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All right, everybody, as promised, Tristan
Tate. Yay!
How you doing this night?
I'm doing absolutely wonderful. How are you? I'm wonderful.
Good. Now I noticed I've noticed that you're pregnant. Do you mind if I smoke? Is that okay? I almost was like, yeah, sure. It's just away from me.
Yeah, she's actually just really gassy and that's kind of how it... No, I'm very pregnant.
oh me all right no i've been working out i've been getting back to you know when she got pregnant uh with our other child uh during covid they closed the gyms down you know yeah and i didn't really and i was i like playing basketball and and that was my reason i really went to the gym i kind of got a little big so a little no i mean you look in good shape i was just totally yeah i don't want to be don't want to be painted as some sort of misogynist god forbid oh no way not
So I've done, I'll be completely honest,
I've seen a few of your videos. You actually contacted my social media manager, my cousin.
when talking about the podcast. And I thought, you know what? These two look funny.
I'm going to agree to do their podcast. I don't know. I don't know who your audience is. I don't know what kind of questions you have for me, what kind of thing you want to, to even ask me.
So I guess I'm going to be pleasantly surprised. So sometimes I feel like the best conversations come from doing zero preparation at all.
We obviously had no discussion on what we're going to talk about, you know, what
topics we're going to cover.
Yeah, hit me with a shot. I don't know.
I personally, I just want to open up. What do you think is the biggest misunderstanding about you? I mean, you already made the misogyny comment, so you know. Yeah. Well, I mean, the biggest misunderstanding about me, I think anybody who spends time with me after seeing clips of things that I've put online, find me a lot less intense in person, and a lot kinder, gentler, and more friendly.
because people are always on guard when they meet me.
People will come up and say, "Hey man, can I take a picture with you?" or "When I take girls on a first date," or "When I meet guys for the first time," they're initially like,
crapping their pants. And after 20 minutes or 30 minutes, I'm like, "Oh, you're not actually like a violent gangster who's gonna hurt me." I'm like, "Why on earth would I do that?" I don't understand where this impression comes from. Maybe it's the country I live in and that reputation, maybe it's the fact that I, the way I dress, I'm a big guy, I'm tall, and I've made a lot of money. People immediately assume
that I'm some sort of gangster or some sort of criminal.
which is the biggest misconception about me and my brother.
I have no criminal record at all, zero.
A few arrests for, you know, the old punk shop in the street when I was 17 or 18, but that's not a criminal record. Right. That's just, you know, getting held overnight to sober up. When you're young, I guess. No, completely clean criminal record. It's the fact that I would do something wrong to anybody.
Exactly.
kind of hurts me because all I try to be is nice to everybody like
What is your take on
on lying.
- Online. - Online. What would you find it necessary at all?
A lie. To lie. Yes. Yes, I would find it necessary. Not necessarily because you are trying to live a lie. I like to...
speak the truth. And now I feel like you're going to hit me with some difficult questions. I'm very excited about that.
I like to speak the truth and I like to be a very truthful person, but sometimes I lie to spare other people's feelings.
Sometimes I lie to not
waste my day engaged in nonsense arguments about what I was or was not doing the previous weekend. I don't think it's necessarily that I speak up for my actions. It's just, you know, I mean, I have a daughter myself and her mother is pregnant. Hey, Tristan, do you think I look nice in these shoes? 20 kilos heavier than she usually is. I'm like, yeah, you look amazing.
I do that. That's just cruel, isn't it? That's why I don't ask those questions. I don't ask them. Lying's important, not necessarily for me. I can live my life and I can live my life. But, you know, sometimes it's just nice to lie to other people, isn't it? Well, you know, I would agree.
I won't. But, you know, when I was growing up, my dad taught me, you know, because I used to lie as a kid, you know, hide my report card, throw it in the garbage, you know, oh, it fell in the sewer, you know, and that was my thing growing up. I used to get my my butt whooped. I mean, I used to get ass whooping slept and right for lying. And one thing that my dad told me that I'll just never forget, you know, is he said lying is a character defect.
the stoicism i'm sure you're familiar with that and i and i and i've done a lot of i wouldn't say terrible things in life but things that i'm not particularly proud of so one of the things that i have done to kind of overcome the guilt is develop my character in such a way to walk like a stoic and i have this little saying that i say and it's be a king not by crown
title or land but by character and that's that's my little thing you know so so we may disagree but you know I have a beautiful wife and
I stick with just her.
But I know it's a lot of fun doing what you do. But, you know.
Why does everybody assume that I do something otherwise? I don't know. I don't know. Have I ever said anything to that effect? I probably haven't.
But all the archives have now been deleted. So there's no evidence of that.
Yeah, I think that, as I said about everyone living their own truth,
I...
as crazy as it sounds.
I really love the idea, and this is why I've agreed to be your podcast.
You know, man, woman, you're in love, you have your family together, you stick together. That's what makes society great. Not everyone can run around being like,
people assume I am. Right. Because, you know, it's just too many broken hearts.
Too many people get upset.
A lot of men don't have the
um
let's say...
discipline to
pull it off in a healthy way. You know, people get very lost in, in lifestyles and get lost in themselves and, and,
catch downward spirals. So I actually really like your setup.
as much as I like to live a different way.
So yeah, no judgment from me at all. No, I could definitely see that. All the things that you have, you probably don't have this one thing that I have.
I couldn't, I didn't find her till after I was 30. So I spent time in strip clubs and clubs and bottles and VIP and I was younger. So I was in my 20s. I was always around lawyers and my dad actually owns his own business. So I spent a lot of time living a similar not yachts. And, you know, I didn't get my way like you did probably but I had a taste a small sliver of it, you know, and I never thought in a million years that I would find a woman.
like her. So the chances of anyone else finding it pretty slim to none, in my opinion, you know, and that's a very, that's a very healthy way of thinking. Yeah, you know, I'm glad you're happy. I would argue
myself.
that I have met
and still know very equally wonderful women. - Okay, okay. Sorry. - In my lifetime. I don't think it's possible to meet and date as many women as me without running into some-- - Some good ones? - Perfect ones. Some amazing ones. And just the fact that perhaps somebody else who wasn't me
would have...
you know, proposed and married her and stuck just with her.
doesn't mean that
because I decide to say, have a child with her and support her and still love her and have a great time with her, but do whatever I'm doing on the side. That doesn't mean that I can't see how special she is too. Mm-hmm.
You know, I do have I do have eyes for that.
I really do. So you see this woman is so special. What would make you not want to just stick with her and like settle down with her if you think she is that special?
Why would, so in a hypothetical world, if I met the perfect woman, why would I not want to settle down with just her? Right.
I think it's just a matter of appetite.
That's all I think it is. I mean,
There's no reason for myself and my brother to have 27 cars.
My Aston's perfect, it really is.
and I love my Lamborghini and my Ferrari,
Bugatti's a nightmare, but you know, it's fun sometimes. And I hate to compare cars to women. No, I get it. And I'm not even saying I'm a womanizer. This is not the direction I saw this interview taking, which is fine. I like being blindsided.
But I just don't see why I would. I feel like
Back in...
A lot of traditional values have been eroded
by modern society and they've been eroded by modern society to the point so much where
It's beyond the man's fault and beyond the woman's fault.
that the traditional marriage setup isn't necessarily possible.
I mean, men used to be able to support his wife on a single job. The wife used to be able to stay home and raise the kids. Most of the time, and women hate me saying this, most of the time when you got a marriage between high value, nice people, the woman was a virgin with no previous lovers. And there were certain things that the men and the women
both bought to the table.
I feel like modern society has twisted this all
so much in a very violent way where women, through no fault of their own, have perhaps run into their own men
run into the wrong men, you know, their body counts a bit higher than they'd like it to be. The man has worked his ass off, has a university degree, but can't run a household on his own. His wife needs to go to work as well. The traditional value set up is so...
near impossible to do
I'm like, well...
If she's in Bucharest and I'm in Moscow,
What am I going to do? I've got to entertain myself for the weekend. Is it really going to erode my relationship that much? Is she really going to love me any less?
Am I going to love her less by doing it?
So it's a mutual thing then?
No, it's not me. Oh. No, no, no.
Zero percent. And it never could be. But you know what? I can give you an example.
I can give you an example. Whereas... So I...
I don't believe that that
Let's call it self-pleasure. It's a healthy habit for men. I tell young men to cut that out. Consuming any type of online content that assists that should be cut out.
And I tell men I don't think that's a very good habit.
Men can...
engage in sex with a woman, I believe.
and feel zero emotional pain.
um...
zero emotions towards her.
He can just essentially use her, but she can use him at the same time. Men can go somewhere away from their wife for a weekend...
sleep with a girl and go home and feel nothing.
Now,
The only alternative
to having sex with women
is sitting there in front of your computer with your pants around your ankles. And I don't think that's a very healthy habit for men, one.
Two...
compared to what women get. Have you seen a woman's sex toy catalog ever in your life? Have you seen them? I've been a fair villa. They are as thick as dictionaries, listing all sorts of gadgets and gizmos and fucking space rocket shapes. X, Y, and Z that can outcompete a man in every single way. And what? We're supposed to be stuck with this?
No thanks.
If I need some entertainment on a weekend and I'm in a hotel room and I'm far away, you're going to be at home with your fucking...
whatever you know that you that you've ordered your thing that can do things men even can't so what am I gonna do sit there with my with my pants around my ankles in front of my laptop with my
Dick in my hand. I think it's only fair that I get to experience some sex that may not be as good as it is with my wife at home.
But you know,
I don't see the harm in it. So yeah, I think it is mutual because women have...
fantastic sexual alternatives.
when their man is young. Men simply don't. That is, I mean, it's true. And they can do things men can't. Yeah, so for me, you know, personally, I don't disagree with you at all, at all.
I think that there is no right or wrong
up or down, left or right way to go in life. But for me personally, you know, we just met, so let's get personal. I've had some run in with drugs and alcohol, more drugs than alcohol. And so I learned a little bit about the mind and the neurobiology behind how we work and how the dopamine and all that stuff flows through us. And so I understand my drive and how to be successful. But I also look at the thing that you are looking at about how you splurge with
discipline, you about discipline, you know, I think, you
that it's a frame of discipline to not
just to have sex with one partner and not succumb to the heroines of the world, if you will. You know what I mean? And that's just a personal
thing for me. Would it surprise you if I told you that I've never tried any type of drug ever in my life?
