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The girl who's doing OnlyFans, these men are not going to come to your funeral. Because of the common cold, you're allowed to leave your house, for example, we're going to put you out of business and they wreck you. Whether you're taking money or you're accepting gifts, it's like prostitution. The same women who think empowerment is showing my ass and breasts, getting a Chanel bag and holding a champagne glass on a private jet. I'm empowerment. That's not empowering. For me, that is prostitution, like you say. Have you ever seen an issue with him? I want to know. As a woman, now you're on the panel. This is going to go on. Go on, tell them what I'm horrible. You're going to both have the opportunity.
- You're turning women into thinking that freedom comes from expression of sexual liberation. But that only makes you a commodity for men. They think that the world should think the way they think. It's no different to racism. - Let's have your opinions on this man. - Yay! How are you? - How's your good one? - It's a pleasure. This is a first for me, having two ladies sit in this podcast room. I'm new to this. I usually have MMA fighters, boxers.
Andrew Tate, personal trainers, but
Why this is important for me to have you two ladies here, purely because I think
It's about time women also have a platform. And they do, I think.
in life, but I don't think they choose to wanna talk. I think they shy away, maybe peer pressure, maybe they say the wrong thing. And I think society in a way now outlaws that, where women,
are afraid to say, well we agree with the old ways of life or whatever it may be. So, in an easier way, I'm not here to do introductions, I'm not as a...
educated as some of you here so I want to introduce just to my followers and viewers
your names and what you do for them. So first let's start with Lubna over here. Please explain to us, my other guests, what you do and what you're known for in Dubai. So I'm a business journalist. I think I'm known for pissing off a lot of corporates and businesses. So I do a lot of investigative journalism. I have my own new magazine now. I worked at Arabian Business for about seven years.
And now I just launched my own magazine, Frankly Magazine. And we have our weekly podcast behind
closed doors.
Actually a very good podcast. I was a guest on there little under a month ago. It was superb. It's gonna you gotta stay tuned We're gonna post that before
this comes out and we'll put all the links of both the ladies' socials and everything in the bio. So, Lulbana, why do you piss people off? In what way? What do you mean by that? As in? Well, I just do a lot of investigative journalism and I'm also just very opinionated. So, I guess I call businesses out when they do something wrong. And we were just talking about a really interesting topic the other day. This...
a Saudi company put out an ad for Emiratis,
to hire them as sandwich makers.
Oh wow. So obviously the Emirati community got very pissed off about that. And it started a huge debate. So I wrote
story and then it even went to the authorities and the authorities opened
an investigation into
company.
Wow. Right, so everyone close the gym today because Lubna might see something she doesn't like and I might be shut down. Sadia, over to you. Can you just introduce yourself to us and Lubna herself? Just to be honest, guys, this is fresh. They don't know each other. We've not rehearsed. There's no questions and that's how I want to do it just for you guys. So it's real. So please.
started a year or two ago that I started doing more therapy online and so now I kind of just do a lot of couples counseling more just therapy in general and I kind of do a lot of stuff on social media just kind of trying to normalize therapy for people who wouldn't normally be open to therapy I know you don't really like the idea we're going to talk about this you don't really love the idea of therapy but the goal is to kind of make people who wouldn't normally go for therapy to kind of be a little bit more open to the idea if I make it in little snippets that are slightly more relatable
do on social media and on YouTube and stuff like that.
- That's interesting, 'cause I see you on social media a lot. - Yeah. - And I think social media is a key. I was speaking to Lubna before on her podcast,
like she has sort of has a great message and I think
I'm a father of two girls, as you know, and I said,
There's no...
role models or women, I can see who they aspire to be, who I'd like them to aspire to be. No intellects, no
I mean...
- Okay, you've got- - They're too busy being influencers, I think. - Influencers, or getting likes and views, or sorry to say, shaking ass or OnlyFans. - Yeah. Yeah. - You're free to do what you want, no problem, but-
Who can girls aspire to? So when people get on the whole train, oh, you've got these Andrew Tates or you've got these Trumps or whatever, or Vladimir Putin's, but
I mean...
It's better than drug dealers. It's better than people used to worship. You watch Narcos. We love it, but...
People are worshipping Pablo Escobar. I mean, so you don't mind that but you want to...
go against the guys speaking about politics or strengthening men. But I think one of my motivations for going on social media, I just got so bored of seeing beautiful women, absolutely stunning women, but not even knowing what they sound like. I didn't have a clue what they think, what they might be thinking about any issue. So it kind of made women a bit dehumanized. I have no idea what women are thinking. I just know what they're looking like. So I thought, let me try a way of introducing the idea that women do have opinions. Women are opinionated. They are intelligent and you can have conversations with them rather than just staring at them.
push women away from that, even though I can see the alert. I can see why women go down that route, because there's so much money to be made, but it's just not sustainable. - But then you can't be mad at the men, right? For judging these women, because you are dehumanizing yourself.
And I just feel we've just become really champions of victimizing ourselves. You know what I mean? I truly, yeah, I totally agree with that. I mean,
Like you said,
A lot of women will say, "Oh,
he's doing that, he's a misogynist, or she's portraying this, but then do something about it. Let's speak. Why do you think people, women or influencers are afraid to say what they feel like? I know you're not, like that's hence why we touch base because of,
As people know, I brought Andrew Tate into the UAE a few months back to do a talk. It wasn't cancelled as per se. We had made a decision not to do the talk purely of the respect of the country.
I didn't want the Western media to say, oh, a misogynist in a country which promotes this and that. So I thought as a respect to the country, which has done so good for me, let's delay and let's warm him to the people. But look, when it was the only people who
She wrote an article in Franklin Magazine, a very good article. She's reached out since day one and it's not whether she supports or not, she's about
letting people speak the truth and having a say and also
she sees this whole
kind of like agenda in a way. I mean, what's your view on that whole scenario and what was going on with the Tate train?
I think first of all the problem with a lot of Arab women, I'm going to talk about Arab women
first and foremost. They're really trying to have this Western kind of lifestyle. You know what I mean? They see it in the movies and I understand because you're consuming it all the time. Music videos, Netflix, the
that
they've become really confused.
because they're like, well, I want to have a good husband. I want to get married. I want to have a family. But then
You're out in the club, you're posting,
you know, thirst traps, whatever, bikini shots on,
Nobody's gonna take you seriously if you are doing it. So I feel at the same time,
you know, they're going away from their traditions, their values, their family, and focusing on things that
really don't matter in the long run. You know what I mean? You can go to the club,
you can have fun, but what is it actually doing? It's actually doing more damage to you than goods. You know what I mean? So I think we really have a generation of very confused girls.
I didn't have my freedom for so long. We didn't have rights for so long. So now I just want to do anything and everything. There's no limit because the men were doing it. So now we have to do it, too.
And we don't really have to do it because it's doing
more damage to us. Like if I post a bikini picture of myself on Instagram, who's really enjoying this bikini picture? Am I going to be like, I feel so good about my well, if you feel good about yourself, you don't need to post it for old creeps to be looking at your bikini pictures, you know what I mean?
So I just feel like they're confused overall, and they're focusing a lot on looks
and not doing anything with their lives. Influencers, influencers, influencers. Yeah, they've indoctrinated women and they've done it really smart. They've indoctrinated women into thinking that freedom comes from expression of
sexual liberation but that only makes you a commodity for men that you're actually becoming more oppressed in the process because if i'm there making a living out of my body essentially my consumers are men i have to meet a man's standard right now i don't make or never inshallah never but i don't make a living for my body so therefore i have the freedom to look how i want to look but if i had an only fans or if i was out posting thirst traps i would have to bear in mind a man's
have to think what do men like and i'd have to cater to that so this freedom this illusion of freedom is actually just making you far more oppressed to male dominance and you become a product of male preferences and it's more embarrassing than anything it's the opposite of liberating and what i always say to people who kind of suggest that the east is oppressed and stuff and i said but measured life satisfaction who's happier the girl that's got an only fan or doing porn or the woman who's living in kashmir where i'm from with the kids and family and has
only fans these men are not going to come to your funeral no one's gonna care whereas that woman who is looking after her children she's got a legacy and there's nothing more beautiful than that and you're telling me my cultures oppress them when I find your culture humiliating and so that's where my kind of anti-feminism came from because I was just
constantly meeting being told that i'm oppressed when i could not feel more liberated when i don't
post like that and I don't live that lifestyle and I don't drink and I don't previously like date or anything like that. So I was just tired of being told that I'm oppressed when I feel far more liberated than these women who are genuinely oppressed through the idea of catering to men.
yeah a hundred percent i completely agree yeah i mean i think what what's worrying is like you say i see ladies
much at a maturer age, struggling to find men, and vice versa. And I think the whole family kind of concept of YF,
husband, kids, you know, working, the white picket fence,
the trips to Disneyland or IMG World in Dubai, is seen as, oh, they're trying to put this stereotype and win, oh, you're going to be the slave to the man. He says this, he's dominant alpha. Yeah.
I mean through the thousands of years we've lived inside that's been the way and look how we've
we've survived now,
It seems like, OK, it's 2022. This is a new agenda. Let's try it. Don't you think it's a bit risky? I mean,
I have female friends I know come to the gym and really good ladies and they're struggling to find men because the men are chasing, like you say, these thirst traps or the trash because it's easy.
Here's a gift, no strings attached.
here here's a Chanel bag do what I want when I want I'm going to be completely honest
You know, whether you're taking money or you're accepting gifts, it's like prostitution. Let's just say how it is. I totally agree. I totally agree. Just own it. But what I would say is I do have to hold the men a bit accountable for this as well. And the reason I say this is 10, 20 years ago, a woman would know that if she is too loose and she's too out there, men were going to lose interest. But now if I posted provocative pictures, I'd have far more offers and far more attention.
that actually is well behaved gets nothing so you can see why young vulnerable girls are thinking the route to a successful man is through this behavior I will disagree being around men and either I'm a Muslim man and a lot of the men how they behave I hate I despise also it's trashy it's a two-way thing running to clubs drinking spending some a lot of money on table just have women poses it's cringe yeah but these men what you see
and unfortunately a lot of the guys will be listening, they see that as a fun,
They have their fun, they use these women, abuse them, give the gifts.
behind their parents back, for example, rich Arabs or rich certain guys here. But when it comes to marrying, they'll go to their mother or they'll go for the, which I hate, the virgin, the good girl. Which also annoys me. If you're not a man, as a man, a virgin, or you're not a chasted man, as we say in the Quran,
you don't deserve to be with a woman. Why should you be running around being dirty? And they go, I want that girl in the village, a beautiful girl from Syria or Jordan, bring her, and that poor girl's going to suffer. She's at home. So it is a two-way thing, but these girls are used, and they should know. It's just for fun. But they accept it in a way, because I think they want the fast track,
No one wants to work McDonald's hard or Nando's or be a PA and work herself up for a small site. They want that quick, I want to sit on the private jet with that,
wine glass, that pick, what everyone wants, or I want to be in the Maldives.
they're asking for it in a way
Yes, I feel sorry for those women who are the innocent good girls as well. But I also feel sorry for guys who are looking for a good wife now.
because
it's very hard to find them very few but there's no motivation to be that good girl now because now you're going to think i'm that good girl that gets with the guy but he's still going to be spending money on the hoe that he met on instagram so there's when men are investing in these men back in the day they would use that girl but never speak to again but now they still invest in her they whether it's bags whether it's shoes whether it's flying them out when a woman sees that that woman is getting an investment from you it lowers the motivation for women to want to be that
mindful as well where they are placing their investment because that's going to determine female motivation but sari i'm sorry i i kind of disagree with you because we're still going back to
"Oh, it's the men, it's the men, it's the men."
it's these women that are offering that to the men.
