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And we are live, what's up guys? Welcome to the Fresh Shirt Podcast, man. We haven't done one of these in a minute, but we got Joe in the house, man. We do. We were doing a one-on-one interview, obviously it's a very important situation.
We're going to get right into it, right? We can call this an emergency meeting. Yeah, there you go. Joe, welcome to the show, man. For those that might not know who you are, can you introduce yourself to the people? It's good to be back, guys. Appreciate you having me here. Joe McBride, been representing Andrew and Tristan globally across the world. Of course, here in Florida since 2023. We're litigating various matters for them in the States here and in L.A. And then, of course, we got Team UK, Team Dubai, Team Romania all working in conjunction with each other. We're winning.
anywhere you know anywhere they're accused of something and we win and anywhere we advance the ball as plaintiffs where we're suing wrongful accusers on their behalf we're doing pretty well so uh happy to be here and happy to get into it so let's pretend someone has no idea what's going on all they know is they open up the news and it says
Tate brothers arrested and awaiting extradition proceedings. What's going on exactly for the person that might have no idea what's going on? So what's going on is we're getting ready to go to trial on a defamation case in Palm Beach. That case, we've been litigating it since July of 2023. We've gotten through motions to dismiss. We've had depositions. Andrew and Tristan did their depositions. The wrongful accuser who was suing did her deposition. We have other ones scheduled and we have a trial schedule.
getting ready to go to trial. That
sort of situation was the genesis of how all the trafficking allegations began. If we win that case,
All of the allegations against Andrew and Tristan fall away. The original narrative that said that they were traffickers, that said that they were this or that, it blows up. And if that blows up, everything else unravels. So the United Kingdom is working very hard with people here in the United States. You know, the brothers got allies and they got people who hate them in government. They're working with the Tate Ops in government to politically kidnap them, get them to the United Kingdom so they can stick them in an English cell
have their day in court here because they're afraid about what's going to happen. What's important to know is that there's been a TACA warrant, which is an extradition warrant from...
Thank you.
Europe
And that warrants been live for a couple of years.
The English brought that warrant to the Romanians a couple of years ago, and the Romanians said, okay, this is legit. But there was a court order and an agreement between Romania and the United Kingdom, which went something like this. So long as the Romanian proceedings are ongoing, England will agree not to extradite.
which is fair. It gives the brothers a fair shot at the Dan court in Romania. Now, Andrew agreed and Tristan agreed. They said, Hey, listen, we want to lean into the Romanian court process. If we go to jail, then you can come and pick us up after we serve our Romanian sentence. If we, if we win and walk out, then you got 30 days to come get us. They agreed to that. So we've gone all over the world. I've been all over the world with them every once in a while. Like
So Andrew and I actually went to Turkish jail, airport jail for a day. They took him. I said, look, I'm not going to let you go alone. I'll go with you. So I did a day in Turkish jail with Andrew. And it wasn't that bad, right? So the Turks took a look at it. They said, look, we understand the situation. We understand the agreement. They let him out. And any other country he's been through, whether it's in Asia, whether it's in Europe, whether it's here or there, sometimes that happens. They take a look at the paperwork and they let him through.
and competent justice systems respect other governments. Right here, what we have is a materially disrespectful move by the United Kingdom to thwart their day in court and also take a big slap in the face of the Romanian government. They're saying to the Romanians, you know what, we don't respect you, Romania. You're Romania, you ain't shit. We're just going to...
pull the ball out of your court. We're going to make sure they don't get their day in court in the United States. And we're going to stick them in an English cell to make sure that they never see the light of day and that the allegations against them stick because they won't have a chance to prove them in Palm Beach.
So would it be fair to say, because I think, because a lot of people don't understand, the Palm Beach case, this is the woman that made the accusations that originally got them raided in April of 22.
That is correct. Right. So this is the foundation of the house of cards. This...
Woman whose civil case that you guys are going to go to trial on. So would it be fair to say that if you guys win that civil case, the House of Cards comes down, the British case gets weaker, they can't afford for that to happen. That's exactly right. The British case gets weaker. The Romanian case gets weaker. All the allegations against them get weaker because there was a woman from Florida, went to Romania, was there six days, accused them of trafficking. That's what they were originally held on. We said this is defamatory.
We sued her. We're gonna prove we're doing a good job in that case and if we win that case and it's looking pretty good house of cards collapses Gotcha because and this is girl a right girl. Ain't a story girl a from Florida when Andrew did the interview with? Yeah, yeah, okay Yeah, and we know I won't say her name. What's her name? Yeah, I won't say her name But you guys who watch me you guys know who she is. I've talked about her before um
It's crazy because this is the girl that made the accusations that they were dancing on TikTok at the house. Back in April of 22 when the raid originally happened. And that's when all of this began. And now finally she's getting sued.
And that is what I guess is prompted. Or you're going to go to trial. When are you going to go to trial with her? December, right? We have an initial schedule. We're anticipating to go realistically in the beginning of the year. 12-27. Yeah, which is not far away. Yeah, no, it's not. But that's going to get delayed now because they put him in jail. And this is a move to taint the jury pool. Look, when they arrived last year, they came to Florida because they thought Florida was safe. It's the hometown of Trump.
know why you're here. Speaks about them. You're not welcome. You're not welcome. You're not welcome. Your skin's the wrong color. Your religion's the wrong color. Your politics are wrong. You're not welcome here. And my attorney general and I are going to look into whatever measures are available to put our hooks in you and to jam you up. So the statewide prosecutor's office in Florida intervened or attempted to intervene into our civil case to delay it. They wanted to sort of become a party to the case, a watchdog, if you will. We said, look, we're not going to agree to
do is we'll delay the case and we'll give you the file.
Look at the file. Look for an indicia of criminality and get back to us. They asked for an extension. Then they got back to us and they said, you know what? No criminal case here. We knew that he was innocent and that Andrew and Tristan were innocent the entire time. So Andrew was out in the street just dogging DeSantis everywhere he went. Vegas, L.A. Here I am, Ron. Come get me, Ron. Kiss my ass, Ron. I'm an American, Ron. You don't like it. Run me through the system, Ron, because that's how innocent men behave.
have these Napoleon complexes. They're corrupt people. And they eventually got their pound of flesh this time. And it's unfortunate. But my hope is that truth will have its day in court. So we were in the courtroom. And just to be fair here, the judge was pretty unbiased and fair. And your team asks for documents just to explain why they're in jail currently, right? From the UK. Right.
