thousand a month. I
-Goddamn, dude, that's incredible. -Goddamn, dude, that's incredible.
- So they're all on OnlyFans right now, turning over. - Yeah, I've got girls on OnlyFans right now, still. - Man, if I was him, I would just quit fighting altogether and just get like as fat as possible and just keep, just sit on the couch and just like, how do you have these women feed me grapes? And you look like, you look like hedonism bot. - Yes. - Yeah.
What's the why do you stay so fit fighting that's actually I did retire from fighting is that right because you're a young guy You're still I mean you're still fighting age
Yeah, I am. Yeah. So I was, I was about 27 and I thought, you know what, I've got four world titles and you know what, if I, if I give up fighting and focus a hundred percent on this, this can make me very, very wealthy. So I retired, I retired from fighting. I came back this year and I just fought and won, but I took a three and a half year gap from fighting. I retired, uh, almost four and a half year gap to focus on getting girls to work on webcam. So it was like the focus of my life. Well, yeah.
I had a question for you. You said the two girls were sleeping in your bed. Logistically, how did you work that out? Were you in the middle? Did you make one sleep on the foot of the bed like a dog? How did you logistically figure that you have a larger than average bed?
- No, so-- - 'Cause it sounds hard. - Even when, sometimes this still happens in my horrible life, and I'm in the middle, but there's, the problem with it is this. I've had to learn to sleep on my back, 'cause I used to sleep on my side. - Yeah. - But what would happen is, there's always arguments, 'cause whichever girl you face, the one who's not getting faced,
- The next morning you'd be pissing. - The competition, man. - Yeah, this is a great conversation. - So you learn to sleep on your back and be neutral, you know? So I had to learn to sleep on my back. And then also, it's really hot in between two girls. I don't know why it gets very hot very quick, and then you can't move the covers, 'cause the covers are on the bench. - Two comforters. Oh, how did you solve that?
I just what could you do you just you know open the window and just try and come enough to sleep This is what it is, but you have to struggle. It's not actually very comfortable. Give this a shot It'll change your life two comforters because the reason you get so cooked in the middle is that the one comforter goes everybody and it Focuses all the body heat on you two comforters you throw one on a wonder under one arm throw a leg under the other one You're set you can regulate your body temperature just by sticking limbs inside
thinking about i was thinking if i do two covers i'm gonna have problems like because i kept rolling over my sleep i'm gonna end up under one set of covers with one chick and it's gonna be headache because what i ended up doing is my basic philosophy for the cam business was just to become a completely unreasonable dictator so like if i woke up in the morning and a girl had an attitude and she was giving me shit i just start packing her stuff and throwing out the door i didn't have time sleeping the arguments yeah you know and uh that worked a lot but the turnover of
coming and going. - Yeah. - 'Cause they'd test me and I-- - Mostly coming. - Yeah. - Call their bluff. So, but yeah, so the very, sorry, the very, to carry on the story, the very short version is, I had a girl, when I tried the big business, it didn't work because the main way I motivated the girls was with attention and through love for me and not money. And when you have 75 girls, you can't do that. So you try and motivate them with money, and that doesn't work. 'Cause then they think, well, why am I giving him a cut at all? - Yeah. - And then it gets a problem. And then, even though there's a lot more
I had just set up, there was a big technical side, there was a huge motivational side, there was a bunch of work I actually genuinely did. So I'd have girls who were making, let's say, 10,000 a month. And at the point when I had all those girls, they were keeping 7,000 a month of it. So they were getting a lot of it. They'd quit, leave, but without me to help them, and set their shows off-- - They couldn't do shit. - And also, they'd make nothing, they'd make 3,000 a month.
So they, they, they, and then they'd asked to come back, but I couldn't have them back. So it's bad in front of the other girls. So I had all these girls who were like self-sabotaging and all this crazy crap. So I'd cut it down to my five best girls.
And I bought a new penthouse. And I thought, okay, my five best girls, my new penthouse, everything's going to be fine. And I spent loads of money on new computers, new setups. Everyone had their own set. Everything was beautiful. Anyway...
Girls got to fight one day when I wasn't in the house. I came in you get a sixth sense for this I could come in the house and I could like smell the girls have been fighting I just walked in and like you know, you know, you just come in like, you know, you see like a movie and you the bad The good guy knows the bad guys around the corner It's like a dog when it when your dog goes through the trash and you come in and you see that look on the dog's face You're like I know you fucked. I know you fucked up something. Yeah. Yeah, uh-huh So I could I could smell there was a fight anyway and two of the girls were really really drunk and um
So when she started throwing up, I said, listen, clean up. What the fuck? Like, and she was actually quite a cool person in general. She wasn't an idiot. She just drunk way too much. So I was like, clean up. She was like, I'm not cleaning up. We have a cleaner, blah, blah, blah. So the cleaner comes Monday. It's Friday night. Clean up for sick. Anyway, she wouldn't listen to me. So I packed her stuff, threw it out the door.
She left, fired her on the spot. The other four girls worked. Everything was okay. And then she started texting me saying, hey, you owe me my wages. And I said, I'm not going to pay you your wages because...
You threw up all of my house, so I'm not paying him. So there's all these texts, and let's go back and forth with me saying I'm not going to pay her. And then about two and a half months later, five o'clock in the morning, my house was raided by police. Oh, no. She went to the police and said that I was forcing her to work on webcam. Backstabbing. Yeah. And they took all my computers, all my phones. They took everything. They put me in a cell for 48 hours while they searched the house. They released me on bail with all these charges. And then when they went through my phone and laptop,
Like making a video while driving and all these stupid things, not paying taxes on a yard sale, garbage, 11 new charges
And basically I'd spend a quarter million dollars on legal fees to stay out of jail. So that's kind of- - They fucking backstab you. You let them live in your house, feed them, try to get their fucking businesses going, and then they turn around and backstab you because they don't know how good they had it.
It's always how it is. They just get a wild hair up their ass. What have we learned about entitlements? Fuck women. That's what we've learned. Um, so, but you're back, you got, you got through that and you're okay now. Yeah, I got through it and everything. And that's the main reason I moved to Romania. Cause everyone goes, why did you move to Romania? And I realized through my experience of the legal system that in, in the Western legal systems, whether England, America, any of them, if a girl says something, she needs zero proof.
She needs zero evidence. All she needs to do is say it. Any bid and you have to defend yourself. You've ever interacted with. Oh, yeah. You can go to the police and say he did this. Do you have any evidence? No. No. No. And they'll fuck your life up. They will come and they will arrest you and they'll put you on bail and they will search your stuff and go through your phone and go through your personal life and find new things to charge you with. It's insanity. And I thought I can't live under this system anymore. So I had to move somewhere with common sense rules. So I moved. I had friends here. I ended up here.
