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Logan would have to piss in a cup and pass a drugs test which he never would. The whole world's fake. Everything's fake. I don't think many people actually understand how fake it is. Why did you choose the Muslim religion? I sit and say name another one. It's going around the TikTok now that I worship devil or something. You're on this camera, me, big up all my little legs and going yeah, yeah. I've never had a woman leave me for cheating. There's people above governments, my friend. Maybe not in Dubai so much. So I kind of like Illuminati type like concept.
- No, it's okay. I like that. - I thought I was a professional. - This is real. - I've ruined it. But yeah, and it's also the way social media's changed now because
certainly that attention spans have been decimated in real time. I know mine have. I know even me as a person, I can't focus on
a video for more than
four or five minutes max. Have you ever looked up something like how to find a setting on your iPhone and the guy's like, hello, my name is this. I will tell you. Skip, skip, shut the fuck up. Where's the setting? Like you don't have time. You can't focus on anything. So
and
across the last six years of doing long form content,
they take the 15 seconds. Nobody's interested in anything else. They take the last bit. It goes viral and
What can you do? Nobody wants to pay attention to anything long format or the context or the nuance. And when you're discussing difficult issues, there's going to be context, there's going to be nuance.
That's what it got. - I saw your interview, which, because I've known him a long time.
Yeah. For the fight game when he actually, he's not a YouTuber, he's a fighter.
Turned.
I don't know what to call you now to be honest. What are you now? Top G.
number one enemy of the matrix morpheus and i saw your one with um penis morgan what i like yeah
Sugar Sean O'Malley used that word it was funny
and when you were talking about the 24 year old
- Yeah. - You said about 18s and 24 year olds. I understood the context, I've seen that.
But what was funny was how he was going to say, are you saying all 24-year-olds are?
You know? I don't want to be like in an abrupt way used or
has been but I know exactly what you mean through society and through history
I myself
You meet a woman or
you're on a blind date the first thing if she says to you yeah you know
I was on a baby station for 10 years.
let's be honest we'd all be like oh okay you know if you're seriously interested so your point was not
it's bad or someone's used, someone who's had
a lot of partners is tending to be pushed away rather than a girl
who's less sociable in a way. That's what you meant. Yeah. And women are beyond criticism now. Women are absolutely idolized. And I'm not saying that women should be criticized. I'm saying that we should all be held to the same standard. We should be fair.
and we're all going to be products of our habit.
we're habits, we're habitual creatures. If you do the same thing every single day,
It's pretty fair for me to assume that you're likely to do it again in future. So if you meet a woman who sleeps with a bunch of dudes, it's pretty likely to assume, well, maybe she's going to continue or she's more likely to do it. You'd have to be an absolute fool to believe that somebody is not likely to do things they've already done before and they have a habit of. So...
To look at someone and go, they have a habit of acting in a way I don't particularly align with.
I don't think I want that kind of behavior in my future, especially with something as important as children or family.
for you to even have that standard is misogynistic.
That's how they attacked me. That's my point.
It's your opinion.
And it's your
like taste or like, for example, you might have one, I might have one. Some guys might say, I like a girl who's experienced, I like what we said, that Dero Gritter and Milf or older or younger or cougar, whatever they call it.
My point is, yeah, you can't push... That's your take. You saying, I specifically think this...
And they went, no, he's disallowed. Not allowed, Tammy. You're not allowed an opinion. Not allowed. You know, I never thought I'd get to say this to your face, but I really admired your strategy with Piers Morgan. And I could tell, because I've had to debate him on TV before. And I'm sat on a flight on my own, and I'm like, okay, this is what I'm going to get. This is what I'm going to give back. And you have to manage him very well. Yeah.
And when I watched that interview,
Part of me was like,
"Is he going to be able to do what he does best to make Tate look bad?" And you kind of nailed it in the sense, and I loved how you kept looking at the camera. You knew the clips, you knew what was coming, and you kind of hijacked the whole conversation, and everyone went there to see you maybe potentially trip up.
and peers really made you look good.
Yeah, it was certainly a PR win. Like afterwards, I was a little bit mad at myself because I'm a perfectionist. But...
My team analyzed the comments on every single video I've ever made.
They're all, I get a report every single day of the entire internet, what's said about me, what's good, what's bad, etc. And Piers Morgan was my highest performing interview ever in regards to positive versus negative. 99.4% of comments were positive in my favor.
So...
He lost. So that's how you have to measure it, right, with the metrics. So I would like to have said a lot more. I could have been a lot harder. I could have destroyed him. But I now know the Matrix is looking for me to trip up, right? So when they come at me and try and get me to say something about LGBT or try and get me to say something about this race or whatever they're trying to do, I can't give the machine more ammo. So especially with someone like Piers, I'd be very careful with what I said.
Because that's what they're waiting for. Because they can't restart the old machine. The misogyny thing is over. They still want me gone. So they're waiting for something to grasp onto. That's what they're doing. I think some of the shots he used were cheap regarding this poor young girl. I've got daughters. For me, even if you haven't got kids, you're around kids all the time. Our fan base, your fan base...
Yours, yours are youngsters. And I was like,
Bro, you've got an agenda, but don't be sick. And I love the way you brought that up, you know? Because that's like... What the fuck's up? I really wanted some clickbait of you saying one thing wrong, and that's it. You would have finished. Yeah, it is criminal. And these people, they're only out for themselves. And that's the internet as a whole. And it's also, the algorithm was rewarding people. Like, when this whole Matrix attack happened, it was very orchestrated. I knew it was coming.
I knew I'd get to a point where they were going to cancel me, but I didn't know it'd be as orchestrated as it was.
So first, the algo started rewarding people who made a negative video of me. So my own team would make a video that was positive of me and it would basically get zero views. But if you made a negative video by Andrew Tate, it was always the top of every single one. So it's basically telling every YouTuber, if you do a negative Andrew Tate video, you get views.
So that's the first bribe, right? Because they don't give a shit, right? They want views. So that's the first thing. And then the way it was orchestrated amongst the charities and NGOs and these activists, the way they all came out at the same, within three minutes, bro. Within three minutes, with 150 different activists post basically the same wording and slightly rewritten in the same picture.
There's somebody above and behind all this shit. So they decided somebody, whoever they are, don't kill me. I'd never kill myself. Don't fucking try. But, bro, because that's what's next. That's what's next. It's scary. I'm telling you. Everyone thinks I'm paranoid. Everyone thinks I'm crazy. But it is. I'm telling you. After yesterday, he was, I'm not sure when we're going to release this, but.
when he was at the gym, he came for a public workout. What I witnessed was insane.
It literally was, people were trampled on
the lift went out of all the people jumping on the lift, bringing signs.
pushing my assistant
And I was like, I said to him in the car, so this is like,
that Kim Kardashian, Christian Ronaldo kind of level.
I've had a lot of these YouTubers here, I've had the Mayweathers, the John Seners, the Khabibs.
But it's a different kind of thing. And I think where you've been banned...
makes you more of this
They've martyred me, yeah. Yeah, they've martyred you. Yeah.
You know like Prince back in the day, the singer. You never saw him in interviews, you didn't see them. So it's like, oh, there's Prince.
You know, nowadays, social media, like this whole influence. I hate the word influencer, but they're everywhere. You know, they're everywhere. Are they really celebs? Yeah.
I think it's a little bit different as well with Mayweather, you might support him, but he's not really doing anything for you, bar entertaining Cristiano Ronaldo. He may put a ball in the net for you.
But with some of your stuff about the matrix, I openly, I use the term a lot now. And as soon as I use a subtle one of your terms, people come at me for it. But I escaped the matrix by accident. When I became a personal trainer, I actually just wanted to do a job I enjoyed and I made my own business. And I was like, what, I can expense stuff?
I mean, I have a tax-efficient business. I'm going to work in shorts, and suddenly all my friends that are doing pay-as-you-own are getting paid.
really screwed over
And then I was like, oh, I'm gonna go to a fitness event in somewhere foreign, I'll go Portugal. I can write that off against my tax bill.
"Why did no one tell me this? And why is no one telling anyone else?" So when people hear your content and understand, they go, "Hold on a second.
I'm being fooled into supporting the economy and it doesn't work out for me. That emotional connection that they get from that,
is insane and it's more of an emotional one than anything else which is why
the fans are so crazy and I think the kids
it can be TikTok but I think also they need more direction older generations probably got more friends, more peers more colleagues that they can talk and communicate with so yeah when I see the videos and the
how young everyone is in the crowd.
There's obviously a need here.
for a role model.
Otherwise they wouldn't be doing what they're doing. You know when you got banned?
Would you have like, if you knew that was coming, would you have slowed down earlier? Like with the stuff you were saying?
So, first thing I knew, it was coming.
Secondly, there's been a few people online who said that I should have
tapered down with what I was saying, but I had already tapered down two or three months prior to the banning because I knew it was coming.
But the internet's forever, right? And also--
My word for you is like the social media drug dealer.
Where you're just like expanding too fast and then just like they trap down on you. It's influence. The problem is I truly believe it doesn't matter what I would have said or what I would have changed. I think that when you get to a level of influence where your soul is not bought...
and you're not completely owned however it's done usually most people who are famous are owned financially they have a sponsorship deal they have a record label they have a sports team they have whatever when you're at a point where you're truly completely independent and nobody can they text you and say say this and you say get fucked and you have massive influence over the youth which is the number one especially the masculine youth i have a lot of fans between all ages right but let's say 15 to 25 that number one demographic is the demographic that the people in charge of the world are most afraid about they're the ones to start revolutions they're the ones you need to die in wars they're the backbone of the slave economy they're the people you need to go out there and
their ass off and pay their taxes and have a sexless marriage and die. If I'm starting to convince this, what they want. If I'm convincing these, if I'm convincing large amounts of these people,
to think for themselves and ignore the slave mind programming and tell the government to basically get fucked. And I want to think for myself and be a sovereign individual. I'm a threat to the system. And they sit there and they say, OK, this person is a threat. What's the advantage of allowing him to have a voice? Fucking zero. So I knew they were going to come for me because of the amount of influence I'd amassed. It's not about what I said. If anyone who believes it's about what I said is juvenile. It's because I had huge influence. And people underestimate how important influence is. The war in Ukraine and Russia right now is what? People are dying. Machines of war are out in a field somewhere blowing people to smithereens.
country can get influence over land. So to say this area uses this currency and you read our newspaper, we have influence. Influence is the bottom line of everything. It always has been. That's what wars are fought for. It's what the media machine exists for. It's why the YouTube algorithms are rigged. It's why elections are fucking...
I don't want to get killed. That's why elections are very fair. It's all influence. So when you're massively influential, they're scared of you. And they sit there and go, look, he's influential. And he's telling people not to sign up to the propaganda. Fuck it.
So why don't you run for president or something? Because then I'll die.
Then he'll be shot. He'll be on JFK. Yeah. Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. You hang yourself. Bro, it's a real concern for me. People think I'm crazy. And the reason I talk about this on every podcast is in case it happens. So there can be TikTok clips of me saying that I would never kill myself.
Because I'm telling you, you get three stages in life. First they shut you up, and if that fails, then it's false jail charges or it's death. I'm telling you. - Don't release a Machiavelli album and do a two person. - So if you believe that, why would you keep going?
because I have a duty to myself and God, my friend. Then I have to sell my soul. And I'm hoping I aspire other people to do the same and understand that when you shut up
when you be quiet and you ignore objective reality and you ignore one side of the argument,
This is how they purport their lies. This is what the matrix is.
The movie The Matrix is people being used for their body heat and their mind is living inside of a false reality to keep them occupied.
What is the difference now? We're all out here working jobs, being used for our body heat, living inside a version of reality, which is objectively false. Objectively, they will tell you there's things happening that aren't happening.
They'll tell you to be afraid of things you shouldn't be afraid of. They'll tell you a fucking giraffe is a horse.
They'll tell you all this garbage and you have to ignore your own eyes and absorb it and accept it.
It's all, the whole world's fake. Everything's fake. And I don't think many people actually understand how fake it is. Every single thing from the World Health Organization to the federal system, to the legal system, to the judicial system.
is fake.
It's all a scam. I actually saw you.
a tweet or someone shared it apologising.
about a vaccine or something like that. - That went crazy. Like, so I was sat at home and I saw the relatively old news piece that was saying that the vaccine was never tested to reduce transmission. And I saw this as an opportunity a year and a half ago to make a very viral video where I was saying, "Come on, guys,
banging coke up your nose that probably came into the country up someone's ass and now you're moaning about a vaccine. And I was like, there's a good angle here and people are ho ho ho. And he's always praising the vaccine. And I was like, virtue, you know, cheers, guys. But then,
When I came around, I was like,
fuck a lot of people that I ripped into I own apology to yeah they lied to you
Bye-bye.