Right. How can they hold them?
in jail with no hardcore evidence? Is it just extradition paper? They can hold them on or throw any evidence? So it's a good question. It's a technical one. We have a treaty, extradition treaty with the United Kingdom and certain allegations qualify people for extradition. Right. So,
There are different tests. Is the treaty valid? Do the crimes qualify? The answers are yes, these are heinous crimes. And then you get to this probable cause prong. And what we're going to do is we're going to compare our system to their system and say, hey, listen, in order for somebody to be indicted here, in order for them to find this probable cause, your accusers, your alleged victims, they have to identify themselves and name sort of the places and times where these allegations happen.
The United Kingdom is saying, we don't need to give that to you. We don't want to give that to you. We're probably not going to give that to you. There's an argument from the government where they're going to say, you're not entitled to it. The allegations are good enough. We're going to say, of course, we're entitled to it. They're American citizens. So they're trying to deny giving you guys the actual, I guess, evidence in their investigation to prop up their charges. That's what it looks like. I need to be really, really careful about what I say because there's local rules. There's bar rules. There's federal rules.
judge here who um i've only recently appeared in front of twice and uh this is her playing field and i don't want to piss her off and and hurt the bros right uh so it appears that they they have 60 days to turn over their papers if they don't turn over their papers after the 60th day then we have a very strong case for them to walk i don't think that they're going to turn their papers over and if they do it probably won't be to the 59th day in order to keep the brothers in jail because
arguing that they should be detained, and absolutely they should not be detained. And we can get into what the mechanics of that looks like, but again, the process is the punishment. In the United States of America, you have due process rights. You can't be deprived of your liberty unless you go through the process. And they haven't gone through any process yet. They're using this sort of...
this cutout in the law extradition law to lock them up because they know that they can do it. So their enemies have wielded the power of extradition proceedings masterfully here to hurt them. And we're trying to protect them. And the first thing that we're going to do on the 13th is see if we can get them out and see if they can be in house arrest or have freedom to move around Miami during dependency of the extradition proceedings, because if they don't come up with the paperwork, then they will have done 60 days in jail for no reason. So, yeah,
Let's talk about this paper. And I know you might not be able to go into full detail, so I'll just ask it broadly and you can answer however you feel.
Um,
The threshold of the paperwork, are we talking probable cause from a U.S. standard? I mean, this is a foreign court. I know they also go off of a comment like we do.
similar legal justice systems, but like
How much do they have to disclose? Do they have to disclose just enough for probable cause? Do they have to disclose significantly more, significantly less? Because I know from what I understand right now, all they turned over was a request for extradition and for them to be held, nothing else. Right. So there's a prosecutor who works for the Crown Prosecuting Service over there. And Chad, that's their equivalent of like the Department of Justice in England. And that person has an axe to grind with the brothers. They've been after the brothers for a long time.
in a history of allegations in the United Kingdom. There were some in 2009, and these women accused the brothers of doing X, Y, and Z. It was Andrew at the time. When you accuse somebody of SA allegations in the UK, they take the phone from the women. So they went into the phone. They took his too. Right, and there's nothing in his phone, and in the women's phone at that time, there was objectively what would appear to be a plot to extort the brothers. Oh, really? Yeah, so they tossed it. They let it go.
based on the new case, who is accusing them of what? We haven't been told. We just know that the prosecutor, the secretary of the foreign office who hates them and who hates Trump, and the new prime minister and the one who just went out all hate the bros and want them. So they're going to do their best to say this. Under the United Kingdom, the UK standard, this is what we're prepared to give. And we're going to say, well, that's nice, but in America we require more. More is required for probable cause showing.
if you don't,
show if you don't put up or shut up, then we're going to ask for them to be released. That's about as much as I can get into it. Because if I start talking about allegations and victims, I can run afoul the rules and I don't want to do that. But it would be fair to say we're going to request at least a probable cause standard from them.
Yes, for sure. Okay. Is their threshold lower than ours over there? At this point, yes, it appears to be so. Okay. Yeah, for sure.
Let's talk about it because you mentioned the government hating him and everything.
With the creation of the Brough Party and talking about potentially running for prime minister, was that also something that agitated the situation, I would imagine? Of course. And the United States government- No one ever talks about that for some reason. When I say they're being politically prosecuted, what are you talking about? I was like, he created a party. Yeah, a legitimate party with lots of followers. And by the way, he also has a school with over 150,000 members, and that's what they're really after him about. Yeah. They hate that school.
smoothing the, you know, owning university.com shaping and smoothing the minds of men all over the world. And certainly a significant population of men in the United Kingdom is enough to tip an election there and to tip one here as well. So they want that school. They want to crush it. They want to take it from them. And that's definitely part of the analysis here. That's the motive in addition to the money that they've spent on them to get them and to shut them up.
So,
the school,
and the political party are... So yeah, to your point about the political party, right? We have a duty here, a constitutional duty to protect political candidates. We don't jail our political candidates. And if our political candidates happen to be in a position where they can run in other countries, well, that's a good thing for America. And if they're American citizens, we protect them. Now, if these guys were running for office in North Korea, and North Korea was like, we want to extradite them, the United States would say, yeah, good luck with that. We're
becomes, is the United Kingdom still a place where we want to extradite political candidates? Do we want to extradite our citizens there? And is this really about free speech? Our argument, of course, is that this is about free speech and they're using all these heinous allegations as a cover to get them for what they're really saying. And the U.S. government should protect men and women who are free speech activists and who are political candidates for this reason. This
do as Americans and they're duty bound to help them here. I certainly hope if it gets to that, that they will. Now, forgive me if I'm wrong here, but let's say this ever did happen and went through.
Wouldn't that be precedent to also get other Americans as well?
to be extracted to the UK. For example, this would be like a case study where like, you know what, this has been done before it can happen again. Yeah, they'll set a precedent. So it's a great question. Let's analyze the situation. Andrew and Tristan go.
And we know it's for free speech. Who's next on the list? Elon Musk, for sure. Oh, yeah. Right, for sure. They don't like him. They're after him. Elon is a free speech activist. He also wants to colonize Mars. And he's got Starlink. And he's got more money than anybody in the world. So they would come after him next. And then whoever it will be after that, it'll be somebody else. If we open up the floodgates here and we make it okay for American citizens
for exercising free speech and criticizing governments anywhere, then we open up the floodgates for this to happen to anyone. Wow.