It's like it's in you know in American probably England - it also matters who they're accusing like a guy like you who just looks powerful That everybody's jealous of that like this that guys in the system who are part of the system would be jealous of instant belief like anything they can do to get a woman against you there for it and
You nailed it you just nailed it because before this experience with the police I thought the police were a non partial You know entity, but it turns out they're actually just a bunch of bitter hate-filled loser dorks Because legitimately when they when they went through my phone and saw the girls and the parties and the Lambo They literally thought this motherfuckers having too much fun. Yeah, exactly. It's too much fun. He must be guilty of something Just trying to raise charges on me was unbelievable and they only need one like in an entire police station
- Will make it his obsession to fuck with you. - Sure. - And everything he can do. It's exactly that, it's too much fun. I say it all the fucking time. - Yep. - Man, I've got so much, I've got so, this is a real meeting of the minds, Sean. How did you, I wanna know about your fight career, like your first fights and how you got into that, 'cause that shit is, just the mental part of getting into the ring for the first time, or letting, like everybody says, you know, everybody's got a game plan until you get hit
The mental component of that I think is always underrated and I always want to know more about it like you you can't you can't get hit
in the ring and then so like time out time out time out i gotta think about it's just a continuing onslaught of punishments from someone who wants to kill you right and you've got to deal with they don't panic don't then don't panic and then because if you panic you're done yeah you're done that's it that's the end of your career yeah um could you talk a little about that like your first fight and your the mental aspect of this of the training that you also do like physically obviously
man and i don't think i don't think normal people fight i don't think any normal person fights if you look at the best fighters in the world they're all a bit kooky you know i guess yeah because i don't think it's a normal thing to want to do and there's reasons why it's not normal one because of the risk involved but two it's actually a very shit career path yeah like the majority of fighters make no money like it's like it's like being a model you can name four or five supermodels but the rest of them are complete nobodies and you're never going to mention them and then you're never
better than the ones we know, but because they can't pull a crowd, they don't get the chance. Cause it's all about money at the end of the day. You can't pull a crowd. It doesn't matter how good you are. So it's a real, you know, it's a real crap career path. And it's so much energy. It's an entire lifestyle you give to something, which in 99% of cases is never going to reward you.
financially at least yeah you know so i mean i started it because when i was young my father was a chess master my father was a grandmaster of chess so i was being bred and i was being raised to be a chess master so when i was young oh that's interesting yeah all i did was play chess for like six hours a day so i was a chess player and then when my my mother and father split up when i was 10 and i moved to england with my mom and i came to england and there was no chess scene in america there's chess in the schools and there's all this like sponsorship programs you can go to university
In England, there's no chess. No one cares. Wow.
So I lost my coach. So I thought, what can replace chess? And to me, fighting and chess are quite similar. It's a one on one sport. There's no luck involved. It takes a lot of effort. It's brutal one way or another. Yeah, I just I just saw the similarities. And I thought, OK, well, plus another thing about it for me is I've always thought most sports are bullshit.
You know, you put a ball in a net, who cares? - Yeah, personally I've always hated the team aspect. Like you're telling your story and the part that I identify with is the discipline at a young age. I think people, people maybe, guys in their 20s and 30s just lack this discipline that has been ingrained in some kids and not others. Like my dad raised, when I was a kid, it was sports or nothing. - Yeah, yeah.
every day, this is what you're doing, and I can't stand sports because I fucking hate team activities. Like I hate having, I hate relying on people.
uh i hate winning as a group i like singular i like singular you know i like to be my own i like to i like it to i like to reap all the rewards and i like to rely only on myself it's the same discipline it's the same level of discipline that i think uh people either live or die on uh so it's funny to hear you say that you kind of went the opposite way like you had a real
meant uh mental discipline as a child but it turned into it sounds like it turned into your fighting career as an adult yeah but to me you know it's just hours a day i have to dedicate to something and you know you you you take 100 responsibility for it and like in chess it doesn't matter what happens it doesn't matter how small the mistake but if you lose at some point you fucked up at some point in the game you made a mistake it's impossible it's impossible to play a game perfectly and fighting is the same no matter how good you are there are gaps and there are
when I was kind of thinking of something to replace it, the idea of putting a ball in a net didn't appeal to me. Whereas I thought if I learned to fight, at least I get to carry it around with me everywhere I go. There was always in your pocket.
- Yeah. Now why kickboxing? Did you start, you know, as opposed to, you know, any, I mean, you know, boxing. And MMA came later, right?
Well, that's a good question because if I could do my career again, I probably would have done boxing because I was exceptionally good at kickboxing and I never really made that much money. I mean, I was four time world champion. Yeah. And the most I ever made for a fight was like 40 grand, which is a lot. But if you're fighting twice a year.
- Yeah, no, no, no, it's a tough way to make an okay living, right?
Very tough is it still like that 40 grand for a world champ fight? God, that's yeah, so this is kickboxing because kickboxing is not boxing, you know kickboxing is The underworld kickbox is not regulated kickboxing is just for drug dealers in fucking Russia to launder money and look good in front of people Kickboxing is it's not like it's not like boxing where there's a control board and all this crap and TV rights and there's none of the money in it Yeah, so um
I googled no rules fighting. I typed no rules fighting.
I was only like, I was about 16, I remember. And this is like early days of even Google, because I'm an old man now, 33. But what come up was a gym called Storm Gym. And I went there, and it was three Bosnian men. That was it, at the whole gym. And one of them, my instructor, he said, can you fight? And I said, well, yeah, I've done a bit of boxing. And he knocked me clean asleep on my first ever session. Yeah. And it wasn't even a fight gym. It was just these three Yugoslav war vets who used to just meet up and fight every day. It wasn't even like a traditional gym.
I just started going there and um yeah I ended up I had I've had six cage fights I won four I lost one on points and one was uh I broke my hand in the first round but at the time MMA was quite new and kickboxing was quite new and I was offered two contracts one was an MMA contract one was a kickboxing contract and the kickboxing one paid more so I followed the money so I should have I could I could have gone MMA maybe but I ended up doing kickboxing for a while and then yeah that's
a bunch of other businesses. The campaign is fucking great. It's so obvious that you have this gift of pissing people off.
with everything that you do you know what i mean well he's an easy going guy yeah he's having a lot he makes it look too easy i think is part of the problem because you can tell by just his posture he's just he's just kicked back like it's like yeah like you know i mean it takes work it takes but you know you can also be kind of chill and that really has got to fire people up oh yeah yeah i think i think it's the easiest way to annoy somebody is just to be very very blase about
saying much. You can say that to people, though, it's going to piss them off. Because we all know it is. It's the kind of thing all rich people, it's kind of something I realize all people with money do. There's something very offensive rich people do. And one of them, the first thing they say is, oh, well, money isn't happiness.