Thank you.
Why do you drink alcohol? Maybe. Maybe. We're just eating from different sides of the plate. Absolutely. I see. And I don't – I do not disagree with you on that. I think that that is very, very relevant. And everyone has their own walk of life and how they're going to do things and how they're doing it. But I do not agree that –
you should be cancelled for some of the things that you believe in. I thought this was supposed to be a freedom of speech thing. What's funny is this? What's very funny is this?
Nothing that I've been told I believe in, and nothing about the reasons why the cancel mob is after me,
is actually true. I mean, stupid things like a joke about I wouldn't give my friend CPR because he's not a hot 10 out of 10 chick. I mean, that's just obviously a joke.
That's obviously not the truth that it's a joke. And that's the kind of reason I get it canceled.
when anyone ever says to me you know um...
you should stick with one woman and you know maybe you shouldn't you know be so much of a playboy etc i would
you could switch that argument on its head because it's the cancel culture model
that say things like,
Oh, women are free to go around and do whatever they want, have sex with whoever they like to.
And I'm like, okay, so what's wrong with them choosing to sleep with me?
Because it's not, you know, it's not the men. Women are the gatekeepers. Unless you're some weird...
creep or a criminal or a rapist or some sort of, you know, deviant.
Women choose whether they have sex with you or not.
So the fact that people will, the same people who say women are free to have sex with whoever they want,
And they have the complete freedom of choice and they can run around and jump into any bed they like. And you're not allowed to judge them for it.
When...
I don't say I go and sleep with a lot of women. I say, well, women choose to jump into my boat.
So is that not okay by you? These are the same cancel culture people who are after me.
So what you push, does that make me the bad guy? I should be their hero. But...
I should be their champion, you know?
But I'm not. I'm surprised. I do think that, you know,
When I was probably like 20, 23 or so, about 10 years ago, I went down the hole.
As your brother references the matrix and you guys talk about the matrix and capitalism and how it works and the elitist the Rockefellers Rothschilds, you know, all the stories you've heard. And I used to be a big anti capitalist kind of person. But as I as I got older, I realized that I wasn't going to change a thing.
on my own. The best thing that I could do would be just to work on myself and build a strong family. And so I kind of stay away from that dialogue because people get really turned off by that stuff. "Oh, you just don't want to work," or whatever the case is. But I definitely think there's a lot of value in saying that the society that we live in has been designed in a way
that it removes the masculine qualities that got us to this point.
I will say that that's very real. And I, and I studied some neurobiologists and they talk about like chimpanzees and how the alphas and the, and the betas and the, and the mothers and how they caretake and how that society is functioning. And that's the same way that we function for so long. And now that they've raised prices, inflation, the cost of house, the cost of living, they have essentially allowed somebody else or forced somebody else to raise your children.
i don't know a year and a half two years two years two years so she is gonna i agree and it's only gonna get worse yeah and what's so insane is what's so insane is things have become so bad since the 50s 60s 70s that you saying okay i'm a man she's not gonna work she's gonna stay home raise the kids you know i'm gonna make some money and support my family etc you're now an outsider
You're now a rebel. Right. Certainly in the United States. Yeah. In the United States? Yes. Florida. Yeah, certainly in the United States, you're a rebel. That's not that weird in my part of the world.
But it's funny how the countries are the most advanced...
have advanced
through the traditional family values, in the state of degeneracy, where you are now,
the weirdos. The mother of my child will never ever work again. Why? I love that. I want her. It's not about me trying to oppress her or control her. It's about me wanting her at home with my daughter, raising her and teaching her how to be a good woman because she's a good woman herself.
I said, why on earth would I want her...
away from the child. It's not that I don't want her to work. She can have anything she likes if she asks.
But, um,
Yeah, I'm exactly the same as you. I don't like the idea of anyone else raising my kids besides their parents. Well, and it's the judgment that you get from other women when you are a woman who stays home with your children.
from like the woman who have careers and they go and work and I have a degree I can get a job like that if I wanted to. But it's like, you know, people be like, I don't see how you ever depend on a man I don't see how you could ever not have any ambition. And it's like, who's to say I don't have ambition, I'm raising the next generation.
And that's the most important job in the world. Exactly. More important than my job or your job. More important than anyone's job. And it comes more from women than it does from men, the judgment on that when you're a stay-at-home mom and you don't have a job.
It's, which is kind of bizarre. And I just. The sad part about it is, it's easy when, I mean, you guys look like you're doing well for yourself. And you've got a nice big channel and you're obviously making some money. I'm obviously doing quite well for myself. But.
What makes me very sad is when...
men who perhaps aren't so...
Men who are just hard workers and the world is filled with hard work. Oh, yeah. Men who perhaps are never going to make a million dollars, never going to make thousands and thousands of dollars every week.
guys who just know how to trade their time for money and when guys like that are out there supporting women no one really says their women are oppressed it's like or or or their ambition is halted if you have a guy who's working as a
deep sea fishermen on the Bering Sea all winter, to work as a lumberjack on the Canadian-American border all summer, to clean the streets in his hometown when he's finally home and gets to see his kids,
He's not oppressing his wife.
In no way is he trying to take away her right.
to do something.
He is out there breaking his body, breaking his back, breaking his fucking mind.
for little bits of money to give to her,
So she can support her life and her kids and her family. And maybe she has to cook him a meal when he comes home. And people call her oppressed. Yeah. The men these days are literally
sometimes seen as slaves. They're not allowed to be
um
They're not allowed to be the hero anymore.
No one worships men. No one said no. No one worships masculinity. And men are seen in a family unit. OK, the woman has to maybe cook and clean, but the man better go out and bring that money home and work his job. And when he comes home, the woman can't. He better not tell his wife to do anything for him. He better not tell his wife, you know, we're having sex tonight. And can you make me breakfast tomorrow morning? Because then he's oppressive.
then he's oppressive, but he can go work every week.
And no one's going to care.
No one's going to care if he's okay.
So it's really sad what's happening. And I think you're, I don't know you very well.
But you're very lucky to have a husband like you have.
I think all women who are willing to have men because you know I agree
I've worked hard my whole life. And I think the mother of my child is very lucky to have a man like me in her life who's going to support her for the rest of her days.
because I work hard.
I think that's a very blessed position to be in and in no way can that be attacked.
American women will probably tell you you're oppressed. Oh, they will. If you move to Russia, it's very normal. That's for...
One thing I don't understand is like,
They say, "Oh, she depends on me." I depend on her.
to take care of the seed of our child, to handle everything that way. I depend on her to hold this house together while I try and make us money. So that's the way I see it.
Well, that's a more important job. Yeah. Like, okay, yeah, make a little bit of money. But you can, like, create new people and, like, spend all your time with them, training them and raising them with your values and raising them to be good people. That's more important than making a little bit of money. I couldn't imagine not having, like, little people. How many kids do you have? Two, and then I'm pregnant with our third. So we have two girls and a boy. I'm not going to tell you how many kids I have. I don't talk. You know, I don't talk about how many kids I have.
I was some photos of my daughter Eileen.
were in the hands of the Romanian paparazzi, the Romanian news, and they were going to release this story that I had a daughter of.
So my brother was doing some some messages, farewell message, you know, and he said, you know what? Fuck it. The remaining news are going to release your face anyway. So I said, no, here are some better photos. Release them first. So their story doesn't mean anything.
The name was all over TikTok before it was in the remaining names. But yeah, Eileen is a good name. It's my mother's name. It's a very pretty name. I named her after my mother, who I also completely take care of. And she doesn't feel oppressed either.
And now it's just...
Um,
You two or you have other siblings? It's you and Andrew? We have a sister. Oh, the United States. Okay. We're not out of touch with her. She lives in America. She hasn't lived in the same country as me for nine or 10 years now. She's got her own life. She's got a husband and a son and she lives in a
I'm not going to say this thing. I'm actually super security conscious these days. No, I get it. But nowadays, you never know.
And she's a very happy woman. In fact, she
Ah, okay. I like my sister, but I'm going to tell you something that's related to the point we're talking about. Oh no. That she really lost her mind. I made her angry.
And Janine, if you're watching, I'm sorry for making you angry, but I still meant what I said. And I'm going to reiterate my point for the good people watching this podcast.
So I said, "Janine, you are going to have kids, right?" She goes, "Yeah, I'm going to have three, four, three." I said, "Okay, all things are equal.
You and this man, this hypothetical male lawyer at the same firm as you, doing the same job as you, is equally as talented as you.
One year you're going to progress.
The two you can progress.
year three he's gonna progress year four he's gonna progress
And then year five, you both progress.
You're six, you both progress, you get pregnant again.
That's another year he overtakes you, another year he overtakes you. So I use the line.
You're becoming
a crappier mother so you can also be a crappy lawyer and she got so mad at me i could see why the fact is it takes time to rear and raise children it does just does those are years out of your life
And being a lawyer is one of those careers where you need to be putting the hours in. You need to be working as hard as your competitors to move up in the world.
So I said, look, you're never going to be a great Lord.
because you want to have a family. And if you're spending all your time away from your kids at your fucking law office, then you're not going to be a great mother. Why not just pick one and stick with it? She completely disagrees. And a lot of people watching this completely disagree. But you go out there if you're a lawyer and you have five or six kids, good luck.
And at the end of your career, let's see if you're, you know,
sitting on the
Supreme Court. I don't know where lawyers end up. I don't know the American legal system. Normally it's like judge to Supreme Court. Yeah. Supreme Court. And it's just like, you know, the reason men get there isn't about higher intellect. It isn't about, you know, a better understanding of the law.
It just takes time to have children. It's a real physical hardship on a woman's body and mind.
and they can't concentrate on both at once. So I feel like women who chase careers and try to have a family,
are becoming mediocre versions of what they could be in their career to also be mediocre mothers.
when they could just be great mothers instead.
which is a very controversial opinion. But, um,
It's just...
the sad
way that the world works. That's how human biology works.
and up until a few years ago, certainly how we think it all works out here. Women get pregnant, it takes nine months to rear a child, then she has a few months where she has to stay with the child and, you know, it could take up to two years. Yeah. And if it were the other way around, if it were the other way around and when you procreated, men couldn't work and men couldn't concentrate and men had all this physical hardship on their body, then sure, women would absolutely overtake them in fields like law.