Geez. Now, the other thing also that's kind of alarming with this was, you know,
I saw a video Andrew had made where he said, look, I'd be willing to go to UK and obviously I'll go and, you know, see what's going on. But like,
They were like, oh, well, we can jail you, though, up until...
trial which is insane Where you know you can be cooperative with that but you guys can't you know guarantee any type of?
ability to fight the trial from outside of jail. And it's crazy because it's like normally they would want, you know, when they say, oh, well, we can't let you out because you're at risk or whatever. Well, how would he, because he doesn't live in the UK, so how would he be at risk to anyone in the UK? Just go back to Romania or whatever. Why is the UK being so, I guess, not cooperative with their case and wanting to work with you guys? Because it's political. They want them in jail. They want them in a jumpsuit. They want them starved, deprived. When you put somebody in solitary confinement for long periods
and men who go in just within a matter of weeks you talk to them and they're not even the same human beings imagine being there kept there for two years and then it's like now go to trial and fight this very untrial and a justice system that's you know where the fix is in so it's about breaking them down it's about humiliating them in front of the world treating them like osama bin laden and making sure that the whole world sees that if you stand up if you speak out if you're
your pro-traditional values. And if you don't bow, when we tell you to bow and kneel, when we tell you to kneel, this is what we'll do. We'll have you drawn and courted and your head put on London Bridge like they did to Braveheart, William Wallace. It's the same old country. It's the same old shit. And they haven't changed because they can't help themselves. That's what the English do.
Wow. No. Go ahead.
Yeah, no, um...
*sigh*
In your years of obviously helping the Tates,
There's always been...
winning these battles, of course, with different countries.
Why is the U.S. taking this so serious? As in, like, I guess...
Why is it more like
you know what, you can be free while investigating this case.
Why are they locked up, you think? Sure. So they know that if they...
pull the trigger on the extradition treaty that they lock them up right away. The presumption when you're trying to extradite somebody is against bail. Normally, if you're caught up in the federal system, bail is the presumption. Deprivation of your liberty is not the norm. But because extradition, the big thing is you're a flight risk, right? If we don't lock you up, you're going to leave. You're going to fly. But here's the good thing. Here's the great thing. Here's the problem for the government now, for the United Kingdom government,
government as well. Flight risk analysis is normally speculative. You have to project into the future and say, are these guys going to run? What we have here is they've been out on release in Romania for three years. And no matter what of the four corners of the earth that they're in, whether they're in Singapore, Antarctica, Alaska, LA, every month they go back to Romania and they've made all their appointments with the prosecutors and with DCOT there to check in.
they're not a flight risk. So you can't use that. You can't use that anymore because it's no, no need to speculate. There's proof. There's actual proof. Here's the proof. So then they're going to say they're dangerous. Why are they dangerous? Because the allegations are against them so bad. Okay. Let's analyze that. Do they have a criminal record? No. Um, never been convicted of a crime. Never been convicted, this, that, and the other thing. And there's a history of allegations that have been systematically disproved and that fall in right into this wheelhouse. And by the way, we haven't identified anybody in this case yet. So they have a lot of
we need to do is demonstrate to the court something that's called special circumstances. And if we can articulate and say this is truly a novel and special circumstance, you should let them out even though the presumption is unbearable.
against bail because they're using the system to hold them in, then we can get them out at least back in Miami for the pendency of the extradition proceedings and see what happens from that point going forward. Fair.
Not as fair. Yeah. Hey, guys, get your questions, and if you guys have any, FNFSuperChat.com. And would it be, because I was looking this up, um...
I was looking at this case. It's a...
Okay. Bell versus Wolfish, 441 U.S. 520-1979. Individuals detained pending judicial proceedings cannot be subjected to conditions that amount to punishment. Restrictions must be reasonable related to legitimate government.
governmental objective.
And then there's another one. This one's more specific to this case. Hendricks? Hendricks, yes, which is for extradition proceedings.
I'm sure that that might be one of the
The cases on top of others that you guys are probably going to argue. So take us through the timeline. So August 5th is when you guys are going to file the actual argument. And then the 13th is...
The hearing? Yeah. So two things I want to talk about. Yeah. We'll do the dates first. August 5th is when our papers are due. August 10th is when the opposition papers are due. That's from the government. August 13th is when we argue in court. So you brought up Hendricks and Bell versus Wolfish, right? Yes. Yes.
Yeah, it's...
Yeah, the first one.
Yeah, I know these cases, Cole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know these cases. Go ahead. So this is what we're going to talk about. Wright versus Henkel, sorry. Right. Wright versus Henkel. Okay. Oh, that's the... Right. That's the... This is right here. Right. Right? That is...
Yep. That's the old extradition 1903 case. So let's talk about Bell versus Woolfish, right? And Hendricks, that line of cases is important. What do they articulate in these Supreme Court decisions?
It's important for everybody to know that once you've been convicted of a crime, the standard that your confinement is judged by is the cruel and unusual standard under the Eighth Amendment of the United States Constitution. You can be punished.
Jail is shitty.
It's not good. Your freedom can be deprived. And there's a lot of other ugly things that happen in jail and convicts and the inmates. I hate those terms because they're dehumanizing, but that's what the system calls them routinely file motions for cruel and unusual punishment. And they're rarely granted because it's like, you know, the system knows you're a bad guy. Jail is hell deal with it. But here's the thing that's important about the cases that you brought up, Myron, those cases say this.
If you're only being detained, whether you're a pretrial detainee or if you're being detained for extradition, that means that the presumption of innocence still attaches. You're being held for a specific purpose. This is administrative and we need to produce you for court. You haven't been convicted of a crime. And if you haven't been convicted of a crime, Fifth Amendment due process clause says.
You can't be punished for a crime. So,
Let's analyze what's going on in jail right now. They've been an ad seg since they've gotten here.
And administrative segregation, solitary confinement is banned in the European Union, is banned in many countries across the world. And solitary confinement for 15 days or more under the Nelson Mandela rules, which is the international standard applied for conditions of confinement, is a human rights violation. It's torture. Solitary should never be used.
Prolonged solitary is a downright violation of somebody's human rights and basic disability.
Dignity. These guys had been in solitary the entire time.
Their human rights, their civil rights are already being violated. But this is what we mean when the process is the punishment. So...
We're going to bring up those cases, of course, to say one of the reasons why they should be let out is because...
FDC is not equipped to take care of them right now, right? Solitary confinement is not the answer. The answer is for them to be on the outside where they can meet with their council, where they can prepare for proceedings in the UK. And by the way, so they can litigate their defamation case in Florida. And our position is, listen, if after we get our day in court in Florida and they do need to be extradited, which we don't want them to be extradited. Okay, well, guess where they should go?
of the creditors. Creditor number one, United States, they're here. United States is America first. We put our guys first. They're on our soil. Get them their day in court in Palm Beach. Two, send them to Romania where they can finish their proceedings there. And then after that,
You want to talk about the UK? We could talk about the UK. Or...
Or if we lose the extradition proceeding, it's got to go before the Secretary of State. Marco Rubio could just go, you know what, this is political, I'm not going to do it, and just veto and just refuse to sign the extradition and kill it in the water right there. So we have multiple avenues of approach. First and foremost, we're in front of the judge here in Miami, and we'll see how that shakes out. If it shakes out for us, then we won't need to advance the ball that far.
sense over the pod. So to be clear, like there's been no arguments made yet to get them out, which has been like formal hearings to kind of set it up to make the arguments where the government's going to have to do it. I guess is anyone from the UK going to come and argue or is it going to just be strictly the US government running the...