It's like, you have money. - Yes it is. - Yes. - Put away then. - Yeah. - Right. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That's the first thing they do that's ultra offensive to poor people. I think it's offensive to tell people who can't pay their bills that money isn't happiness. - No shit. - And the second thing they go, oh yeah, well, you know, it's not that much money or I'm not that rich. And I just think it's very offensive and annoying. And when I was broke, when rich people I knew used to do that, it pissed me off. - Sure. - So now that I have money, people are like, Andrew, you have 10 supercars. And I'm like, oh yeah, you know, I guess, you know, but.
favorite supercar.
- It's hard to choose, man. It's like choosing your favorite woman. They're all a little bit different. It's hard to pick. They're all good. - They're all bad in different ways, I understand. - Some are more cantankerous. - Do you have any really scary fight moments? I used to box in college, just like in a parking lot, stupid stuff. Nowhere even near the level of anybody who seriously trains for it. So I love hearing about the experience in the ring from people who take it seriously.
like yourself, do you have any momentous, frightening moments or triumphant moments? Yeah, so fighting as a whole is scary. The whole idea that it doesn't matter how good you are, how many times you fight is extremely scary. That's what they all say. It's a scary thing to do, and it controls your entire mind. Because if you have a fight coming up, it's all you think about until the fight day. It controls that you're blocking off huge sections of your life when you're concerned with one thing and one thing only.
Yeah, and I've seen I've seen four people die in the ring. I've badly hurt a guy and he needed one of those big You know those big metal face cages like people get over it's not a joke especially when you're you know You go to Russia or Macedonia or Albania these places to fight they don't give a shit what happens to you? You're just circus. You're the circus aren't you? Yeah, so it's not jumping in that quick
It's scary and you know, I've got a bunch of stories
gone any other way and I met a whole bunch of dodgy characters like even my links here in Romania were made through fighting. I've been to Chechnya
And I, you know, you're in Chechnya, you're around all the gangsters. Everyone's got AK 47s and, you know, they're all doing cocaine and there's hookers everywhere. And you've just won your fight. And you kind of look around and say, I would never be here any other way. Because the one thing that bad guys like is fighters.
- Yeah. - Bad guys like being, "Oh, the champion." So like, even here, - Why do you think that is? - Why do you think that is? - Because it's a mutual image, isn't it? - Yeah. - It's a good image. I'm the big mobster and I hang around with the big, mean fighter and they just go together. - And fighting combat sports, it's the ultimate sport. It's like, really, it's like, I love boxing and they call it the sweet science. And it is because it's a beautiful fucking thing.
like when it's done well and it's also as brutal as you can get so it's just like improv comedy it's a very beautiful thing when it's done well and it can be nasty when it goes wrong it can be nasty then yeah that's basically it so i've i've i've had a whole bunch of stories and i've done some cool i'm very happy with my career but i i can tell you something i'll tell you a very quick one i was in macedonia yes for a tournament and me and my friend we were out one night and we were talking these two macedonian chicks and these little this little dude start running his mouth
who's a fighter as well, threw him over a table. So they got in a fight, threw him over a table. Anyway, we left, and before we even got up, I grabbed my guy and we got the club, I said, "Look, bro, we're in Macedonia."
We don't know who's who around here. - Can you stop fucking around? - Yeah, let's just go home. So we went home, we went to sleep. Anyway, next morning I'm having my breakfast
These two dudes come over to me and they said, "Oh, hello." I said, "Hello." He goes, "We're here to kill your friend."
I swear to God, I'm eating my breakfast. I was like... Right this way. What did they look like? The guys who came to... Like, were they big? I mean, bigger than you? Like, what kind of guys? Yeah, they were about my size. Typical Russian, kind of stocky. Exactly what you'd imagine, like, from a movie. Yeah, okay. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And I was eating my breakfast. I said, what? They said we... And they were... What was actually scary about it is how calm they were and how much knowledge they knew. They were like... Because they knew the whole situation. They go, we've seen the camera. You did not do
anything. It wasn't you, but your friend through my cousin. And we are here to kill your friend. We know you two are together. So you need to tell us his room or we're going to kill you.
- I'm eating eggs. You know, I'm just kind of like, well, I'll text him. So I- - What are you thinking at that time? Like, are you weighing your own life compared to your friends now? Like, man, I got to make some hard decisions in the next couple seconds. - Yeah, it was weird because they were so calm. And one thing you do to learn in fighting is a poker face. So I was also trying my very best to be uninterested.
Do you know what I mean? I was very much like... Sure.
oh i'll text him yeah one second sure guys i'm reasonable too yeah so i texted him kieran karen he's like what i said there's two guys here said they're here to kill you he replies lol i'm like no not lol there's these dudes you're here to kill you legit so and the owner of this tournament the organizer of this tournament was a dutch guy and i know he was i won't say his name but he was hugely man this whole tournament was he was moving cocaine from albania to holland the whole tournament falls so he was connected big time with the macedonians so when he came down by
I said to him, I went over to him and said, look, these two dudes are here to kill Kieran, because of what happened last night. And he called his Macedonian guy and his Macedonian guy came and they all sat around the table and they had this big discussion of Macedonian. In the meantime, Kieran's worked out as real and is sitting in his room, texting me every three minutes. Are they still there? Are they still there? He's going to shit himself. And I think they gave him like eight or $9,000 in their left. But yeah, that was the fight. That was my fight career. And then afterwards, Kieran was just like, oops. We went out again the same night. But I went to a whole bunch of crazy.
crazy places and crazy things like that happened. That was almost more crazy than the fight career itself. 'Cause the fight career is just a whole bunch of hard work, a whole bunch of nervous nights. - Yeah. - And then a whole bunch of violence, you know? But the stuff that goes on around it is kinda cool. - I love that it's a front for laundering money. That it's entirely, well, it's like, it's all a big scam to move money around. - Let's be honest, who gives a shit about kickboxing?
i've no i've no one i mean people aren't like lining up to everybody has so much room in their life for combat sports and boxing and ufc and wwe are always gonna uh always gonna win out over kickboxing you put wwe in that category well i mean because i wanted entertainment you're absolutely right i wanted to segue into i i don't think anything sums it up from andrew other than this this tweet uh this bunch of tweets he wrote shitting on star wars where you said like i don't
I forget how you said it, but it's like I'm gonna I don't I fuck women. I don't like Star Wars
Things started because people kept saying to me. I've never seen a song. Yeah, don't ever they're dumb Yeah, okay. I imagine you'd be dumb because why I already know about the in a in a planet on a planet far far away long time ago Yeah, but there's but there's humans is stupid. They wouldn't even cost you mom they look like you in this bullshit and there's
seen a star wars movie people say to me oh you're missing out and the point and the point of my and i always and i always reply well i'm a kickboxing world champion millionaire you're missing out i've got loads of you ain't done you i don't care about your movie um and i i tweeted that and i upset the dorks and it went viral the nerds came from yeah you really did the most dangerous fighters of all yeah uh what do you what do you think about men these days i want to talk about
- Making women fall in love with you is how you put it. I don't know, you're probably not aware with this, but there's a virgin contest in this show. I got a bunch of guys who listen to the show who are virgins and they want to lose their virginity, but they don't know how. And I've been trying to help them slowly but surely along their path to take what is rightfully theirs, what God put on this planet for them to enjoy. - Kickboxing is the answer.