Because there's a demand for it. Of course there's a demand, but it doesn't mean that you need to do that and screw over the rest of the women. You know what I mean? Women are today getting really pissed off. Like...
you know, these influencers, so-called influencers, are everywhere. So cool. Sorry, like I'm brutally honest, but I've got to be.
And that's why the good girl, yeah, sure. I mean, why should...
A young girl right now strive to become, let's say, an engineer and get paid 5000 dirhams a month, for example, whereas an influencer gets paid whatever 200k.
for whatever, one day or whatever. You know what I mean? So I understand. But again, it's the women.
Like these are the female influencers so
stop doing that if all the influencers stop posting all these bikini traps i think that
the man would...
start having to work harder for it not think that if the men were not following these girls and paying these girls they would be no motivation to post like that it's a two-way thing isn't it but at the same time what she's saying is the women it's like
For example,
I think.
Luckily it's banned here. Like drugs. If you keep feeding the crack in the society, in the ghetto, the more addiction is going to come. Hold that, let them go through the rehab, then it's going to go. So you'll keep pushing this agenda off. But why did you not give the drugs if there was no consumers?
I'm going to be a drug dealer in Dubai. There's no consumers in Dubai. Yeah, but you can start an addiction from anything.
You literally can start, and it's one of the natural
instincts of a man. Like everyone has their build up. The woman is more procreational, loving, motherly. It's a natural instinct. You can say all you want about the movement of LGBTQ, but the woman is born with certain instincts. A kid falls over, you probably go, oh, come here. You'll have that touch. Even with my daughters, you meet them. You'd have a different touch to my friends go, hello. It's like a ball. It's just the way we are. Men like to go hunting.
protect, she's mine, she's my wife, she's my girlfriend, don't harm. And the woman's more loving the university. So in a way you're feeling it, but I think
Do you not think, Lopna, in a way,
I mean, these girls fall into this at a young teenage age because who else do they see as
like as soon as they get these phones now this is a new generation not like we were born it's different we never had these so
straight on Instagram.
Cardi B Kim K whatever so they think that is normal that is good to say in a way they kind of suck it's a vicious cycle I think the thing is it's really easy to be judgmental when you come from a great family in a great home But say if I was a 15 year old girl who's been abused doesn't have much money doesn't have anything like that I'm so vulnerable and that vulnerability can be easily exploited by male attention and male investment now if we removed male
all women's fault or all men's fault i'm not trying to blame the men but it's a societal issue there's a hyper sexualized society men including women including everything is so sexualized women are learning that's a currency and when we have opinions we have to think about it from the lens of a really vulnerable individual and that vulnerable girl that doesn't have a father figure doesn't have money doesn't know where she's going to eat the next day and she knows that i can either go to university and get nothing or i can post on instagram and a guy will probably send me a plane
I agree, who have been abused. And that's unfortunate.
But I'm saying now, I'm seeing it in the Middle East, I'm seeing it
in regions where they've got fathers, mothers, good families, Muslim, Christian, Coptic, whatever backgrounds, very educated. I know the fathers were, I see these very well educated. They've got drivers. You know, we've been here for, I've been here for 15 years. You've been born and raised here. You'll be noticing these things. My point is...
I think women responsibility also
to have more women like yourselves, like, I was speaking to Lubman before, you need more of a platform. Whether they're trying to hold you back for a reason, maybe that's the case, but
My two daughters are three and a half. I'm scared. Who are they gonna look up to? Yeah, I think it's all about pride right? Vulnerable or not.
You have so many women in Palestine who are so poor, but you know, they would never do the things that girls do here. It's all about having pride and dignity.
It's really about that. You know what I mean? It's a character thing, I think. But I do agree that we... I think it's a culture thing more because that same woman, if she grew up in a different country, whether it's like Morocco or something, they do turn to that quite easily with the same religious backgrounds because it's a cultural influence. I think we're overestimating the individual and underestimating environment because even since I've been in Dubai, oh, I don't know if I should say, but I have noticed that there'll be girls that are well-educated, good jobs and so on and so forth, and they'll be doing everything themselves.
certain different types of background with no job no nothing and a guy is paying for her rent in the address what makes sense to a woman who's just trying to make it and so if men withdraw their investment from these types of women there'll be more motivation so it needs to be a two-way thing but that's never gonna happen you know like i i agree with you but that's never gonna happen let let's face it you know and it's not gonna change no i'm sorry i have women uh for history have
Thank you.
this spike of
being a housewife, being a wife, doing this, ah, your control, he's a, he's a,
It's domestic abuse, you're locked up. It's like this agenda, you shouldn't be that. And I've noticed it's in the last six or seven years, really drastically, this
feminism's
I'm for feminism, as in women work, women being strong, women having a say, but to a limit as well as men should. But there's this new movement, this woke feminism. We don't need men, this, that. It's just gone sick, woke. And then it's like... It's drifting towards LGBT. It is drifting towards LGBT stance. And also, I noticed it a lot more during...
during this World Cup announcement,
the West's stance on what they think Arabs are in the Middle East. And it was highlighted in a crazy way. Well, it's just psychological colonialism. They think that the world should think the way they think. It's no different to racism. They simply have a set of morals. And if you don't abide by them, you're barbaric and you're not progressive. And they are happy to cancel out entire continents. The whole of Africa is barbaric, the whole of Asia is barbaric. Why? Because you decide the moral. And that's just horrendous.
by the reaction to Qatar and the LGBT. I was so deeply insulted and I couldn't understand how
unbelievably racist it was the idea that white people determine what is progressive and if they if they're not on spot aside we are just barbaric I I anyone that agrees with that stance is no it's just a racist there's no two ways about it my point back into that is a I feel we were guess was going live so
I got overexcited, didn't I? You caught me all excited. Hi! Now you can go into this conversation more now. So I didn't want to tell them this is purely unplanned. Yeah, we were actually supposed to meet today, but we couldn't get it all sorted. But we made it in the end. Praise be to God. We got it. That's right. We got it. Faith. We're all together. As you walked in, we were just discussing how women...
tend to become OnlyFans, they push this agenda rather than the mother, the wife, the nice housewife or a woman to become an engineer. Lugnall was saying, I believe truly it's women's fault. They blame men, but women are giving them in.
They're making it easy on them. Can I say something? I really have a message to all the young girls out there. Okay. It's not about let's not do the blame game because it's not going to do anything for anyone. It's
you've got the power okay this is your life you've got the power my mother always told me that the man is the head and the woman is the neck you can be smart you can be educated don't waste your time don't take away your power by just going on instagram being an influencer not doing anything with your life and don't play the victim be nobody's victim
You know what I mean? That's yeah.
That's my thought. And I was a bit more, it's also the men's fault, because they invest in these girls. It's always the men's fault, isn't it? No, no, voila. Voila. Voila. Doesn't mean it's the old truth. It's a societal issue. If I'm a girl, and if I'm a vulnerable 15-year-old girl with no money, and I can either go to school and get a long education, or there's a guy that's going to pay for my flights and my rent if I just post a thirst trap, you're speaking to vulnerable people, not just educated people in society. Yes, yes, but you have a choice.
Do you die screaming like a little girl or do you die with dignity? Can I just intercept with one thing? You made a good point about five minutes back. You did say you go to like...
Jordan, Israel, Afghanistan or India or some religion.
The women are poor. They have nothing. Maybe no father's been killed. You don't see them act that way. But they have a different form of...
you know that's that's a like they marry even if a guy's 20 years older than him he's got they'll marry into him and she's 15 years old because they're in survival mode so i think what we're neglecting is if we if men stop investing in these girls these only fans girls and start investing in the good girls there's more motivation to be good but if i was a 14 year old in this day and age i'd be like i'm just gonna work out and get a bvl and get a shortcut it's it's valid it's a good point it's what it but society society society's degenerate it's not men and women
It depends on what part of the world, of course, as well. But especially in the Western world, there are such benefits for degeneracy. And there's no stigma against it. There's none of the stigma. Even the things you're discussing and talking about, I agree with you completely. But a lot of these girls don't feel any shame.
They don't feel any ounce of shame. And it's a job. It's no different to a job. We've normalized it to the point where it just feels like a job for these women. And I think that when I was saying to them when I was younger and before, if you were known in my culture, Pakistan, you know, you grew up in Luton, you know.
If I even walked into a restaurant with a boy, it would be like, oh, my God, she's such a slag, like straight away, I would get a label and I wouldn't be able to get married. But now these girls are getting married to rappers. They're having kids with rappers. A stripper is getting married.
for young women when men are dropping their standards in terms of promiscuity. They don't mind a promiscuous woman anymore. I don't think men are ever going to stop wanting to see bikini pictures. You know what I mean? It's not going to change. That's why I'm saying it's up to us. Like I'm saying we really need to make the effort because we are the mothers.
you know what I mean? I just feel like we're taking away from our power and
I agree with you on what you're saying because yes, a lot of girls don't have opportunities, X and Y. That's why I think it's all about education. You know, you find a lot of wrong things going on in society.
mostly in the poor areas as well so it is really all about education
I think. But I do think that's a privilege. I think the term is like Andrew's mentioned before on podcast, godless.
Godless society. There's a huge split. What we're discussing here is not universal across the planet, right?
The things we're discussing here and the idea of women
like you're saying, having a reputation and promiscuity being frowned upon. All those things make perfect sense here. The idea of a woman sticking to education and not getting a bad reputation and
working hard that makes sense here but in Miami it's God it's godless it's completely the godless city if I don't believe in God praise be to God I do but if I didn't have the idea that God's watching me what motivation as a young girl with a great body and great look would I have to go the long route to getting success when there's a man willing to pay me two three grand just to a feet put you pick I think you know so why don't we address the men and not being are we all gonna be sheep
Like for example, a lot of people say he has money, he has it all. Why would you become Muslim when you have everything?