I mean, it's the English. They never fight fair. They're going to duck and run. Yeah. If they show up, it'll be great, but I doubt they're going to come. Yeah, so...
So you're going to be because the prosecutor at USA is all they're doing is basically doing whatever England is telling them to do more than likely. They probably don't have the facts and first circumstances of the case, or at least not yet or fully. Can I can I recount what happened in court real quick for him? Yeah. So imagine this, right? I forgot the lady's name that was on your team.
Jackie. Jackie. Very nice lady. Very prompting up front. She's like, well, you know, we're requesting documents to just show what happened or what they're being alleged, you know, of doing. And the lady's like, um...
Yeah, so we don't have any of that.
- All we have is a piece of paper. - Oh, the prosecutor, the federal prosecutor. - Yeah, yeah, from the US government. I was just like,
Everyone went quiet and was like, "You have nothing? That's crazy, bro. Nothing to have." Yeah, because normally it would go, they send it to the Department of Justice Office of International Affairs, right? And then they're like, "Hey, I need you to hold this guy," or whatever.
And then the marshals get a warrant from a judge and they just go get it. And a lot of times they don't even know. All they know is some country wants you. So it's like, you know, the people need to know, like they have nothing in the United States, guys. This is strictly the United Kingdom. They've done nothing here in the U.S. The marshals only went to go get them because a judge signed off on a warrant to get them because of a foreign country. And then to add solitary confinement, that's inhumane, bro. Yeah. And it's kind of funny. Yeah.
The UK doesn't even do that to their people, right? I hope not. I believe they don't. Yeah. But UK got its own problems as well in jail. I mean, some of those jails are really, really bad.
So, um...
So, so, so...
So they basically cut the line. The UK is like, there was an agreement. Romania's case comes first. We're going to wait our turn.
They get to the United States, they say, "You know what? Screw that. Let's add in some charges."
Try to get them from the United States cut the line was there like and there was an agreement put in place between the UK and Romania and they decided no We're just gonna cut the line. Yeah, they decided we're gonna cut they put in writing that they were gonna wait until Romania like or yeah We have a court order and an understanding it's an agreement from from Romania So it's in writing and they still broke it. Yeah, and guess what have they you know, they have not yet brought that up So to be fair to be to be fair
ring the bell man that's insane jackie uh very wisely began to bring up some of the very real problems very obvious problems uh with this uh situation uh the judge uh said hey listen um now's not the time for that um if you want to argue that uh you can file your papers and instruct the court accordingly and we'll sort of take it under advisement uh so the other side their position
Thank you.
pretentious condescending paternalistic and unapologetic they don't give a shit about you as a human being uh you know from being in the system they say you know bring the bodies up they don't even call them humans so uh they're not going to apologize if they don't need to give us something today they're not going to give it to us today if they can wait to the last day they'll wait to the last day to do it because that's who they are to be fair you're not going
to the prosecutors who are here in this office they've been given instructions to uh litigate these extradition proceedings they have to obey their superiors and they have to doj main right and they and they have and they have they have to carry it out so uh we have no idea whether they love what they're doing whether they hate what they're doing they'll never tell us we don't have it like in my january 6 cases all these guys that and gals that persecuted my guys seethed with
them to die. We haven't gotten to that point yet. It's been very friendly. It's been very fair. They just have been professional and polite and everything. It's not their case, so it's like... It's just like, look, this is what we're doing. There's a treaty, and we're here to talk about it. So we'll see what type of ball they play as the next few weeks come. Yeah, the feeling was in the courtroom was kind of like, okay...
They give us this paper.
We locked them up. Yeah. But we're like, that's all we have. Yeah. Judge, you know, that's all. And that makes sense, because like a lot of times it's not your case, not your investigation. You just get a request from a foreign government comes from way up top, comes from DOJ Maine. They've where they at. Oh, they're in the District of Florida. Judd's District Judge signs it. Marshall will go get them. They're just like, we're just being told what to do. It's like not really, you know, so our video went viral on Instagram, went global.
Now, just for the audience real quick in the chat. The one with you and Joe? Yeah. Okay, nice. Now imagine, right? One of your friends...
It's the same scenario.
You've known her for a while.
Good person.
Everyone loves him.
And this happens to him.
How would you feel if, for example, this was your friend?
in a scenario? Would you...
"Stay guilty? Would you defend him?"
So people say, "Oh, Fresh is guilty."
Nigga, you don't know him, first of all. And secondly, it's like...
If it was your friend, what would you do?
Because, honestly, guys, like,
This is some bullshit, bro. Like, that ass. It's some bullshit. Now, on the other hand,
You have to go through the legal process, of course, but I just feel like it's just like so crazy because you get...
put into solitary confinement. There's no evidence. And it's like,
Bro, what's happening here? Give them their freedom at least.
Yeah, I mean, we can say right now, pretty conclusively, the U.S. government doesn't have any of England's evidence. They just got a document. That's what I'm saying. All they got is a document saying, hey, go get these guys and put them in jail, please. And so that we can extradite them. And look, to be unbiced, listen, if you have hardcore evidence, you know what? All right, we could argue that, but nothing's there. Yeah.
So we gotta wait 60 days for them to get something in, but I mean... - What, what, what, 'cause this is something else that's kind of throwing me off. England doesn't want to disclose the name of the, of the victims, right? - Yeah. - Could it be because they were the same victims from cases before that were dropped? - Whoo! - I thought about that. - So? - I don't want to be speculative, but in my head I'm like, why are they so reluctant to... - Possibly. - ...turn anything over, like... - This is, I don't want to get in trouble, this is why... - Okay. - But this is my answer, this is my answer.
why don't you guys look at each other and use your common sense and think is that a possibility
Yeah, that's what I think. I mean, and that's my, this is not his counsel, this is me. I genuinely think these are the same people that tried back in 2010, between 2010 and 2015, same accusers, coming back again, probably got paid off this time to do it because the last time it failed. And then, just so you guys know, the people that are investigating this are local police departments in England.