This is what I'm saying. The pandemic, or I don't even like calling it that because it's a lie.
But the whatever you want to call it,
That is a perfect example of how they can completely purport a false version of reality.
Anyone who talks against it gets deleted.
Everyone who talks phoric gets amplified.
And they make you afraid of something that you never saw with your own eyes.
I ask people this all the time. Did you objectively see...
Did you see people falling down the street? Did you see long lines outside of hospitals? Did you see ambulances running left, right, and center? Did you see?
what they told you was happening? The answer is fucking no.
They told you it was happening enough times for you to believe it.
That's all that happened. It's a fucking scam. It's the Matrix, bro. It's a lie. It's a fucking scam. If they would have never put it on the news and you lived your life as normal, you wouldn't have noticed a fucking thing.
Think what they did to people over three years.
So let's say that you continue to grow, you know, and you start to pull minds out of the matrix. Is there a point that if we get too many people out of the matrix that there could be a collapse? Because ultimately,
You know, the way things are going, it's a broken system. But if we bring everyone out of that broken system. Yeah, then it's right. Yeah.
so there's almost an element of
you getting people that are loyal to you
taking them out and the others that hate you, you just kind of leave them in.
That's exactly it. The whole world, you can't unplug everybody because then society would collapse, right?
But um...
I do like to think if there's a contingent of free minds, it prevents tyranny. I think that if not enough people stand up, I do think it's genuinely a battle of good versus evil.
I think it's simple as that, Dan. I think if someone's not standing there saying this is wrong,
then evil wins. Think how many things they're already purporting on our children in the Western world. Imagine if no one stands up, and very few people do, imagine if no one was. Imagine how fast it would accelerate.
This is genuinely a battle of good versus evil. Dubai is insulated.
Eastern Europe, semi-insulated, certain parts of the world are. But if you go to America and send your kid to school and read the shit that they're going through on a daily basis, it's fucking evil. Someone has to stand up and fight this stuff. I've got kids, and for me, this hits home because...
I'm a Muslim. I have my
beliefs.
and the value is what I think. But I will never push it as a Muslim, it's not allowed.
It's not like
Maybe I don't agree, but whatever someone chooses to be or
their sexual orientation or whatever, it's not my problem.
I feel like anything pushing an agenda.
on innocent, I mean, people who are not mature.
What does the word mature mean? Going through puberty, also mentally being mature.
It doesn't mean your balls could drop at like 10,
I saw kids in my school with beards, like little Pakistani kids, you know? And I'm next to them and they have big beards, you know what I'm saying? In the school, my moustache was when I was growing up, I looked like a...
Fat Hitler, you know?
My point is that still doesn't mean you're mature enough to make a decision. Like nowadays my kid
can swipe up on my phone when a message comes to watch YouTube.
I had a runny nose at 10 looking like that, jumping off trees. We were a different generation.
But still to push that agenda
choose your own sex life, take away from the parents. I feel like he said in the West,
If I were to discipline my kid or say something wrong,
they could literally take my children away from me
and I have no say I don't it's not the word own but my kids don't belong to me they don't you're right in the west they don't I truly I've seen it
They bring you these books and again, it's not about that.
what you believe and what you're not, but you can't push in it the same way
I would never let Muslims push an agenda, everyone be Muslim or everyone be a vegan. Everything's the same. It should be the same.
kids are
Whatever they want to do. My kids, I've never told them to buy a Barbie doll.
Oregon or play football.
they just naturally themselves liked, "Oh, here's some nail polish, "and I'm sitting there putting stuff on me."
Just let them flow. I tried to get them to wrestle and go hit pads, and I said, come on, kickboxing, but they didn't want to do it.
It's something, a natural inclination in my opinion, what's in there from genetic makeup, in my opinion,
that people tend to do what they do, you know?
But pushing that agenda is scary and hence why...
I chose to live in Dubai and raise my kids especially here because
I don't want to have these books where
you know, just confusing them at an early age or where you can choose your pronoun.
And there's no disrespect to anyone, but I think as a kid,
they don't even know what they want to be. They don't even know what day of the week is.
you know they think they're
Wonder Woman meets
Frozen, Elsa, they don't know
And yet you're putting this on them and saying, no, you must choose. And then giving the parents like...
"Come and see us, we're gonna get the social services, "say this and that."
It's like communism in a way.
It's communism. Yeah, the kids aren't yours in the West and they don't want them to be yours. I don't think people understand how this extrapolates out to all society. The reason they want everybody broke, the reason they inflate the currency, the reason it takes two people now, the father and the mother, to be working your asses off is because that means the kids belong to the school. They go to school all day and they get programmed and then they watch the internet all day and they get programmed again. They're not your children. And Tam's right. You should be able to have children with the idea of raising them how you see fit, however that is. We can't tell other people how to raise their kids, but no one should be telling us how to raise ours. And
discipline your child or tell them something ain't real they tell the teacher you lose your kid you don't you don't own your kid you don't own your house because they'll take that from you if you don't wear your mask it's all bullshit like most people don't realize on every level how corrupted society is it's it's it's truly scary and that's why i stand up and say these things and
If they kill me, it was nice meeting you gentlemen. You know, in the UK now, if you take your kid out of school, you get fined. So if you want to take him on holiday during time, you have to pay money. You're like...
I'm giving you one less kid to educate that's a spare seat in the class. It's bonkers. I don't think there should be some rules I just wondering there should absolutely be some rules, but you need checks and balances and everything and
Which is why you need somebody to talk. You always need someone to talk against the rules, even if the rules are completely right.
The second you have nobody talking against any kind of agenda, it becomes tyrannical, no matter what it is, no matter how well-intentioned it is. I actually believe a lot of the things that
exist now to keep society in order were started with good intentions. I don't believe society, I don't believe that Facebook or social media was started with the intention of controlling populations, but it just ends up there. That's how it ends up when they become powerful. So yeah, you certainly need rules, but now we're in a situation where certain people can make rules and other people can't talk against them.
And that only leads one place. That can't lead anywhere good.
Yeah, but you see, rules are evolving.
Yeah.
For example, who knows what's next?
legally marrying animals.
or
Legally, like, your kid can... I don't know. It's just... Like, in the 60s, there was a certain way that...
Even when I was young.
Like in the 80s, I remember, there was discipline, like...
You tried shit.
An old guy outside a pub will just punch you.
Nothing will happen. I will go around my friend's house, say we kick the football, hit the window. His dad could really give me a bollocking. It was just...
The normal, my parents would be like, that's okay, I understand.
or teachers used to
What was it, the cane?
I'm not saying it, but there was discipline. Now teachers can't even tell a kid off.
I'll tell the teachers, listen.
That's their job, teach them discipline. I don't mind that. Now I keep like, "No," then the parents come,
Fritting the teachers. It's like, it's havoc. - Me, I'm kind of half and half in my head about it. Sometimes I say, "Anyone should be able to say anything, "post anything." Especially like, even when you got banned, I was like, "Well, should someone really get banned? "Just don't watch their content if you don't like it."
but sometimes I'm kind of like
think twice about it, because I'm like, you know how nowadays you have the they, them, or like you said, an animal can marry a person.
But if you keep letting that stuff get posted,
then other people are like, oh, you know, people that are attention deprived. If I go do that, look, everyone, someone's getting attention for marrying a dog. Let me go marry a horse. Yeah.
so you might be promoting that so what do you think about that you know what I mean
Because I'm kind of too sensed at that. I think, look, freedom of speech, there's no such thing.
There is no freedom of speech anyway.
There's no such thing. - Yeah. - Because then they'll say, then it's hate. If they don't like it, it's hate speech. Like I saw one of your comments regarding
White privilege or BLM got blown up.
And I understood what you're saying. I was on your side.
I got in a lot of trouble because people see me as an ethnic or a brown
I can say things, but you can't.
And honest to that, they were like,
white privilege. The term white privilege I hate.
You know, it didn't make sense. And you made a comment, I'm not sure what it was. - I definitely messed this one up. - And you got a lot of stick. - I messed this one up a bit. - You got a lot of stick for it. But I know your intention behind it.
But maybe it's again, it's delivery. - I've been working hard, it was tired. I was in the morning, I was having coffee.
And someone said, it's okay for you. You're a white, straight, cisgender male.
And I was like, it just boiled up inside. And I said, maybe I just fucking outworked you for 10 years.
Maybe it was that.
And then everything was like, you're dismissing my privilege of doing this. And I was like,
Guys, do you know what? My mum and dad are still together. I lived at home until I was like 26, which was great because
I was PT in 13 hours a day.
and my mum would leave food in the morning for me to eat, they supported me. These are genuine things I was really privileged with and I was like please don't overlook 10 years of hard work and just say that I'm a straight white male because
that really hit an emotion deep down that i was like
we cannot tarnish young people's minds with the idea that
you know, oh it wasn't work, it was this. Same when people are in shape or
world champion kickboxers. People like to connect the dots what suits their narrative and they overlook the main lesson they need to get out of life. I think being privileged is negative anyways.
Now that's just a term I think
Listen, I've got very cl... and I understand.
we were, my racers were colonised,
History is history, but everyone was responsible for certain things.
Muslims did things
the Mongols.
Romans everyone had their part in history, but it's like going to a German and abusing them for the atrocities in World War two and
You couldn't.
What's some German kid who's like listening to Biggie Smalls?
Got to do a pit love.
or white privilege. Like I was raised in a white community
Even when the local term was used as package shop in those days, yeah?
Being Asian, it wasn't even racist, it's just uneducated. It's the society you're in, you know what I'm saying?
So people take things out of context and like, you're probably the old school kind of like that kind of cloth
but it gets blown up. You have to be so careful, especially on that fitness spotlight, what you're doing, what you're doing.
Whatever you say now, especially I told him, I said,
You're so big now, you don't realize.
The most biggest danger you've got is like what you even say, how you move.
where you are you can a restaurant
any action you do people got phones out it's scary they can edit anything now
It is scary, but the white privilege attack, I'll get in trouble here. But I agree with you. I think it's clown world. I think to look at somebody who's white who's successful and say it's only because they're white is stupid. I think it's asinine. It's pathetic. And it's trying to remove any self-accountability and self-responsibility.
The people who were saying that to you were not extremely successful black people or extremely successful brown people. I've never known a very successful brown man who goes to another successful white man and says... I want to add to that. It would have been white people saying that to you. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. I'm not racist. My wife's white. You know? My kids are mixed. We're mixed.
- I'm all for, I don't see a race. - I'm mixed. - The abuse you usually get is from your own community, I've noticed that.
Muslims target me or Asians.
Iranians or Arabs. It would have been the white community trying to relate, jumping on the bandwagon. That's what's so annoying about the whole thing. It's all poppy syndrome, where they say that
If you had like a field of poppies, if one sticks out above the rest, oh, it doesn't look nice, chop it down.
So it's that and it's really prominent in a lot of cultures around the world.
and like you say you get attacked by your own people. I've got a question for you
the size of your YouTube following and YouTube taking people's channels, like that's
gut wrenching for so many creators. Do you feel that there's a lot of pressure on you to conform?
Not really, to be honest I always say like, even if they shut me down, like I always say like if you have a successful mindset I could do it again.
I like that. So I say if you're someone that like if you claim to be a businessman entrepreneur, a good YouTuber,
Even if they delete anything, you should be confident to do it again.
- But why should they delete? - They shouldn't. I mean, I hope they don't, but I can't control it.
You should say they shouldn't have banned me. They shouldn't have stopped my payments, but they did.
But you can do it again, I'm sure.
- Yeah.
That's true, yeah. But I think it... It sucks, though. It sucks. I know what you're saying, but I think it goes beyond that when it gets to really critical issues like, let's say, the vaccine or...
raising children, etc. When they start deleting one side of the argument, it's different than deleting an entertainer, right? When you're deleting genuine information, it goes
from beyond inconvenience into actually shaping the narrative of the world. But what do you do about that? Yeah, well that's the question. What you do is you do what we're trying to do now is make people think and understand that these people are trying very hard to control the narrative,
I don't blame them. Like we're all business owners, right? If you had somebody who worked for your company who defied your logic and didn't want to listen to you and didn't agree with the way you did things, you'd fire them.
So if you have members of your population, when you control a country who don't agree with how you act and what you want, you want them to shut up and go away. Like this is just natural human nature. But the point is that will end in tyranny.
The reason the crap went on so long is because the people who were talking against it, like myself, I can tell you now, I lost five, six Twitter accounts. My Instagram was shadow banned. My YouTube had three videos taken down. All for saying, hi, guys, I'm in Sweden. It's open.