Why would he want to limit himself in a way?
So surely God's given us brains.
or ways to think what is life about? What's the purpose? It's not just God watching. But it's not just God watching. I'm going to go to hell. You know what I mean? I think it goes beyond.
that I mean you you still have a brain God created the brain you you should still have principles without that but I think even when it comes to yes education is a privilege but nowadays the real influence is on social media and any kid in Gaza there's there's an amazing rapper in Gaza
God bless him like he's on social media he's an influencer you know what I mean even if a kid and has access to social media then
we can have influence. That's why we need more
women role models. Yeah, definitely need that. And then the influencers will also become less and less because girls will see, well, you know what? I do have another chance. I do have another option. Yeah.
I think the broader question is...
I'd like to ask you two very intelligent ladies,
Why do you think society is trying to program women to act this way? Because I believe society is trying to, especially in the West, it's trying very hard. We're talking about the advantages of a girl doing OnlyFans, for example. Yes, her life can improve.
But the broader question is why is all the culture
all of society, the Matrix as a whole, trying to destroy the baseline morality of humans, men and women, because they're trying to convince men not to be men. Everything that was traditionally masculine, everything I've said has got me canceled. They tried to ruin my life for saying a man should be a man. And if you say a woman should be a woman and she should protect herself and protect her access to herself and she should
not allow men to just view her naked, etc., then you're somehow demonized. And they want to put Cardi B in place instead, where she's saying that everything that a woman can get naked and that's fantastic and anyone who disagrees with it is
Is it slut shaming? Is that called a thing? So why is society doing this?
to men and women? That's the real question. But I think that if you were breaking down the home, the best and quickest way to do that is attacking the woman. And there's more money in
lonely sad women we consume everything so if I get to a certain age I'm not married I'm gonna be more likely to be on prescription drugs I'm gonna be more likely to attend to surgery I'm gonna be more likely to just indulge whereas when you have a purpose those things all take a back burner so that's why I think it's completely designed to make more money and to destroy the home and make people dependent on then your God becomes social media when you don't have a God and we don't have a stable home your God becomes society the laws determine your
And the quicker they can get you to believe that God doesn't exist and the law is your source of morality, the quicker they can control you.
I think there's definitely an agenda for sure. Yeah. Absolutely, 100%. But I think the only way to fight it is
to have discipline.
to not follow like
Last year I made a decision. I went on my Instagram. I was like, okay, I myself am following some influencers. So I was like unfollow, unfollow, unfollow. Just be more aware of your lifestyle and your surroundings and your friends and what you're consuming on Netflix.
You know what I mean? - Do you guys follow girls on Instagram?
No, they fixed that for me. By deleting me from the platform. He only has my space. Yeah, my space.com. Honestly, I only follow my wife. And actually, I look like that because we're the podcast and probably everything. And that's from work relations. And you can tell it's nothing more than that. Did you when you first came on social media? I never have. No? I've never. You would have never seen me ever.
follow FHM girls, never. - Really?
go straight to the message? No. I'm Muslim, I practice my religion to the extent I can and for me
uh,
Even if you were to do things, I think,
I'd be ashamed to be public about it. Yeah, exactly.
You'd be ashamed, everything's for privacy. These women, like you said, they're proud of showing booty.
Men have always been okay, like you said, through society.
like our dads came as freshies on the boats to the UK, saw a white gold blonde hair, they're probably perved into strip clubs. But it wasn't, you don't share it, it's just like a thing you do. But women now,
Making it a public thing is like we're celebrating.
Home.
in a way which was out like it was seen as shameful only a few years ago so that's what
- Well, yeah, I don't wanna take responsibility away from men, but women have always been the gatekeepers. Men have always been men. I think if you look at any period of history in any part of the world, no matter what the culture, if men had unlimited access to sex, they'd take it.
I think it's biological for men to be that way, try and reproduce as many women as possible.
I think that women have always been the gatekeepers. They've always been the ones who are saying no. And if women break down the gates and no longer say no, then they're going to have promiscuous societies in godless cities like Miami, like I just described.
And I agree with you in terms of them deliberately trying to destroy the family home. They are doing that.
Part of it's for consumerism because they want consumerism to be our gods. That's absolutely part of it. But another reason is
I think a lot of the plans that people have who are in charge of the world across the next hundred years are truly draconian and are truly
uh,
evil and the things they're going to plan to do to people in the lives we're going to be forced to live.
And if you destroy the family unit, if you destroy the idea of standing up, the problem is if a man has a family, he'll die for it.
Mm.
If a man's woman doesn't listen to him,
His kids he doesn't talk to. When they come along with these draconian rules and bullshit, you're kind of like, oh, whatever. I'll just move. I'll just move country or I'll just leave it or I don't care. Right?
They're trying to destroy the resistance and the resilience amongst the population so they can make slaves of us all. And I think that the family unit is a big part of that. And the woman. Yeah, that's right. And the best way to do it. Well, absolutely. Because if you have a woman who's truly ride or die, truly by your side, kids who truly love you, you're going to stand on that porch with a shotgun and say, no, you're not coming in this house.
But when you don't have that, it gets to a point where it's like, not my fight, not my problem. And it actually extrapolates not just from the family unit, it goes bigger and bigger. This is the reason why in Western societies,
Nobody knows each other.
Nobody likes each other. If you live in a street in England,
You don't know anyone. You don't know. You can live there your whole life. You don't talk to nobody. And then even if you do start to meet people you don't like, he's that color. Don't like him. He's from there. Don't like him. He likes that kind of car. Don't like him. Nobody likes each other. Society is completely degraded. There's no.
baseline morality, there's no unifying factor, there's absolutely nothing.
What happens is as soon as the law breaks down, if you look at even in America when there's natural disaster, as soon as the law is gone, as soon as the police can't turn up, it becomes...
They start shooting at each other. It's a free for all. Right. We saw in Seattle, didn't we? After the BLM whole. We saw after Hurricane Katrina, they're shooting at the cops. They took over like a courthouse in Seattle. It was just like lawlessness. So they destroy the family unit to destroy the town, to build these societies where everybody's innately selfish. You may be scared of the law, so you behave a little bit, but everybody is absolutely innately selfish. So when they come along with complete insanity, draconian laws, where they say, because of the common cold, you're not allowed to leave your house, for example, we're going to put you out of business and they wreck you. Common cold.
one sits at home and doesn't do shit yeah I was like oh well not my problem not ever when you actually care about your family care about community you care about your town and become much harder to control people because
The globalists and their agenda is to make slaves of us all. That's what we're trying to do. And it's hard to make a slave of a man who has a family and believes in protecting.
But if 2020 taught us anything, they can easily do it. There is so many sheep in the world. Can I say that? I was so disappointed. Do you know what I realized from that? For years, I used to think, how did the Holocaust happen? How did he convince an entire country to think like that? When I saw 2020 take care of this, I couldn't believe how easy it is. It's so, so easy. And I felt insane because when I would say to people, this is insane, they would look at me like I was an alien. And even now that I feel vindicated, they've never come to say sorry to me. All the people that came for me.
At least we saw the difference. - With his cancellation.
like that overnight overnight and everyone all of a sudden people don't even know what he's cancer for i see a video
I've seen on YouTube or TikTok, there's a guy who goes around to campuses
Mm.
And he asked women, random women,
What do you think of Andrew Tate?
And why did you hate him? What's a misogynist?
First they go, "Oh, we hate him, he sucks."
Then they go, oh, because he said this. What did he say? They can't ever mention one thing. And they can't define what a misogynist is even is. Yeah. So there's your example. We're living in a world where they don't even know what a woman is. Bring the mic. Sorry, I'm sorry. No, but it's true. You're right. We don't know what a woman is now. Now we're saying a woman is someone who identifies as a woman. I'm very sorry. I assumed you were both women when I walked in the room. I apologize. Oh, no, no. Yeah, no. You didn't ask. I go by sheep. In America, I get sheep. I apologize. Stuck for love. What a world. What a world. No, but it's absolute clown world. And they're trying to convince you.
during the family unit. They're trying to convince you to ignore your own eyes. None of these things are happening on accident. COVID was a perfect example of how they're trying to convince you to ignore your own eyes. I love that you said nobody apologized because I was the biggest anti-Corona person. - Me too. - And everyone's like, - Yeah, I didn't wear a mask. I got in trouble at work every single day and I did it with my chest. - Absolutely. And now everyone understands, but at the very beginning, I'm talking about day one. I did three minutes of logic. I sat with Tristan and said, look, if this disease kills us, two military aged males in our prime,
the world's fucked. So there's no boy hiding from it. If it kills us, it's over. So we, from within 10 seconds of the propaganda, we're over with it. We didn't do nothing.
And you're right, nobody apologizes. Nobody says sorry, nobody self reflects, nothing. The reason I was so... Oh, they've been fading in Iraq. They haven't said sorry.
that's true a million people what are they going to care about a disease which they can like uncover that was the red flag it's like there's children starving in the world for diarrhea and you can easily cure that and now we're telling everyone has to shut down because old people might die and I was like this is not they're not they're not caring government so why did they do it and people will say money but money is actually a very optimistic way to look at it because I don't think that
In fact...
The people who did these kind of things are above money. They print money. They don't do it for money. They do it because they're training you into submission. When they say to you, wear a mask when you walk in the restaurant, sit down, take it off when you leave, put it back on to go toilet, calm down, take it off. This is nothing to do with medicine. This is submission training.
And they're also training you and convincing you to ignore your own eyes. It's not an accident. They're testing their machine.
When I say ignore your own eyes, I've had this argument with people. I said, did you see a pandemic? They're like, oh yeah, because I wear a mask. No, no.
You saw masks.
I'm not saying that. Did you see a pandemic? Did you see dead bodies? Did you see full hospitals? Did you see ambulances running back and forth? You didn't see anything. They convinced you to ignore your eyes and believe the garbage. And they do this with absolutely everything. And God stands in the way and baseline morality stands in the way.
of complete slave mode so they come along and say okay what's the baseline morality not having sex with children okay let's attack that and say pedophilia is okay what else what do you see with your eyes the sky is blue that's a man that's a woman okay well the sky blue one is difficult let's start with this one let's do this one and they do it so that your own eyes deceive you yeah but you know what's scary is that there's actually people who believe that there's genuinely people that think that a man is a man a woman a woman is a man and
- Empowering. - These are the people who canceled me. - They're the same people. Empowerment is showing your ass. - They're gonna come for us now. They're gonna come for us, yeah. - Isn't it? The same women who think empowerment is showing my ass,
getting a Chanel bag and holding a champagne glass on a private jet. I'm empowerment. That's not empowering.