And fields that take the hours and the persistence and the time in the office. And, you know, you'd have a lot more women CEOs, but you just won't ever have them because of that one biological fact, which is inescapable.
confidence, you know, I think you would agree confidence is something that you
have to believe in yourself it can't just be like oh i'm the best to ever do it you have to believe genuinely that you are the most sophisticated biological thing in this universe you are a one in 400 trillion chance to exist you are just as good
as anyone who has ever lived before you and anyone who's going to live ahead of you. You have to believe that. That's my opinion. How do you
admit confidence? What is your
thing that drives you and makes you so confident.
I honestly don't know, but I feel like if I had taken a different path in life, my confidence wouldn't be as high as it is now.
I feel like confidence is something that you can learn. I wasn't ever necessarily a shy person, but I remember being...
I was a teenager once.
too shy to talk to girls. I remember failing my first job interview.
some things that would never happen to me now. And I think it's just the accumulation of failures
and missed chances and missed opportunities.
and and being man enough and being smart enough to say you know what i'm not going to let that happen to me okay i'm too scared to talk to that pretty girl over there at the bar
Last time I stood there and looked at her all night, I went home by myself. Let's not do that anymore. Lots of things. My kickboxing career, knowing how to fight, knowing how to handle myself.
If I was in America, I would be strapped 24 hours a day because that country is crazy. I'd have a gun on my hip at all times. And that's not necessarily because I'm a violent person, but I feel like confidence, you know, you have to be...
Confident that you could take on any situation that may arise out of nowhere.
And I feel like all the things I've done in life have earned me that mindset, earned me that position.
How else should I be? How else could I be? After all the things I've accomplished now,
after going from living in a homeless shelter for three years as a child,
with it being as broke as you can possibly be within a first world country.
to being worth
I mean, God knows how much money I'm working.
I don't even know. I don't even know.
there's different ways of calculating it, but how could I not be confident after all of that?
I think it's accumulation of life experiences.
And it's never too late to start.
It's never too late to get out of your old habits. It's never too late to
Do something positive, hit the gym, lose the weight.
start talking to better people, not just more beautiful women, better people, trying to make better groups of friends, more high value people, networking better. It's never too late to start doing this.
But a lot of people at certain ages
Some people may be as old, maybe as young as their mid-20s,
Some people certainly in their 40s and 50s think, you know what,
I fucked it, I'm just not, I'm never gonna be that guy.
And they surrender themselves to him.
But I don't think there's any reason for people not to be confident. Because if anybody approaches me in the correct manner,
I may well give them the time of day.
Well, you gave us the time today. We had no business getting it. So thank you. You know, I liked your videos. I liked your videos. Thank you. So I only saw a few, but I thought, yeah.
I feel like I feel it's important, especially now, and I appreciate you guys giving me a platform as well. So I feel it's important, especially now for...
for more people in the world.
Because I'm not cancelled, you can't cancel me. I'm going to be everywhere still.
I feel it's important for people with different audiences, different mindsets, and different views to me to actually listen to me speak, and whether they agree with me or disagree with me.
No one's going to come to the conclusion after speaking to you that I'm a dangerous or evil or bad person.
and that I'm bad for the world. Because I don't think I am at all. I think I'm a net positive in the world. And I have my flaws like everybody else.
So I appreciate the pleasure.
Because the type of people watching you, you know, married couples, etc. I don't know what your audience primarily is.
I feel it's important for them to hear someone like me speak.
someone who lives a life that is different from your life.
I'm probably never going to be the monogamous married man.
I'm just being realistic. But yeah, it's really cool that the internet has that power to connect people when people are allowed to speak.
and that we can have this discourse. You certainly did have business getting on. Oh, thank you. Well, I just think we want our audience to understand
that
This world is made up by men and women that are no better or less than anyone. How you live your life, how I live my life, how she lives my life is our right as a human being. As long as we're not harming people, there should be no problem in it. You know, if you're not physically harming people, it's fine. You should be able to say whatever you want.
That's my caveat to it. As long as you're not doing harm to people.
with your actions and you
I mean...
I was going to say with your actions and your words, but I don't believe words are as harmful as people say. They're made up. Especially in the, you know, talking about death wrecks that I receive and all the horrible things people say to me.
Do those things really hurt me? Really? I mean, they don't. It's the old sticks and stones I think.
I don't believe words are harmful. And as much as I'll bring up the topic of race, because I'm a mixed race individual. My father is black, my mother is white.
I
don't even have a problem with letting someone who is, for example, racist have a voice.
because I feel that's important.
Because then we know who the racists are. If someone's saying, I don't like mixed race people and black and white people shouldn't intermarry,
I'm not going to try to shut you up as a mixed race person. I'm going to be like, ah,
So that's this guy's point of view. At least he's not in his underground clubs talking about it, that's firing him. So, you know, he's putting his hand up.
and putting a mark on himself.
And that way you can talk him out of it. Yes. If you don't know that he thinks it, how are you going to convince him that he's wrong?
That's very true. So I'm not even against. I would happily...
platform and sit next to somebody who doesn't believe that interracial couples should exist. I'd happily sit and talk to them as the product of an interracial couple,
Because,
How am I ever going to convince him he's wrong if I don't hear his point of view?
You know, it's interesting too, because I was big on the race thing. I studied some more of the biology thing and head sociologist determined that skin color is a biological difference, just like skin.
jawline, eye color,
Height, Weight
all those things, bone structure, it's all genetic differences. And skin color alone is not a significant genetic difference to determine the human being as separate races. So it's more of a cultural thing. And then that's what, you know, whoever the powers that be want is the cultural division between men and women so that they're fighting each other. And they're not, you know,
making stable homes and you know they're not finding out who the real enemy is. Of course I say it all the time they want poor people arguing. The black billionaire, a Chinese billionaire and a female billionaire all meet in Mexico and their translators insist that they'll translate and speak French. No one's going to sit there.
and say, "Oh, well, I'm not gonna do business with him, he's Chinese. Oh, what's this woman doing in our meeting? What, a black guy?" No one's going to say that ever.
They're all going to sit at the top. They're going to
shake hands, drink their whiskey, high five, make billions of dollars. It's the poor people who they want to buy.
So America is the perfect country to run these kind of experiments. Because America is the only truly...
a multiracial country in the world. The black Americans, like my ancestors, and the white Americans, like your ancestors, arrived there at the same time.
for different reasons, of course.
And, you know, it's a mixing pot of races and cultures. And it's the perfect place for rich people and the people who really run the world. And I'm not going to say any names, but the people who really want to control everybody.
to say, "Oh, you know, white people, black people are your enemy. Oh, Latinos are your enemy, actually, white people. You know, oh, Koreans and Chinese people, they're out competing you in X, Y, and Z." And to keep the poor people fighting, it's very easy to do. You can't do that in a country like
The Gambia, for example, which is the blackest country in the world, with 99.8% of people black.
You can't convince Gambians.
that you know that
that
that Mexicans are the enemy.
because Gambia is an ethnically black country. And the one thing I like about Romania as well as Romanians
Romanian's
Don't mind their government taking the piss out of them a little bit.
Every once in a while, and it's happened even in recent memory,
They'll go and protest in the center and they'll kick their government off.
Because everyone's united behind one front. You can't turn Romanians against other Romanians.
It doesn't really work.
so um...
I think that's a pretty sad thing about the United States that
the weakness that they see in us.
um
as the son of an African American and as the ancestor of white Americans as well,
I think like it's such an easy,
like distraction to throw at the lower classes and the working class people. And it just makes me sick that they get away with it all the time.
They get away with it. They divide the populace. It makes me genuinely upset. Yeah, I definitely do not like how divided we are. Especially, I don't watch CNN, Fox News. I don't watch any of it. I don't want to be involved in it. I don't want my brainwashed. And I just try to focus on, like I said, what's in front of me, my friends and family and improving myself. And I think that's just the best way to go about life.
So just to change the topic a little bit, how do you balance
You know, the fun, the work and being a father, what are what are some things that you do to like, you know, you're like, hey, this happens to me. Sometimes I'm like, I'm focused too much on this. Let me go play with the kids for a little bit. How do you feel about stuff like that?
I feel the easiest way to answer that is, one, I don't sleep very much. So that's a life hack. I sleep about five, six hours a night.
which is less than the average person. It's why I have time to work out and do the things I do.
But one of the--
major factors behind it is I make sure that there's nothing that I do
that I don't enjoy. I enjoy my work. I enjoy sitting in the office with my brother.
I enjoy my nights out, I enjoy seeing my daughter, I enjoy
training in the gym because I enjoy everything about my life.
And even if it's stressful, and even if it's tiring, I feel privileged that I'm allowed
and able and in a position to be able to do those things,
that I miss
everything if I don't do enough of it.
Nothing feels like an obligation in my life. Nothing feels like a burden. I'll never do anything I don't want to do.
I don't sit here thinking...
Oh, I haven't seen Eileen in...
three days off, I have to go see her. I like going to see her. I haven't been doing enough work. I better catch up with work. I like doing my work.
So, you know, when you enjoy everything you do,
you're in a very privileged position, but even if your life isn't
I guess, as enjoyable as mine.
People...
focus too much on the bad. People will go home every day from work and go, no, I don't want to see my wife today. And they'll argue with your wife. They'll argue with their wife, forgetting that they were once so in love that they decided to commit their entire lives to each other.
They forget the good. They forget the good things and they don't appreciate them enough.
My happiness and my fulfillment and my ability to balance everything
comes from how happy I am to do all of the things that I do.
Why would I...
Why would I?
you know want to miss out on anything so i must must find a way to balance them and i must find a way to do enough
of all of them because I miss them if I don't do them.
And that's my life.
And it doesn't matter what my job is.
Now, I mean, I worked very hard, but now my office is in my house. I can wake up in my underwear, stroll down to my office chair, and sit there smoking cigars with my brother while I'm at the office computer making.
insane amounts of money, but I had the same attitude
when I was a traveling salesman. I used to work at McDonald's. I worked in fast food. I had the same attitude. I used to go to work. I had all my friends there. Used to laugh and joke. I used to work the drive through window, try and flirt with women, whatever. I was only 18.