- More comic books, more take, more pussy, more taking what you want. How do you approach women, both in your personal life, in your business life, although they seem kind of intertwined and-- - Yeah, they are a bit intertwined. But you know, there's a lot of things about women that everybody already knows, and there's a lot of stereotypes that are absolutely true. And women are, I believe that just as much as men are in competition with each other, women are in constant competition with each other.
off to other girls. They want a guy they can brag about. That's the basis of it. So if other girls, the more girls want you, the more girls are going to want you. And this is, it's like a spiral, isn't it? So it's super easy at the top and it's super hard at the bottom. It's a positive feedback loop. Yeah. Yeah. The more girls, like, so be interested. If we go to the club here in Romania, we go to the club, we will bring 10 girls minimum. And we will do that because we'll end up with more girls because all the other girls in the club are like,
Thanks.
Who are these guys? Yeah, like and it's just a nature of females are inquisitive and they kind of like the idea of men that are in demand This is just how it goes. So the more women you have every guy knows that when you got a girlfriend It's easy to cheat and as soon as you're single you can't find anything to fuck. It's just the way it is This is the way the world works How can how can a regular guy do that other guys can't bring in world championship belts and supercars and cam whores?
- It's not making yourself look great to her, it's making her think that she could stack you up against her friends that is even more valuable. - Exactly, that's exactly what it is. And there's a whole bunch of boring answers about, you know, improve yourself as a person, self-development, and all that crap. - Which is bullshit. - Yeah. - Yeah. I mean, but that's one side of it. But I think another side of it is you just need to be, also, you need to be uncompromising. And you need to be uncompromising in a very positive way. So, like I always say to people,
And the reason I've never been in the friend zone of my life is because I'm very clear about my intentions.
I think you're beautiful.
Oh, we're friends. No, we're not because I think you're beautiful and I want to have sex with you. So are you coming on a date with me or not?
No? Okay, goodbye. And I think that a lot of the biggest mistakes guys make is they don't believe they can be affirmative as a man without coming across as an asshole or coming across as a jerk or coming across creepy. You can be just be affirmative with who you are and be confident with who you are and be clear about your intentions and you'll be fine. And I actually have a, there's a whole bunch of guys who come to me and I try and teach them about girls and stuff and that kind of thing. And I don't really consider myself a pickup artist as such. I don't try and get as many girls as possible.
head over heels in love with me. So I kind of feel like my expertise is-- - You text them things like, "I'll buy you wings," stuff like that. So how do you get them to fall in love with you?
It's kind of like a gradual process. Yeah. So I kind of have some tests and some milestones. So wait, let me tell you this before you say it, because you can please correct me. But a guy in high school, this guy who fucked a lot of chicks in high school because he was older than everybody. And he looked like a man in high school. I don't know how this came up.
For some reason I was talking to him in high school and he was like, "Look man, I was a really young kid." He goes, "Look, you just gotta make them, stop thinking about what you want, you've gotta make them want it. Everything you do should be focused on driving them nuts, like getting that pussy going so they want it, and just getting their circuits, like getting them in the red all the time."
Um, that's what you need to do. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I agree with him. My view on it is this women are absolutely emotional. And what you'll, what I've learned is it's better for a woman to even hate you than feel nothing. Cause women live in an emotional world and they want constant drama. Look at keeping up the Kardashians and look at the shit they watch. They want constant drama and they want constant interaction and attention. So what I would always try my best to do is I'd try and make girls very, very happy. And then I'd try and piss them off as much as I
of it just made me such a entertaining individual that I was, it was very hard to replace me.
Cause they'd say, Oh, I want a normal guy. And then they get a normal guy. I'm like, this is fucking boring. This is boring. So I would always, so you can do anything you want to a woman except for her. So I would literally do a, yeah, I'd arrange dates and not turn up, or I'd accuse her of cheating with absolutely zero basis and start throwing her shit at the door for no reason. Or I'd fuck her best friend or anything, anything to just make her furiously angry because women are controlled by emotion. So if she's furiously angry at you, you are still
- Yeah. - So yeah, you know, like one way or another, and obviously there's a line, I'm not saying be a dickhead, but I'm saying you just need to understand that you need to always give a female emotion, whether a positive one or a negative one, and there's always clever and interesting ways to do it. I still do that now. So it's like, I was, one of my ex-girlfriends,
about three years ago, she's fucking smoking hot. She's on that take limited page. There's me in a Lambo and she's sitting next to me. She's got blonde hair, green eyes. And I haven't smoked her for about two and a half years. So I text her today and it's like, what do you say after two and a half years?
So my opening line was I just messaged her and said, I'm tired of you cheating on me.
And she's like, I know, I know you're talking to other men. We're supposed to be together forever. I'm tired of this. You're fucking crazy. I haven't seen you in two and a half years. You're crazy. But if I just stick to the you're a bad girl, you're cheating. It's all your fault. You're the reason we broke up. She ends up getting so annoyed and pissed off sending me these pages and pages of texts. But that's better. That's better than not messaging me at all. And before you know it, you can get fucked again because that's just how it goes.
I tried to prod 'em all the time. That was kind of my tactic, you know? - It's like a gambler, like a gambling addict. The more they dump into the machine, the more they have to dump into the machine. Like, well, I texted this guy this giant thing, and he hasn't seen it my way yet, so I'm gonna send him another 10 pages, re-explaining myself that what he needs to do is, yeah. They do love that. - And that's another thing you can do with women is you attack their morality,
Women like the idea of being, even though we live in the modern world and women, you know, there's a lot of girls who say it's cool to be sluts and stuff. The reality is a lot of girls like to see themselves as a good girl. Oh, yeah.