For me, that is prostitution, like you say. And even, you know, I think it was Emily Ratajkowski. I wrote an interesting piece for Russia today, and I said, the joke is on us, ladies. If Emily Ratajkowski is, you know, going in blurred lines,
Blurred Lines was the music video where they were all, basically, the girls were all naked, the guys were all dressed in suits, and she said, "I felt so empowered because the woman was a director."
The director was a woman, so I felt so empowered being naked, and it's all about, you know, your sexuality and whatever. I'm like, the joke is on you, girlfriend. Like, you're just giving them a show. What are you talking about? But can I just say, you know, because maybe because I live in Dubai, and I meet a lot of women who are about that kind of lifestyle. There is something about they're able to get a man who they don't even like, pay for their rent, pay for their business, pay for their clinic, and then say bye and send his money back to her boyfriend wherever she's from.
the power dynamic. Aren't women becoming a bit more in control by this? No, it's not controlled. Do you think the guy cares?
But do you think she cares? No, but that's the whole point. But she comes across like a process. Like I said, when she's 45...
and the looks have gone and she's chasing now the crack dealers. She's gone from the brokers to the ballers to the crack dealers for anything. These guys have got their wives, kids. This guy is for him.
I stuff her like that and I say, it's just ejaculating. - I know. - Men are like this.
Like I have a gym, it's like a barber shop.
Married men, especially in England, they go to the gym, they go to these Thai massages for this happy ending.
The woman looks like me with long hair. You are like Burj Khalifa. She looks like me. That guy closes his eyes. He has a fix and goes home. All right, she'll put the dinner on. They don't think it's nothing. Men are built like this. I know they don't think it's nothing, but don't you think there's a part of her that when she set her life up and now she's a millionaire and she's got businesses and she might have a kid with this guy. Don't you think that a part of her is like, oh, I don't care either. I got where I need to be. But won't she care? Cardi B will always feel ashamed, trust me. Won't she care? I came as well. Honestly, because if Cardi B doesn't want her kids
Yeah.
Yeah. Like, come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying when you have to-- You know, if you're sitting downstairs in the lobby, and you're going from one hour, a different guy, go upstairs, do it.
two hours go upstairs do you really think of what woman is enjoying that yeah suicide rates for prostitutes is about eight times higher than it and I'm really curious what the suicide rates will be feel only fans girls because it's too early to look at the data but there's no way that's gonna lead to a stable outcome in the future but I know what you're saying I think I think
even not prostitution, I think you're discussing maybe a girl. Gold digger. Yeah, gold digger. She gets with some beta dude who has a bunch of money. Yeah. It makes sense for them. Yeah, it's beta dude. It sounds great. But you know what? If they don't sleep with him, I would applaud her. I would do it. Then she's a hustler. Then she's good. It's the paradox of femininity. It's actually very interesting because if you look at, they always say nice guys finish last and most beautiful woman could get a nice guy who
anything they want and give them all this money and be loyal and love them.
But women don't want it. They don't want this dude. But nice girls feel like they finish last as well. Nice girls don't finish last. No, because the girl that doesn't post and doesn't have a BBR and doesn't have a BBR, a guy doesn't see her. I disagree with that. A girl will always find a man.
- Do you think so? - Always. Men, like he said before, those nice guys work hard all day,
not in shape, hasn't got time, pays his bills, where's he gonna, like you said before, he's not gonna meet a girl, he's got no confidence, like the story he put before on a podcast where his wife runs away with a guy, he's got a kid, he's 45, he's finished. Women at any age can find a man. But don't you think there's nice girls out there that are cooking, cleaning for their man while he's having sex with random girls that he's met on Instagram? I get what you're saying and I think that's
different you're talking about something different you're talking about
Don't be an easy girl and don't act like a wife if he hasn't wiped. No, but if you are a wife, I know girls that are wives and they are at home with the kids and stuff. And their husband is stepping out and she gets to 40 with three kids and he's left it for a 23 year old. So they're nice girls. Also, I think nice people. I don't think it's a nice guy thing. I think nice people and guys don't realize this. I did a video the other day about how men secretly like gold diggers. They like entitled women and everyone came for me. But the reality is men invest first, then love it.
So once they've invested, then they start seeing the value in you. Before investment, they don't. So the girl that doesn't ask for anything and doesn't challenge a man, she actually loses her value with men. But you can still be a nice girl and ask for things.
You can definitely be a nice girl in salats. Can I have some money? You don't have to.
Even if you were to look at, let's say, lonely men, lonely women. Yeah. A lonely woman is a woman with a bunch of choices, but she doesn't want you.
A lonely man is a man with no choice.
And they're completely different.
things yeah and and i understand what you're saying about the girl who gets a guy who does anything for her and hustles and gets money and the clinic and all this stuff but girls don't normally want those
They don't. They want the top tier guy who barely replies. That's the reality. You have to look at us also, not just societally, right? Because a lot of the things we do don't make societal sense. But evolutionarily, we're different. We're animals. We evolved a certain way. And women like the idea of a top tier male with a physical specimen or status or...
or finances, et cetera. And that's never going to be the guy who's like the beta, who works hard and gives you all his cash. And that's, you have to make a choice as a woman. And it is a difficult choice to make. If I was a girl, I don't know which one I'd choose. - But as a man, do you want the girl that's the hottest girl in the room? Or do you want that simple girl that no one would look at? - We want the hottest girl in the room, who's a simple girl. - But then that's the same dichotomy. That's the same dichotomy that women face. - We speak off camera, a lot of my friends. - Yeah. - And we've had private discussions many times.
yeah always
We should appreciate
Like, you know, there's women.
Like I spoke to one friend who's very wealthy.
And he has a baby mother, whatever, like you call her.
And he goes, you know, why am I spending money on these hoes? Sorry to say that.
when I've got a woman who's a ride or die, and he said, like, what's an age where I'm, that's it, I'm putting all my FNs to her.
Whatever happens, I've realized is that hour after the show, all women are the same. Yeah, the same shit. Hour after the show are the same as men. You get used to them.
the lust goes and it comes down to who's a rock who's there when you had nothing who's that and that's the main key who's
raising your kid while you're out having fun. She's sitting in that house
looking after a kid.
as men we know babysitting a child for two hours. - Yeah, it's not easy. - It's like, poof. You know, she does 24/7,
meals, their education, tells them what's right and wrong, potty training, whatever. The older you get, you sit back and think, you know what, that woman deserves respect. But in that process, you've hurt her a lot.
Men unfortunately, when men have, like you said, it's not a good thing. No. Men are built in the same way without
Good.
and then my... Yeah. In the holy book and scriptures, if I wasn't a Muslim, I'd be worse than anyone. No, my boundaries are set by God. But it's instinctive. You can find men who do not have that...
who do not seem to have that desire to go out. And even though let me tell you one more thing first societally.
Men look at the world slightly different than women as well.
We look at the world in terms of completed tasks.
If a man gets a Porsche, he goes bang, take off, okay, I got a Porsche, when am I gonna
that's that's just it yeah i got a house okay cool what am i gonna mention that's just how we and in the world we live in men are hyper competitive right so the second you get something you're not allowed to really look at it and enjoy it too much you got to go on to the next
And unfortunately, we do that with women. We get one to go bang. Okay, she's a solo chick. She's home. She ain't cheating. Boom. Okay, we get another one. That's just how we are, right? Which is part of our society.
But also from an evolutionary perspective, yes, we're evolved to do these things. And you find men who don't seem to have the instinct to chase those women. But that's going to be the same man who doesn't have the instinct to chase those money.
get power, get influence,
be the top dog. The top dog is going to be the top dog at everything. And if you find that guy, if you find a dude who's out there and he's truly top dog across all spheres, he's not going to
Ignore this part of his life. Unfortunately, unless unless something like religion, but it has to be a conscious decision. Yeah, it has to be something. Yeah, he has to actively decide. You're just gonna say, what do I feel like doing? I feel like leaving her there and going out with the boy. Moments back. He's right. Women do.
want that bad guy. Like, I remember a guy who was, it was a mugshot
Yeah. He's a model now. Yeah. What's his name again? Yeah, he's handsome. He was dating someone who is sharing this picture. Oh, he's so hot. He's a convict. Why don't you say the same thing about Jimmy Savile?
Because he's not hot. Yeah. Yeah, but that's why this guy's a criminal. So for example, you're promoting a guy who's on a mugshot.
Who knows what he's done? It could have been wrecked. No one cared what he did. - Yeah. - He's kawaii. They love that whole image, which portrayed through hip hop in movies,
Bad boy call, and then they say, they complain. - Yeah. - I haven't got the good guy who works nine to five, loves me,
holds my hand i brush it massages my neck i've seen guys do that to a wife and like i've been
pull up and go, you're not affectionate.
But isn't it the same? I hate to be this person who's always like, "Oh, but isn't it the same?" We get Laurie Harvey, who's stunning, beautiful, guys want to be her, but they know she's a male... It's Laurie Harvey, I don't know. Oh, you know who Laurie Harvey is? How do you guys not know who Laurie is? I don't know. Okay, let's take a really hot girl. I see Queen Rania. I see Queen Rania. Yeah, you like a nice girl, yeah.
Classy, powerful, queer, right here for me.
Yeah? Who's your celebrity crush? Do you have a celebrity crush? He's not on social media! Yeah but the top tier girl who's the sexist in the room, she's also going to come with problems. Beautiful girls are hard work, they're not easy. I think it's the only change with her age involved. I've got to a point where I find
powerful men attractive who are
who raised kids who are side by side with her king, like, whatever. I love that.
For me, there's some sheikers here who are influencers. I respect that's what I see as a woman.
When you're young, yeah, Samantha Fox when you're a young kid, this, that, but
Pamela Anderson, you know, but that's just perversion. Yeah. It's also very difficult. Like, I have so much respect for women who really stick by their men and, you know, do it for the family. Yeah, I love that. You know, it's so hard to find these loyal women nowadays. And I really think it's because of the influence of these, you know, influencers.
And yeah, I mean, with a lot of the stigma behind
just running to a new man disappears. That is the answer for everything is to cure all. That's the problem with the West. The reason the West is impossible to find a wife is
She's been through so many dudes,
for you.
the second you half annoy her 1%, what her answer is, "Dude." That's just her answer. So you can't ever have any half an argument. You can't miss a good morning text. Yeah, that's very true. It's garbage, right? So you need that stigma there. And when that's gone, it's difficult. And yeah, relationships as a whole are difficult. If I was a girl, I have no idea.
what kind of girl I would, what kind of guy I would date. Because do you really want that dude? Like, do you really want that guy? Would you date you? That's the... The thing is, that's a good question. That's a good question. Would you date you? That's the question. I'll tell you all the good and bad about it. Yeah, go ahead. I think we should all do. You tell me you guys are going...