Uh,
that had open cases against them before they got dropped. So they're the ones that are running these things, reopening them all of a sudden, years after the fact. So what new evidence do you have now? Like, I don't know, like 10 years later. - Look, it's worthy to note that I've,
Never really brought up this...
little fat midget's name because I can't stand him. You know, he's clout chasing and he tries to tag me and talk to me and get the traction going online. I just ignored him. But there's this lawyer from the UK who just went on Piers Morgan the other night. His name is Matthew
he's been fundraising cases against the Tates out there and for several years. Civil litigation and he's gone on this sort of this English tour to talk about how bad the Tate brothers are and there are other NGOs and organizations that have said horrible and defamatory statements about the brothers pursuant to what this guy says and his partners
case in Florida, they're all going to be on the hook for defamation as well, because they haven't made suggestions that this could be possible. They haven't said, well, this is what they're accused of, but this is what's happened in the past. And they haven't been fair and balanced about anything. They repeatedly say on a regular basis that Andrew and Tristan are guilty of sin, that they've committed crimes, that they've done this, that they've done that. And that just doesn't
but be that as it may uh you know the liberal media and the mainstream media empowers midgets like him to get out there and pontificate about uh cases that um
you know, they're actually fundraising for. Can you imagine fundraising? This is your entire existence. Your entire existence is to raise your profile by persecuting Andrew and Tristan Tate, and you haven't been paid for it, so you're fundraising, and you're taking money from NGOs or whatever it is to make your name in order to raise your profile, even though you've never proved anything thus far. Yeah, I don't know. I believe it gives people the opportunity to, like, virtue signal. You know what I mean?
and I'm a champion for a woman and, you know, have some BS. So I just find this interesting, though, because, like,
All this began in April of '22 when they first raided the house when the girl falsely called the US Embassy saying she's being held against her will. That girl's being sued.
Fast forward four years, you guys bring the lawsuit, you guys are going to go to trial in early 2027.
Right before that trial where I'm assuming the discovery has probably been fantastic for you guys on the plaintiff's side because this girl is ridiculous.
Right before that,
UK says, "You know what, we're gonna cut the line because...
She is probably critical to the British case, because the whole house of cards comes down, and they get picked up in the process. And then obviously I'm having a political party and everything else. These are all reasons. And a school. So you got a very important civil case. You got the school. You got the bruv party.
You just put the things together and it's like, okay, that makes sense why they need these guys out here. That is exactly right. There is a system in place under which you are forced to go to college and...
Well, up until recently. Yeah. You must go to college in order to become successful. That's the rule. For sure. And when you go to college, they indoctrinate you. And the world is waking up now saying, you know what? Maybe college isn't so necessary. Andrew feeds into that with a lot of wisdom and with a lot of foresight. And their university says, hey, you can actually make money selling crypto. You can make money drop shipping. You can make money opening your own business online. Here's how to do it.
not be indoctrinated by the university system or in debt or in debt and therefore escape the matrix escape the debt and escape the slave mind and become your own small business owner your own entrepreneur and become somebody who's a millionaire and maybe a billionaire one day because you did it on your own terms and that is what they fear the most because men like that can't be controlled good point yeah um it's just it's crazy because like when you actually like
bruh party.
School.
the social media influence, you start to figure out that there's many that can't be controlled, right? Not putting out the right message. They only let you get big like that when you are controllable, right? When you look at all these different things, you're like, okay, this makes sense. Why? We gotta, you know. What scares me is the random meetings.
that people came to Andrew with offering money,
- Oh yeah. - I'll give you a way out. - The Jack Neill interview, you guys, is very good. You guys should go check that out, where he kind of-- - Do our interview. - Explains a lot of this stuff. - Yeah. - Right, obviously we're not going into a full detail here, but I do think it's important that you guys understand that there's some significant reasons why he's being persecuted like this. - Yeah, for sure. Look, I've been at the table with Andrew in various countries where we've been approached by intelligence assets from other countries, and they're very forthright about it. - Wow. - This is who we are. We'd like to work with you on this, we'd like to work with you on that.
who want what he has but Andrew's his own man Tristan's his own man they've stood in their own two feet and because they can't be controlled now this is the effort to try to control them now who else has a lot of money
Speaks out, has a big mouth, says what he wants to say, can't be controlled. Ilan Mas. Also runs for office and successfully ran for office. Trump.
Right. And what did they do to him?
Yeah.
They came for him, a bunch of sham trials, 91 charges at one, 20 over here, tried to bankrupt him. He blew trial, won things on appeal. I helped file, my team filed the amicus brief in one of his cases because of the horrible judgment against him for $400 million, $450. And the process was the punishment. They dragged him through the process. They tried to destroy his name and it just made him bigger.
"Look, you're bringing up allegations from 30, 40 years ago?" - Yeah, Jeannie Carroll. - Are you shitting me? - An episode from Law & SVU. - It's crazy. - Yo, she literally, her entire fact pattern was an episode of Law & SVU. - It's a script. - And she sold the book. A lot of people don't know this. What she did was, she was selling a book at the time. She first released a part of the book, and she put that part in where Trump allegedly did XYZ to her. It did so well, she said, "You know what?
All right. Put it in the book. Did a tour. Made a bunch of money.
She ran with it. Yeah, and she rode with it. Wasn't she the one that said that grape is um... Doesn't have to be physical. Yeah, doesn't have to be physical. Yeah, bro, what? It's crazy, bro. This woman's a nut job. Even Anderson Cooper was uncomfortable with a CNN interview with her. And then like you look at her, you look at Brett Kavanaugh, right?
who also arm
with someone who was falsely accused by this woman when he's going to become a Supreme Court justice. This whole Me Too thing is insane. It's absolutely insane. By the way, we defended Me Too...
so many times on this show. Yeah, it's just ridiculous. We need a system where if someone is falsely accusing somebody of these allegations, they should be put in jail. This article just came out recently, and actually this guy won the case. This one was in Hong Kong, I believe.
What you said?
Oh, it's gone? Yes. Oh, my God. Of course they took it off Instagram. Oh, my God. Of course they took it off. Instagram took one of my posts down the other day with Andrew. I appealed it, got it back. Yeah, they're on it. Nah, nah. I got screenshot. Huh? I got... Oh, no, no, no. I got this. All right, chat. Look, look. So this is all my story, right? All right. Here you go, Bills. Yeah, the Me Too stuff is insane, dude. It's absolutely insane. And people that say... Okay, look. You know what? Oh, thank you. Oh, you got it? Yeah, so she got put into jail, actually.
for six years.
So British woman jailed for falsely accusing banker of grape in Hong Kong. A British woman who accused a banker of rape in Hong Kong has been jailed for six years for blackmail and perverting the course of public justice. Bro, they all need to go to jail for this shirt, bro. Yeah, bro. Well, the problem is that there's no ramifications if they get caught lying. So like they'll just do it. And then like if you look at it from their perspective, if I accuse someone who's wealthy,
Like, I can get paid. I'm not going to go to jail. It's worth rolling the dice a lot of the times. Dude, they don't care. They're like demons, bro. You know, you look at Johnny Depp, right? That was a perfect example. Had he not secretly recorded her...
bro would probably be so let's talk about that yeah if
If Johnny Depp wasn't Johnny Depp and if he didn't have his, the wealth that he has, if he didn't have the ability to defend himself, everybody would have just believed the allegations. Yeah. And he would have been done for the rest of his life. But he had the ball. He lost a lot of deals. Everyone believed right in the beginning. Yeah. But he had the balls. He had the resources and he had the courage to go out there and fight it. And he won. Yeah.