Everything is a guy's fault. Everything they did is something a guy tricked them some mean devil tricked them into doing Webcam so I'll just say look I thought you were right. I'll say that kind of show the time Oh, I thought you were a serious girl, but it seems like you're not the kind of girl for relationship I can't believe you cheated on me and she'll be like what the fuck I haven't seen you in two years What are you talking about? But but but but then she has to defend her morality as an individual sure
To convince me
that she didn't cheat and that, you know, even though I've just completely made it up, and I know it's just complete bullshit.
but you know it's kind of like if someone's going to sit and talk to you long enough you'll get your way she's going to keep texting me she's going to get fucked there's no other way uh there's a guy there's a guy who called in last week he's a you know we got a lot of characters who call into the show his name's matt face and he's been in the friend zone with this chick that he wants to bang who's had a boyfriend this whole time but it's some kind of like long distance uh and last week he floated the i want to be more than friends thing with her obviously didn't work out because
It was an offer you can refuse. I'll put it that way. There's nothing fun about it. I think what you're saying is, if I can put it into real life terms, non-superstar terms, if he would have said something like, how dare you lead me on...
all these months. He might have had a better shot. He might have had a better shot. Yeah, absolutely. Stick it on her. Just say, you know what? I would even do it from a different angle. I'd say something like, you know what? I think the way you act towards me is very unfair to your boyfriend. Yeah.
And she go, what do you mean? We're just friends ago now. We're not just friends. I can tell by the way you talk to me sometimes I don't think it's right. I thought you were a good person, but you know what? I can see what you're trying to do I just wanna let you know this friendships over. Yeah I'd be telling her she wants me when she doesn't I'll be messing with her head so much She'll be sitting like what the fuck this motherfucker because if you perplex them then you're interesting and
You have to be interesting. Guys are not interesting to women. You have to imagine from the second you're 15, 16, and you're hot, you have some of the most successful rich men in the world blowing up your Instagram. - There are laws to prevent them from doing it. That's how much of, yeah. - And they still try. So the point is that men, even the most interesting out there, the richest men, they're not interesting. So how do you become interesting as a man? Well, why is a video game interesting? Because there's a degree of difficulty to it. So all of my women are constantly saying, "Andrew, you're crazy."
and I'm deliberately obtusely, there's a part of me that just doesn't make sense.
And that perplexity is what keeps them interested. So if I was a guy, I would have turned around to her and said, you know what? You have a long distance boyfriend who shouldn't be hanging around with me. Nah, I don't like the way you talk. Some of the way you talk, I can tell, I think you're cheating on him. I don't like the way you do. I just accuse her of being a cheater and a bad person. Tell her she wants me when she doesn't. And then just stop texting back big conversation. Then call her at 2 a.m. and hang up quickly so she doesn't answer. And then she
at me bitch yeah i i call girls deliberately uh-huh what did you want i said i didn't call you and they'll send me they'll send me the screenshot here it is missed call that's not me thank you why would you fake that why would you fake that call to me because you want my attention that badly just just with your head so they're just like what the fuck and before you know it they just suck dick it's just kind of how it goes
What do you think about that, Sean?
You see these skills that men weren't born with. They need to hear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some men were. Because you do have to write this story in real time. Like the Kardashians, all this drama shit that women are into, they have story writers that construct the perfect roller coaster of up and down and love and hate and anger and confusion. And you've got to write one. If you want any success with women, you have to write that in real time with them. Yeah, you have to be interesting. So even like another lesson I have,
I've got cobra tape.com and not to do a plug or anything, but on my website, I have some coaching and I teach guys to get girls. So I had one guy who came to me and he says, oh, I'm struggling to get girls. And one of my rules is, I never tell girls what my job is ever.
And even now, I own a few different businesses, but all the girls who are with me have no idea how I actually make money. And the reason I don't sell my job is it's not because of the webcam thing. It's just because of the huge level of mystery it adds. And two, it gives me absolute flexibility.
So like if they come and they see I've got a little bit of money, they go, what's your job? And I say, I'll tell you when we're, if we're together a while, I'll tell you.
And they can't stand it. You know what a woman's like when you say I want to tell you something. Oh, I can't tell you They can't they have to know right away. It's crazy. Yeah, and they'll be laying in bed and they go are you a hit man? Like they start thinking you're an assassin or you're fucking Escobar and all this crazy stuff and Anybody can do that any guy I gotta go do thing. I can't I'm not gonna I can't tell you what it is He could leave the country for a while their imagination will run rampant
And they're still gonna wonder like you don't have to be a James Bond a Romanian James British James Bond over here
So I've had girls where I fuck them and I'm bored of them and it's like 10:30 whenever I say you know I'm gonna go to work work. Yeah, I'm gonna go to work
I tell you I can't tell you I've got to go to work. So you stay here
I guess the only because let's talk about money and girls quickly because please when you have loads of money you get girls and That's part true, but it's not entirely true. Yeah, the only the only thing money gives you is it gives you the spontaneity that you can Turn up on like if I have a bitch in California, I can go there or I can flyer here. Yeah, like that kind of thing. Yeah You know the shame of money is you'll see guys with a ton of money and they've got some like they've got some
You kind of gave it away too easy to this girl like you could be you could be doing that all you could be doing that regularly like you could be You know she's got you as a pet now that she's parading her around her friends like look at this kill that I've got Don't you can there's a better way than what you're doing and this is gonna end in a mess for you, but You know
Anyway, what were you going to say? Yeah, guys, yeah, guys with money need to even be more careful, especially in the West. The shit that's happened to me and stuff. And, and, and I know loads of guys with money who struggle with girls and they just get taken advantage of and getting ripped off and all this crap. So you, it doesn't help. You've got to be careful with it, but it does give you some spontaneity advantage. But besides that, girls are really just interested in what girls just want to be interested. Girls just want to have fun. If you're interesting enough, you're going to be fine with or without money. But one of my tricks I do with money, I do this all the time.
to see and I only had one night to do it so I thought they're all used to work for me see I've kind of got this thing where if I can fuck them every once in a while just keeping that little bit heartbroken I enjoy it yeah do you know what I mean they might be happy but if I like appear from their life they're always a little bit oh and you left me this is the mindset that you need to have you want to do this
- So I had three exes in London, and I'm in London for one night. So I was like, how am I gonna do this? So I booked three different hotels. I booked one at like six o'clock, one at like 10 o'clock, and then I told the other one I had to work late, and I'd get her like 11:30. Anyway, I overran, shit's getting out of control, bang bang bang. So I-- - He's like Kermit backstage at the Muppet Show trying to keep everything on schedule. - Yeah, it's kinda like that. And so I've got two tricks I use. One is I have really generic,
Videos on my phone of like me in a car parking lot just me in my car like looking at the phone And it's like a car parking lot and it doesn't make any sense. I've got those on my phone hear me out Yeah, yeah, the other the other trick is a pile of money. So what I do is all the first girl I thought she's in the hotel She thinks I'm spending the night with her. Oh, I gotta go to work. Okay, so I leave second night second girl do the same thing I'll go to work second girl starts going crazy. You always do this. You never come back. Well, and I'm obviously I'm not gonna come back
So I go to the third girl. When I wake up to go piss at like 3.30 a.m., I upload this video of me in a car park in the dark at 3.33 a.m.