Okay, let's let's let's apply it to something. Let's look at men like cars.
If you want a Ferrari,
Everyone else is going to be jealous of Ferrari, and it's going to be exciting, and it's going to be a bunch of fun.
but it's never going to be as reliable as a Nissen.
to sit and say, I want Ferrari reliable like a Nissan.
is unrealistic.
You have to make a choice. Now, some people choose Nissans because all they care about is reliability. If you're going to be like, I want a guy. Like you said, the nice guy who does this, you can get a Nissan. But any girl can get a Nissan any day of the week and they never seem to want him. But you can go out there right now and find a dude who's going to pay your bills, do this, do that. You're both beautiful very easily.
But then you look at the Ferrari and you want the Ferrari. Well, the Ferrari comes with a bunch of problems. It's unreliable, it's expensive, sometimes it doesn't want to work.
whatever that's it so you have to choose what kind of guy you want
So you are... I am a thousand percent Bugatti-Basani. I am trouble.
I mean, I'll be because we're on a podcast, I'll be brutally honest. Yeah. Kind of guy I am. Yeah. I believe in taking care of a woman. I think if a woman's mine and I can trust her and she's loyal, I would make sure she's financially taken care of. I think that's actually how men show a lot of their love. Yeah. I think a lot of love is shown by making sure the house is stable, paid for finances. Yeah. I worry about nothing. I think that's how love is shown.
women primarily show their love through sexual exclusivity. I'm not saying I'm gonna be out there and being a massive cheater or something, but I am the kind of guy who,
I'm out. Oh, well, you said you're coming home.
I said I'm out. I'll see you tomorrow. Like, like I'm busy. Like, and that's just who I am as a person. But I don't think if it, if a woman looks to me and goes, I want Tate and all of his status and all of his fame and all of his money, but I want him to do as I say, well, then you're delusional. So hold on, you're really diplomatic. You still haven't answered the question. Would you date yourself? Well, this is the thing. Okay. Let me, let me give another politician's answer. Another politician's answer. Women seem to want to date men who are at that absolute tier,
that's who women choose let's forget like would i date me that's who women choose let's look at who women as a whole are choosing when chris brown when chris brown walks in the club and the girls start screaming not a single one is thinking he's gonna be loyal and stay home it doesn't cross their mind they don't give a it's all status status status status so if you're gonna find a guy with that much status and all them options plus his biological programming you're gonna have trouble you're not gonna have mr dependable but are you gonna attract a good girl are you
I hope.
I think because a wife is going to look at Chris Brown and see that lifestyle and think amazing. I would love to be with him, but there's no point. We're never going to get married. So what kind of woman are you going to attract? That comes into the that's where the game gets difficult, right? Because Chris Brown can walk with that good girl out of the club and he can convince her that he will be good to her. Well, he's not going to find a good girl in the club. Well, not in the club, but you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying?
still a part of being a good girl is being able to vet them. Good girls do not avoid high status
Not at all.
Good girls, they may not stick around as much or something like that, but good girls do not avoid high-status males. High-status males do not have any disadvantage across any of the playing fields at all. It doesn't matter if you're a high-status male who's the most famous man in the world has an advantage with virgins and hoes alike. The exact same. He's that guy.
That's it. But do you think they have a skewed vision? Because they've only been around women that want to be with them, but true wives wouldn't even talk to them.
I don't know if that's true. - But you'd have a skewed vision. If you're a high value man, you'd have a skewed, oh, don't get excited. If you're a high value, successful man, your filter is naturally certain types of women. You, a good girl at home, she would be afraid to talk to you, intimidate, you would never come across her in your life. - No, you can still come across her. I think, I mean, you can definitely come across good girls. There's good girls everywhere.
- There's good girls, but also I'll tell you another thing, a part of this equation to have the conversation professionally is,
A lot of women are a reflection of their men. So a lot of women, especially if they're not completely broken, let's say you've had a girl, she's had three or four boyfriends, whatever.
Her next man can make or break her. She's a reflection of her man. If her man's a G...
and he's got his game right and she behaves herself for him, she'll be a good woman. If her next man's doing coke, hitting the club, being an idiot, she goes off the deep end. A lot of women are reflections of their men. If you, if you see a woman who's been in a relationship for long enough time, if she has any degree of respect for her man, she likes the same music, same political views, same TV show. Same thing he eats. Same thing. She's evolved to do that. Like we can go back from the evolutionary perspective and how women,
joined a tribe and they had to agree with the tribe to survive and women needed men to protect them. And there's all this to look at. So a lot of women are a reflection of their men. So we talk about finding good girls. I don't think you really necessarily find a good girl. You find a girl who's not yet completely broken.
and you're a man enough to make her be a good girl for you. Yeah, that's a lot of women are reflections of their men. So I would argue
A real G finds good girls all day long. Because every girl is like, well, I'm not cheating on him because there's nowhere else to go. I'm not going to go cheat with Mr. Brokey. I'm going to stay with him. Well, maybe you create good girls. Of course you do. Yeah, maybe that's what it is. You create them. Of course you do. But if you're a dork, then of course you can't find anything good. But you're a dork. So, like, why would a girl be good for a nerd? Yeah. You know? So this is where a lot of it comes in as well. Because I know you think that girls can meet a nice guy. But there's certain girls, when they look a certain way, the nice guy doesn't even want to talk to them. He doesn't want to approach them.
she doesn't actually access nice guys. She ends up accessing the player because he's the one that approaches her the most. I think nice guys are trying harder than she'll admit, but she just ignores them.
- Wait, what do you mean? - Like if you're like a beautiful girl, and you walk into a room, the nice shy guy is not running over to talk to you. So her pool of men tends to be the confident men that have lots of girls, take it or leave it. They're the men that she approaches. Women aren't designed to go scout for a man. - I agree, but I would argue that her DMs are full of nice guys, and their profiles aren't interesting enough. And she ignores them, and she goes, "Oh look at this dude with the jet." - DM wise maybe. - "Look at this dude with the jet." And then she's like, "Oh no, Mr. Big Millionaire
- 100% spot on, that's the problem.
She doesn't even notice him. Most men are invisible to him. But what about the same thing with a guy? If he's got hoes in his DMs and he's got that nice girl with a private thing and just says a picture of her and a cat, would he notice that girl? A cat? Well, whatever it is. Now she's staring at her. Yeah, would he notice that?
in the
Because I've never said anything controversial before. It's the first time ever. But no, but the reality is men judge women by their hooks, especially initially, as we do.
So do women. Exactly. This is what we do. If that girl with a cat at home, I'll tell you now, if I found a girl who was a 10 and her Instagram profiles was cats and books and sitting at home, that'd be perfect for me. I have no problems with that. If she's hot. The problem is very few hot girls live that lifestyle because hot girls have access to...
on a whirlwind lifestyle in Dubai and the world so it depends but I also think that there are a lot of women today are not prepared to actually go through that difficult journey with the man and stay with him and you know like I really feel for young men like nowadays like it's
So difficult. Imagine if you want to marry a girl, she becomes your responsibility. You've got like 7,000 dirhams salary coming in every month. Like, it's so difficult, you know. Like, I have so much respect for my mom who...
you know stayed with my dad like well he had nothing like we were living in Rasul Khaimah I swear to God my dad's salary with no joke 500 dirhams like we would eat meat once a week we'd eat
we would eat fish once a week. My dad would go to work with holes in his shoes. And she stayed with him like they're together now, you know, for like
- It's beautiful. - Over 40 years.
It's beautiful, but this is the thing. The world has changed. And this is where... It's too fast. It's impossible. The world's changed. That's the problem. And this is where...
It becomes so difficult because
especially for a man in the world today, I don't think unless you're a top tier male, you can't compete.
You can't compete. It's super. I think there's a, you can actually look this up. They did a study on Tinder.
and they got girls to rate men's attractiveness.
And they were showing that men are more gradual and women are very binary. So they got like a hundred pictures and a guy had to get a rating out of five. And it was pretty even like there's some ones and twos and threes and fours and fives.
Whereas girls, like 80% were ones and twos. And then
20% were fives. And the point is girls are just either like, yes or no. Yes or no. And if you're not in the yes,
Your life's difficult. It's hard. And it's not just looks. It's not just looks. It's a bunch... It's also other things your man can't control. I'll tell you the number one thing that women can...
women are
Women always complain about men and have expectations of women, etc.
If you're a short dude, it's hard. And women don't give a fuck. They're like, nah, nah, I should have grown bigger. Fuck you. Next. You do what? Oh, you're rich? Don't care.
It's hard, right? Don't care a little bit. It's not easy. And what can you do as a short man besides be your best self? Same as being a tall man. I'm not shitting on them. I'm just saying that. As a man, women will wake up and go, yeah, I don't want to too much. I don't know why it's so hard for me to find a man who's rich and strong and interesting and spontaneous and charismatic and has high status and has time for me and doesn't cheat.
tall and has muscles and a Lambo and where's all the guys? What the fuck? There's only one Top G, I'm busy, I'm doing my best. It's hard.
And if you're a normal dude,
It's especially hard because social media, these women have so many choices. Yeah. And this is where the actual thing comes into it. You look at, let's say I'm talking about God blesses.
societies like America, et cetera.
And like you said about the tie, the tie happy finish. Men don't care all the time, right? So if you're an average chick, let's say you're a six or a seven.
on a long enough time scale, if you keep answering your DMs, you're gonna end up with a G somewhere. Even for just two days, fly them out quickly, boom, all shoot. Or she's part of a group one time, whatever, you're with a G. Now it's gonna cross her mind
I can get a guy like that. Obviously, he doesn't talk to her again, but I can get a guy like that. So when Mr. Normal comes along, you're like, well, you ain't got a jet. So even if you're a normal dude, even the normal girls you talk to have been ruined, been polluted. It's hard. It's super hard for men. And I do think it's hard for women, but at least women...
Women have a bunch of choices and it's hard to make the right choice. There are huge swaths of the male population that have no choice at all. Zero choice. Do you think unattractive girls have choice?
well even let's take an ugly girl because I would say that it's really hard to be an ugly girl as well because you're so surrounded by beautiful girls with unattractive men there's other unattractive men that you can relate to but unattractive women they're bombarded with beautiful women all around them I wonder
Okay, let's put it this way. If we were to look at the sexual mating, I do think it's hard to be an unattractive woman. Especially going into a club or something. You don't even want to go. You won't want to go. Completely. But if you were to look at the mating choices of an unattractive female and the mating choices of an unimportant man, I would argue the unattractive female still has unlimited choices compared to that unimportant man. The unimportant man, when I say unimportant, I mean dude...
- Worst of Starbucks, 42.
Like, dude, like his choices are zero.