And he won. So we're doing that as well. And we are also trying to pioneer what you guys are talking about. There should be criminal recourse for these types of things. As a matter of fact, when a statewide prosecutor office came to us, and I have this all documented in an email in Florida, and we said, hey, take a look at our file. We also gave them everything on girl a and said, maybe you want to take a look at this because it's criminal. It's going to ask you next. It's criminal. Right. And if somebody else were in charge over there, maybe they would have done it.
done the right thing. So, you know, we have to get a system in place. We have to get representatives in place who care enough about men and who care enough about fathers to not let their children be ripped away from them by a mere allegation, to not let them be debanked or have their wealth dragged out of them simply for getting married. And then their wife cheats on them with a personal trainer and they lose their health. They lose all their wealth and all that stuff. So systems geared
right you should say look I may disagree with Andrew's life and Tristan's words and how they live their life but this is more important because I have fathers I have sons I mean look at Marco Rubio for example secretary of state his son plays college football right here in Florida we know from what happened in USC in that case in other cases also takes as one allegation his career is over it he's in he's getting dragged through court his name is ruined for the rest of his life this is the president out of school this is the stands have kangaroo courts they don't
you got a location, get out of here. Right, that's exactly right. Nobody's safe. Men need to be protected.
Men need to be protected. The idea that men are somehow predatory because they're blown a penis with a penis and have testosterone in their body is absolutely evil.
You know what's scary? Just being here in Miami as well. You get to see how men's lives are destroyed in real time. They'll be doing fine. Business, work their whole career, got a degree. Meet one girl, it's over. Yeah, I mean, there's a business here in Miami of girls extorting. It's a thing here in Florida where girls will extort men that have money like, oh, I'll make this allegation against you. And they'll just pay because they don't want to deal with that. All right, here's $10,000. Just don't. It's a ragged. Here's a coop chat.
It's a group chat, by the way. But here's my point.
Trump has been through this multiple times. Now, I'm not saying he should do something. I'm just saying like...
Wouldn't it be good if he did something for everybody after what happened to him? Because I think that was terrible, bro. He could have been in jail for years. No, we definitely need some type of legislation to deal with this. This whole Me Too thing is like, it's starting to get very, it's fatiguing me, dude. It's disgusting, everybody. But no one wants to challenge it because no one wants to come and look like, oh, you're a grape enthusiast or a protector. But it's like, no, we need to put something in place where people deal with consequences for lying and using it to enrich themselves. Because that's what ends up happening is like...
um,
A lot of predatory women out there will target someone and say, you know what? I know it was consensual. And what they'll do is they'll use regret.
say that as grape, and then use it to get a payday. Or non-payment. But my thing is like, okay, if they did a crime, of course, they need to go to jail, it's punishment. But when they're lying like this, bro, dude, it's fucked up. It's real bad. And it's common. Very, very common. It's one of the Ten Commandments. Thou shall now bear false witness against thy neighbor. We have perjury as a part of the court process. There's consequences for it. But when you weaponize the court process, so what happens when you use the court process,
defamation law, because they don't want to...
they don't want to create a precedent where people are like, where they don't use the process, where they're afraid to use it. But on the other hand, right, if you use it to falsely litigate a case against a man and destroy the man, and he can prove it or destroy a woman for that matter, right? You should have appropriate recourse to turn around and sue. And that's certainly what we're trying to do. Look, Johnny Depp did it. Yeah. He got a judgment, right? We're in the process of doing it. The other men need to be able to stand up and do it now. Cause in the social media world that we live in, where everything is published online,
is going to just continue to grow and grow and grow and grow because of
The whole world's like this. - That Johnny Depp case was a huge wake-up call, I think, for a lot of America. It was great that it was televised the way that it was, and he won, you know, but people forget
- It came at great personal expense, right? He lost millions of dollars of opportunities. I think the only people that stuck, I think, Pirates of the Caribbean dropped him for a bit. He wasn't able to act doing that. Every sponsor dropped him except for, I think, a cologne company. So he lost a lot of money. And then I don't even know if he's recouped all the money he lost.
that he spent in defending himself. And it's good because obviously it's about principle, but a lot of the times do men have the resources to fight it? Are they going to be able to recoup the money after fighting it? Do they get the reputation back? A lot of times the accusation in and of itself, no one cares to see what the disposition was. So it's just a very unfortunate, scary time to be a guy. - And look, you may not care about Andrew or Tristan, that's fine. Well, whatever it is, that's fine. But this could be you. This could be you tomorrow,
because this can happen to anybody. Nobody is safe. I don't care how much money you got. They can do it to them.
What's going to happen to you when you put the fries in the bag? Yo, you're cut. Bro, you put the fries in the bag. You're done. Yo, it's over. They're going to put you in the bag. You thought divorce was bad? It's worse than divorce. It's bad, man. You know, so like, look, you don't have to like Andrew or Tristan personally. That's fine. You don't like to have like Trump, whatever. But what we're trying to explain to you guys is that there's a trend going on here that if we don't stop this or do something and fight back against it, it's going to be a snowball effect and it's going to destroy everybody.
This is my page on Instagram here, right? Go on my story if you know my bills. So this happened again today with someone that we know. Just go back a little bit.
Yeah, this one right here. You can pause it.
So, Ye has reached a settlement with former personal assistant Lauren Piscota. Of course. Kokusim of S-A, sorry, S-H, assault, and S-trafficking. Now, let me get this straight.
Again, you know, I'm not saying that if someone's guilty, they shouldn't be prosecuted for sure. But why are you settling if you're there for justice? Why settle? You know what I mean? Well, it depends. Justice, just the money, I mean.
That's what I'm saying, bro. It's messed up. It depends on how much wealth you have and how much you're settling for, right? So if you just, like, look, this shit ain't going to be worth it. I got contracts I don't want to lose. My Adidas contract is worth more than anything that could happen here. What does she want? $50,000, $100,000, $1 million. I'm a billionaire. Here you go. That's why it's a racket. Yeah. Because they know that men like this are inclined to just settle and make it go away. So they take advantage of the process and say, I'm just going to get something out of here. They're going to settle.
right he doesn't want to be jammed up he doesn't want to deal with all this go through discovery and makes men uh you your target if you're rich if you're powerful if you're kanye if you're or if you're trump or if you're you you or me which is why you know i got this wedding ring on i'm a one-woman guy and i i am out of that life forever because uh the risk ain't worth the reward i got a beautiful wife at home who's watching right now i love very much nice and uh you know
great things, one of the great benefits about being married to the right woman, a woman who loves you, supports you, will ride or die for you, is you don't have to worry about this shit. I'm not in the life. I'm not involved in that world. I have zero exposure. I also don't drink alcohol. Zero exposure to that as well. I got to keep secrets. If I drink too much one life, I get to talk in and hey, guess what happened in court? My career is over. I eliminate all risk at this point in my life. I'm almost 50 years old. I'm 48. Been around long enough. I've seen enough to know that the risk is just not
Thank you.