It doesn't make any sense. And they're like, okay, that's weird. It's because they check their stories and shit. So I upload that. I go piss. I go back to sleep. So next morning, I finish with the girl. I go back to the other two girls to get rid of them. And obviously, I walk in. They're going crazy. Oh, you left me. You always do this. You just came on my face and walked out. I'm like, look, I was working. Fool me 12 times. I was, yeah. Fool me 12. I was like, I was working. And they're like, yeah, I saw in your story. What are you doing anyway? And here's the way to shut women up forever.
What I do is I reach into my pocket. This is James Bond. I reach in my pocket. I pull out, let's say, 20 grand. I throw it on the bed and I say, count that. I'm taking a shower.
*laughs*
and then i go take a shower and i come out and they've got it all in piles they've counted all out and between the video on the instagram and the pile of money they've assumed you've done some big mafia crazy scary thing and they shut up and they're like oh i'm sorry i just worry about you it's 20 it's 20. it's all right thanks but you can do that another girl you can cut it that's that's a move that helps you to have money you can do that as a regular guy you just load all your action figures in a bag and throw them on the bed and say sort these out sort these by year i'm
to go take a shower. Sort these by eBay price. - You see that? That's an unopened lightsaber, bitch. What do you think of that?
- Man, Andrew, I really love talking to you. Thank you for calling in.
Yeah, absolutely, bro. Yeah. Do you have any favorite? What is your, what's your best? I mean, I got two more, a couple more questions for you. What's your best, what's your best, most debauched night of sexual, of sexual deviancy? What is your favorite, what is your favorite hedonistic night that you've ever lived? You've seen, you've seen the top of the mountain. I'm sure you've got stories that will turn our dicks inside out, but what was your favorite one? So, okay.
I would only be having sex to reward the girls who made me most money.
Because what happened was the girls are working not for money. They're working to please me because they love me. So they're working for attention. But I have too many girls. So if you only have half an hour per day per girl to spend time with the girl. It's like a word problem. Was this on the SATs for scumbags? Andrew runs trains on three.
- How do you focus as much attention as possible into half an hour?
yeah yeah so so it got to the point like some days i'd legit wake up and i had to like eight girls
talking about going to work i'm not trying to brag i'm not trying to brag at all because i'm telling you it's genuinely not pleasant it's genuinely like oh man like you don't want to you kind of got because if you one but not the others the one who gets is going to tell them all oh yeah oh he didn't you he me no you have to kind of them all yeah and if one comes you're
You're a chess guy as a kid. Do you find that having more to do in sex? Is it makes it a significantly different different experience and like easier somehow? I don't know how to phrase it But having having more to do at the same time
Yeah The thing is with the cam company is this change my view on sex massively because everyone has like this dream of threesomes I fucking hate having sex in more than one girl at a time. I
It's a fuck, there's legs everywhere. Pain in the ass. Like it's more work for me. You know, back and forth. It's just work. - Too many comforters. - The idea of a threesome or a foursome is not appealing to me anymore at all. - Too many comforters. - It's just work. So like when you, to answer your question, what my night of debauchery is, my whole perspective of sex has changed. So there's been times I've had six girls in my hotel room. - That's too many. - And they're all busy. And I walk in and I just, 'cause I go out and get drunk or something, I walk in. And if I'm drunk, then my real fantasy comes out.
I don't fuck any of them.
I'm tired. That's my fantasy. Thomas walk in and say, none of you fucking even tried. That's hilarious. You're always fighting with each other. I'm tired of this shit. You know what? You lick her pussy and you lick her pussy. I'm going to fucking sleep. Go to bed.
Get them all naked and put them in bed. Snort the Adderall and go to bed, you bitch. Funny. Yeah. I hear you. I just want to eat this. I just want to eat this. I just want to eat this cheeseburger in peace. Leave me the fuck alone. I just want to watch an episode of House. All right?
- You got plenty of toys, go for it. I'm watching "House."
Yeah, okay. Wait a minute, did you have, I heard this from somewhere. Is this true? Did you have Jordan Peterson's daughter living with you?
Okay, so... - Oh, so, okay. I heard that from somewhere. I didn't know. Ugh. She wasn't living with me. She came to visit me in Romania. - Oh, okay.
All right. Do you know what's happening with him? Everyone was worried about him. I mean, everyone who listens to this show. I do know what's happening with him. So I don't want to say any more than what she said publicly. I think she's already said this publicly. So he's he's having he's he started taking an anti anxiety drug when his wife got ill and then he's really struggling to come off the drug. He's addicted to the drug and stuck him with his head. Yeah. And and I was kind of saying to Michaela because she came out to visit me and we don't have to tell the story of what happened there. Everyone can come to their own conclusions. But I was kind of like,
You know cheeseburgers
And and that's what's happened to Peterson now he can't come off these pills and he's a complete massive suicidal He's all completely fucked up. So it's like yeah, but I don't know why you start taking him in the first place Like just yeah, life gets hard and bad things happen, but you just have to have that kind of frame you deal with it and it is what it is, you know? Yeah, that's I had that opinion too like yeah, man I mean we're I feel bad that you're addicted to these things but you've been telling people how to change their lives and it's kind of fucked that This is like that because he has an education
You should deal with things in a healthy manner. And he should have the tools. And I'm not in his head. He shouldn't be telling people. I'm not in his head. This is my point. Yeah, he's a hypocrite now. And this is the thing. And this is what I was saying to her. And she was like, oh, but he's really struggling. And me and her are on a semi-argument. Because my point was, listen, there is no person alive, you, me, anyone else, who's going to enjoy a life without any kind of hardship. Everyone we love is going to die. Or we're going to die first. Like, welcome to the real world.
condition is that we're not designed to be permanently happy. I think this is one of the biggest problems with the world nowadays is that everyone has this idea that they should be happy all the time. I fucking think so too. And it's really, it's the high you get when you fucking destroy something. Like in my, in the internet line of work, when you, when you make a fool of someone on the internet for the whole internet to see, that is the high that I call happiness and life is spent in, life is spent in the valleys in between. Well, or trying to monetize the last
Do not wait for it or want it.