That chick can still go to the club. If she drops her levels, she'll be fine. I've seen girls back in the old days when you'd bully, you know, in school. She's got nits. You know, you actually... In the UK, she's got nits. Schools are messed up. There'd always be one who had no friends, smelt from a bad...
Bless them. I see these, I went back a few years ago, I saw this girl who was
literally ripped for whole life.
with the cutest mixed race kid walking in. Stuff flowed, God judgment. I was like,
Who how like some quiet my brother like makes a joke I'll put on a podcast, but I
She found a guy, she slept with a guy, and she's got a child now.
She's like, you know, she was happy playing with the kid. The kid was beautiful.
I was like, "Wow, even she found it." But guys, he's right.
Women, guys are unfortunately,
sleep with anything.
I'll tell you another thing. I'll tell you another thing that's different about the dynamics is,
Men don't often leave women.
Now, what we will do is we will start treating a woman like shit. Yeah, 100%. If she leaves, right? But this is the point. So if you're a woman, let's say you're in her scenario, right? She gets with some dude, gives her a kid, whatever. That dude finds a better option. As long as she's a good mother to that kid and she doesn't stress him too tough, she'll always be looked after to a degree and she'll always once a month have a dude to see...
He ain't going to leave her because that's ticked box. What did I say earlier? Tick box. Boom. That's it. Done.
Women leave men. It's different. Women will wake up one day and go...
Fuck you.
Oh, but I've worked my whole life in the sewage plant. Don't care. Fuck you. And now he's 44 overweight, very average wage, no Instagram account. And he's like, he's done. Not just that. Please. Let's talk about the women taking all of the men's money. All his money. Oh, yeah. I mean, I've heard so many stories from guys in their 50s and in their 60s.
The wife cheated on him. She left him for a younger guy also. Yeah. Left him the kids.
and took all his money and now he's broke sitting at home lonely
Missing her I do get she's I do think they're shaped on the shape of this. Yeah
They're trying to put men amazing how it comes full circle. Yeah, right? So when they polluted the female mind where that's a genuine risk and now you're living in America and you know that getting married doesn't make any sense So then what are you gonna be attracted to Instagram? Yeah, I get married anyway
remove the motivation for marriage so then people become reckless and children don't have a home
whilst we've got the man in the room now I've never really watched a podcast with him with two ladies facing him and I saw in all the press he's like I've had to defend him because I know him very well he's a misogynist he's that he's this
Have you ever seen an issue with him? I want to know. As a woman, now you're on the camera. This is going to go on. Go on. Tell the world I'm horrible. You're going to both have the opportunity. From everything you've seen, edited, non-edited. Yeah. What was your issue or what's your non-issue? The first time I saw you speak on something, I remember I wasn't really watching the TV. I just heard it in the background. It must have been on my phone. And I heard you say something. And I was like, is that guy Pakistani? And then someone was like, no. I was like, he's definitely Pakistani. You were saying something that was very familiar for me. I'm Pakistani. So I was like, he must be. And then I found out you grew up in Luton. So I was like, that makes sense.
everything he says, I'm so familiar with it. I would expect nothing less. The men I'm around would think exactly the same way. So I don't find it shocking or misogynist. I'm raised like that. Do you agree with it? That's not about what you're used to now. I'm asking,
with what his stance is, do you agree? As a woman, because he gets a lot of backlash, but he made a good point. - Yeah. - I've been around him,
- Nearly every day sometimes. - Yeah. - I've never seen a woman
in public come and say something bad
I want to know who are these women? Is it a movement? I want to know. I've never seen anyone say it to me. I would say one thing. I would say sometimes it can be divisive. Like what we're saying, nice guys finish last. But sometimes nice girls do. And I think let's try and remove the division and focus on society rather than just men have this really bad. I get men have it really, really bad. But society is shit. Women have it bad in some ways. Men have it bad. I think women are becoming more and more detrimental. I think that. But it's not really entirely their fault.
fix this because I want to see families I want to see and sometimes what happens is it's not you but your followers I always say your followers are this loser guy who's never had options who now start saying fuck women women and it's like but you haven't earned that status you can't speak like that because you haven't done the legwork it takes this in the war room bro she's dissing your your hustlers university bro no no no I get they're putting in the work though they're in some way putting the work but it's the guy with no not putting in the work who's just listening the
money they can't it doesn't land properly because they're just saying I want lots of women I want lots of hoes but it's like you can't fund those women and you can't get those women to submit to you so you can't emulate Andrew Tate but you want to and so that's where the we need to kind of educate them in order to have your views they have to have your lifestyle yeah that's very valid and I
I feel like I do say it a little bit, but I need to say it more. But I say repeatedly that if you're not a talk to your male, life sucks. And I agree with you about the divisive thing as well.
The only reason some of it comes across divisive, I think, is because a lot of the time, especially in America, I'm arguing against rabid feminists. Yeah. Right. So I'm trying to say, look.
you know, blah, blah, blah. But no, that's valid points. That's the only issue. No, that's the only issue for me. Actually, look now,
That's good you actually met a little bit. I was the one who wrote an article
like backing us when we were doing that event here. And as an Arab lady here,
it was very good empowering because I've noticed one thing the western women don't like to
feud with Arabic women who are educated. I've noticed that. They fear them. Yeah. Like, with Lulbala, when she posts, I see her comments, there's not really anyone going against her with me. It's like, F you, you're this, you're scum, you've got a wife in a picture there without a hijab, your kids are this, like, I get this abuse because, you know, but, Lulbala, what was your issue with his, uh,
whole council did you have an issue was your issue with the buying itself or
some Middle Eastern pockets,
pockets of Middle Eastern women,
this new generation having an issue apparently online.
Thank you.
- Look, I think that for him to, for you to be as famous as you are today, you had to do things in a certain way. You had to be extra controversial. And now you got here. You know? I think the reason a lot of the women were
pissed off because it's kinda like you're you're just
turning in the knife, you know what I mean? Telling them like, ooh, we can do this, like we've got, and you can't, you know? So I think now that you do have that platform,
you can actually be really helpful to a lot of women. Like I think a lot of women do agree with a lot of things that you said and man, but they don't necessarily like the delivery because it's just a little bit like
you know kind of like pissing off but it's an amazing platform to create because you won't believe how many racist little white boys are now saying i want a muslim girl i'll do i want to and i'm like oh look you've completely eradicated islamophobia and it's something like mo salah did for a little while in liverpool like they really actually become and i think anything that from my perspective anything that can draw light to a faith that i feel really passionate about i'm always grateful for whoever shines a torch on that so i won't even say it's uh young white boys
Same as us, like Russia, East Europe.
these kind of places are very alpha male, they're very old school, traditional. Very traditional. I think it's the real western pockets. So Islam comes naturally to alpha men.
It kind of is a natural transition because it teaches alpha kind of behavior anyway. Like, I know people like
this little dislike this but Vladimir Putin a lot of people have a
next to the thing I find him
I see him as a very powerful and influential man. I respect him. Yeah, people say, oh, no, I don't see people run around and watch the press, how they take it. And the media portrays everything. But if you really study situation, I respect him as a leader.
I've been to Moscow many times.
crime's quite low, it's organised mafia kind of thing. You won't see stabbings and acid attacks. Women are safe, it's still traditional. - Women are really well treated in Russia, like Dubai. - Yeah, you have an issue with your wife, you can call the wife's father, he comes and fixes it, you don't go to a therapist, when she goes, "Leave him, you're free, you're free, live therapy, pay me more money, the man's evil." You know, that's why I hate therapy, I'm real nice, yeah.
I know you're a therapist, but to an extent in the West, you know? So I think it's not just the white race, it's pockets of the country where, like you said, this agenda's being pushed.
US, UK. Yeah, but these are completely failed nations. They're completely failed society. If you look at any
by any metric you can measure a society, whether it's birth rate, crime rate,
happiness index safety like literally anything you can name these societies are failing daily they're getting worse they're decaying empires on every single level and it's no coincidence that obviously the
The men and women aren't acting right. And it's all messed up. It's actually, it's kind of funny for me because every time I meet women who are attractive physically,
They're like, oh yeah, Andrew, he's not a big deal. The women who hate me are... Whenever you show... When someone does a video on Andrew Tate, I can look at the thumbnail and go, she likes me.
She's hot. She's fine. Buddies love me. It's always some troll. But do you know what it is? Attractive women get an insight into a lifestyle that unattractive women are unaware that even exists. And they don't understand. So when they say things like, oh, we spend and we look after our women, they've never accessed that. So they think that's misogyny. And it's like, no, no, honey, it's amazing. Trust me. So they don't understand what it looks like. And therefore they come at it with a negativity. But I do think appearance plays a role, both men and women. When I see red pill men that hate women, it's always a guy on computer games.
whereas when I see people like you who actually you can tell you love women yeah regard and part of being enough man you love women we love good women love good women yeah you love good women you can tell you guys love women there's no hate towards women it's just this is
how life is but when you meet the people that hate men or they hate women it's because they've faced a lot of rejection and the best way to deal with rejection is to minimize the thing that's rejecting you so they end up just hating the opposite. That's it and I also understand what you're saying also about some of my fans can
what I say yeah yeah but it's okay you know same with anybody I mean when I wrote the article honestly like the title the article is called
what's so wrong about Andrew Tate? And a lot of people were like, you know what? We thought we were going to get pissed off by the end of the article, but we actually really liked it. Like, we don't really like Andrew, but now we're kind of like, okay, he's not pissing us off as much. How do you feel about being so famous at the moment?
Thank you.
Does it feel great? You've survived cancellation. Yeah, how does it feel being famous? Saying that, that guy's got a sniper bullet in that camera. How does it feel being that? Because the thing is, most people who become famous usually through a sport, which you did, but maybe it's
or acting so there's a long way coming to it. When it's social media it can be overnight. How do you feel about it?
Yeah, that's a good question.
in regards to
people disliking me like you're saying getting to the end of the article not really disliking me in my experience i've never had a single person
see me in person and say a single bad thing ever.
Every single man, woman, everyone is positive.
Um
There's some lifestyle changes. I don't go out the house very much. It's a bit of a headache. I didn't do it to become famous like that. But I do feel a massive responsibility. Like when I was saying a lot of my more crazy things, I was saying the same ideas in a more crazy way. But now I understand with a much larger platform, you must be responsible with it. Even like you were saying about fans taking things out of context, etc.
So I try and be a little bit more responsible with it while I'm not selling out and getting my point across.
I just feel a sense of responsibility mainly. Well, you're in a position where you can actually create homes in people's lives now. Yeah. And so with that, you can actually make a really important difference.