Like it's fine Like Yeah because bro Day one Me and my brother sat there And said listen Let's be logical about this If this kills us two Two military age males As strong as humans can be Then society's over Civilization's done
So there's no point hiding from it. So we went to Sweden because it was open. Went to the club. And we were in Sweden for two months. Everyone's locked in their houses, clapping for the NHS, hiding at home. Sweden was... No one talks about this.
wide open, no restrictions, no masks, no closures, nothing. Completely full nightclubs in Stockholm, full head to toe. Nobody talks about Sweden. I don't know why. I was living there for months, watching people hide in their homes. I was like, guys, and every time I put up on Instagram, they deleted it. They're deleting that. They're not saying I'm hateful because they couldn't, right? I'm just showing my life. It's not about deleting entertainer. It's about literally changing the perception of reality so they can enslave humans. It's beyond just the inconvenience
It's we want to enslave people. We want to trick people into getting a vaccine they don't need. We want to convince people to stay home and miss their fucking grandmother's funeral. So we're going to delete one side of the argument. It's genuinely evil. It's not a small thing.
It's big!
Don't you think it's criminal? Imagine you missed your grandparents fucking thing. Imagine you took the vaccine. You had a side effect.
Imagine someone you love took it because a whole bunch of people have now. Imagine your business went bankrupt, you can't feed your family. Imagine your girl leaves you because you lost your business.
And then you're going, oh, it's over now. No big deal. We just deleted everyone's YouTube to lie to you for three years. Now you worked it out. Oops. Anyway, Ukraine.
It's a fucking scam. And nobody seems to give a shit. It's a miracle that nobody cares. I'm like, no one's mad about this? Is it just me? I didn't even fall for it and I'm mad. It's just crazy. I don't know why no one's standing up saying, what the fuck do you lie to us for?
It's criminal, and it's all about the distraction mechanisms of the matrix. But who's they? Who's the matrix? Who's they? Who's the matrix?
Aw, man, you're gonna get me killed. You tell me who you think they are. I don't know. Because, look, I'm saying, if it's...
the government, why would they just not stop you?
It's not government.
So that's not the government.
There's people above government.
- That's my friend. Maybe not in Dubai so much. - So kind of like Illuminati type.
- Like concept? - What do you think James? - I see this when I see a well written Joe Biden tweet.
I'm like, who's got his phone? Who's got his phone? Because that's, that can't be him. Yeah, I've seen him an hour ago doing something. So someone must be doing that. I look over there. And again, I don't know Joe Biden. I've not met him in real life. But I assume and make a stand that maybe there's someone puppeteering him or yeah. And again,
Rogan talks about this a lot where four years in a job, just about enough time to get competent. I mean, four years in jiu-jitsu, you're probably just about to get your purple belt. You are not even halfway through your martial arts career. Oh, at that time, sorry, time to swap out the most important role in the free world and put someone else in it. It's absolutely bonkers. So someone must be behind the scenes with some form of tenure.
and some form of experience.
Do you know what? People would probably feel more relaxed if they knew that.
"Hey, this is the candidate who's gonna win the election, "and he's gonna be the front man for everything that goes on,
By the way, there's a load of experts behind the scenes actually running the country. Oh, thank God for that.
but
I think they wouldn't, they wouldn't, because then these people are worried about coops.
and they worry about being taken over and worry about
The backlash, you know?
The free will. They kind of take away your free will in a way.
Why would they want us to have free will?
That's the thing, you have to think about it as being as competitive as possible.
All the countries, or at least now, the world's split into two hemispheres. They're competing against each other. You have to try and be as competitive as possible. Free will is great because it allows people to be entrepreneurs and think for themselves and come up with ideas and be creative, etc. Free will is what got America to where it is. But now we're reaching the age of AI, we're reaching the age of brutal competence, and you're sitting there going, all this free will has all the kids wanting to be YouTubers. They don't want to do anything important.
They just want to sit there and be YouTube. Did you see that study where they asked a bunch of kids in China what they wanted to grow up to be? And most of them said engineer or astronaut and they asked all the kids in America and they all said YouTuber vlogger?
Yes you
How can you win in the long term when the Chinese children want to grow up to know shit, and the kids in the West want to fuck about with a camera? No offense to me. But it's true. But it's true. You're making more swinging. Give him a little... No, but I'm not saying there shouldn't be YouTubers. I'm saying that, like you said, the system doesn't work if everyone's a fucking YouTuber. So...
He's not competitive anymore. So they're sitting there going, get rid of the free will. He's in the fitness industry. Everyone's a fucking PT or fitness influencer now. That must, like, that's why some of your shit I see, I love it. It's funny because...
When you first came on the scene, they called you the Gordon Ramsay or whatever, but you were like saying things I was thinking.
Like,
PTs who've just done a bit of a course, look good, give motivational speeches. You know, with that music, guys, I wake up, you know, and
when you came it was kind of refreshing because I was like exactly what I'm thinking what is this kind of
Cult? It's a cult, man. You know what's crazy, right? This is my one bugbear.
Why are people so fucking happy to train?
They're like, hey guys, today we'd, stop it, that's fake. - Yeah, yeah.
Even today, someone's like,
You can do a podcast with some fucking legends. And I'm there. I'm like, that's sick.
That is the height of human emotions when you're really buzzing, right? Yep. You earn like an incredible amount of money, you're like, "Fucking sick, fist bump your brother." That's the height. So when I saw these people online, I was like, "This is evidently fake. I don't trust them." If there was someone that came to the pub, "Hey mate, really good to meet you." I'd be like, "Give me my fucking hand back and stop being so happy." So the first time I kind of got in the fitness industry, I was like, "These guys are all fake. I'm just gonna be myself and try and be like, 'Hey, I'm just gonna be myself.'"
We probably want to do this for the right reasons. We want to enjoy it. Have a gin and tonic at the weekend. Don't be too much. And I kind of saw a gap in the market of just being normal.
You know, I know it makes me laugh about fitness influencers. You see these like 19 year old chicks with perfect bodies, etc. And they're like there and this is what I eat. And I have lemon with my chicken, all this crap. And I'm watching it. I'm like, listen.
I know a 19-year-old girl right now who just smokes and drinks gin, and she's in great shape. You're 19. You're 19.
Of course you're in good shape. You're 19. That's what I'm saying. He did one about Diet Coke the other day. It made me laugh. It was shooting. 19 year old girls are in good shape. That's just like. They are. Show me a fitness influencer who's old. Cool. Half the time they're filters bro. Like I get these people.
can I come to your gym and verify they send it to the gym account
Blue tick.
I'll collab with you right there. They're doing me a favor. We'll collab. We'll come. Just let us for free and we'll do a few tags.
So at first I was like to my assistant, you know, get, this is free marketing, you know, if they've got this following, then I realized what fake following was.
they'd come and I'm expecting them literally they could walk past me I wouldn't know it was them yep
It was the, it's like,
looking at me than seeing DiCaprio on TV. It's not the same, you know? You can say Shrek, yeah, but not DiCaprio. And I was seeing this chick, I was like, what? I was like this.
And it's so bad because you've got these young girls like this
God forbid what happens to that girl but
social media pressure of trying to be this perfect
You know, as my best shape ever was on juice.
It was purely on steroids. You cannot attain that. I can see a guy now and you can't.
I can say Winstroll,
- Stellar's on. - Tren. - Sam, I can tell you what he's on. This week I said to someone, I go, "So is Stellar with Haram?"
Someone was like no, it's okay. It's allow you're okay today. I was okay cool. That makes sense. Yeah walking around the gym. I was like oh
And if you're transparent about it, great.
And I think that's the best thing. But when you lie about it, because like you say,
Everyone needs to take it upon themselves to run a profitable business because then you can't be bought. Because even this week, W were like, hey,
four nights for free but you gotta post every day. I was like, I'd rather pay. I would rather pay than do it. I don't wanna own you guys. But when people have got BCAA, Gymshark, and Gymshark are paying their mortgage five times over. So of course they're not gonna, oh yeah, it's the supplements I'm taking. It's disillusioned people, and again,
You go to the five.
"Everyone's out there in a Lambo, it's not yours. "Stop trying to sell me your fitness program "in a rented car." - Yeah, yeah. - I swear, I love the owners of five really good guys, but that five palm is like Jahannam. That means hell in Arabic. That is the land of Shaytan. Five, you've got road men coming, saving their money on their, you know.
Everyone's got their pictures like,
I'm not gonna lie, I've got a few man bags, yeah? Because I dress like this. I need a man bag for my phones and keys. James is similar to me, like,
around Andrew I feel like a fucking peasant he wears these coats we went to see Sean O'Malley
It was like fucking, he killed a chinchilla on the way, he had his fur coat, this, that. And I was like, TK shirt, I've got 50 dollars, but I sell it for 150, I put my name on it. I was like, I'm a knob, what am I wearing, yeah?
It's just me, that's me, I like the flip flops.
I wear flippables, my legs are skinny so I put the higher boots you know.
And I'm like, these people are five and
It's just this kind of society.
Everyone has to post something they're not and fake.
I respect the guy who says, look, I've got a small penis and a fat belly and I've got nothing in my account. You'll never see it happen, though. I'm right here, I can hear you. No, but, you know what I mean? And it's, especially that fitness industry, that is...
one of the cause which has ruined this kind of
that's Rick Branshoff's Kim Kardashian. Everyone's got this booty. Everyone's got these apps where they tone up.
And like he said,
He calls a lot of these out. Like this Dr. Berkey called out, I was actually watching him like an idiot. I was like,
this Dr. Bird said this, I thought, what's he saying about
cut this out and that and he put a few videos and just
destroying him and I was like it's just common sense that regarding
- Calorie deficit and all this. - Lemon water in the morning. I'm like, if you want the nutrients from a lemon, fucking eat one. You know, like just squeezing it. No one's, imagine how stupid you'd look if you squeezed a bit of pineapple over some water. Or you like, you took a tiny little slither of an orange and put it in, oh, I'm just gonna eat a tiny slither.
people go, you're a fucking idiot. But they put it in their water, they're like, oh my God, this is amazing for digestion. You're like, just stop it. Yeah, that's true. And I don't know Jim bro, I see it all the time.
It's just a pet hate us here guys.
One minute they're getting sessions of someone, the next minute...
They're all MMA fighters. Of course. They all fight UFC. I do UFC in Dubai and Arabic. In Arabs, it's funny. It's like, well, I do UFC. You know UFC, you know? I see it all. And I love Filipinos. Like, without the Filipino race, my gym would be dead. Yeah. My assistant, she runs it. It's just my branding. But...
That fitness industry is so bad and dangerous for people. - I think it's certainly destroyed what people think a fit, healthy person looks like.
'Cause I've been accused of being on gear all the time, and I'll sit here and say right now, adamantly, so if I get caught wrong, they can make fun of me. I've never taken anything in my life ever. Yeah, I accused him, I swear, when he let me. I said I accused him. I've never taken anything in my life ever.
I will do any test you can name. I've never taken anything ever. And the reason I won't take it is because I don't know I'm going to want it.
So I'm not going to take it. So I've got this far without it. I know that I'm getting old now. I'm 36 soon.
Maybe when I'm 50, I might need TRT or something, but I've never taken anything ever. But...
And people say I'm in fairly good shape, whatever. But compared to some of the fucking dudes you see around here, I'm tiny. And I'll never be able to get that big. They're monsters. That's just the game, right? And it's warped what people expect from, let's say, a fitness brand. If you launch a fitness brand, you need to look like a monster now. So it's almost like bodybuilding. You have to do it.
It's almost like the bodybuilders, they have to do it. The problem is it's rewarding. They know, okay, if I go on these steroids, I can look good quick, sell my course, and people will buy it. I think society rewards the shortcut, and that's the problem. In certain industries, yeah. But I don't know. You guys can correct me. I still don't think it's that easy. I still think you have to train your ass off, don't you? Yeah, the issue as well that I find is, so when I was younger, I got caught in the loop. I went on gear. I beat people to it. They were, weren't you big then? Relax.
When I went on, it felt amazing.
trying to do is improve my status as a man and it's the only way I knew how was to be more muscular.
And now I'm a little bit older, a little bit wiser. I like to say to young people, "I'm like, relax, mate."
you know
start your own business, become self-employed,
I find a nice girl
treat her really well take her on a nice holiday to fuck
Dubai, fly a business class and guess what? You're gonna feel more of a man than you did on 250 milligrams twice a week and you left butt cheek. And then say to someone like, be a good family member, get your parents a nice car, something like that. If you want to feel like a man, there are so many ways that don't involve injecting testosterone. And it took me a long time to realize that. And what we're ultimately trying to do as men is feel
like men feel like we're playing a part in society where you know
20, 30 years, or if you do get Epstein, you could leave a legacy where you looked after the people around you. Yep.