I enjoyed everything that I was doing because I felt happy
that I was able to do it, because there are a lot of people in the world
nowhere near as, as, as, uh,
as
fortunate as me. And that includes the 18-year-old boy who's able-bodied and strong, who's working at a McDonald's restaurant for seven pounds an hour.
I mean, nowadays I wouldn't want to do that anymore. Even then I understood that I was a very lucky person because I've seen poverty.
And I've seen hopelessness, and I've seen hopelessness.
And I've seen drug addiction. I've seen it all. I come from a horrible town. You want to Google Luton. It's one of the
the least, I think it's one of the worst town in England to live in seven times out in the last 10 years. So I've seen all the bad, so I just,
I love everything too much.
And it sounds like such a cheesy answer. No, that's great. It's a great way to look at things. Did you feel that you were...
always the man you are right now.
Like it didn't matter you were poor and low finances, all that. You knew that you would be here one day because
your person, who you are, your belief? Yes. In short, yes. But I also didn't know the...
I thought there were bigger limits to my power. Myself and my brother and the unit that we formed from being kids together.
I didn't understand how powerful that brotherhood and that friendship was. And I didn't understand where it could take us.
Because I knew one day I'd do well and I'd have a nice house and a nice car.
enough money to spend
But I think that from where I was, I couldn't see the top of the mountains I'm on now.
I saw some hills in the distance.
And it wasn't until I climbed those that I got to see the next mountain.
But I always believed in us.
A classic example I gave is that my dream car when I was
20 years old was a BMW Z4.
A BMW Z Vesca, a $50,000 sports car. It's quite nice. And it's still a respectable car now. You're a full grown man and that's the car you drive.
you're doing okay with that. But that was my dream car.
Now when I drive past one of them, you know, $5 million Bugatti, I smile to myself thinking,
I thought that was like
the limit of my power,
So I knew I was going to get somewhere.
But I was simply in such a
It was before the internet was around as such. It was before Instagram was around. I didn't know where there was to go.
So I never saw myself getting here because I didn't know this existed. Yeah. How old are you?
34. Oh, same age. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I, I definitely agree with that sentiment. So,
Your father was a chess grandmaster, right?
He was. In fact, I will say he was not a chess grandmaster. He was an international master, which is the one rank below grandmaster.
The reason he was not a Grandmaster, because although he defeated
hundreds of Grandmasters in very famous games across the world,
Being a chess grandmaster takes a certain level of
If you Google the term GM norm,
in your spare time. You have to win certain tournaments at certain times. And the people who are able to do this are usually people with sponsorship behind them.
The Russian government sponsored a lot of Grandmasters, the first black Grandmaster of all time.
was a friend and then a rival of my father's Maurice Ashley, who's Jamaican, and he was sponsored by the Jamaican government to go play chess.
My father had absolutely no money, three kids.
He was once, I remember as a kid, working at a car wash.
with his giant brain and all of his accolades to try and put food on the table.
He didn't have the sponsorship behind him to make these tournaments.
to become,
a Grandmaster. So he was never a Grandmaster. The Fido Federation, there was a petition
to make him a Grand Master hostessly after he died,
And me and my brother said, no, don't do that.
because that would ruin the story of his life.
And next year when I buy a
Sunseeker 133 Megayacht. You can Google how much they cost. I'm on the market for one. I'm going to name it.
the international mess.
to his credit. He was the greatest international master of chess that ever lived.
Hands down.
No one ever became as good as him without becoming a winner.
So, I'm gonna put that story out there because I say Grandmaster, he wasn't actually a Grandmaster, even though his rating
Merited it and all of the opponents who defeated Merited it, he was never officially made a opponent.
He was very smart. Did he teach you some good things? I mean, do you accredit your success to his teachings at times? Or is it more just your...
failures and life lessons.
A little bit of both? - I don't know, 100%. My father was a massive part of why me and my brother were successful.
But then again,
Although,
And I love her, and she's going to hate me for saying this. Although I definitely do get my intellect from my father's side, my mother was equally as important. I mean, there are the lessons my father taught me about how to be a man, but why did I eat three square meals a day?
You know, as broke as we were, even living in a homeless shelter, three square meals were cooked and prepared for me every single day. My clothes were always clean. My clothes were always washed up.
I showed up to school looking like all the other kids despite being, you know, from a
despite being impoverished, because my mother,
is a very good woman. She knew exactly how to keep a home.
And nowadays I read all these articles.
And I hope not to. You know what? I'm going to offend some people. I offend people every time I talk. So I have no I have no problem with offending people. I read all these articles nowadays.
In 2022.
about people in England, the United Kingdom, with a strong social system,
the system that helped raise me and my brother,
with parents and
women saying, you know what, I can't afford to feed my kids. I've got three kids and the government has us on the poverty line. And you know, lots of times my kids are going without food. And we have to go to food banks and rely on charities.
I completely disagree. I don't think that's anything to do with the state of England getting any worse. The state of England has gotten worse in some ways, of course, but the economical state of England has not got so bad that women on the social housing system can't afford to feed their kids. What it is, is these women are posting things about not being able to feed their kids on the newest 1000 pound iPhone, smoking cigarettes that cost 25 pounds a packet. My mother never had a cell phone. My mother never smoked. She never went out with her friends. She was solely dedicated.
to raising her three children.
I think
we had
And this was a good--
25
years ago, this is a long time ago.
Well, my mother was at one point, she got 310 pounds a month, which is like $400 a month. And I know things were a bit cheaper back then.
She still had the time to take us to
karate classes on a Sunday, for example.
for a few pounds. We got zero pocket money,
I couldn't even go in the fridge and eat something.
out of the fridge because my mother would be like nope that's for thursday's dinner that's how
planned it was. And that's the importance of a mother. And that's the importance of someone who keeps a very good house.
So,
I do feel that...
In a lot of interviews, I give a lot of credit to my father. And absolutely, he taught me how to be a man. He taught me a lot of the most important lessons I know in life.
But why was I fed? Why were my clothes clean?
The fact that I was taken to karate lessons every Sunday
as an 8, 9, 10 year old and then I found kickboxing and became the European kickboxing champion
That's not.
my father is doing.
I would say that was my mother's deal.
So you don't have to be a chess grandmaster genius to have a positive impact on your children's lives.
My mother was the backbone of our family.
And, you know, I love it. And now she flies around in private jets to take any vacation anywhere in the world she likes. And I bought a new car because she earned it. Right. She deserved this. This is what the social system in the United Kingdom is supposed to be for the social system.
A lot of Americans disagree with it.
a lot of American kind of Republican capitalists, but a social system can work very well if it works properly.
If you have a woman who is British with three British kids,
who paid British taxes most of her teenage years in early life.
suddenly find herself in a very hard situation.
If you house them in a homeless shelter, then give them somewhere to live.
then give them enough money to eat.
and enough money to stay alive and not end up homeless or in some sort of children's center. I believe that a good mother, a smart mother can raise her kids to become successful, smart individuals. I don't want to tell you how much tax I've paid, but I, you know, when I was certainly with some of the things I do in England, I pay more tax back in a single two week period than was ever given to me.
So this is how social systems should work.
and they should be repaid in full by
the kids who get raised to be responsible tax paying citizens
and everyone should win.
But social systems are abused.
They're abused by people who don't want to work.
They're abused by people who aren't necessarily from that country and not deserving of the taxpayer's money. They're abused so viciously
that people end up standing up and saying, you know what, I'm against giving
Women who you know broke up with their husbands free housing because they made their choice. I disagree completely I stand up for the social system because I know the power of it and
when it's done correctly. But you need good women to do that. You don't need women chain-smoking cigarettes and trying to feed their kids from McDonald's and running out of money because they are irresponsible because they're getting drunk every weekend.
You need women who are good homekeepers and good housekeepers who know how to sew buttons onto clothing, basic shit like that. If you don't have women like that, it's going to fail. She doesn't know how to sew. I can figure it out. I could figure it out. My mom needs to sew my pants and fix them. I'm like, I can. I'm going to.
So back to...
Talking about just being a mother, one of my biggest worries or concerns or just more importance is just the impact I have on my children. And so I have two daughters, but I have no idea...
when it comes to raising a son. So what do you think is like the most important virtue or aspect or most important thing your mom taught or did for you as a man that I could help my son become a
successful or is that my place or is that his father's place? What, you know, if you understand where I'm getting that.
I would. I would say maintain the healthiest relationship with his father that you can. Okay. Show his father respect and show him how women should treat men. And you, again, have to show...
him how men should treat women.
I think that it's very, very important. So I think the best thing you can do is, you know,
mothers have done this for 200 and
50,000 years without fault and it seemed to work so far now. You don't need to know how to be a man. You don't need to learn how to be masculine. You don't need to hold boxing pads for him and teach him how to throw his first punch. But you do have to create a home that's welcoming enough and nice enough
That makes the father always think, you know what? I want to be home. I love being home. I love spending time with my kids. So he'll be around your son.
So that's what I would say your role is. Pardon me for intruding, but you did ask. So –
What about Hustlers University? Because, you know,
I want to empower men and women in any way possible for financial freedom. And from what I've heard about Hustler University is that it has a lot of good stuff in it.
What can you tell us about that?
Well, Hostage University is actually a very simple program. It's very simple, but it would not have been possible to build without the network that myself and my brother had created for the five years running up to the launch of Hostage University.
It's essentially
18 millionaires.
who we verified as millennials, and most we knew personally at the time,
They were members of our war room.
We invited and interviewed everybody.
And he said, look guys, I know you guys are rich.
You're already rich.
But I'm Tristan Tate.
and my brother is, let's not say his name, but on your podcast, then we guarantee you that if we put this program together, it's going to do well. So all the professors get paid, they get paid a percentage of how big the company is.
So what you have to understand is I had multi-millionaires.
for months working for
500,
dollars a week.
working their asses off.
teaching people their particular way of wealth creation.
a stock trader, a crypto professional, an affiliate marketing guy, a guy who runs Amazon eShopps, and they were teaching people.
Lessons.
for next to nothing.
They had the faith in myself.
to help me launch this program.
So all it is,
is a very simple system. Right now, if you're a young man and you pick up your phone,
How many millionaires are talking to you? How many millionaires are teaching you how to make money? How many millionaires are giving you business advice and lessons per day?