I mute it with liquor and drugs, but that's what I need. - As you get older, you do realize that happiness comes in, you know, nobody walks around just happy all the time. There's stress, there's all kinds of shit. - Retarded people do. - Some people, yeah, no, it comes in little bits. It comes in, and you just hope, you hope that you have the presence of mind to enjoy it when it's there. - Yeah, or not sabotage it. - And acknowledge it, or not sabotage it, right.
Exactly. There's no light without dark. There's no joy without pain. We're trying to make it permanent. You can't be happy all the time or happy doesn't mean anything. So when people message me and go, oh, I'm not happy. I say, well, who the fuck said you should be happy anyway? Yeah. You're a dickhead. You're a dickhead. I wouldn't be happy either if I was you. What's it going to do with anything? This whole idea that you should be permanently happy is false. And that's why people end up on these drugs because they – I don't understand why I'm not happy because you're not supposed to be happy all of the time. Welcome to the real world. You're a human. It's perfectly fine to get pissed off. But you should just deal with it as an adult.
And that's and that's really a big Western thing like out here in Eastern Europe and stuff. No one no one takes that crap like he the whole idea of it is just it doesn't exist at all. And when you try and explain how many people in the West are medicating themselves for basically no reason, they don't believe you. They're like, what? Why? Well, unhappy? Why? Because of their job? Well, everyone has stress at work. I'm like, yeah, I know. But, you know, it's just a different mindset. So, yeah, and he's he's now a horror story of it. Because like you said, he's supposed to have all the tools. And he started taking them and now he's now he's he's trying to slit his own wrists. So.
- What was he taking?
- I can't remember the name of the drug. It was an anti-anxiety drug. - I don't really know anti-anxiety drugs. - And this is another thing I was talking to Michaela about, because she was talking to me about all these other different, she was very, very specific with her conditions, like anxiety and this kind of disorder and that kind of anxiety disorder. And she was very, very specific. And I was telling her a story. So she, 'cause her and her father have analyzed the mind so much,
They think they understand it to such a point. And it reminded me of a story when I was a fighter, the other guy at the gym who was as good as me, he went to university to study osteopathy or something. And when he started learning a lot more about the human body, every time he'd get hurt, he'd start saying, ah, I've damaged, he'd be very specific with what he's damaged and all this shit. And I was like, bro, the old you would just get on with it. You'd get hurt and you'd just fight.
to not hurt this tendon. - It's fucking I am. - And it's like the more you analyze it,
the bigger of a pussy you become does that make sense yeah it does make sense it does make sense it's like giving the pain a personality it's like giving your hardships uh it's like creating a monster out of out of something that was uh you know just part of life well and people giving it a personality it's everybody's got a little hypochondriac in them too so if you give it you start getting real specific with things then it's it does it opens a door to you kind of almost your
and you do feel like shit. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah, I understand. - And that's my point, because she was so specific with her father and his condition, they were so specific. I was like, look, the way you're even talking about this, you're making it worse. Like, my mental conditions are, I feel good, I feel bad.
Like you don't need to dig into the bad for 20 years. Like, well, who gives a shit? You're happier than all. It's like this. And I think they made it worse for themselves by going down that route. And now he's a complete mess and they completely fucked it up. And yeah, it is what it is. But I tried to have a little bit of sympathy, but she was very unhappy with my point of view on it all. But I just tried to explain to her, look, you know, it's sitting there and self analyzing. And he took a very specific drug because of this very specific type of anxiety, blah, blah, blah. Look, look, the mess is in. So it's like this idea that if you name, like, if you
name the demon this is old idea that people have i think it's like catholic like if you name the demon it's to control them right like this idea that people i think this is either an old early catholic thing or a coptic thing where we we must name this demon to maybe it's a hebrew thing and then you control them uh it's like naming these problems probably those people are all about control aren't they dick this compulsion we have to name the fears that we have with something
- On my first ever Twitter account, the first time I ever went truly viral, 'cause I'm on my ninth account now, 'cause I've been banned so many times. But on my first ever one, Cobra Tate, where I was verified, I said, "Depression wasn't real." And it went fucking nuts. You can Google-- - People hate that! - You can Google Cobra Tate, "Depression isn't real." It's still all over the internet. And all the A-listers came after me, everyone from "Game of Thrones" came after me, all the Captain America called me a dickhead, everyone came after me.
But my point was misunderstood. My point was very simple.
Feeling depressed is real.
Being depressed is real but the idea that depression this disease that strikes from the sky no matter how perfect your life is and it gets in your brain no matter what and will destroy you I don't believe in it and and and when everyone got very offended by that and I said look just very similar to what you said about naming I said if you don't believe in ghosts you can't be haunted by a ghost if I go into a haunted house and and there's a bump in the night I'm gonna think it's wind and I'm gonna go back to sleep if I believe in ghosts I'm gonna be running around the house scared getting exorcist looking for a ghost panicking but if you
If you don't believe in ghosts, the bump in the night doesn't mean anything.
And this is my point, because I don't believe in clinical depression, when I'm sad, it never crosses my mind for a second I won't get better. Because I don't believe in it. It's also offensive. I don't get the power. It's offensive that people would try to affect your coping mechanisms for depression with their own, like, they cannot let your mechanism for dealing with mental health exist because it interferes with theirs. To me, that is the most, like, if you say depression is not really, yes it is, yes it is.
with life shut the fuck up that doesn't right why does that why does that you can go oh well i don't i don't i don't care what he says like he's not somebody i would listen to on that just let it be like it's why does it threaten you so much yeah and this is the interesting thing about it because i and this is where it came because my inbox blew up i have like 30 000 dms and uh and what happened was the reason people defend depression so vigorously is because it's their shield for
- Yeah. - And I say, no, you're depressed. - Because you're fat and lonely. - Well, look, here's the thing. Everybody's got the, everybody has,
if you know there's a problem everybody's got a responsibility to themselves to like there are no adult
victims in that way. Yeah. Like you, whatever, whatever you need to do. Except for the ones that we've tricked to fall in love with us. Right. Those are all victims. But, uh, yeah, you need to,
however your childhood was, whatever, it's your responsibility to figure that stuff out. Yeah. In whatever, you know, way that you need to do that. But it's not...