If a massive swell dude in here has a heart attack today, and that was his whole life and his identity, like, what really...
happened or influenced people's lives around you apart from the amount of volume you put in your delts and chest.
but that comes into the topic of masculinity now.
Uh-oh.
It does. It does.
Let's get warmed up. Yeah.
Honestly, they are trying to eliminate
They call it toxic, what's toxic?
They try to kill off
What?
we see as masculine man.
Now the thing is While I say What is wrong with a masculine man? Well I can tell you Why they think There's something wrong With a masculine man But that's because We're the gatekeepers Of morality
We are, men are always going to be the ones that lead revolutions. When you're in charge of a country or you're in charge of a populace, whatever it is, it's like the olden days. You walk into the new town and kill all the young men or the military-aged males, slit all the boys' throats because they're going to be a problem in five years.
That's what it is. So if you let's imagine, let me make up a fake scenario. Let me just invent something. Let's imagine you want to lock everyone in their houses because of the common cold.
let's imagine you're a complete tyrannical and you're a psycho. What you'd want to do is make sure that men comply.
It's only the men who can stop the compliance. There's only enough men in one place saying "fuck you". It's not women.
If all the women get into place, it's annoying.
But if all the men get in a place, it's a revolution. It's different. Call me misogynist, but it's true. It's large groups of men that are always going to be the backbone and fighting force and the number one thing they're afraid of. By reducing masculinity as a whole, you're reducing the warriors of society. They don't want people to stand up and say, no, we stand for these values and we will not let you corrupt our children this way.
So they have to try and attack masculinity at its core. Get you to the point where you're like, well, maybe it's good if I'm tolerant and they let...
and they poison everybody. That's what they want. Hollywood as well, you made a good point online that...
Now,
even the kind of lead male roles in films are being stripped away of their
The Arnie's and Stallone's
- While we all started training, when we used to box, or we used to train, which movie would you always watch? - Oh bro, yeah 100%. - Rocky. - 100%. - Everyone came out to Eye of the Tiger.
We'd be at the amateur boxing show, you'd have 15 kids in their little pants.
70 kilos, like, it was a thing, you wanted to be rocky. I bought those Argos York weights. - Yeah. - Made of sand, full of sand. - Full of sand. - Plastic. - That's why I have big arms and nothing else here, because I have a squat rack, just arm curling and laying on the floor and benching.
That was it. It was...
Argos is like... I know, I brought the books out. Carrefour, yeah. And it was the thing, our generation was that. It was either football, you want to be like Gazza, or you want to be like Frank Bruno in those days as a boxer, but Rocky, Mike Tyson.
Stallone, Arnie, this was our generation. Now like you said, it's Peter Parker, it's his kids.
Good actors, but I mean...
they're changing it without you realizing if you're saying they're like put it into your head
No Dolph Lundgren, no Arnie. Exactly. Like, it's crazy. Yeah, they're trying to deliberately convince you that physical strength doesn't matter because along with I personally believe I spoke about this earlier. I think that it's actually one of the most crazy things about the modern world is that people think that your mental strength and your mental resilience has absolutely no bearing on your physical strength and physical resilience.
It's like your mind is inside of your body. And people talk about mental health and they want to keep mental health completely segmented from your physical health and also from your lifestyle. Like, they're so...
They're linked. When someone comes along and goes, what about mental health? I say, okay, right. We can talk about mental health, but you're fat as fuck. So let's, let's start here. No, but, but you can't ignore that. Or they'll come to me and say, I'm depressed. It's like, okay, but we won't talk about mental health. That's fine. But your life is shit. You are objectively a loser. Like you can take pills to pretend you're not a loser or try and forget the fact or be happy with the fact you're a loser. But if you're going to live that lifestyle, let me tell you something, my friend, if I was you,
I'd be depressed.
So you can't ignore these things. I think it's a two-way sword as well where some people are in a bad bit of health, so it makes them depressed. Some people are depressed, so it puts them in a bad bit of health. So there's that. But either way, it doesn't excuse the fact that action is the remedy. And what you say there about mental health and physique as well, for martial arts, like,
People don't understand when I say Brazilian Jiu Jitsu helped my mental health. I know what you have to say about BJJ. Do you know what? I won't get started. I'm not going to try and pull guard against you here, but still...
It's true. You actually need to line up the body with the mind. You need a distraction. And also, I believe all human beings are problem solvers, and we need to constantly be thinking and challenging and developing areas of our life. A lot of people out there that, let's say, are obese or struggling with mental health,
bar their job and their relationship, often, imagine this, right? I say to people, "Color you'd have to say, eat less."
If you don't enjoy your job and you're in a meaningless relationship,
I'm not surprised you spend the other five hours of your day eating calorie-dense foods. And if we can't address and get into people's minds to say,
you need to be in a serving relationship or be single, which is probably gonna benefit them. Everyone knows how shredded you get after a breakup.
But also the work component is massive. So many people have been bred to kind of just go to work, clock in, clock out.
Happiness is a currency we don't even talk about anymore. So, you know, if we're not going to say do a job you enjoy or we're going to use money as a standard metric of success, then we're almost breeding people. And no one's coming along, as you say, to actually say to them, sort your life out.
Find something you enjoy.
It's absolutely bonkers that
It's perfectly acceptable. You couldn't even say that. Let's say you're sat on a plane. I've been on a plane before.
and the lady next to me couldn't get her tray down, so she had to use mine. And I thought there at that moment, the only person
less comfortable than me is her having to ask me that.
And I felt like saying like, hey,
I'm a PT, can I help? I didn't want to be condescending, I didn't want to offend her, I didn't want anything to kick off on a plane and I was like
wow, I'm in a position now in my life where
I can't even say to someone, hey,
do you want some help? Do you want some advice? Because then you're fat phobic.
But this is the thing. We talked about this started with an attack on masculinity. I think the reason there's such a large men's mental health crisis is because of the attack on masculinity. When you tell people with an innate desire to be masculine, whether it's God given, whatever, like you said, they have innate desires. We're all born with innate desires. God has told us some things are just wrong and some things are just right.
and you have an innate desire to act a certain way, and then society is telling you that if you act that way or if you have those desires in any way, you are a bad person.
That's where the men's mental health comes from. That's where all these men are sad and depressed. It's because they're like, you know what? I'm not supposed to want to just get big, get strong, get important, get a hot girl, get a nice car. I'm not supposed to want that. I'm supposed to want this.
This is garbage. And they sit in this middle area. The happiest people I know are people who are unapologetic.
I'm just saying, yeah, this is what I want. I truly believe it's something natural. It's like you're saying, where do rules come from?
or who decides.
even if we're born we're stuck on say some island everyone's throwing us their
Mums give birth. We all know without having any education, any religion, anything, that we wouldn't sleep with our own mum.
We wouldn't.
No one is going to say, I'm going to fuck my mom or I want to marry her.
It's natural inclination. You know it's something inside of you that tells you that.
Everyone's built with this kind of
God's given you that. Whether you believe in God or a power or whatever, there's something given.
to everyone's human being, this natural,
in relation to something where a guy
wants to jump off a tree like we used to break our arms or
do something daring, yeah, yeah, or the girls more
more caring or
affectionate in a way I'm not saying men on I
Everyone has to, to a degree, have every attribute.
But the woman for me, I put them on a pedestal, is a university.
I like what you say. Women shouldn't be ashamed of being housewives or wives. Look at our mums. My mum was the boss.
My dad was like the one...
If my dad came, it was serious with a stare, yeah? But the mum, she put me in gyms, she told me to do sports, she do... They're the university, everything you learn was kind of from them.
Without them in society, that kind of role, society also
not only masculine men but without that role of the mother or the
Wife.
The next generation's finished. I think the family
it's starting to descend as well. And that's dangerous. But you can't be a masculine man without a feminine woman. How can you be a masculine man if your woman tells you to get fucked?
then it's hard, right? So there's the synergies all destroyed. And this is the thing. I don't think he's even...
I think feminism is the old days of feminism. I think what they thought was okay. I
We want equality in a way. We want to be able to drive. I understand that. Even if they can't drive in videos. Bro, don't give me cattle. No, I say it to my mum all the time. But...
The point is there's this new movement, I won't even call it feminism. I won't. Because even JK Rowling, I admire her work and what she's saying. For me, she's a powerful woman.
self-made billionaire, you could say,
And she's against
this kind of system. She's saying that's not feminism.
I want to feel safe in my own kind of
sanctuaries, I want to feel safe in a bathroom. Imagine poor women who have been sexually abused or whatever, having to share
can you imagine me in a week coming and saying I identify as a woman and going for a pee and you're a
Bless you. Imagine a woman who's been
sexual assault or rape in her life, and I'm walking in a public toilet and she sees me.
It's intimidating.
So I understand what they mean too. So for me
they've used that feminism word to the wrong way. 'Cause you can't, like, I've got daughters,
And I was always like, fuck, feminism doesn't make sense. But I'd want them to achieve something. But also be mothers, be a good wife and respect them out as well as he respects them. But also be a Kamala Harris or...
I mean look I can't even name a role model
I can't even name a female role model right now, apart from a JK Rowling maybe. That's what's scary. I get slammed a lot. When we do fitness events, I try and get women speakers to come. And I'm championing them in the DMs. I'm like, hey, I think you'd be amazing. You've got this incredible fitness business. Would you like to come?
And people look at the lineup and they go, "Oh, there's no women there."
you guys are sexist, there's only male speakers here
I'm like, guys, I was messaging twice as many women as I was men, and whether or not they feel insecure, or they've got like imposter syndrome, or whatever it is, I was like, how is your first response that I'm sexist when I'm trying my hardest to get like an even playing field of speakers to events, and it is like a really...
It's so bad that people portray that in that way. And again, there was a woman who was doing a lecture, I saw her on Twitter the other day where she said,
Men are told of the women.
and people stood up, they started kicking off, and they were like, it's a statistic. When we do censors on people's, like, you know, anatomy, that's a fact. And people are like, no, but not all women. And they're like, of course there's gonna be outliers. But it doesn't change the rule. And again there, where you talk about the traditional family,
Billions of families have coexisted with these gender roles that have served
so many people over so many years.
we are not saying there aren't outliers we're not saying there are not some women that are taller than men what we're saying is
you know
There is every opportunity for and probably now where there's more discourse and arguments and hatreds and cancellation there are
more opportunities for women than ever. There are more women CEOs than ever. They're better educated than ever. You know, and even me saying that is going to rile up a lot of people. This is the best time ever been. Even the mortality rates of women giving
when women die during pregnancy, that's halved in the last 10 years. Like there are so many advances that we've had that aren't being celebrated and we're just picking apart little things that people are saying. And even what you're saying there, you're like, oh, I think the women are better at looking after children.
Anyone in the world would agree with you on that, but then you say that on Twitter and
they're coming for you.
It's a natural inclination for like,
Look at the animal kingdom, the way
The mother protects.
The woman, the lioness protects the man hunts, but she protects the food she pretends to think.
It's just society is trying to, in a way, that's when...
I was saying like, what he's saying is resonating. They're trying to kill that off. They see Islam in these...
religions, ethics, oh you're backward.
It's a...
you force someone, they don't realize people choose to cover themselves.
I'm not saying cover or not, it's everyone's prerogative, what you want to do, but
when they say to you, "Oh, you're kind of..." What's the word? You're... - Oppressing. - Oppressing.
How is it oppressive? And my goal is this:
give me your pin code for your bank account or your ATM. You'll never do it.
Women to us, we put them here. Like they're our diamonds, our gold. You're not gonna show me what your pin is or give me your bank account. Same as our women. We don't wanna share them. Call that selfish, call that territorial.
We see them as
like
I don't want to share, I don't want her to be seen by everyone. You know so, I'm not saying my wife's covered, I'm saying that's what our thing is, whether it's covered or not.
we see it as territorial, we see it as protection, so it's the status we give them.
and
People think it's oppression. It's not oppression is like you said,
you have to wear a mask, you have to be locked down to this, that's oppression. But I want to say something.
Don't you think men are ruining that as well?
How? I'll say for example, let's say now
people are now idolizing all these Instagram models wearing bikinis and all these girls doing like
Haram behaviors, right?
You go to a party, what type of girls are there messing around with every guy? It's those Haram girls type of thing, right? Good point.
and now a lot of people not saying any of us let's say
They might now have that good woman at home, but now they're still going to the party, chasing these girls, which are doing nonsense.
and now that the wife at home sits there like hey I was a good woman I was staying loyal
and he's just gone with another
girl doing some messed up stuff. - This is a novelty subject, we're gonna get into. - And I feel like a lot of men, like I don't know anyone here if you guys are doing that, but I think a lot of men are ruining that and that's why I think
I think 20 years ago,
Men cheated on women and now it's starting to become the reverse. Women are just doing what men did 20 years ago.
it's... And I feel like that's why. 30 years ago...
your mom, your mom, none of them would have been out messing around in parties, nobody.