0 million.
Whereas if you join the Hustlers University, you will have a team.
18 millionaires.
teaching 18 different ways of modern world careers.
And all the stuff that's been said about it, the program is still going.
absolutely wonderful. It's still going very very strong. The number of students is
is growing, you know,
month on month. It surpassed what I
thought the program would peak at.
even after his first couple months.
So it's a really wonderful program.
And, you know, if you're a guy in
You're working a nine to five like I used to, working fast food perhaps,
You want the tuition of people who are millionaires. You want the ability to be able to ask them questions.
to speak to them.
Maybe you're interested in running your own Amazon web store, whatever it is you're doing.
For $49, you now get access to all those millionaires.
which is,
I think a very unique
thing.
It's very unique because when I was young, anyone who I ever met with money,
I would spend my last money
to take a train from Luton down to London,
Because my dad had played chess with some millionaire in some tournament who liked my dad.
And I go there and hang out with this guy. His name is Andrew, actually, this guy at the casino, and just pick his brain.
Just asking questions, using the last of my money.
And I had to do it in a way that this guy didn't think I was trying to learn from him. I had to do it in a way that...
He thought I was just hanging out. Oh, let me buy you a drink.
I spent my last 20 pounds buying this band of training. I'm not eating lunch for a week. And that's the reality that I build.
So the fact that I'm now empowering young men to have this in their pocket, quite literally, the access to all these different millionaires and all these different lessons is...
is the reason the program is successful.
It's the reason the hate can't stop it.
Well, the thing is...
You keep saying young men. So let's say a woman doesn't want to have children.
Do you have any women in Hustlers University? Women are allowed in Hustlers University. Anyone. The main demographic of my audience is young men. Therefore, the main demographic in the Hustlers University program.
our young men.
And also, young men are the ones who I feel like
in this society, there's a big burden on it.
a big burden for performance. Nice. So as I've listened to you throughout this podcast, one thing that I think that you would agree on
based on the stories you told me, that life is essentially a game of position.
how you position yourself with others,
how you position yourself with the resources that you have and how you capitalize on them. You know, almost like in a game of poker, it doesn't matter what hand you get. You have to play it to the best of your ability and position yourself in a way to succeed. And I think that young men and women in our society lack the ability to position themselves. I don't think that they're taught.
proper
behavior and understanding of the world around them to position themselves you know
And that's one thing I wanted to have you on here is because you're a very successful man. You know, we aren't as financially successful, but I, you know, I look at, like I say, Elon Musk, and I don't I don't think he's not my equal. You know what I mean? He doesn't seem.
Like he's got a lot more money than me.
A couple pennies or two. But I feel like I have a same strategic mind in positioning myself on social media with my wife and my family and the success that we've gained. And I think that
that's one thing that I want to bring to the table with this podcast is bring in men and women like yourself that, that know about positioning themselves and growing, you know, you're brought up about the woman smoking cigarettes and drinking and not being able to feed their kids. If you are in the United States of America and you can't find food,
You are not very creative. You know, there's expiring food available online.
every gas station on the corner. You know, Papa John's has extra pizzas. It throws away at 10 o'clock at night. You can find it. And if you're not finding it, yeah, I did too. So, you know, I've been down a little low before and, um,
I think that you can succeed...
in this country a lot easier than other places but you know it's about positioning.
Yeah, and it's not just positioning. It's also your poker analogy was a very good one.
Because I think what's lacking also in people
men and women is the lack of ability to even see the cards in their hand. Some people will have aces up their sleeve,
and have no idea.
Throw them away. Fold their hands.
And some people,
will have a 7 and a 2 off suit.
While the whole draw is kings and queens.
Yeah, I'm the man.
I'm the man anyway.
A big example I give is smoking cigars.
Because lots of young men and guys, if you're watching, stop doing this. They take photos of themselves. They're 18. Cigar in their mouth.
Selfie.
Here.
They upload to Instagram. They tag me and they're like, "Look, I'm like Tristan Tate."
And I'm like, you think the cigar makes me me? Like in what universe are you living that you think putting a cigar in your face makes you me? I didn't smoke my first tobacco product.
till I was 28 years old.
And you've got 19-year-olds stuffing cigars in their face saying, I'm like Tristan Tate.
These are people with a complete lack of understanding of the cards they actually have in their hands.
They've got nothing.
and they're they're betting big trying to show off on instagram trying to tap trying to like rub shoulders with me i'm like in what universe
Am I gonna message you? Yeah, bro, you're so cool. Yeah, like zero percent chance, less than zero percent chance. So yeah.
It's not just about playing the hand you're dealt.
It's about looking at your cards and knowing what the fuck you have in the first place. There's some people with everything going for themselves.
I saw a guy, um...
the other day.
in Dubai.
And my friend Justin, I was with Justin, when we saw this guy walking, we said, you know what, that guy has wasted...
his genetics. He was about 30 years old.
Six foot seven.
Wide shoulders
Really skinny, no muscle.
Hot belly. Not a beer belly.
hot belly from never doing a single day's physical training in his life, hunchback
And I thought, can you imagine if this guy just, you know,
did a bit of boxing or football practice or weightlifting his whole life can you imagine what
more imposing person he'd be.
Put him in a nice suit. He's six foot six. Big, terrifying guy. Not even terrifying, but imposing. Certainly, he'd walk into the room and people would be like, yeah.
that's a guy I want to talk to.
But he's wasted his hand.
He spent his whole life sitting there playing video games.
He's got this hunched over. He'd walk into the room and nobody will know it.
as giant as he was.
Maybe he was six or seven. He was a tall dude. So yeah, a lot of guys can't even identify
What cards are they?
And that's the saddest part.
And that's something I try to help young men with as well.
Some guys, oh, how can I be like you?
And truthfully,
Not everyone can be like I can't be like them. That's the magic of being human. Everybody's different. Everybody has different potentials and
But I believe anyone can...
make a wonderful life for themselves, especially if you're fortunate enough to be born in a first or second world country.
Absolutely. Very cool.
The only true wasted potential in the world exists right now in third world countries, where people who could be our greatest doctors and inventors don't get the chance of having an education. That's the true wasted potential of the world.
If you're in the first world,
and you're sitting around wasting your life
and you want to complain on the internet, complain to me or complain to you,
You can't get a wife. You can't have a family. You can't make some money.
Whose fault is that but your own?
And you're completely correct. Yeah. There has to be some accountability. You know, I take blame for everything that fails in my life, even if it's not my fault. You know, there's something there's analogy. Another one of my father gave me is like, if you're sitting at a red light.
and you get rear-ended, that's your fault.
And he asked that, why? You know, he said, you're supposed to be looking in your rear mirror. You're supposed to move out of the way. You're supposed to be aware. Every 10 seconds, you look in that rear mirror, you know, and I got in a motorcycle accident about 10 years after that.
A lady pulled out, ran a light, hit me. That's my fault.
My headlight was pointing at the ground a little bit. She might not have seen me. I should have known that there's a possibility she's going to pull out.
I should have been aware. And obviously people are like, "Oh, it's not your fault."
Everything's your fault.
It was a female driver.
It's funny because it was the details of your story. I'm not insinuating it. It was an 18 year old female.
It's funny. I don't find myself a misogynist or sexist or anything. I've always wanted to touch on this because I remember there was an interview with XQC.
Trying to say that these statistics, women are...
safe drivers for the most part. They're very conservative in how they drive. They also hold up traffic and they get in my way. I'm in the fast lane.
and I'm speeding,
You should get out of the way. I'm passing. Well, here's the funny thing. Whenever I found myself in this debate –
Because I've always said I believe men are better drivers. I've said that and I'll say it again. I'll say it for, you know, until the day I die. Because I personally believe that. I do too. If someone thinks I'm wrong, if someone thinks women are better drivers, good for them. They're allowed to think I'm wrong. That's the whole point.
But when I say better drivers, everyone comes at me with,
Accident statistics. Oh well, you know crashes and insurance companies and blah blah blah.
But there's a statistic that they haven't thought about.
And I'm going to bless this podcast. This is the first time I've spoken about this publicly. When I say they are better drivers,
It is widely acknowledged that Lewis Hamilton is the best driver in the world, correct? Why? He's the Formula One world champion. He wins all the Formula One races. He's the best driver in the world.
Now, does Lewis Hamilton crash the...
more than the average man or woman on the street. Yeah, well, yeah, he does, because he's a Formula One driver. But the point of
being a good driver,
is the ability to excel at driving. Now, did you also know
That Formula One, the premier racing league in the entire world,
has no
male and female section.
It is a mixed male and female sport.
And of the 700, but please correct me if I'm wrong, anyone who's watching this.
Of the 771 Formula One drivers in the entire history of the sport,
five have been made.
and the rest of them.
So there's a statistic.
Let's forget the accidents. Let's forget the crashes. If you really want to get nerdy and talk about statistics, which I don't, by the way. I'm just talking about my own personal beliefs.
and my own personal experience
uh experience i believe that men are driving but if you really want to get nerdy and look at statistics
The best driving federation in the world that houses the best drivers in the world.
of which the champion of this federation is always referred to as the best driver on earth, is a mixed male and female sport.
771 drivers
five minutes.
So there's a statistic right now that's in shock. I mean, I can't talk because I've totaled two cars.
I will also say this as well. Most men are bad drivers.
Oh yeah. So I am a
I'm a great driver.
But I've also done 150 miles an hour in STI. You know what I'm saying? I rode go-karts growing up. I rode dirt bikes. I have experience. If you take anything, 50% of people are below average, aren't they? Yes. People.
So I always say, like, oh, these guys are dumb, that guy's dumb. You can't call people dumb. 50% of people are below average intelligence.
That's the way intelligence works. That's the way driving ability works. 50% of all people are below average drivers. I've seen men do stupid things on the road. I've seen women do stupid things on the road.
My personal
experiences that men are superior drivers. If I have a girlfriend and it gets really rainy or really snowy or you know, there's a hard parking spot, I'll jump in the driver's seat, I will, because I myself am a fantastic driver.
You wouldn't be alive with my car collection on the roads I drive on if you weren't a very good driver.
Literally. So, yeah, I'm a very good driver, but I don't even like breaking it down to statistics. I believe that someone is free to say to me, I think women are better drivers than men.