You can't use that as a shield forever. And this is the exact thing, because I was I offended the world, but I was actually trying to be I was trying to be full of I was trying to help people in my own way. Because when I was getting these DM some people and they're saying, no, depression is real. I'm depressed. And they were trying very hard to convince me. I would just reply and say, why would I adopt thinking of someone who's so miserable? But why are you trying to make me think like you seem literally miserable? Good question. I'm happy. Like, why? Why am I going to take your mental model on the world?
then maybe you should just try for two days. Just try my method. What do you have to lose? Just accept that you're going to have to get up and just pretend it ain't there and get on with life. Just try that as opposed to popping pills and sitting in your room listening to fucking suicide music. Just try it. But they wouldn't try it. And the reason a lot of people won't is because it's their identity, isn't it? It's their identity. I'm depressed. It's their identity. I mean, Waterboy, some people do that. They hang on to the, or like, this makes me, I mean, even artists and stuff like that will do,
me deep it makes me they they do they pain has a purpose oh yeah yeah it can you can definitely you can definitely fall into that yeah uh look man i don't i don't want to get too far into depression because i like thinking about you uh six hot chicks at the same time that's depressing me is it i think when i get i still think in my mind when i get to be his age i could enjoy that but i'm like i'm what six seven years older than antren i still have that thing like oh you know
get to be his age i'll be that so he's like motherfucker you're gonna be saying that when you're 80 yeah um man romania has such hot chicks too is it really like that over there yeah so so all of eastern europe it's not just romania slovakia romania ukraine yeah slovakia women women prioritize their looks above all else and and i don't think i don't even think it's a genetic thing so much because people say oh they're genetically i don't think it's that i think
high heels she goes to the gym she's a perfect manicure and she's done a full face of makeup i mean how ugly can you be no i mean like if you've got you've got fake tits you're slim you've got heels on you've got a dress on you've got manicure you've got nice long blonde hair and pair of sunglasses it's put together yeah you know so but when i go to the west i realize girls don't try they don't try at all that they don't have manicures they don't think that being pretty
- They do. And they think, oh, I don't need to be that pretty, 'cause I've got a degree in gender studies. No one cares, we're uninterested in their shit. And over here, they just understand my value as a woman comes from my beauty, and they try very, very hard to look beautiful, whereas in the West, women don't think that way so much anymore. And that's all it is, it's just an effort thing. Here, they make effort, and in the West, they really don't in comparison.
That's the difference. So if you walk through a shopping mall here, every girl will be in heels.
It was when I went to Israel it was it was on on it was incomparable to what it is in LA. Yeah, they're just they were so beautiful and slim and this is together LA we're talking about. Yeah, so I mean it's yeah, LA is it's just a crap shoot like you go to the wrong. I mean, it's different levels of varying levels of slop. Yeah, all over the city. Um, all right, man, I'm not gonna take up any more of your time. I really appreciate you calling in. If you're ever in LA, please God bring your harem into the studio. That would be that would be absolutely incredible.
And I'm gonna be in LA at the end of the year so I'll see. Oh shit, I will stalk you and hit you up like one of these women that loves you. I do want to know when you take a piss, do you put your dick over your waistband or do you put it through your fly? That's something I ask everybody.
I put it over my waistband. - God damn it, all right, that makes me the bitch on that one. And what makes you a rage? And just personally, any petty problem that you have? What's just something annoying that makes you a rage?
Yeah, that's a good question. I try, I'm kind of Zen nowadays, man. I'm trying not to get too annoyed at the world. You know, I try and live in the same state of semi-annoyance and not let it get it too much out of control. I'm pretty happy. I'm a pretty happy balanced individual. It's hard to do that when you get all the noise fucking everywhere, media, all this kind of stuff. A lot of media attention. No, just whip you up and no, no, reading the media. Yeah. It's hard to do. And that's,
In so many ways I've given up on the world, and I mean that in a positive way. Like, I've given up. Like, I'm not... If you really think that Trump is a racist,
Fine. I like I've kind of given up on it because I I'm pro Trump and I have all these opinions upset people But I've realized that they don't they're not gonna listen. No. Yeah
And it's just like I'm like I get that. Yeah, put the wall up you just gave every family in America $64,000 of new debt like who gives a fuck at this point? I kind of look at it the same way. It's like what can what can I fucking do? Let me just live my life. Yeah
And that's the thing. If you only concern yourself with things you can directly control, you stop caring about politics instantly. Because it's complete garbage. I mean, it's a complete waste of time. You can't control everything. I don't care about anything. Climate change. I don't give a fuck because I can't fix it. If I stop driving cars by myself, it ain't going to change a thing. So I'm going to drive my cars and I don't care. If everyone dies, everyone dies. It's just like, whatever. I know. And I'm like that about 99% of stuff. You use less carbon to fuck the same bitches in the same place.
- Stop climate change. - He's an environmentalist. - He's an environmentalist. You fuck them together at the same spot. Then you gotta drive her out there. - I like that. In fact, I'm going to Stockholm in a few days. I'm gonna try and find Greta for my YouTube channel. I'm sure I won't find her, but I'm gonna try. - Oh God, this could go badly. - Yeah, I'm going to Stockholm. And if I find her, I promise, I promise that's what I'm gonna tell her. I'm gonna let her know. - She's old enough to know the realities of the world. - I'll offer her a spin. I'll offer her a chance with the Harim.
but that would be a good one to have on the list. You're gonna get some emails. Yeah, well people are gonna love that one. Find that little sex doll of her if you can't find her. Oh god. Have you seen that thing? Yeah. Oh yeah. Alright. There's a- wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. There's a Greta sex doll. Yeah, somebody in- I think it was either Japan or Australia made a look-alike
sex doll of Greta Thunberg's.
- Wow.
because they got they've got a thriving uh doll brothel industry in both of those places the world
more and more every day why you gotta laugh yeah brilliant uh well thank you a lot for calling it man
Thanks brother. Wish you the best. Have a good one. Keep keep on pissing people off. Keep on having fun. I see ya. Cobra Tate. Cobra Tate.com. The character is a really likable guy. Yeah, he is. Obviously, I disagree strongly with but it's what am I gonna do jump in and what do you have to say now that you now that he's off you talking shit about no no no because we're gonna be we be fighting about the depression fighting about. Oh, I understand his I understand his point.
But...
I would guess,
I think most people have never seen real depression.
- Like real depression. It's, yeah, but they're not talking about that. We're not talking about real depression.
You understand?
He's talking about clinical depression. Well, okay. Keep going. Say your thing then. I was going to say, it's an...
- They don't, people like that, they don't even, they don't even look human. - Okay. - I don't know how else to say it.
That's a, you know, but like it doesn't,
I just take that for what it is. Oh, he's a funny guy, like boxing, all that kind of stuff. Okay, he doesn't know about that. - It's possible he meant people who are hitting him up on Twitter saying, "I'm 700 pounds and I'm depressed." - Correct. - Probably talking about that. - Yes, I agree with a lot of that.