I think you guys can agree with that. 30, 40, 50 years ago, they were actually at home. But then that whole shift became of parties and girls wearing bikinis and messing around and sleeping with men. But why do you think that shift came? I'll tell you why. In my opinion.
Mark Zuckerberg I think a lot of it is due to men Mark Zuckerberg is to blame those days let me tell you what it is and this is my opinion hate me for it
We all had girlfriends and stuff for like Maharam days, yeah?
You split up. She'd sit at home, there was no social, she listened to Mariah Carey cry, called her friend,
on the old "nng" yeah he said just just ignore him or send him a love letter and she'd be crying listen to music she'd be consoled
It would be like that, you won't speak, you'd see her, whatever, you know?
then she'd wait until you came back or whatever.
Nowadays it's not. You've got Anthony Joshua,
twin
yeah 6 foot 5 with a
arm, my leg, sitting there going
Poke.
And she's looking at me with my nose thinking, he tricked me. Like, what is this? Yeah, you annoy her.
Boom. It's easy. Instagram, social media, the DMs they get, bro.
The DMs they get is easy, so they think,
I don't need to chase this guy no more. That's the problem.
That's the problem. And not all women, but... The guys are rewarding that as well. Yeah, yeah. Guys have always been sleazy, but now guys have got more of a channel for it. Yeah, but then aren't... Like I'm saying...
aren't.
- Is guys also a big part of the problem? - No, but it's gender roles, like in my opinion.
Yeah, I think that
Saying earlier what you just said about wearing the wig and going into the bathroom, the only reason that even happens in the world is because not enough masculine men stand up against it. And the reason all society degrades in basically all realms is because not enough masculine men exist. I would sit here and argue that the reason there are so many women...
acting in this way
is because nobody's telling them not to. And the men who used to tell them not to don't. I live in Romania. I chose to live there. I'm 0% ethnically Romanian.
If I go on a date with a 26 or 27 year old girl, she has to be home at 10 because her dad said so at 27.
You don't see that in the West. It's just a different society. So I'm saying that as you destroy the masculinity as you destroy the protectors of society, everything degrades. We can talk now about.
The bathroom situation, we can talk now about women running around being crazy. We can talk now even about men being crazy to a degree. When there's no longer strong masculine role models to say, "No, this is stupid. That's stupid."
then everything falls down. But let's say you right now. Yeah.
like are you ever looking to get married or have one lady that's like that's your partner
- That's a good question. If I was married, I certainly wouldn't say on a podcast. And yes, absolutely. I do believe in family and I do believe in having a link. - And in that situation, would you, that's it? No other women?
I don't, and that's a, this is going to get me in trouble. This is going to get me in trouble. And I think I've answered this before in a lot of different ways. I will sit here and argue the point that I truly believe that if a man has a woman he completely loves, and if he does do X, Y, Z, he still loves that woman, he wants to be with her forever, and he will die for her. I don't think it's the same. I don't think that a man doing that is anywhere near the same as a woman doing that. I think that we're completely different evolutionarily. I think they're different things. I think comparing them completely and putting us on that equal, on that equal playing field isn't fair. I don't think it's a fair thing to do. Okay, if you did that, would you be honest to your partner about it?
Knowing that you could lose them.
- Yeah, I mean, this is an interesting argument. - Be honest, would you genuinely, like you have the love of your life, would you be honest? - It depends on the particular relationship, right? Some is better to be honest, some it's not. But my point is that I know what you're saying, but comparing men and women in that paradigm, I don't think it's a fair comparison. I think that since the dawn of human time,
men have always had more than most masculine men
the top, the kings, the knights, the leaders, they always had more than one woman. They had their wife and they had their concubines, etc. I think that's the way that humans have been evolved to be.
I think that men have always been this way to a degree. I think that women even instinctively themselves know it, brother. This is the point. Women instinctively themselves know it. You think of a woman fucks Ronaldo, she thinks, oh, yeah, he's loyal. They don't give a shit. They don't care. So my point is that humans have been set up a certain way. Society has come along saying one man, one woman. That's a good thing. I agree. That's good overall for society.
I don't think that now saying that
a man should completely ignore all of his base instincts is 100% the answer to it. I'm thinking that the answer to it is for women to be the gatekeepers to the sexual marketplace because they always have been and they need to be. If women become promiscuous, men will fuck. It's always been that way. Now, all the way through history, it's the women who said no.
So to interject on your point then about the man with the woman and going to the club, then there's a crisis with men where they don't distinguish the difference between pleasure and happiness. So you can live a life of happiness without pleasure. And if you don't believe me, you can go to Asia where they literally getting by and they're happy as fuck. But you cannot live a life of pleasure without happiness. And we see this with drugs, gambling, you know, people that just throw their lives away partying.
And what they're doing is they're trying to fill their happiness quota with pleasure, and it ends in turmoil. So if we can get men and women to a certain respect to appreciate that the happy things in life are the family, the friends, you know, the cup of coffee in the morning, maybe with a cigar, that's the thing that brings you that happiness, like I love my life and the pleasure is the Bugatti, it is the everything else, the private jets, whatever.
We can get that to people so they can really appreciate that, so that when they do get the temptations to go to the club, they're thinking,
Am I doing this for pleasure or happiness? Because happiness is sat in my home with the relationship I've been in, and pleasure is the black hole. And you can never fully sustain that hunger for pleasure. It is a black hole that consumes a lot of people. So it's not the answer to the question, but as like a precursor to that,
if someone can truly, honestly identify in their life when that can happen, and I've had this where I have stints where I stop drinking, and when I drink, I go, I have a good time. But,
I think to myself, I'm giving up happiness for pleasure. This isn't a good deal. I need to stop. But wouldn't that be like ultimate masculinity if you could?
Could what? Like resist the pleasure?
like it's not about being able to resist i understand the point you're trying to make there's a lot of things i i will talk to you about later about this stuff there's a lot of things i get i'm just trying to make the argument right now you know it makes the podcast good so yeah yeah no but and i completely understand what you're saying i believe that we have to look at humans societally and you also to look at us evolutionarily as animals evolutionary as animals men were out there trying to find women women were the gatekeepers to the sexual marketplace women were the one who said no to men and i think at any time in history if women became easy men would
I think, truthfully... Hormones. If you look... Not even hormones. I think you can go base level. You can be far more...
You can be far more
more brutal about it than hormones. There's a large contingent of men out there who would be happy just to sleep with endless girls, have endless kids with all of them and see them all a little bit and just be the G. There's a bunch of men out there who would be happy to do that. If you look at some societies on earth today, that's basically what men do. That's all they want to do. Yeah, they love the kid. Yeah, but you know what? This one, that one, this one, that one. That's that's baseline. Women.
We're entrusted for the longest period of human history to be the ones who said, no, I want a man of this virtue. I want a man who acts this way. And that's going to allow us to become a family. If women are not going to have any kind of standard, and also if women aren't going to act in a feminine good way, you talk about men going to the club and chasing other women. Most men who are doing that, their woman at home ain't worth shit.
They ain't got home to go home to
You're talking about having one woman. Yeah, I'll have one woman if she's a good woman. You give me one of these fucking random chicks, and I come home and, because the house is dirty. I'm like, bro, I'm going, what the fuck? But this is the reality. There's roles to play, right? And these roles have to be played. But for you to sit and say, I know what you're saying.
And there are some good men and you get to a certain point in your life where you certainly give that crap up. It's not interesting anymore. Yeah.
but
I think that the problem with...
When you're talking about promiscuity in these things, I don't think men are to blame. I think men are just intrinsically lying to be that way. I think women should be saying no to this.
Yeah. You're in a relationship. You're in love.
She goes, "Hey Mo, I want to go to Mykonos with a girls trip. Do you let her go?"
Probably, yeah.
then we fundamentally disagree, my friend. - I mean, look, I'm saying I probably would, I'm not gonna lie, I probably would let it happen. Would I want it to happen?
Probably not.
So why, if you don't want it to happen, why wouldn't you say you're my woman? I don't want this to happen. But also, I think it just depends, like, how far into the relationship. Of course.
But I think in that case, like, she would know where her boundaries are, what I would want from her, you know?
So I'd say just go with me. - So therefore you're more of a master, yeah. - Just go with me, you know, in that point. But I'm saying if I'm dating someone for two months,
I don't think I really have to say like, "Hey, we're one month in, don't go here." You know? Like, obviously, I think the more serious it gets, like, if we're married, you should just go with me anyways.
I know what you're saying. But you're... I agree with you, but you're hoping she knows those boundaries. No, no, but I think at that point, I think it'll be just like very sad. Okay, I have a question. So obviously, I get what you mean about...
Theoretically, in this magical world, Andrew Tate has a wife.
amazing wife cooks, cleans and keeps you excited enough.
like sexually, house, everything in that sense.
Don't you think you'd just be given that you wouldn't want to do anything with other women? Absolutely.
So that's something there is a hope. - At a certain age.
But I don't think there's a 21 or 22 year old man on the planet you could find and give a good woman to and he wouldn't be tempted by other women. I don't think that's intrinsic side of men. No, I understand that. Because they haven't had enough experiences in life. Because they always look and say, what if that? What if that? The only men I know who have truly settled down are the men who have had so many women that they're over it.
There's also a large contingent of men who never have their friends. I want to say one thing. You said about guys who will always naturally go to women, right?
But this is something I've kind of spoiled, you can correct me if I'm wrong.
A lot of men, like not everyone, but I see they always like, I think people always want something new, something different, right?
And a lot of men that have been with a lot of women just get bored of being with women.
Have you seen that? - It's not, I think it's a
You learn to appreciate what you have at home more because you let me tell you what happens when you have a whole bunch of girlfriends long enough.
I say this all the time, not on podcasts, I think I've ever said this on a podcast, but I said it certainly in private.
I appreciate my Ferrari because I've driven a Toyota.
That's why. You get to a point where you end up, if you have enough women and you have a good woman at home, you say, I know there's nothing out there I want.
I've done it. - I need to buy a book of quotes, I swear. - But it's true. - It'll be a best seller like him. - But if you don't, you don't know, right? So I'm telling you, the men who settle down are men who can come home and you go, you know what? I've been a piece of shit this week and every single one, I don't wanna talk to any of them girls.
That's the point you get to something down. I'm not saying it's me, but I'm older than everyone here, and I've been around...
I've done things I don't want to talk about when I was younger.
when you, not Alphamea, but in these industries, we were kind of popping our own ways, you know? Around there, you tough guy, wannabe, with or whatever, you know? You had street cred. In those days, that was status, there was no social media, you know?
and um
Well, the thing is with all this, like he said,
it's not even about love or disrespect men
and my belief is built with them. I have other gyms, it's like the barber shop, we speak to them and I see everything going on.
Majority of men even married like
Alpha you name it plumber whatever they go to these mass art they do everything and
They don't see us cheating. Men, it could be me with a wig, bashing one out for the guy. Yeah, like a woman looking like me. And he's like, yeah, he's closing his eyes. He pretends it's Pamela Anderson.
He gets a fix and goes, I'm literally, it's that culture.
And I swear to God, no, but without intent, they don't mean, for them it's like a wank and I don't want to be like cruel on it.
Men are different. For a woman to cheat or do something, she has to be in love. The average woman has to feel some kind of emotional attachment to a man to do something, anything physical.
Believe me, I'm not so my only fans in this new generation of
There's fresh and fit chicks you see, but they will never do that. It's impossible.
They have to have an attachment, they won't do it if they don't feel love, they won't go that physically.
made it different.
Mate, like, listen, imagine putting a camera in your room
filming yourself masturbate, you'll never do it again.
watch yourself go... you'd never do it again. My mate told me, a priest, a scholar, like an imam, a Muslim guy, he said to me,
I said, "It's masturbation, you know, like where he goes,
- Of course it is, he goes, number two, he goes,
Because also, just record yourself doing it one day, you'll never do it again. And I just laugh my head off. Imagine! You're on this camera, me, big upper body, little legs, going, "Yeah, I like ya!"
And then you get the tissue, it's embarrassing.
But men are dumb like that. We are like, we are in that way. It's men.
We don't mean by it, and it's like you said,
for history is not likely i'm not saying
Your lad, if you can look after them,
evenly
you can have four wives? Why? Because God knows in a man's system, men always want to be like that. But also, good thing you said this, Samphire, I think it also says that
Mm.
your let's say if you're not the second life your first life should know about the second life
So there needs to be transparency and that's what I was getting to with Andrew. I say would you tell them? Well, yeah, I wouldn't come home and say hey just just been busy with this girl, but I don't I also think that it's a fine line so I can talk from personal experience in my past life. I'll tell a new man now, but I
I think that women, I also truly believe that women intrinsically know when they're with, when they're with a guy of high enough value, they, they kind of get it.