Yeah, I don't, like I didn't set out to change the world, but I kind of feel like I'm getting it. You're here now. Yeah, so I have to be very careful. I have to be very careful with what you say, but this is why I push the idea of masculine excellence. And when I do say things like, you know, Big G,
wants i'm talking about big g i'm not talking about dude i'm not about dude yeah and and i get a lot of emails i get over 10 000 emails a day and i get emails from people going i'm just a normal guy what do i do and like then you're a normal dude you can't play by the rules we're even discussing just live a normal life just live a normal life yeah
Yeah. And he goes, well, I don't want this life. I said, well, then you have to become an important man. Yeah. And it's exceptionally difficult to do, but that's
- That's the road that has to be trodden for me. - But you know what, I would always argue that, there's so much beauty in having a normal, simple life, because those without options,
I tend to be more satisfied with what they get it's kind of like when you go to a restaurant there's so many options You don't like whatever but when it's a home-cooked meal just one meal You're always more satisfied so people without options are actually in a privileged position you don't have to try and be this person It's not always greener being Limited means that you're more satisfied. So enjoy it in many ways. Yes. Yeah
Again, that's harder with it is easier said than done. Yeah, it's easier the pressure that's on men is immense
pressure like I said earlier for the things people expect out of a man are immense and most men I'm not even just talking about from a sexual perspective you can look at it from an entire societal perspective
Most men are incapable of doing what society expects of them.
Women go to men and say, we have a problem here.
And men will say, okay, don't worry, I'll fix it.
The man doesn't have a fucking clue to fix it. He ain't got any money, he ain't got any friends, he's a brokey, but his chick needs to fix. So he's like, "Oh shit, how do I fix it?" He can't sit there and go, "Don't know babe, you fix it." 'Cause then she'll leave. - Yeah, she'll leave. - So like the pressure on men in all seriousness- - She won't leave straight away, but she'll definitely leave. - Oh sooner or later. - She'll definitely leave. - Right, so you've gotta be that guy. And it's like, it doesn't matter what it is. You wouldn't believe, Tam will confirm it, when you're like,
When you're like the top tier in your life, you end up being the top tier of not just your relationship, but almost like a clan. Like I have almost 100 people who come to me with their biggest problem. I know 100. I can name 100 people right now if they got arrested.
or if the worst thing happens, they get one call, take, right? And you end up having to be this guy who can do everything. Like whether they need a vaccine passport or you're going to get out of jail in Russia, or they need a million dollars. You're like, whoa. So you end up being this guy. And if you're not the kind of guy who can fix a bunch of problems, you soon, especially women, they'll be fast. Women will come to you and go, oh, this. And you're like, oh, I'll fix it. If you're like, oh, I don't know, bro. I think it's also so competitive, you know, and you can never show weakness. Like you always need to be strong.
like sharks in the water, if they smell blood, like, you're done, especially in the world of business, Andy. There are so many
men who are so successful but
Yeah, the amount of pressure that they're under, these guys are like popping Xanax pills like they're... I don't want to show him, I get DMs from him.
And like you said, I get these requests. People think I'm a shaker stuff for life. The stuff I get things like, can you help me with money too? Can you get me out of jail too? Can I have that car? And we're responsible for a lot of people.
you end up looking after people close to you and don't have the same thing. But I get a lot of emails and some of them you can tell they're genuine.
I see the profile, you know, I can see if
of guys who are saying if it wasn't for him in some of his videos,
I was literally, she left me, I did this.
I was suicidal and I believe it. I can tell from a man how he's written. I can tell a fake one who wants a selfie to a real message, yeah?
how he feels confident in some of his videos, the way he just goes shut.
F her like... Yeah. His delivery helps men. Yeah. You think some people... Women don't understand.
Men need that. Men need that. They need tough love. Like the old football coach, the boxing manager, Stalin, whatever. That kind of autocratic. That is what makes men move. Like Saddam Hussein. You need those powerful figures. Where they go, look at society. The iron fist goes, men just go. I think that they need to realise that being a high-value man isn't for everybody. And being with a high-value man isn't for everything. If you're a girl, you know that being with a high-value man is not always great. You don't get them on standby whenever you want.
I think he's saying get confidence. - Get confidence, yeah. - Get confidence. Don't feel like you're-- - Fulfill your potential. Don't have to be the best, but be, fulfill your potential. - Sensory a world around chasing some woman or whatever. That's very important. - Yeah. - But one thing I wanna go before we soon wrap it up is,
All the viewers know you've got
you revert to Islam and everything, obviously I know. - Yeah. - The video went viral. But how's your life changed in any way? How do you feel? I mean, it's been a bit of a while now.
Welcome to the club. Do you feel life change? Do you feel a bit...
relaxed. Yeah, the brotherhood is amazing. That's the first thing I will say.
you want to cure racism. Islam cures racism.
Like it's amazing, the brotherhood. That's certainly there.
I certainly do feel more relaxed. I feel like
I always had faith to a degree, so it's not like I'm brand new to the idea of faith.
but I certainly feel more relaxed. I feel like
A lot of the things which I knew
were degenerate, but especially when you're you kind of get to a weird fame was a weird thing to also to answer your question.
when you're kind of on your way up to fame,
or you're getting famous or you're quite famous, you want to be in the place you're supposed to be. Right. And then you get to a level of fame where you just don't want to go anywhere. It's just like, but a lot of things, it's, it's great to look at things that previously I would have felt like for work I should be at or
for social because people I know I should be at and just just go around.
No. No. Wrong. No. Staying home. So that's good.
- What's the hardest thing so far? Is there anything? - Nothing's been hard. I've quit alcohol.
That hasn't been difficult, but I've always had insane willpower so I can do it
I just feel like it's a journey. There's a lot to learn. It can be quite daunting. You know, like even the even the language, even Arabic. It's like it's very hard to learn.
So I'm just on a journey like everyone else, and I'm trying to study it. - So give us some Arabic words. Let's hear some. - All I know so far is halas, 'cause I use it. It's the easiest word, halas. - Halas, halas. - Yeah, so, but yeah, it's very hard, so I'm doing my best with it, but,
I think like I've explained before on other podcasts, it's the only religion that that's left on the planet worth.
that has serious boundaries. I saw actually an Islamic guy, an Islamic podcast, I don't know who he was, who said, Tate,
reverted to Islam because it's intolerant or because its degree of intolerances because of its strict lines and people are trying to walk away from it because of its strict lines. But Tate understands the beauty of strict lines. And that's exactly what it is. You need to have boundaries in life like everything we just discussed. If you remove boundaries.
It becomes a free for all, right? So you need to have that. That's a very good point he made because I've not seen that I'd like to watch that because
I speak to guys about Islam all the time and young boys, and I see them trying to chase that Western kind of way of life. I want to be this that when you've got a guy who has it all.
in this world, like you say, he comes to Islam. So to all you young guys feel ashamed, like, don't feel shy or embarrassed to be what you are. And I was like, I'd be proud of like, I've always been I could be in a meeting.
Anyway, everyone knows me. I won't touch alcohol. I'll pray in the corner.
And I think a lot of Muslim women
are tending to shy away and I'm sorry
we need more women to put like
they see it as a...
It's kind of like controlling the hijab
when millions and millions of women wear the hijab willingly as a sign of empowerment so i think men we have like people look i think women are a problem in the crossroads in life where there's no
They're chasing this hunky, very stupid fairy tale. They're ashamed of being modest.
and I've got two daughters and I'm thinking which cave to move into when they're 16. I think Russia. I would personally recommend Russia. But I think also you can't have it all. Like you need to know that you cannot have it all. You know, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Life is all about, you know, there's a quote I love, which is if you don't sacrifice for what you want, what you want becomes the
sacrifice.
You just got to do it. Like if you want a nice body, you have to go to the gym, like every single day, you know, nothing comes easy. Like it's not like, okay, now we have Uber. We, uh, we have Uber eats. We have everything. Like everything is now quick, quick, quick.
You know, people need to understand that things take time and you have to sacrifice. You can't just
get it easy and
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's been a good discussion. It's good to see
Let the audience see ourselves. This was not planned. No one's been paid both women
Just right. Different backgrounds and
they kind of support what Andrew said, so that shows that
maybe the media are portraying lies and trying to cancel him for a reason. Who knows? Yeah. I know. Should I do it? Should I end the podcast? That's exactly why they're trying to fucking cancel me. I'll tell you.
They're trying to cancel me, not because of the things I'm saying.
The things I'm saying are understood. In fact, in most of the world today, like you said, they're widely accepted.
And even in the Western world, in the heart of the failed societies, 20 years ago, everything I say would be considered as a fact. They're trying to cancel me, not because of what I say, but because of the mass mouth influence I have. They look at me and they say,
Young boys listen to Andrew more than they listen to all the other propaganda mechanisms we've constructed. They don't listen to the people in school who are telling them bullshit. They don't listen to the other YouTubers that we prop up that tell them bullshit. They're listening to Andrew and they're thinking for themselves.
and they're scared. This is the number one demographic on the planet that the people in charge of the world are afraid of. Because when you send men to die in a ditch,
you need young military-aged males. And when young military-aged males rebel against the system,
that rebellion is a revolution. If enough thousands of men get in a group
on the street, governments change. Women get in the street, no one cares. Yeah, pink hats, don't give a shit. Not interested. It's gonna get cold, they'll go home. But the men, it's different. And they're scared.
They're scared of young military-aged men uniting against the control mechanisms of the Matrix, and they see me as the person who's doing that.
Aristotle had to kill himself.
No, sorry, Socrates killed himself after being arrested. He was arrested for corrupting the youth by convincing them not to join the army.
It's the same thing with me. They tried to cancel me because of my influence. So I'm saying this now so everybody knows at home, that I would never ever under any circumstances, no matter what they say, kill myself. Ever. So, we'll see how it goes. - Did you know that I was in England recently, I used to be a teacher, but one of my teacher friends said to me, "Oh, in PHSC lessons," which is like, "They're teaching them not to listen to Andrew Tate." - Oh no, I know what this is. - Did you know that? - I was so shocked. - Someone sent me that, otherwise it was a prank. - No, she told me. - Kids are sending it to me arguing. - She showed me the lesson. - They're saying, "Can you say something?" I'm like, "Is this a Photoshop?" - No, no, no, she showed me her lesson plan.
I'm in the curriculum. Ignore this man. Ignore this man because this man. And what do I teach? I teach
teach personal responsibility personal accountability resist the slave mind think for yourself train hard like what do I say that's negative compared to all of the music stars seen about drugs rape murder kill yeah little Nas is dancing on the devil in his music videos all of this is fine but when you come along and say think for yourself and don't don't accept the matrix programming at face value then you must go then you're an enemy of the system so I just have to say you're wrong about nothing happens when all if all the women go to
straight because
y'all not gonna have anything to eat for dinner you know what i mean so anyway just also want to thank you like so much for giving us a platform and also
you know, like backing up your friends, Andrew Tate.