And I go,
Well, okay. That's fine that you think that.
I don't want to break it down to an argument. If you did, there are statistics to support, I guess, both sides, depending on how you want to look at it.
But I don't care.
I don't know why that should be in the argument.
So Caitlin, if it was snowing and raining, you'd want me to drive, right?
You drive anyway. But I'm saying like if it was raining really bad, you would want me to drive, right?
Yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I could see the yes on the end of her phone. She doesn't want to say that. But I'll say...
Our car has this thing, like it has like a, if you get too close, it'll break for you. I never set that off and he sets it off all the time. Well, it's dumb. I can get close to a car and get in, you know, I can do it. I know what I'm capable of. That system is built for the, that system is built for the same reason speed limits exist. They're not built for the people. It's not built for the people who are wonderful drivers. Built for women. Some of my cars have collision warnings and when I'm driving fast, the collision warning goes off all the time.
S63 AMG
It has a great computer system. It believes if you're coming up
too fast behind a vehicle that, you know, is driving too slow. It believes you're going to hit it. Right. I will drive that car around town and the collision warning will go off 10 times. Have I ever crashed it? No. So that system is built
for the people who are the lowest common denominator. If you're actually good at driving, that system could go up as much as you can. Yes.
I totally agree. Yeah. So, but, but if someone were to say, you know, they believe women are better drivers, I don't think that they should be canceling. Yeah. I think this goes back to the things you're saying about words, you know, people, people, people need to raise their children to not put so much emotional value on words. You know, you need to take things for what they are and get the job done. So, you know, someone dying, you don't think about a joke and name calling and it's the whole sticks and stones. I break my bones saying, I totally agree.
We made these words up.
We made them up. The people that made them up, they didn't even have the internet. You know what I mean? They don't know what's going on. They just made up a dialogue and how you use it.
Thank you.
can be however you use it but people need to stop putting so much emotional weight
on those words that you say. That's another person's opinion.
it should not affect you this much. You need to work on your self-control
That's the way I see it. I think Jordan Peterson, I don't know if you know who he is or not, he was also one that was taken off Twitter because he expressed his opinion about a very valid thing.
You know, I don't want to get into it too much, but, you know,
It's tough. Isn't that sad that we can't even talk about it now? So going back to what you said, you said you don't have a university degree, but you are obviously a very successful man. So do you think that...
College is...
necessary then to become successful. Like, no, no.
To become financially successful, intelligence is, but an education isn't. My father used to say you can buy an education, but you cannot buy intelligence.
I don't know how many.
Like my brother's not a big reader. He's a consumer of, he understands world politics, history very, very well.
But he's not a big reader of books. I, I guess, am more so than my brother.
But it's not that...
I stopped learning at 16.
You have to understand that some of the most educated people in the world have no letters after their name. There are people.
who you've never heard of, who have probably no money, or they may be very, very wealthy.
who have left school at 1516, like I do,
and educated themselves.
They don't have a university stamp of approval, but when you speak to them, you know this is a man
who knows the way the world works. And this is a man with a vast understanding of any topic I engage him in conversation on.
Now that's my education.
I believe that
education.
is a very big part of becoming successful in any field, but that isn't necessarily education that you get from university.
There are lessons that life can teach you. And right now we live in a world where all of the world's information can be accessed from the power of your hand at any time. People may use this device to look at stupid...
cat videos and they may waste the device's potential
But when I'm driving, I like listening to audiobooks.
Why? Because I just enjoy it.
I don't do things I don't enjoy.
University education.
used to be, like with everything, scarcity brings value. And in the 1940s and 50s and 60s, in people's parents and our grandparents' generation, a university degree was a one-way ticket to a great job that was going to pay off your mortgage and get you a house and give you the ability to raise your family. I believe that those opportunities exist in the world.
massively outside of the educational system. You can't become a doctor or a lawyer without a law degree and a medical degree and that's the way it should be and good. Everyone needs doctors and everyone needs lawyers.
but
Just in terms of making money, I don't believe going to university to study business, for example, is necessarily going to make you a good businessman because you're learning from people who don't run businesses.
If you go to the average university, forget Harvard, forget Yale,
If you go to the average university and look at the faculty parking lot,
you won't see a single car over $50,000.
So you have poor people who don't run businesses, teaching other poor people
how to be businessmen, and everyone leaves with their business degree.
And all it does is make them slightly more employable to the people who actually had the balls to go and run businesses. People like me. I employ. I don't know how many people with...
degrees. I honestly don't know how many people with degrees I employ.
25, 30, 40, a lot.
You're sure?
And I don't have one myself, so I don't believe it's necessary. No, not at all.
But I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing.
I mean, why would I? Why would studying a certain subject, whether it be marine biology or business or learning how to do accounting books, why would that be a bad thing?
I believe that as long as you're working on multiple facets of your life at the same time, and not putting all your eggs in one basket and all your money on one horse, this university degree is going to make me rich. As long as you don't have that mindset.
There's nothing wrong with it.
But I won't be sending my kids.
And if they really wish to go for whatever reason, we're going to have a very serious conversation about it.
but I'm not going to
pressure my kids to get any sort of higher education because how could I?
I'm literally walking, talking proof.
but you do not need higher education to become a multi multi-millionaire.
- Awesome.
Yeah, you know,
to pressure your kids into stuff. It's funny you say that. This boy right here,
His name is Aurelius Mark.
after Marcus Aurelius. Marcus Aurelius. Yeah. And my dad's famous Mark. So he's gonna have a little pressure on him about being an emperor and such.
I feel like that's good pressure. Right? I was looking at your Instagram a couple weeks ago and I seen one with you in the reign of the sword and I was like, you know what?
People would make fun of me if I did that. And people have made fun of me a lot in life. But if I had millions of dollars, no one's going to say a word about that picture. And that's what I was thinking about. It would look badass. I wouldn't necessarily say it's the...
it's the millions of dollars.
I would say that I have been, for a lot of my life, a warrior. I believe that, and you obviously like Roman history, and I do too. We can go down the rabbit hole, because I love it. My favourite battle of all time, my second favourite battle of all time is the
battle of watling street which was fought in england was very one side anyway let's not get into that but i believe that the the photo of me with the sword
I looked like a warrior because I'm built like a warrior because I was in fact a warrior for most of my life. Yeah, the gladiatorial games no longer exist.
People are no longer fighting the swords, but you know,
to get in there after 10 weeks trading for $100
and face another man your size. People get hurt all the time. They die all the time. My nose has been broken three times. I've broken ribs. It's a very dangerous thing to do.
So I would say the fact that I'm a warrior is why no one would necessarily laugh at a pitcher. But,
People still laugh at that. And I like the picture. I like it.
And I don't care who laughs.
It's fine by me.
That's been my biggest thing to overcome being on the internet like this is just like worrying about
what other people have to say.
about me i know and it's it only has the bigger we get the worse it gets people will come at you the way you can say one little tiny thing about how you parent your kids and you're the worst parent ever and oh no absolutely and it's just bizarre oh and it gets it gets dark oh i hope your kids get taken away from you yeah your dead father's in hell now rolling in his grave like it gets really dark you're like who raised you if you're gonna if you're gonna do this you need to
need to but for sure
It's good because the more popular you get,
the less it means. There was probably a time maybe 10 years ago, where someone wrote something on my comment section,
I had 2,000 followers, maybe eight years ago.
2,000 followers or 1,000 followers.
And people would write aggressive things on my...
comment section oh you think you're all this and that because you just put a nice car fuck you
And I'd engage with them.
And I'd be like, well, actually,
You do get over it very quickly.
and you will get over it very quickly, especially given the size of your channel.
Because the volume of hate, especially after having someone like me, you're going to get
hundreds of messages.
You can't read them all. I don't look at the comment section of my pictures. People think I'm going to spend 25 minutes of my day
typing out a really long, really aggressive message that's going to upset Tristan Tate. What they don't understand is,
I will never read their message. I've just stolen 25 minutes of their life that they will never get back.
And the message will never be read.
There will be other people in my comment section arguing with that person
telling them that they're wrong. I don't need to engage. You know, as the hate comes in,
faster and thicker and you realize that none of it does any damage to you it's just easily brush it
I don't care what people say.
And people say the worst shit in the world. Oh my God, yeah. Yeah. Especially the ones who don't have the profile picture, too. Of course. As them, they'll be like, I hope your baby dies. You're like, what the fuck? Yeah, exactly. But let me tell you why those messages are a compliment.
So this is going to fuck with me.
So let's say, yeah, I hope your baby dies because I've had that one. So you might get that one.
So the fact that there's this old adage,
It's better to be feared than respected.
And I don't necessarily agree with that, but I like, you know, the idea that no one has ever said these things to my face.
is a testament to who I am.
People fear me. People are not going to come up to myself and my brother. I'm six foot four. He's six foot three.
We're, you know, we're big men. I'm 110 kilograms.
No one's going to come up to me and say, hey, man, I hope your baby dies. That's never going to happen in a million years.
So when it comes from an anonymous profile that they've newly created, they've gone out of their way to spend their time and their energy to stay anonymous to make sure I don't know who they are.
To say it,
I don't read the message. I read the profile. I'm like, ah,
You fear me.
This is good. I don't care that you don't respect me. You've just complimented me.
By making this new profile, deleting all the activity on the account, not following anyone besides me so I don't find out who your family members are, you fear me to the point where you don't want to say anything negative.
If there's a chance, I'll find out who you are.
Thanks for the compliment. And I won't even reply. I like that. It will make me smile. So those messages are a compliment if you know where to look. You have to read between the lines. Right.
That's a good way to look at it. I agree. I like that. For sure. It used to eat me up. Now it doesn't near as much because like you said, it comes more and you get the attention. You're like, I don't need whatever. And all they want is a reply. Yes. All they want is a reply. Yes. They want you to keep going.
So yeah, it's going to bother you a lot less. And you're probably going to get some for having me on this podcast. I'm going to ask you a question, because this is the first, I guess, episode of your live interview podcast. I'm flattered to be honest against you.
I have questions for you that I could answer myself, but I'm curious on your take. Oh, yeah. You have daughters, and you live... Which city do you live in? No, no, you can't tell. State?
Sorta.