Where were you? Out.
Okay. Love you. Love you too.
They get it. They ain't that dumb. They're not that dumb. They may pretend to be dumb. It would be disrespectful for me to sit her down and go, okay, let me describe her tits.
That's disrespectful, right? But there has to be a point where a lot of women, I can talk, especially in Romania, let's take Eastern Europe or Russia in general.
I know guys from Russia.
and they're sitting with their wife, and they're like, to their wife, look, we've got to talk business now. She's like, okay, no problem, see you tomorrow, da da da. She knows, she knows. That one's stupid. Everyone knows. - I don't know, it's that bra with her.
I'm not sure if it's relational or whatever. His woman or wife or girlfriend will expect, he's gonna get DMs, he's gonna...
they're in a spotlight and they're in shape and they're
You're gonna get, I don't want to say groupies, fans, girls and temptation. And they're gonna expect also, she wouldn't be shocked if he was caught hugging a girl, touching a girl's hand even.
She'd be upset, slap, but she wouldn't be shocked.
They're shocked at the...
And I don't want to say these words.
There's certain statuses, I think,
I believe in the Alpha, Beta, Gamma kind of scenario in Men2, I do.
And I'm not dissing any, everyone's got a role. My dad's not alpha.
He's strict but he's not. There's differences. This Alpha Metal Fitness does Jiu-Jitsu trains X-Fighter
physically fit
outgoing
speaks themselves. They're a different kind of man in the first place. The woman who settles with him already
is attracted to that kind of thing, but she knows the risks. That's why you always hear, they settle for safe men. I hate that term. But you see a lot of the girls in college, you say, the moment the girls in college are the popular ones, you see them later on, they're with a...
You're out of the show. Look, I'm just saying, but a guy you would never think they'd expect to be with. Why?
and you speak to him and go, "It's secure." Because I know he'll never cheat like a guy like you. Jordan Peterson mentioned a quote on this where he was saying that
Women that pick a low status man are doing so for the safety. The fact that it's not volatile, it's like putting money in the S&P 500 rather than volatile stock. But then the chances of them cheating with a high status man for a one night affair, which would be out of that quota of being in love with them, is much higher.
But you're talking about then the volatility of when you do go for a high status man, you can't have the best of both. And I think that is definitely a conversation to be had.
You need hierarchies in life. Again, Jordan Peterson, put the lobsters in a box...
There needs to be a pecking order even in corporate structures there are but it's crazy that you
even talking about it can make us seem like we're
talking about bad things. No, and we're not, but you're completely right. There is a hierarchy. And also you nailed it. I think a lot of women know what they're getting into with certain men. I could, let me put it this way.
I've never had a woman leave me for cheating.
I've never been caught cheating on a woman leaving me, ever.
I'm not- No, I've had her go crazy.
I've had her get upset.
of how to go mental.
but I've never had her walk out the door.
to blow people's minds even further, I've had women
who were engaged
left their partner for cheating,
got with me, caught me cheating, stay with me.
There's certain orders, and I'm saying that. Any woman who's going to get with a certain type of man may expect certain types of favors. They may not want to see it. They may not want to be publicly disrespected.
They may not want all these things, but they might be kind of like,
He was away for the weekend. - I'll say one thing and you might hate me for it, but it's also kind of similar to what you said. You know how you said like, women obviously want to be with high value men.
And I think if you're with a high-value enough woman,
Either she would leave you
or should be so valuable that you wouldn't want to take the risk of losing her. Does that make sense? And I think like, as you said, if you have that woman, that's like, oh, okay.
like cooks for you, cleans for you, is keeping you very
Pleasured or whatever and also like making your own money crazy stuff. I think also I see a bunch of women that are
play men because they're just so high valuable and these men are just coming running at them and then they get dumped and then she just goes off. She doesn't care. So I think definitely being a high value person.
is the attraction. - For me, I wanna be honest. - The most beautiful women on Instagram that you can possibly find.
Do you think they're fucking a guy who doesn't cheat on him or does cheat on him?
I don't know. Well, I can tell you the answer. It's going to blow your mind. I know. Because I'll tell you who the fuck is.
because 18 of them are all on one guy's boat.
And they're all getting fucked. That's what's happening. So you're saying a high-value woman won't do it. I'm telling you, the highest-value woman look for the highest value. But the ones you're saying on Instagram, they're like, okay, what's the high-value? Followers, like, none of them really have money, to be honest. Of course, I know. But the point I'm trying to make is
just because a woman's objectively beautiful, and let's say she's successful, and she has money, et cetera, doesn't mean that she's going to instantly walk out the door. But I'll be honest, those girls on Instagram, like, I see like every, one million, take one million. None of them are actually, like, that attractive to me at all. I think what this comes to as well. You know what I mean? I'm sure for you even, like, if you, you know what I mean? I know what you're saying, but I'm just trying to make the point. Yeah. No, no, no, I agree with the high value. I think it comes down to more as a,
like belief. For example me,
in my Shah Aliya Haram days.
I never did the drugs alcohol. My fix was women. I'm a natural man.
Horny every day, you know the old saying, if you don't wake up for morning glory, your testosterone is low. Mine was not pissing up there. What's going on, Mum? I don't know.
God, like I live by Islam now, you know, so I really like... I practice my religion. Men have the role, women have the role. No, but I think also we can't also be animals in society. Yeah. I believe there's a system and that's why it comes to religion. And I'm not...
pushing an agenda here.
But...
Being a Muslim gives me that agenda like,
motivationalise my kids, so when I see my daughters,
I feel it's a duty for me
to have a certain... They've got to be proud of me. Even if I had some inclination, I wanted to do something, I would never want to lose their respect. So for me, if I did it, I'd be open and say, I want to have a second wife or this...
- That's me, I want my daughters to find out and lose that respect for me.
I'm the first man, I'm the last man I respect. - That's something that I really think is- - So let me ask you a question about. I got a good question for you.
Because I think the way to simplify this argument, because it's a detailed one, it's a nuanced one.
The way to simplify it is this.
I think men who are loyal want to be.
which is fine. I'm not telling men not to be loyal. If you want to be loyal, be loyal, right?
I think that obviously there's religious implications, like Tam said, and there's certain moral codes people live by that will make them want to be loyal. Right. But let's imagine religion is not in the case. And let's imagine that you have a woman who's going to stay with you no matter what. She loves you. She's yours. She's going to stay with you no matter what.
And you could sleep with someone else if you wanted to, and she wouldn't even give a shit.
Are you telling me for the rest of your human life you wouldn't fuck anyone else ever?
I couldn't answer that. I have yet to... I would argue the fact, but my basic argument... But, no, I think if, obviously...
As I said, to be honest,
I think if the person can keep you excited long enough, but I think that's probably impossible. No, it's not- it's not about that. My argument is if you were to get every single man and be completely honest with him,
and you being honest with you and say, listen, this is your wife. She ain't going to leave you. She ain't going to get upset. She's going to stay with you no matter what. Don't worry about that side of it.
And you're out with the boys and you're going to be with this woman for the rest of your life no matter what. And there's all these hot girls around.
"Are you gonna be loyal forever?" The answer, every single man to be honest is,
I'm going to end up chasing one of these chicks. Of course, 100%. You know, a lot of people watching this are going to think you're a piece of shit for what you've just said, but...
your honesty,
needs to be appreciated for your, the integrity of not lying. No, I get it. Like, okay, theoretically in that situation, I'm pretty sure even if someone like me said no right now,
than if that is the whole truth. It's like telling someone, oh, for example, you just asked him a really dumb question. Would you punch your mom for a billion dollars? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - What are you gonna say? Would I punch my mom for a billion dollars? Everyone's gonna say no. - Yeah. - Because that's not a real thing that's gonna happen. No one's gonna come give you a billion dollars to do that anyways. - I understand. - So obviously, in that situation, I get it. I'm probably gonna say no right now, 'cause that's never gonna be an option for me.
But the underlying truth... There are certain men in the world... That have that option. That have that option. Who can get a woman who's never going to leave them.
Because there's nowhere else to go, and they only want to go up, and you're at the tip, tip, top, and they're never going to leave. And they're going to go, well, what? Realistically, the question is, you probably would, yeah. It comes down to us again.
when they settle with certain guys they marry, they know what comes with the baggage. Yeah. They know specifically what comes.
when a woman gets with Mike Tyson or
yeah of course they know these guys oh well these rappers or Drake they know
so that's part of the game they're not going to go he did that everyone will be like what do you mean like them girlfriends will laugh so that's his point they know and these kind of guys that's their life you want to be a part of that you've got to understand if baggage will come he might travel for four months
He might say this, that's part of the game. - If you buy a Nissan, you buy it for reliability. And if you buy a McLaren, you buy it for speed. You do not buy a McLaren and then be offended and upset that it doesn't want to start. That's the game.
Angite, you're a very successful person because you make good decisions.
Right? There's no other. Whether it's fighting, whether it's whatever, there's a part of me inside that
hopes that in the future
You maybe go against your word and there's one woman.
You know, the Waheed. Does that mean the one? I think there will be. I think there will be. Let's think. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. No, the point is, this is very important for everyone watching at home.
If I had one woman I was completely in love with, if I had children, if I had a happy marriage, the last thing I would do is advertise it to the feral psychopaths in the internet. So I want everyone to understand here that I could be married right now with children and I would never ever sit here on the internet and say it. I will also understand that
I'm a certain age, but I'm telling you now, and I will say this is an objective fact. If you took a 23 year old.
who's completely in love with this woman, but she ain't going to leave. And he's in Ibiza with his boys for a week. And he's surrounded by girls. We all know what he's going to fucking do. Anyone who pretends he won't is a liar. Yeah, I think at that point, they haven't experienced life enough. So they're going to want to. You can be 60 and you can still do it.
Our dads would do it, bro. Let's not lie.
And if you also know the true baseline, you know, I used to talk about this a lot. I don't talk about it anymore. But I talk about how I used to run a webcam business, right? So a bunch of girls worked for me.
People go, how do you know this?
I sat for five years making millions of dollars watching married men send millions of dollars to single young Ukrainian chicks. Every man who's married, every man who's loyal, very few are as loyal as you believe. I'm telling you, you get the loyal men of Earth, a few are. 2%, 3%, 97% are either wishing they could do something and can't.
or trying to do something and they can't, or doing something.
That's the harsh reality. Was it Ashley Madison? There was a website for married people, the one who took up.
So if it was in America, I might butcher the name. So you went on there and you knew that it would be kind of
low-key because you're married and they're married so then they'd go on dates where they would sit in the corner and they would kind of scoot off together because neither of them could get caught they both had skin in the game. I think Anonymous hacked them and leaked their names to everyone. So like the fact and it was kind of disgusting at the time that
you know, we have this narrative of family life. And again, my mom and dad are each other's first girlfriend and boyfriend. They're still together now. So like when I see that, that's beautiful, but that's gone. - That's the point. - I agree. - Social media is a big reason for that. - Like we said earlier, your mother, these queens,
And when I was queen and my daughters would be queens but
It comes from... You have to have... Our way of thinking... This society... You have to have that kind of strong...
leadership in the house, otherwise that's gone.
That generation, unfortunately, I see it.
I feel sorry for the young guys and I feel sorry for the young women.
It's gone. They can't find partners because everyone's out there for a benefit or a social media post. Now for the people who are going to be offended by all the things I said and seem to say I'm horrible, right? Because I understand that some of the things I said are going to be offensive to others.
You also have to understand what you just said about first woman, first man together forever. That's beautiful. That's the ideal scenario, but it's gone. The reason your mother was probably such a fantastic partner to your father is because she respected her dad.
and then she got passed to your father, and now she respects your father, and they're together, right? There was masculine role models.
All that's vanished. So when people sit and say, when I say things like,
"Yeah, a man could have different girls, or we could have different girlfriends, etc." And people say, "Oh, you're misogynistic."
I'm giving the best advice I possibly know to men, because I'm telling you, if you're a man out here who's not gonna mess around with girls, not get any experience with women, not get experience with how they work,
find one girl and instantly fall in love with her, guess what's going to happen?
You're gonna get fucking wrecked.
You are. The man who just meets a chick, has no experience with girls, isn't really good at getting new ones. They're the ones who end up sitting lonely at 42, divorced by them fucking selves. Every single one of them.
The only chance you have as a man now is being versed enough in the game and having enough experienced women to not get played. These women are sharks, G. You've got to be careful. I'm saying these things. Oh, he's right. You can't be a man with no experience out here and just meet in your first chick and fall in love. Because 99% of the time, it's going to go wrong for the man. How was your first love? I feel like you got your heart broken. You said that, right? No, everyone said they're heart broken. It's not about that. Yeah, no, definitely. Everyone said they're heart broken, bro. Yeah, definitely. It's not about that. I'm saying that.
when men come along and ask for relationship advice to me, I'm like,
And you have, if you want to be good at something, you need experience.