No, I'm just like, I'm straight, we know each other a long time and
You can't sway. When men have, like, you can never, like I've told Anna many times or other people,
Give me a billion dollars cash to the house Islam. I want a billion dollars cash and
fill up this room, but a lot of people will be like, you know? You can never do it, you can never make me sway another way. And I'll be like that, he's like that, and that's why certain people
get along because you have the same kind of thing. Have you guys known each other for a while?
- Been around the search, yeah. - Stop, how long? - It was the 1960s. - What was he like before all of this? - He's always been around. I always see him popping up somewhere. But you can tell a man's character when they fight. And I remember when I first saw him, he's younger than me.
and it was lean and tall and he fought,
a few of the tough guys on the circuit
you could never be like, he'd always go to the end, where the Iranian guy he fought who was
a notorious car, he was on the streets, wrecking, I don't want to say his name,
in jail, feared, what, six second knockouts? He was about, I don't know how old he was. 18? 18. And I remember that fight because I was really sick that week. Having a war with one of the toughest guys. Not only in the case. Not a professional fight. Professional. Oh, professional. Okay. This guy was feared. Like, this guy fought Jimmy Manuart, who was like a UFC fight on that level in those days. Okay.
ahead of his time, feared out of Joel. Good friend of mine, you know, but
the company in that case.
He was hanging there And you look at him You think No what This is a mismatch And he's They're going to war You won't But you'd have to kill him
I remember then, everyone would book him then. So when you see a guy in a fight, you can see a lot about him. You can't hide
under the lights of the ring. You know, there's an old saying, all the training comes out when you're in that ring. So you can't be a world champion.
and be a clown or, you know, it takes a lot
things a lot of men
will never understand or feel. And I always say to every man, you want to feel the ultimate, the ultimate feeling apart from--
having kids of course but being a Muslim but
is winning a fight
I don't care who you are. Money, yeah. Money, drugs, you say it. Really? There's no feeling to any man winning a fight, put your hands up, the people...
I'm not lying.
It's from the beginning of time, from wars, from Khalid bin Walid to Genghis Khan to Alexander. And losing has the same negative effect. But then it's the hunger of going back. It differentiates the men from the boys. But any man who steps in that ring or cage you respect their warriors because it takes a lot. We were saying that we went to an arena the other day to watch a game but...
that feeling of your backstage getting wrapped. You hear someone's been knocked out your necks, the cheers, it's like this tunnel, it's like the Colosseum.
It doesn't matter where you fight.
it's an alpha male thing and that's that's why men and women different and i could to every guy out
you have to experience it once. It changes your life. Every man needs his ass kicked once in his life to be a man, in my opinion. And the guys who are cocky, stupid and leery and all these guys who are against him have never had a fight in their life or been hit.
I'm telling you.
Speaking of the World Cup, I mean, we're talking about sports happening now in Qatar. Do you think Cristiano is going to
Retire.
I think for 4 million a week, no. For what I'm hearing Saudi, I think he can do what he wants. I respect him, I like him as a man.
legend of the sport. I think everyone's day comes in sport. How old is he now?
- 36? - 36, yeah. - 36, but for football. It's like Andrew, I get calls all the time, and I'm saying to him, I'm the one saying to him, don't fight. For what? You're a world champion, you're wealthy. Guys who fight are broke, I'm being honest, like, it's a passion to an age, and then when you keep fighting, you see these ex-pros,
it's a paycheck you can tell me all you want they're fighting for a paycheck you don't need to but you lose your legacy like that it's not about legacy it's hard to wake up from silk sheets and go running in the morning there's an old saying he's got two daughters that legacy is that's the thing but Krishna has got nothing to prove now it's about business and money you can do what you want but for my point about the Qatar World Cup is the West is
racism, biases, it's got to stop. But they showed themselves though, because so many positive things have come out of Qatar. They showed themselves. I think they're an example. I think for now, Alcourt Stadium should be banned because I was there at a game.
English or Welsh, you know,
Normally with cocaine and alcohol there someone's getting bottled head-butted
someone loses. There was no violence, everyone got on.
the place is safe and I think that's a testimony to the GCC and the government of Qatar, their stance
they,
stood firmly against
that rainbow agenda, they took the stick, and I respect that. A lot of people would have caved in and gone, okay, let's put flags everywhere, let's put rainbows in, let's heal the world. They said no, and you know, the West can say, well, I respect them. As a nation, I really... It's a beautiful place. Yeah, two points about that. One, we just said, or you just made the point earlier that
By restricting things and removing things, life can be better if you actually place boundaries. And we just talked about it with the alcohol in stadiums. That's a perfect example of it. And also to tie into what we were saying earlier about agendas and how the Matrix are doing things on purpose. What the fuck has football got to do with this agenda? They're completely unrelated. They've just taken something popular, the most popular sport in the world, and they've taken one of their agendas. They've tried and they've just fucking stuck them together and say, fuck you.
And it's bullshit. It's garbage. It's insanity. It's nothing to do with each other. The halftime will be spent talking about LGBT issues. It's nothing to do with each other. I didn't even realize it was football on. I just thought it was an LGBT program. Matrix programming. Matrix programming. They're trying very hard. Matrix programming. And they're winning in that regard. They've indoctrinated most of the world. But who's your money on today? Morocco or France?
I'm praying for Morocco. Let's pray for Morocco. Can we pray for Morocco? Let's pray for Morocco. It'll be historical. But... Paris is... Listen, Paris is getting set on fire either. Paris is burning. For sure. If you have a Lambo in Paris, put it in the garage. I feel sorry for a Parisian tonight. Yeah, it's done. It's done. Marbella's left came...
It's going to be a nightmare tonight, but inshallah, let's see. But it's still good that they got this far.
Oh it's amazing, even though football, we don't really care for football.
it's not your sport not your thing for me individual sports like we said for me the ultimate sport is fighting from the beginning of time for the Greco-Romans Spartans
Mano, for me that's the only sport.
Football is good and things, but listen, there's no sport like combat. Of course.
Like when you were younger, like I remember I was young.
you go to a club yeah there's like Ronaldo, Gaza, Lineker but when Mike Tyson's sitting in a corner everyone's like wow Alpha he can beat everyone up he's Rich as Tyson Ronaldo wants a selfie Khabib comes comes like comes
There's a different... All the movie stars go to the big boxing matches for a reason. Every man watching or kid will say you can have any sports star. Djokovic, I mean, who cares? Nice guy, but Djokovic is over there. That's great.
There's Mayweather, there's a Khabib. Fighting has this thing as kids. We like T-Man, we like WWF, we like Rocky Balboa.
it's instilled in them since the day beginning of birth. So you can't change that. As much as you want to push an agenda,
to wear a skirt or play with Barbie.
Yeah, man. I mean, men love he man tough to survive. I
I'm the hardest since...
in the back of school
I'm the strongest I am, headlock punching your brother. And I know we're supposed to be wrapping up, but...
That is innate and it's biological and that's what they're attacking. That's what's happening here. They're trying to attack that and say that that's not the idea of masculinity. You don't have to be that way, et cetera.
The point I want to make about all of this
The final point about it is how dangerous that truly is.
because this idea of masculinity being under attack and people saying that, you know, men don't have to be real men. They don't have to stand up and
and do what they're supposed to do and have a hard time. They can be more emotional and be softer, etc.
Do you know what you get when you get men who can't control their emotions?
violence.
Every school shooter, every fucking rapist, every murderer. These are men who cannot control their emotions. You tell a man, I say the part of being a man is acting the right way regardless of how you feel. Whether you're happy, sad, you have to act like a man's supposed to because of your honor and duty.
And society is saying, no, you can act how you feel as a man. That creates murderous rapists, school shooters and idiots. And domestic violence. And domestic violence. She pissed you off. You better keep it chill.
Telling men not to control themselves. You can see very quickly how society will degrade. Very quickly. It's all garbage and it's not on purpose. And you wonder why crime rates are through the roof. Bro, shaitan. I'm never going back to the West. I'm staying here. No, honestly, I think, yeah, you're right. You spotted those. The West doesn't like it.
The people don't like having an agenda. It's a fact because I've gone through hours. I was thinking, what was so bad what he said? I've never like, I literally had to look at everything they said. I was like,
Huh? Like there's much worse, like you say, Cardi B's last song.
It's gone off topic.
it plays on Chris Frey, this radio version. Yeah, first thing in the morning. No, it's like, everything's dubbed. Why are you playing the song? No, listening to it on radio, it's all dubbed. That's how vulgar it is.
And Western society said, we don't like gangs, we don't like violence, we don't like gun culture. But yet they'll pay millions of dollars for a rapper to come and perform on stage in England.
Yeah. And they'll promote it. So you don't know what you're doing yourself. Well, thank God for Dubai, I guess. Alhamdulillah. Best city in the world. I was in London for six months over the summer and I was literally like... I'm sorry for you. I apologize. I was so depressed. And then as soon as I landed, I have to say this, Dubai is the best city. You love it, right? Hands down. It's the best. I can't believe I get to live here. I've been here a couple of years and I still can't believe I get to live in such an amazing city. It's the best, especially as a woman. That's a testimony to the leadership. You can have money, you can have countries.
Leaders make.
Leaders make countries, leaders make cities and his vision. He's made it a safe haven. It's safe. It's got money. It's got the best of everything. But at the end of the day, safety, the way to make money, the tax, the
I mean, I was in a restaurant the other day, I saw him. He has no security.
You can greet him. You can't.
If you saw Boris Johnson at a restaurant, he's a number of 5,000 people around him. People are going to start wankering him. No one cares for him. The Sheikh drives around on his own, shakes hands with people, gives what you want.
I've seen people go up to them saying, my wife's sick or I can't do this, and they look after you. So that's why the people...
love him as a leader because he looks after the people, hence the community is right, safety is good.
you need more countries like the Arab world in the world. I think the whole world would be better. You nailed it. You spent six solid months in my mind. I know. I was so, so depressed. I couldn't believe this was my life. And as soon as I landed like this, it was instant antidepressant. As soon as you land. So you don't have depression. You just live in London. That's right. I'm not going to get into that one here now about depression because people will come hit me with that one. You don't have depression. Just move. Come on. Let's just move. It's amazing. Thanks again. No, thank you guys. Thank you. I wanted to do this purely because
a lot of people say it's always guys you always sit with guys with and you say it's all guys and wallah he is a muslim nothing was pre-planned here i didn't tell him to say anything
And I just wanted to prove a point that
it's all fake. Women also support the system. There are women out there who understand
how life should be and I think you guys should speak up more. You are but I think they're not giving you a platform but it's good to give you a platform and speak up more because
then they can't use the whole misogynist, sexist kind of angle, you know? Yep. So thank you again. Thank you, guys. Stay tuned for the next episode. Thank you.