.
remember my situation? with the friggin
CCP? bro, bro it was like, alright, you know what?
I'm a touchable nigga. You know what I'm saying? Move through the city. Got the keys. You know, I'm that guy. And then kind of find out I'm not touchable. Yeah, they'll reach out and touch you. Yeah, yeah. They definitely will, bro. So it's like,
Nobody's safer. You know I got game, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's some bullshit, man. It's very unfortunate, man. And like you said before, you know, to litigate these things is gonna cost you hundreds of thousands, if not, you know, more. Way more. So it costs you way more to defend yourself.
Then it does to just be like, yo, here's the money, get out of here. And some people look at it like, oh, that's an admission of guilt. It's like, no. By the time this drags on and it's done, I've spent way more money. And time is money. And time. Opportunity. Right. And then the discovery process, things can come out that might be embarrassing. Unrelated. Yeah, unrelated, exactly. Process is the punishment. Yeah. So most guys just settle. I mean, look at Shannon Sharp. He was in a relationship with that girl for years. Bro. He tried to say, oh, he did X, Y, Z to me. He was like, you know what, man? Here's the money, get out of my face. But it was a shakedown.
you get away with this sometimes. Can I tell one more story before we get on a little bit? Yeah.
Friend of the show.
Bye, guy.
She's been here before.
Um...
How to Thriving Online Business.
I won't say what it is because too much details, but...
Man is a young lady, right? Up north, uh, dead. Miami dead.
Start dating.
You know, he moved her in.
Take care of her.
You know?
It was serious.
But she lied about a lot of things. You know, obviously, women lie. And, um...
What was important is that she learned about her age. And she knew what she was doing. From the very beginning.
She had fake ID.
Her mom vouched for her.
Everyone went along with the plan.
Damn, the mom lied? Yes. Here's the worst part.
His business...
was doing well. Remember, it's thriving,
Best time of his life. He worked his house off for years. He's finally made it.
Thank you.
She said to him, listen,
I need some money.
Where's it coming from? Like,
You're good. The food is taken care of. We go shopping. No, I need some money.
you
What do you need?
You don't know what the money she asked for? What?
A million dollars. Just for a million. And he said, why'd I give you a million? Like, don't you love me? Oh, there's no love there. Fast forward. I love your money. Fast forward. She said, if you don't give me the money, I'm gonna tell everyone that you have sex with a minor.
Oh. So. And that's in Florida, in the state of Florida, not knowing age is not a defense. It's not. So a woman can lie to you.
Say she's 21, which some of these girls look like that, and she's really 17. Age of consent in Florida is 18, and you're cooked. He went bankrupt?
He lost everything.
Or give him the money. No, no, no, no. He tried fighting it.
Now, here's the worst part.
That incident, bro, is why I nigga don't care if she's 20 or...
21,
Nigga, I'm going for 25 plus. Bro, that's scary, bro. Isn't that scary? Yeah, yeah, it's nuts. Bro, that's scary, bro. That can happen to anybody. It is scary. It's real. I'll be interested to talk to you about that offline because I represent somebody in Florida who's got that same exact back pattern. Bro, oh, by the way, there's a bunch of girls. Yeah, I've heard a lot of girls. No, no, it's a ring. It's the same one. Yeah. It's the same exact one. It is a play in Florida where they do this for a living, bro.
Multiple cause do this. Yeah.
And they may mow it all off of this shit. It's organized crime. There you go.
It's Rico.
- Yeah. - Especially if two more working together. - Yeah, they weaponize the, because there's no, like, it's important for people to know in Florida, not knowing the age is not a defense. Even if she like presented all this stuff, mom saying she's of age, move her in. - Mom's in on it. - Yeah. - You're articulating a conspiracy. - By the way, she bought a Bentley, went on vacation,
To Europe. So what did she do? She didn't even go to the cops? She just sued him civilly? Yep.
And one, they had a lawyer there waiting, bro.
- Ready to go. - Oh, it's so fucked up, bro. - So she said, give me a million or else I'm suing you. - As you did. - This is like chasing ambulances. - Wow. - Except you're chasing something else. - Wow. - Insane. Insane, yep. - And the fact that you're like, oh yeah, I have a client that that's like that, whoa. Like, so you have a client that dealt the same thing. - I very much do. - Wow. That's insane, man. All this to say,
let's give Andrew Tristan a fair chance because obviously speaking like,
this is messed up by all means possible. It is really messed up. And, um, if it was your friend, what would you do? What'd you guys do? Like, honestly, what would you do? Yeah. And I think the timing is impeccable. Like that. You got the civil case. That's about to go to trial. And then they're like, group has like, we're going to cut the line. You're like, just a coincidence. Yeah. Just coincidence. By the way, nobody wants to defend these allegations because they're very heinous allegations. I understand that part, but when you know, it's BS. It's like,
No, this is what's justice. Yeah. So...
Yeah.
Chats? Yeah, we can read some chats and then we'll close out and do the after hours. Mr. Clap Cheeks. Free Tate and most importantly, Free Diddy. This nigga, bro. Yo, bro, bro, bro, bro.
Yo, come on, man. This is the Boston Man Act. He's trolling. Well, I do think it's important people to realize, though, that Diddy was not convicted of trafficking, guys. He was convicted of only trafficking. He was being a freak. He won. He basically won.
They brought all the, because I was there for the trial.
Cassie and all the main witnesses against him that said he was human trafficking them, it was all proven to be consensual, dude. On cross-examination, Diddy's lawyers really embarrassed him. And think about what you're saying, and that was with all that evidence. Yeah. With the universal allegations against Andrew and Tristan, there's not even a damn...
Bottle of baby lotion. Yeah. Baby oil. Baby oil. No baby oil. No baby oil. Damn. Guys, the whole freak off thing or whatever, dude, I was there at the trial. It was a bunch of BS, man. Really what went down is like you got a guy who was very perverted and does strange things. But the thing they actually convicted him on was paying for male hookers to come in and have sex with Cassie. That's what they actually convicted him on. Cassie loved it. Yeah. One of her friends that she lives here in Florida, I was talking about the whole situation. She wanted it so bad.
sought out all those guys because she wanted the BBC. She set up everything. She would be the ones to pay them and call them and set up everything. And she did this for years. And that's why Diddy didn't get convicted of that. So it is important for people to realize that, look, you don't have to like Diddy, whatever, that's fine. But understand that like,
He's not a human trafficker, technically. It's what happened was he just brought these dudes in to smash his chick. And it was interstate transporter prostitutes. That is weird. That is weird. That is very weird. Where did they pick him up again? That's very weird. The prostitutes? No, did he? When he got pinched initially? Oh, they picked him up on human trafficking. Rico. What location? New York, right? I think they picked him up in Miami. Miami or New York? They arrested him in New York, but they were using, it was like L.A., Miami, but it was Southern District of New York that did the case, yeah. Yeah, New York.