BJJ
driving.
keeping a woman happy,
I can keep a woman happier than anyone because I've had a bunch of women.
If I didn't have a bunch of women, I don't think I'd keep a woman happy the same.
I really don't believe that. If you even asked, I'll argue something else. I don't know if this is true or not. If you asked a man if he wants a virgin, he'll say yes. If you ask a woman if she wants a virgin man,
No. She'll be like, "No."
I asked her, would she? - Honestly, in the West, I think you're right.
She wouldn't want a virgin man. They want men with experience, they want older men. So if you're going to be a man and say, for the sake of love, I want to forgo all of my own experiences.
and be less competent in the battlefield.
That's fine, but I'm telling you that you're putting yourself at risk. I think the best chance a man has now in the Western world
is the date.
Have a bunch of girls, date a bunch of girls, meet a bunch of girls, find the best one he can, and then perhaps settle down. But to sit and say, oh, I've met one now, I'm going to stop the game, da-da-da.
You're gonna get in trouble.
That's why all these men end up in trouble. - I think, like I said, there's a lot of truths have come to fruition here. What is your strategy? So let's say all of us here, we want love, we want to provide a structure for family. Ultimately, we want to sacrifice our lives in some respect for kids.
we're all hyper-competitive males who put full attention into it. You've done a lot in your life. I'm sure that when you have kids, you're going to be like, these are going to be, these are the next top Gs, right? So...
What kind of advice can you give? Because a lot of what you're saying, albeit I agree with a lot and disagreeing with a little bit of it,
what positive note can we give to people? Because if they do get the freedom of truth,
How can we put that into a positive tone? Yeah, absolutely. And the positive tone is completely to fall in love and have children and and and and have raised a stable family. That is the positive tone.
I'm saying that it's a very dangerous battlefield now. When you were saying, I feel sorry for the young people, so do I.
It's hard now. Imagine being 15 with social medias and these kind of things. It's nuts. Imagine being a 19 year old boy now. Every 19 year old girl you're in love with is on Instagram, dating 40 year old billionaires. It's crazy. And I'm saying that a lot of the men, a lot of the men who are the most heartbroken, who are most upset,
People underestimate
how important the relationship between a man and a woman is in the masculine life.
I can tell you right now you can give a man everything but if he's arguing with his chick
He's fucked, his head's fucked. His head's fucked. It doesn't matter. It's so important. And I'm saying the best chance you have to negate these things
is experience with women. You need a degree of experience as a man. Women innately want it. You see a woman who's unhappy with her boyfriend because he's simping or he's acting stupid or he always just chases me around. Women will tell you themselves, he's boring, he's this. It's true. You need to get to the point where you have enough abundance and you've been about the game long enough that you can say, that's a shit test. She's playing games, goodbye. You have to. And I'm saying the only way you can do that is with experience and abundance. So as a man, you need to...
Do your thing, get to a point where you meet the one and settle down. But to sit and say that that period where you do your thing isn't necessary, I completely disagree with that. I think you're going to end up wrecked if you don't do it. I understand you're talking about in the Western side for me.
I think religion. If you're both God-fearing and you live by certain...
or system of life,
if you truly both live by, for example, Islam and respect God,
the marriage is happy also. Because you know, there's boundaries. She cannot say a certain thing, I can't say a certain thing, I can't do a certain thing.
You understand? For me,
I'll agree with that if I, but as a Muslim, for me it's all about, the only reason I don't do things is because it's haram. Otherwise bro, if it wasn't haram,
If it wasn't Haram to murder, I'd murder everyone. - Yeah, yeah. - It's God what pushes me in my, no one else can tell me what to do.
- I think what I understand is, I think he says, okay, what you're trying to say is, ideally, yeah, if you fall in love, first love, you're both loyal, you're both happy, great, that's the ideal situation. I think the advice he's saying is the most realistic advice. But it is also like, can be taken wrong, 'cause it's like, you know what I mean? But that's the most realistic thing that works. - I have to give him more ammo for his impressions of me. - Yeah. - So, put on the bald cap. - Yeah, exactly. - Bugatti. - But the thing is like, ultimately,
A lot of people say shit about you, but I think the most important thing is what is your motive?
And that's a really hard question for people that hate you to respect because you want better relationships with people, you want people to be happier. Ultimately people don't realize that a lot of what you're saying is a cheat code to success because
You're not going to lie to someone that's getting into business and go, "Oh mate, it's easy."
You know, it's gonna be fucking, you set up your business, loads of money is gonna come in, you get yourself a sports car. You send to people, it's gonna be shit, this is gonna happen, this is the realistic outcome of it. Completely, and I'm telling you now that the men I know who have the best relationships with women now are men who had a bunch of women.
I don't want to talk from personal experience because I don't give my details away, right? But the men I know who have the best relationship with women now are men who had a bunch of women. There are men who have...
had a bunch of women to choose from in the first place, so they choose a good one. 'Cause if you have low choices at the beginning, then it's already a bad start, right? Men who had enough abundance to hold frame throughout the relationship,
They're the men who have the best relationships. I know men who have done everything right from head to toe.
From the absolute beginning, and guess what happened?
And I know men who've done the opposite and it worked out pretty good. Now I'm not saying that everyone should be degenerate. I'm against degeneracy.
I understand that degeneracy, that families are the backbone of society. I believe a man has a role when he's in a family. I believe in the idea of a man and woman being together. I agree with all of that.
But when someone watching this is 18,
and we're sitting there saying, "Yeah, family, you know, find love, fall in love." Then he meets some 18-year-old and falls in love with her.
the chance of them making it unfortunately, and it is unfortunate because I wish they would, is in the modern world with Instagram, with this, with everyone after his chick, when he's Joe Schmo, and fucking I'm messaging her, it's over. And I'm saying the best advice you can give the guy is, when he gets his heart broken and he's truly destroyed is,
You need to become a man that women don't leave.
- So you got to get in the gym, you got to get more important, and you got to get more women, and you just got to become that guy. There's no other way to do it. - Yeah, but I think what you're saying is right, but I think that's more of...
They need that confidence, that alpha male in them.
Because women, like you said,
women when they're with these kind of like sims or
Safety guys.
when that guy's a pushover, they tend to also themselves
draw away themselves. I've seen it. I've seen girls say to me, yeah, but he doesn't care what I do. He doesn't even call me. They don't like you. They hate that. They don't like you. They want that alpha. They want that inside. They want that guy. It's a sign of caring. Where are you? What are you doing? Not like,
being abusive. I'm saying, but you know,
that territorial thing women love that too it's innate in them I'm telling you
So that's what I understand what you mean.
that he wants them to be confident, that alpha male where you know,
Then you deal...
When you're more of an alpha or a confident man, you know how to take care of one, you know how to act around her.
Right, I think I've got it. Did you like that film yet?
She's alright, yeah, okay, whatever. You need experience. That guy comes up in the fiesta when I was young in school, the girls who were the hot chicks would be the guys in the college fiesta.
1.2 of the neon lights. Prodigy.
Are you like, uh,
do you want to go to cinema? And she's like, no, I'm going with Dave. And he's like, yeah, mate. With his, like, uh...
thingy cat, Cole Carney jacket because he had a car but it was like that then why because he was like the little guy the lad
But when I started fighting, when I was like,
Then they were just like,
They liked it because it's like,
the alpha, I say what to do. It's inbuilt in them, bro. It's inbuilt in a woman. It's in science, in my opinion. Religion's beautiful and it holds things together. And we're in Dubai, right? So we can talk about the religious aspects. But I'm telling you now, if you were to go to Los Angeles and be Mr. Nice Guy,
and have no experience with women.
you don't set a chance.
That's the bottom line of it. And so I may be coming across horrible, I may be coming across negative,
I maybe get called a bunch of names. I'm just being hyper realistic. And I'm telling you, if you're gonna live in LA, and your best chance of finding a woman who loves you is to have enough experience with women to find a good one, and also know how to act to keep her in love with you. That's what I'm saying. If you think you're gonna pull that off with your first chick ever,
- No, I get it. - What you're saying is like, imagine telling someone in business like, oh, first year don't pay taxes. And everyone watching, like, oh, you're so wrong. And oh my God. But you're saying like the most, 'cause I saw an interview once, you were just like, all right, if you wanna open a business, don't care about the licenses and this, and let's just start it. Once you start making money, then figure out the actual,
legal terms, but you can't say that online. You can't say don't do it. - I already did. - I mean, you said it, but I get it. But that's what he's saying in the girl boy situation. It's like, well, you can't say it, but he's like, well, I can. That's the realistic solution, right?
So I get it, you know? Yeah, the realistic solution, unfortunately, not even unfortunately, the realistic solution is experience for everything in life. We're talking about men and women here and we get dragged in these conversations and I get attacked with it. But you can take the same thing and apply it to anything else, to drive in a car, to BJJ, to anything. It's experience. The more experienced you are, the harder it's going to be for you to fall into a trap and get tricked.
And another thing we have to talk about here that we have not talked about yet at this point, and it's going to end up, I know this interview is going to bite me, so I'm going to say this here. Most divorces are initiated by women.
I would argue now that in your 40s and 50s, more men end up heartbroken and by themselves than women.
I'd argue that women can replace their partner quicker. I'd argue they get over their man quicker because of unlimited options. If you're the average man and you're 41 or 42 or 48 or whatever, and you're a trucker, you have a little bit of money, you're the whatever, you're an average dude. You got an average house. You got an average life. Your chick leaves you. Who are you replacing her with?
fucking nobody my friend nobody you are lonely for eternity she's out with god knows who she maybe the guys only pump her and disappear but she's never going to be truly lonely like a man is there's a reason these men are committing suicide there's a reason these men feel the way they do
And I'm telling you, these are the men who did everything right because they don't have any experience with women. They did everything right, perhaps, and they got wrecked at the end. Sometimes when you're playing a game, you're playing chess, right? And you're sticking to the rules. If your partner decides to just start moving pieces at random, you're going to get wrecked. And women are emotional creatures. And in the modern world, they're convinced to be emotional. People don't understand the Western world is convincing females. It's all about you, babe. Your truth. It doesn't matter what he's ever done for you. If you don't feel right, it's all about you. And they're destroying very good men who have done the right thing.
to that is to have enough experience to either get another one so you don't end up lonely forever or to see the signs of it coming or i'm saying if you're just going to be ignorant to it it ain't going to work out well that's the reality i hate this one thing and we spoke about this in the car but i want to do this on the podcast
Look.
your successful martial art, we say martial art,
Well done.
You've got the women that...
Do you not ever get bored like
You've got women, you've got cars.
private jets, people do the, you don't even do the Instagram pic, like you know everyone's in first class, private jets, you know, we hang out, I know exactly, you've got the watches,
Everything, you've got the status now as well. Celebrity status, not just your reach, you have everything.
And then you see a lot of these celebs like, bless them, like, in excess, I think, or...
Robin Williams, people have the same, but they end up killing themselves. Yeah.
I know what the reason, but do you not feel like, are you content? I mean now, inshallah, hopefully you are because of
I'm not sure.
Yeah.
Introductions to yourself and God, but
I mean, what is your life? Where's the fun? - That's a good question. And I will start by saying, 'cause it ties into the conversation we just had, women as a whole are something that I don't find interesting anymore. So I'm arguing this point, because I'm arguing for the young people at home. I wanna make it clear that the idea of me going, I'm rich, I wanna go out and get girls,
I'm long past that. And I'm long past that because
I think a lot of men do it for the ego. A lot of men like having women around them for the status. But when you get to a point of status, when you realize they're the one getting the status and you're not getting anything, then it's no longer fun. When they're the one who's like, I'm with Tate, here's this guy, here's this house, and you're like, I don't even know what's your name. It's no longer fun because they're the ones gaining status and you're losing status because you've got some random in your house.
I'm totally past chicks. So I'm actually...
I'm probably more loyal than you possibly believe. I only argue these points for the average man, a 22-year-old guy who had his heart broken. He's like, what should I do? He's like, we'll get a new girl. How? Get good with girls. What the fuck do you want me to say? But yeah, in terms of content, I think so. I think that...
Obviously, God has kept life interesting with this Matrix attack.
It was kind of easy before then, but he's kept it interesting. But I do think that contentment comes from purpose, and I feel like I have a purpose. So, yeah, I think I'm relatively overall happy. I don't, I'm not that interested in material possessions, although it looks like I am. I just buy them because I've made as well, right? You know? The way you drive your Bugatti, I can tell. I don't give a shit, right? I just have speed bumps. You drive it like as a taxi. I was like, I've had some nice, I don't know why.