Florida. Okay, you're looking forward in the United States. Now,
I hang out in Florida in the United States. Mm-hmm.
What is, to put this in a very polite way,
What is your strategy?
to prevent the negative aspects of Florida culture.
from
infecting your kids? We have obviously been blessed with a position to where we can raise our children. We are very selective on their school.
Adeline is four years old and she's in a STEM-based. Yeah, she's in a science, technology, engineering-based, very prestigious preschool for VPK. But we're still honestly even deciding if we want to do public school because that's where the corruption comes into play most of the time anyway, especially in America. Right. But I actually really haven't.
have the opportunity to deal with that because they're so young. Yeah. I mean, and when I think about it, I'm like, Oh, my God, like, when they become teenagers, what am I going to do? But I had my parents are still together. They're great. Everything I am is because of them. So a lot of what they have taught me and everything really instills in my children. Obviously, I put a twist on it because there's some things I'm like, why'd you do that? I'm not gonna do that with my kids.
But
When it comes to my girls, I just worry so much about like...
them focusing on
boys, for example, instead of like, just being a good person, and being a good woman and all of that. But I think that the main thing I'm going to try to do is just be the example myself, because I'm,
how else are they going to learn?
I can tell them all I want to be like this, but if I'm like something else, they're going to be like, well, why would I be like this? Because you're not. Children do as you do. Sometimes I take advantage of how much I am in my kid's life. We're there when they wake up, when they go to sleep, they hardly ever see anyone else. We're the most influential people in their life, and it's rare. And we do have the roles in our family. She's the caregiver. She takes care of – I change diapers on a rare occasion type thing.
saying? Just when she can't or she's out of the house, I'm always in my room trying to grow our...
thing you know and she's the one that's in there wiping their nose and taking care of them and you know and i believe that's a very healthy way to raise a family i myself i will say this publicly i have never changed a diaper i have more kids
and I don't plan to ever do that. It's fine. It's a very important part of raising kids, obviously. But so is keeping bread on the table and keeping the roof open. I feel like that's what I'm good at.
I don't want to mess up my suit.
So as a dad, what's like the most important thing that you think you can teach your daughter specifically? Like a dad to a daughter, what's the most important thing?
The most important thing that I'm good so my daughter is very young. She turns two in November. She's still very young. But um, my
Number one
And it's not something I need to, I mean, she's just saying, she's just learning to speak. Right. First sentences together. So it's not something that I could teach as of yet. But I think the most important thing that I am going to teach is that
especially the way I've set my life up.
Um,
I don't believe women need to struggle like men do. I'm not going to, like, my son's going to have a much harder life than my daughter's going to have. But I don't have a son.
When I have sons, they're going to have a much harder life than my daughter.
So my daughter's going to have a relatively easy life, but she's going to understand fully
that this easy life comes from the fact that
Her mother chose a wonderful man.
and that she is a member of
my family. I'm the head of the family. I'm the man. I make the money. I pay the bills. I buy you shoes and bags and whatever it is you want when you're a teenage girl. That's me.
And I'm happy to do that.
Because you are a member of my family.
I will teach my daughters that when they're looking at prospective boyfriends, people say, oh, you're going to lock your daughters up and not let them. No, no, no. I'm not some sort of reader. I'm going to teach them.
that in their lives, as they look at prospective boyfriends,
They need to think, is my quality of life going to change if I leave my dad's family?
and join this guy's family and create one with him. He's now going to be the head of the household. He's now going to be
the Alpha and the Omega. He's going to be the... Write that down.
He's going to be the man who takes care of you. Do I...
think this man is up to the job my dad has done.
Because if my daughter at 18 years of age wants to run away with some hippie musician who, you know,
has nothing going for him and isn't even talented because she thinks that's going to be a great life for her.
Why?
you're allowed to date that hippie musician.
But if you come to me because you want a new pair of shoes or a new bag, no, no, no, no, no. Sorry, you've made your choice. You're now not member of the tape family. You're now with this guy.
This is the guy you've chosen.
So he's the guy who has to take care of it.
So I think that's the number one lesson that I have to instill in my life.
It's all good.
because I am dead.
This guy is going to be the dad of your kids.
fucking look carefully before you go running away with him or
getting married to him or, you know. Yeah.
That's definitely something I would say my dad had the same. Not that I listened at first, but then I met him. So now I get it, you know, because I'm like, I mean, my dad is my dad, but then it's like,
they always say a girl will try to find someone who is resembles their father. And,
Very much so. And the way he takes care of me and protects me and all that, but also in the way like he'll say something and I'm like, God, I'm like married to my dad. But yeah, that's definitely. I think that's a very, I think that's a very important lesson. Very. I think that when, when young girls don't have a father figure.
They talk always about girls with daddy issues. They hate their father for whatever reason. They don't have a good father figure. Their father was
mean or cruel to them, anything's better, you know?
I'm going to make sure that life's always better when you're in this household. And the burden of performance on whoever takes you away from this household is going to be very, very high.
because...
I will cut them off.
I am that guy. You want to take that guy? Cool. Oh, Dad, me and my boyfriend, we can't pay the rent. His album hasn't done very well.
Sorry. Good luck. Have fun staying poor.
I don't know what to say. I told you. I wouldn't. You shouldn't be dating that guy.
So that's what I'm going to teach. I think that's the number one lesson, I guess, a father could teach a mother, along with very basic things.
treat her mother with respect.
bring her mother flowers, take her nice places. Let, let her understand that, you know, women should be made happy by the, by the men that they choose, you know?
But this is very basic stuff. Don't beat their mother up. You brought up that you don't want women struggling like men.
I kind of agree because women struggle in their own way with pregnancy, postpartum depression, raising children, the strain. They're in a constant state of stress because they're trying to, one, take care of the household, feed, give me food, make sure I'm OK, take care of the kids, change the diapers, clean the babies. All that stuff is like I don't want that job. I don't want that job.
raising budgets.
And I'm not going to say exactly what my experiences in life were that taught me this, but I know fully well from...
the way the world works. Growing up in my poor, horrible, crappy town, to being at the circles I'm at now, to seeing how other millionaires' daughters behave,
I'm at the position now where I understand...
that the
society and the pressures on women
to get the things they want from life are not as big as men because they can have anything they want from life.
There are good ways to get it, and there are bad ways to get it. And you both know what I'm saying. So I think if a girl really, really...
really wants that Gucci person. She's 17.
And she really wants that Gucci handbag.
And you could go make her work in a fast food restaurant. She's probably not going to do it if she's exceptionally attractive. Nor do I think that it's a healthy environment for her to be working in a McDonald's restaurant, scraping the grease off the floors and doing the horrible things I did.
But let me tell you something, and this is a warning for all the fathers out there who believe that they can sustain faith.
the good character and the chastity of their kids based on values alone.
I would say being a provider is equally as important because I know
the big Christian dads, the big Muslim dads, the big Mormon dads,
We think, you know what, they're completely flat broke. No, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna teach my daughter this, and be God-fearing, etc. It might work,
But with the internet and the way that the world is,
If she wants that Gucci purse when she's 17, one way or another...
she's going to get that Gucci purse and I'd rather her get it from me.
And she's gonna learn that she could get it from me as long as she is a
an upstanding member of society within my family. So I think that's a much healthier way, whereas my son,
If he...
turns 17 and he really wants that mustang
Good luck, boy. Go and earn yourself that Mustang. Result that floor. Save your money. I'll open you up a bank account. You know, what do you want me to do? I ain't buying him that Mustang because
men
There are far fewer...
traps.
I think the only way to the top is through hardware.
And if you let a man, you know, work a minimum wage job and struggle and, you know, and try and balance his education with his work life, et cetera, he's not going to think, you know what, I'm taking the easy way out. I'm going to become a male stripper.
That doesn't happen for most men.
Most men haven't got the ability or the confidence or the physique or the body to ever do that.
until they're maybe in their mid-30s.
So I think there are so many
outlets there for young women.
having...
the ability to provide for your daughters.
is exceptionally important. I think it's overlooked.
People say, "Oh, well money isn't everything." Okay, cool. Well, you have fun.
raising your daughter in a trailer park.
and you sit there and drink your beer and don't make any money and just assume it's going to be fine because you shout at her enough.
I mean, I don't know the market. You tell me what percentage of American strippers are from trailer parks. What, 19%? I don't know. There's a reason.
why I think financial success is important for men. And it goes beyond buying myself the nicest cars from the nicest stores. It goes with providing the people I care about.
with a life where they don't have to make any stupid or bad decisions.
I would say I agree, you know, it's not about having money. It's about having the resources available. You know, that's one way to look at it because everyone's, oh, it's all about money. No, it's not about money. It's about the resources that that money provides.
for us to be more than we are supposed to be at times. It just gives us an opportunity to
be more than the average person. And that's what I think that our children need to understand. Let me ask you this though. - Anything in my book. - How are you gonna tell your daughter
You would let your daughter have a partner with multiple men.
or multiple women, you would be okay with that.
I will hand on my heart, say that I would much rather my daughter
be loved
by a man like me.
and marry a man like me,
who has his fun on the side,
as his unimportant women.
If I know, because I'll be able to tell...
if my daughter is actually in the world.
I believe, and you can disagree, which is fine, I believe that
If a man loves a woman with all of his heart,
and wants to make a family with her and cares about her and will provide for her her entire life
And she
the only thing she has to tolerate, because, you know, with everybody you pair yourself with,
there are
things that you have to, that you don't love 100% of every characteristic about a single person. There are things about my brother I just like, and I live with a guy. That's just the way it is.
I believe that if the things that she has to tolerate
for being provided for, loved, cared about, living in a big house, is he's busy sometimes and he travels because he's a businessman and while he's traveling in wherever, Russia or Miami, he might have a little bit of fun.
I believe that's a...
far smaller cross to bear.
than the women who try to
sustain what I would call broken men. And I believe that the world is filled with broken men.
And there are really strong women out there.
who, you know,
do the whole, I'm going to be loyal to this man and love him and give him everything I can. And he's lazy, arrogant, never going to make anything of himself, never going to provide her with a life that's worth living. And on top of that, we'll probably cheat on her anyway.
I would handle my heart.
Say to the man, if my daughter bought someone like me home, look, man,
Don't get caught.
Don't make her sad.