Um,
But yeah, they were using all these different locations. Okay, does England want round two or what? If only the government went this hard on the Epstein list. Yeah, bro, they're strange. And yeah, like I said, guys, they tried this before already and he beat the charges. Like they took his phones and everything. This is not like new.
If there's no bill, unfortunately, what are the chances of getting the bros in the same cell so they can at least be together?
Question mark.
We'll see what we can do. I tell you if they go to England they'll probably send them to two different parts of the country. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, they're gonna do it. Yeah. I
Yeah, they'll do that, yeah.
All I know is the Trump admin better help out because the Tates have been supporting them for a long time. I agree. And they're a big reason he's president again. If anyone knows more about false accusations of Trump, is there any update on that? Fair. Right now it's a premature for the administration to get involved. If we don't, if it doesn't work out for us in the district court, we need to be respectful of that process. But say it doesn't work out there. Marco Rubio needs to certify. So that would be a question for the administration. And we will certify. That's way down the line. No, that's 60 days from now. Yeah.
Well, I mean, as in like... Well, 68 from the 18th. Yeah, so that's a month and a half from now. So if we get to that point, the bros don't go unless the administration rubber stamps it. If the administration rubber stamps it, I mean, how do you win the next election after betraying the manosphere? Just has it happened. Well, I'll say this, bro. Ricky did say in an interview that he's not being involved until proceedings are done. Well, he was playing... I saw his interview. He was definitely downplaying his influence.
will say. And when this is all said and done. As he should. With all due respect to him and Trump right now, look, we could win on the 13th and they could be out and everything could change and they could get their day in court in Florida and then be extradited to Romania. And hey, if that's what happens, that's great. But if it gets to the point where that doesn't happen and Rubio needs to make a decision, well, then that'll be an argument and an advocacy for another day. I hope he does the right thing. Because that would set a horrible precedent sending U.S. citizens over to England.
you know, for, yeah. We'll see what happens.
I know this has nothing to do with the subject matter, but I wanted to let you know that Spotify has audio books. I would like to see why women deserve less on a catalog other than that for the taste. I'll talk with Brett about that. And we need to give you guys an audio version of the book as well. So anything else? No, that's it. All right, cool. I guess, Joe, what could audience do to help Andrew and Tristan at this point? They want to help out. Maybe they could show up for one of the hearings,
do yeah so three things number one uh don't be afraid to speak about this uh at your dinner table with your friends at work with your friends online uh the constitution applies to everyone or applies to no one so speak out against what's going on because it's wrong number two we have our bail hearing on the 14th and we would love to see people come out and help us so that'd be right 14 not the 13th oh sorry the 13th thank you very much the next day would be no good yeah so
There's a crowd right there formulating. We had about 15 people out there today on the corner of Northeast First and Northeast Fifth Street. That's where the brothers conceived from their cell. But on the day of the hearing, come out and exercise your First Amendment right to protest injustice and stand with the brothers in front of the court. And I'll tell you guys right now, here's the announcement.
August 13th, 11 a.m., we will be out there. I'll be out there with the fucking megaphone. We're going to make sure that we get justice for the bros, and hopefully we get a favorable outcome to the hearing. So I will be out there 11 a.m., fresh. All of you guys come out. Come join us, man. August 13th, 11 a.m., we'll be out there in front of the courthouse. The hearing's at 1, so we'll be out there. 11 a.m. Yeah, we'll be out there at 11, but the hearing's at 1 p.m., right? Yes, sir. Yeah, so we'll be out there beforehand. Yep.
your calendars. Guys will be out there. You guys ask me, yo, are you going to do something? You guys going to be out there?
um yes i will be out there and remember this is a fight for free speech yeah more than anything else yeah and just last thing with regard to free speech there's a lot of people making videos online chopping up clips you know making pro take videos continue to do that there are two uh muslim guys out there two young muslim brothers today i met them they had the video where they filmed andrew in the in the in the window the other day that's gone viral you know uh anybody who's participating in that stuff we really really appreciate it helps and uh you know dominate
algorithms because we're fighting suppression yeah no for sure so yeah guys august 13th 11 a.m market counters we're gonna be down there downtown miami at the federal courthouse uh the hearing's gonna be at one but we all will be out there rallying uh two hours beforehand so i'll be out there let's get hundreds hundreds of people out there
You guys asked me, "Yo, were you guys gonna do something?" There you go, there's your day. August 13th, 11 a.m. - All right. - Joe, where can people find you, if anything? Obviously, you're a fantastic lawyer.
I know you're very busy right now. People might not be able to retain you, but they want to. The easiest way to find me on social media is at McBrideLawNYC across all social media platforms. McBrideLawNYC.com, my email address is there. The Tate Legal address, we're taking emails there, tips and all that stuff, people who want to help in any way that they can. We put out, one of the other affiliates put out an email address for people to write, Andrew and Tristan in jail.
letters are going to them through our own process. So show your support. I am McBride Law NYC across all social media platforms. Please like and follow. And a couple months ago I started the Judgment Day podcast on YouTube. That's a slow drip on YouTube as you know. But we're talking about some good stuff there and right now we're focused on the brothers for sure. Good. Also one last thing. What shouldn't people do right now that would actually hurt the case? Because
You know what they should do? What shouldn't they do in this case? They shouldn't call for violence. Yes. They should be real thoughtful and considerate about how they talk about the current judge, no matter what the situation is, or the prosecutors. We don't want... Sometimes in earlier cases, they have accused Andrew and Tristan's followers of intimidation tactics. So we don't want that. What we want is a meaningful gathering online and in front of the courthouse
or First Amendment rights. You can come with a bullhorn. You can come with a sign. You can be as loud as you want. But if counter-protesters show up or people try to bait you online, just don't feed into the bait. People try to drag you into the mud. Don't do that stuff. Make it sophisticated. Cloak yourself on the First Amendment. Don't break any laws. Don't insult anybody. Do the right thing. Support us the right way. Pray for us, and we will appreciate it. All right. Awesome. All right, guys. We'll be back with some lovely ladies here in a little bit. Peace. Peace.
I ran, I ran so far away. I just ran, I ran all night and day. I couldn't get away.