Well, I'm going to make some fucking phone calls. Don't get caught. Don't make her sad. You see that smile on her face? Keep that smile there.
As long as that smile's there, I'm not gonna fucking put my spies and my agents on you and watch what you're doing.
It's cool.
So yeah, I really do mean that when I say that. And people can think I'm lying.
I don't why would I? I don't think you're lying. Because if I really thought that there has to be some
internal dislike of myself and my own character. And I don't have any of that.
and I live unapologetically and I don't believe I'm a bad person.
There would have to be some...
sort of self-loathing going on beneath the surface.
For me to say, no, no, no, my daughter's not allowed to meet people like me.
No, I really believe that people like me can make a woman
or women incredibly happy and you know if
You have to understand that women are the gatekeepers, as I was saying earlier.
So,
It's not that
this man will somehow trick my daughter into being with her. I believe that women are very smart.
I will do.
And I believe women know.
deep down in their hearts if they're with a man like me.
just not to check his phone.
If they're happy and they're smiling and life's great and you know, I stopped checking phones a long time ago And they're smiling all the time. Why look in his phone and women are smart enough to know that and
And if my daughter makes that decision,
I really...
because she is my daughter, so she's going to be smart, I hope. I don't believe it's going to come from a position of pure ignorance, where this guy's somehow tricking her
I'm going to be like, look, she's happy.
Good. You want to marry her? Good. I'll pay for the wedding. Fine.
But, yeah, I'd be perfect. Okay. I really do need that. I believe you. That's fine. Everyone can have different, you know, point of views, you know. I think that the way you live your life can work. So, I don't, you know.
For the young men out here listening, charm is the most valuable thing that you will have when talking to a woman. A million percent. Yeah. A million percent. Money is only attractive for so long. No, exactly. It's like, okay, cool. What else? Do you have anything else to talk about? It's funny because sometimes we go to the beach together and I'll be staring at a group of guys. You're staring at a group of girls and I'm like, just go talk to them. What are you doing? I'm going to get up and do it myself in a minute.
- The modern world is completely fucked. I call it something I call the over-digitalization of the sexual relationship. So when I was, you're the same age as me.
When we were 15 and you liked a girl, what did you do? You had to go and tell her or tell her friend.
When you're 18 and you're in the club or the bar drinking your beer and you want to have sex, for example. Because you're 18, of course you want to have sex. You're an 18-year-old man.
You had to fucking have a few drinks, fucking, you know, build up your courage, walk over there and say, hi, I like you, my name's whatever, and say whatever you need to say. Try to convince her to come home with you.
I feel like younger men have lost this entirely.
Because just one generation short of us
People who are young enough to be our younger brothers, our younger cousins, literally have lost it.
entirely because when they're at school and they like a girl what do they do
Look at her all day like that. Go home and maybe if they get brave type of message on Instagram. I like you. It's really pathetic.
And it's really not natural and it's not human.
And, you know, when they get to 21, 22, they've never spoken with a woman cold in the first place. They've never walked up to a woman who they find attractive.
and tried to convince her to
hand over her phone number or her Instagram or whatever it is people do nowadays.
They've just
communicated online.
digitally and it's completely warped the minds of young men. So the guys who you saw standing there next to the girls on the beach, I've seen shit as bad as, I'm not joking,
when I'm hanging around younger guys who I always chastise for this,
Oh, those girls are really hot.
Oh, that means there are hot girls in this town. Let's set our Tinder radius to two miles and see if any of them are on Tinder. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? She's there. Right there.
But, um, yeah, the world is fucked up, my friend. And that's the way it is. So, yeah, the world is going to get much, much worse. And, um...
I feel like that's...
one of the reasons why a lot of younger, more beautiful women are dating guys in their 30s now more than there ever was before. And they're not dating their school friends and their contemporaries at university.
Because a guy who's 29 will walk over and say, hi, I think you're really pretty.
Would you like to have that? - Yeah. - Oh my God, I've been asked on an actual lunch date. It's so alien to what they've experienced from the men who they've associated with of their own age. - No, as a woman who is much younger, I 100% agree.
So what is the age gap? 10 years. 10 years. I'll be, yeah. That's a very...
That's a very healthy age gap. I agree. And a lot of people are like, what the heck? And I'm like, it works perfect for us. I think it's wonderful and I think it's perfect. Because let me tell you something. Even when you were talking about the past and, you know, when I was younger, I used to get up to this and I used to get up to that. Here's why.
I believe there should be a 10 year age gap.
when people want to start families or men want to marry women. I believe there should be a tenure age gap. I'm going to tell you why. I believe that
A lot of men
So let's take two hypothetical couples.
Um,
One couple meets at 23. They're both 23.
What happens
is the man at 23 has done zero...
real living.
Whereas today in this modern day and age, a woman who's 23 may well have seen the world. And I'm not saying she sold herself or did anything cheap, but she's accepted dates to people who've taken her to the Maldives and the South Pacific Islands. She's been to Hawaii. And, you know, she goes down to Florida to hang out with her girlfriends on spring break because everything's free when you're a woman. And women have done all of their living at 22, 23. And they think, you know what? I've lived...
And I've seen the world, oh, it'd be really nice to start a family and get pregnant now and have some kids. Whereas a 23-year-old man would think,
Oh, well, this girl's 23 and she's hot, so I'm going to sleep with her. And then they end up together in a relationship and married. What happens is...
The man hasn't experienced real life yet. Because I feel like not until you're 28, 29... If you've done the work, by the way. Most men never get to live a good life. If you've done the work when you're a man and you're 28, 29, 30...
You then finally get to live the life that 19-year-old women have been living all the time. Go to the club whenever you want, go on vacation three or four times a year. You finally get to do things with your life.
And I feel like...
Once the woman has lived her life sufficiently, and the man has lived his life sufficiently, and had their fair bit of fun,
I think that's a very good time for them to pair up and get married.
I've seen relationships that have started when I was younger.
I had friends who married women my age when I was 22, 23. And as the man got
older, 32, 33, he's like, oh, I shouldn't have married my wife, so I haven't even lived. And he starts to get attention from younger, more beautiful women. He gets easily tempted away and easily strayed away because he's never experienced that.
I'm the kind of guy, I like to think you're the type of guy, you've met enough women. There's some really attractive woman comes to you and says, hey, you know, let's go to Mexico for a weekend. You could be like...
Well, no.
Because you've had sex with women who look like that. You've had your little bit of fun before. And you think, I'm not going to jeopardize my family for that.
So I think the 10-year age gap,
is...
really healthy and really good. And don't let anyone tell you it's not.
- Please, we agree. - Because I've seen lots of relationships. - Yeah, we definitely agree. But then some people will be like, he only likes you 'cause he's a predator, and you're like, what? - I do also think, in fact, because I've said, I'm a father myself, and because I've said, you know, men should date younger women, I think it's healthy.
I'm going to put a disclaimer in here.
actually, for anyone watching, because I hate to be misunderstood and I hate to be mislabeled.
The disclaimer is, if you're a man in your late 20s or early 20s, and you decide to take a girl out who's 18 or 19,
If you decide to do that,
I believe, and I live my life in this way too,
that you have a certain element of responsibility
not to be a fucking jerk.
What I mean is when you have a girl who's, let's say you're 28, 29 and you have a girl who's 18, you might be her first ever boyfriend. You might be her first experience at going on real dates, her first experience at sex or her first experience at lots of things.
it's very much
with any young person i'm using women as an example because i'm talking about older men and older women but i'm also talking about
being a man who influences younger men who are your friends perhaps.
When you're dealing with younger minds and younger people, it's very much like,
exploring our new natural wilderness for the first time. I don't believe that you should go in there and fucking wreck it and chop down all the trees and fucking spill oil all over it. You have a responsibility not to fucking
raise her hopes
Make your fall head over heels with you.
Open herself sexually to you. And then ghost her like some sort of fucking jerk. Be a gentleman. Be polite.
Be nice, you know. I don't understand why men are so happy to go out there and damage young women's minds.
just for the sake of getting their dick wet.
And this is what people don't understand about
A guy who may live a life where he sleeps with more women than the monogamous married man, like myself.
Is that...
Being a gentleman is also very, very important. You can't just go through the world dating women younger than you who put hopes and expectations on you, who don't know what it's like to be with a man, and just burn their whole fucking expectations of
of what it's like to be treated well.
and to damage them for the man they might marry in the future.
So I'm going to put that out there because people said,
People are going to say Tristan said it's fine for a 29 year old to date a 19 year old. Yes, it is fine.
But it's also important that you don't be a fucking jerk to her and you treat her with respect and you treat her kindly. Even if it's just a few dates and dinner and you sleep together, don't give her false hope. Don't give her false expectations and don't fucking break her heart.
She's still a person who has to go out there and live her life and find her husband and you don't want to damage people.
So I'll add that in just...
See, Caitlin, I told you he was nice. Yeah. Sometimes.
I'm very nice. I want to say I'm very nice to women. It's men who I mean to. So let me ask you, how do you think we've done for our first podcast?
I think that your choice in guest room is absolutely... Obviously she carried the whole podcast.
I was very nervous. Nah, don't be nervous. I think you guys have done very well. And I'm happy that you guys gave me the platform and the chance to speak to a new audience.
Hopefully I can shed some light on how people who
perhaps don't subscribe to your world you like to live in.
Yeah, I think it's going to be good. I think it'll be half a million views at least. I hope so. Love it. I hope so.
I wish you all the best. And if I don't speak to you until it happens, good luck with the birth. Good luck with your... Thank you.
I will say my view of you...
I never had one. I was just really hesitant because you know how TikTok everyone puts you out that you are mean. And I remember telling him, like, I just hope he's not mean to me. Like, please don't be mean. But no, you are a completely different change. So I am sorry for the prejudice. That brings us all the way around to exactly the first thing I said.
about the internet and lies and my reputation, what people think about me. I told you people think I'm a bad negative person because
They've read a bad article about me. They've seen a bad TikTok, badly edited. I think anyone who sits down and speaks to me,
is always pleasantly surprised. And I'm glad that that's the impression you got for me. For sure. Yeah, we really appreciate this. Thank you. Good luck with the podcast. Good luck with the future. Good luck with the sun. Thank you. Thank you so much. Stay safe in the meantime. Thanks. Thank you. Bye. Have a great night.