My kids are listening.
- You're not having food in here, I'll get the rust, I'm like OCD. He's like, eh, I'm like, well this is a $5 million car. Like, you know me? I won't even drive it past 10,000 kilometers. Like, I'll put a track, all right, let me sell it now. - Yeah, yeah. - I was like, who does that? - Yeah, bro, I've wrecked it. But I do think contentment comes from purpose.
Um...
So, yeah, I would say I'm a relatively happy person, but...
I get asked this question quite a few times, and the only way I can answer it is I don't measure...
my own emotional state.
It doesn't cross my mind. I don't know how else to explain it. Happy or sad, I wake up with a very busy day.
and I have a lot to do.
And I guarantee on the saddest day I could possibly have, and the happiest day I possibly have, my work would get done. I don't, it doesn't cross my mind. I don't know how else to say it. Outside of like a family death,
or something massive that's plaguing my brain,
How I feel doesn't cross my mind. I don't know how else to explain it. I have things to do. - I think we're always, like, if you look back and say,
Were you richer when you were poorer or now?
What would you say? Were you happier when you were poorer?
now I think that we are I think that the good old days are constantly happening I think in ten years from now this will be the good old days exactly we're always living the good old days it's it's how you look back I feel like we always forget the negatives I right now we'll look back and say oh remember how fun that interview is how good times right but then
We won't remember like the bad stuff that happens this week and stuff. We just always remember the good. And I think the natural human brain learns to forget the pain. To say everyone's is different. Like for me...
have money this that
Me, it's just my kids like it.
I have to be home when they finish school and go to bed. I don't care what's going on that day, these two things, unless I'm really busy or I've got some cameras.
I have to be the way.
It's just me. This is my pleasure. I can't explain. Before kids I was like...
You know, I used to have my nephew.
and since I've got kids I forgot about him. You know, he was like, I was like, yeah, yeah. My sister, at least I'm mine, you know? It's just this kind of thing. Like, but my contenders is seeing them happy and my,
goal is to be successful after the point where I'm dead, where
Before I die, they're set.
It doesn't mean that's what, I just need to make sure they say, if God forbid I'm not, but they've got enough values and things,
And that stems from religion. But what I want to go back into is like, which has gone viral lately, as we saw.
and I want to bring this up on the podcast, you've recently
chosen to be a Muslim. And I want to say
What made you take that path?
My I'm not even nothing but my face is part of everyone. I wish I had a better outfit in that mosque because I'm every news from Pakistan to Africa Andrew Tate
Muslim prank with Tim Khan my name is Tim now like people get a little I've said the name right Tom Khan tag me in Instagram you know but
Like what made you to like
you've got everything and like to
to a lot of people saying, why would you want to be in a religion where there's certain boundaries? Why? Because you're living this life. A lot of Westerners will say, why would you be in Islam? Why? Like, what made you? Humans need boundaries. That's the first thing I'll start by saying. I'll say that I used to be an atheist. I like to believe that I found scientific proof for God. I think that there's an equal and opposite force. That was one of Newton's laws. And when you understand the evil that exists in the world today, there must be an opposite force to the evil, which has to be God. To sit around, to sit and say that the things that are happening in the world today aren't truly evil is ignorant.
And once you understand they're truly evil and that people are doing them on purpose, not on accident, you understand that shaitan exists, the demons exist, which means God must exist. So then you have to find the religion, which I believe you.
feel the most affinity to.
Truthfully, I think Islam is almost the only religion on the planet.
I look at other religions now and they don't have any red lines. They don't have any non-tolerance. If you're going to sit there and be tolerant of absolutely everything, then you stand for nothing. So how can you be a religion? The whole point of religion is exactly what you said. There are certain things you cannot do. If you're going to have a religion and say, well, you can do whatever you want,
Then you don't have a belief system. So it's almost like people say, why did you choose the Muslim religion? I sit and say, name another one.
Name another religion where you actually are sticking to guidance and adherence to certain rules to show respect to God. Name one.
And you can't, which means it must be the only one, which means it's the right one. So to me, it's pretty simple. Like, I don't think it has any...
I don't think there's any competition or alternative to it. And I've always felt an affinity for it. I've always been talking on podcasts about how much I respect it. Like, and if you're going to be religious,
You're going to choose the path you respect. I don't think there's any other choice. I see people say they're Christian all days long and I say, what does that mean?
Because I can name drag queens who are Christian. I can... No, but what does it mean? But what does it mean? It doesn't mean anything. And there has to be a degree. I mean, I'm attacked all the time and I get it. But there has to be a degree of intolerance inside of a rule set. That's what the rule set means. If a football game, offside rule is intolerance. There has to be intolerance inside of any set of rules. If you're going to come along and say we have absolutely zero intolerance and we're tolerant of everything, then you have no rules.
and then society degrades. So everything we were talking earlier about men, women, family, how all of the problems, all of the degenerate behaviors I'm advertising so men can protect their mental state instead of falling in love and ending up suicidal by someone who leaves them and cheats on them,
All of that can be prevented with a rule set. But it's only Islam that can do that. You can't go to a church and go, I've met a Christian girl. Don't worry. It's in the bag. Good luck, friend. We know what's going to happen. We know what's going to happen. So I don't think there's any competition. It has to be the truth.
It has to be the truth.
Mashallah.
Yeah, much like honestly, and I'm not do you get good Christians that we know you get of course you get good people of all kinds of course I's even drew is like in tech you get these traditional Christians, which I respect who are you?
also
can't practice their own religion because
Christian he has
Like you said, it's evolving to the point where it's fitting society, where Islam will never do that.
We spoke once and I said you could give me a billion ten billion dollars to say
They announce Islam, I wouldn't do it. And I mean it, you could put the cash,
straight in front of me
You could never make me do that. You could do that with anyone else. Religion should shape society. Society shouldn't shape religion.
And that's what's happened. Yeah, like
James, I'm not sure how many times you've been here. We could literally go to the beach now, sit somewhere,
all our phones, these watches,
You know, leave the car engine running and just leave. Come back in three hours, it's there. Only thing that maybe the battery dies.
Literally, no one will touch it.
because it's
stems from Islamic law.
And I think like when we're talking, I think
And I know a lot of Stig and as well, supporting when viral saying he's doing it for Cloud, he's not. And I can truly say,
I know for a long time and we speak of different things.
It was purely
his decision purely
to go in our mosque that day. It was just spiritual. It was UFC. We had about 50 people waiting for us in the restaurant.
We just went to pray and it was just,
It was just this kind of relaxation. I saw his eyes, he felt good.
And it was good to see because
He can't even be out once he leaves his door.
he has to put his face on he doesn't have to but
Ha, pick, shall you stop with one? 100 stop.
any mistake
he could do this from a long angle such punch in a moment
He's in that kind of world now. And I think he's got a lot of responsibility also because now
the Muslim world is very, as well, judgmental, unfortunately.
Beautiful religion, but the people don't judge by the... That's what he likes about it, because there is boundaries. Well, there is boundaries, but also I think that the bottom line of it all is...
James said earlier,
hedonism and pleasure, etc. is a black hole.
And if you don't have any self-enforced boundaries or boundaries from a higher power, you will never fill that black hole.
I've never been a degenerate person. I've never been degenerate when it comes to fornication. I've never been a gambler. I've never tried a single drug in my life. I've never tried steroids.
smoked a puff of weed, nothing. I've never been a degenerate guy. Bit of vodka, some cigars, and really hard work. That's fine. But I'm saying that the people who try and find happiness through endless hedonism, it's a black hole. And the truth to happiness is to come along and find some rule sets that you respect and agree and say, no, I don't do this. I don't do that. And you'll feel better doing that. And this is the reality of it. And this is how God gives you peace in your heart and in your mind.
you don't look at Five Palm and want to go. You just don't want to go. And it's so much better. You know the only, you know the Five Palm are gonna put a lawsuit on me. I love Five Palm. Yeah. There's not many people in your life
through probably the last 10 years that say no to you. And you see people
You know, I love Conor McGregor, right? But I feel like he hasn't got enough people around him to say no.
And I feel like sometimes Islam and religion, you put a higher power,
You have someone there that for the rest of your life, no matter, you could triple your net worth, tenfold, whatever,
you could increase everything, I think it's such a beautiful thing to have something above you that
is the real rule maker. You know the only thing better than having everything you want?
not wanting things.
I'm telling you, you get more peace in your heart from not wanting something than having as much of what you want of it. I'm telling you. If you were to ask a man right now, if we could cure ourselves and cure our hearts, if you were to say, let's talk about women because we talked about it a bunch, right? If you could give a man to have any woman he wants and he's running around having every girl he wants all day long.
there's still going to be stress. He's still going to be in in and out hotel rooms. He's still going to be driving in traffic, all this garbage. If you could make him click and not want him anymore, that's where the peace is. The peace is not having everything you want. The peace is not wanting things. That's the truth. I also think, you see,
It comes down to what is the purpose of life? Well, if I was to ask you, what is the purpose of life, or your purpose?
What's the purpose of humans?
What would you say?
to enjoy it.
just to
I feel like, for me, without being too pessimistic, I feel like when this fucking organic rock flying through the universe,
the
the human existence as a statistic from the Big Bang is a
even a blink of an eye is too generous.
fuck me and let's just enjoy it because
Some people believe that, myself, I'm not quite atheist, I've done magic mushrooms, and now I'm like, there's something.
You know, there's...
There was eternal blackness before life. There is a risk there'll be eternal blackness after life.
So I want to make sure that my time on the planet
I make the most. And you know what? We probably could all say this honestly, which is such a beautiful thing is, I would not trade my life with anyone else's. And I think that is the biggest blessing that I could ever have in life.
I agree with you.
Now that I'm religious
I can't wait till I start doing podcasts with atheists because I was the number one atheist. I was Mr. Atheist. And now I realize I was completely wrong.
Do you think 100% is wrong? No, but for me, and I'm going to feel like the one I believe...
I understand what you're saying as well, but
Then you've got to define him.
Wasp happy, everyone else has got a different kind of being happy.
then it's limitless in a way. We'll all be just like, it'll be a wild zoo.
I believe we're not, we're too perfect of a creation. The blink of an eye, science can't re-enact.
to be a big bang.
There's a purpose. Why are we sitting here? Why are these humans? Look how we are. The power, the way...
If the sun moved a few inches this way, we'd all burn. It went this way. Everything's so perfect. The veins.
The human eye, bro. Like things you forget. The nose, the smell.
There's a purpose for everything. I truly believe there's a purpose why we put myself and
and that's what I'm saying too but
I believe there's a thing like
We have mums. If your mum says to me, get me this, that, you run it. You go out of your way for her because she gave you birth. She created you.
I believe there's something out there, whatever you want to call it, I believe it's I Love the Career.
we're pulling itself
to satisfy them in every way we can.
show our at least respect, live by their rules,
But also spread the message and do something in that way. That's what I believe because I believe we're too diverse and too perfect and
of a creation to be just here
to pay bills, die, all this. There's a reason. And I believe the reason is, like, people laugh. I believe he became Muslim as well. He's got a huge... I think the whole Muslim world, he's at this point where
He could be...
like an ex-Khabib or Muhammad Ali. And you'll laugh, but I'm telling you, you'll hear this sound bite one day,
people are going to see him. He could change a lot of lives now because there's a lot of Muslim kids who are like...
You know, people in the shallows never had a roll muller too.
exercise. What about you? You're religious?
I'm Muslim and I was gonna say, do you think like even when you became Muslim
Do you think a reason was maybe you're going to like a tough time and you
Like good things suddenly came and you just felt there has to be something for it. No.
- I don't think so. And even at the height of my tough times, I'm not here to brag or act arrogant on camera. One of my advantages in life is my mental rigidity. I've always been that guy. So even at the height of the mass matrix attack, which we haven't even talked about at its full extent,
I've always been pretty good under pressure. That's how I've been. So I certainly wasn't under pressure and looking for, you know, a way to feel better. It wasn't like that. I just truly respect and understand that God is real.
and I truly respect and understand that
with my own eyes, what I've observed, the truest way to show respect to God is through Islam. It's the only thing I've seen that I truly respect, and it means that the religion as a whole has to be the truth. I can't worship something I don't respect. I can't be called something I don't respect. I don't know how else to explain it. But it's interesting, and he's atheistic, and I'd love to talk to atheists because...
I used to be the number one atheist, right? I used to believe... What changed that?
What changed it is, number one, observing all the evil in the world.
I don't think many people are perspicacious enough and pay enough attention and genuinely understand how evil the world can be and how evil it is. We hear about crime. We hear about certain things. But there are truly heinous things that happen on the planet every single day. Children getting murdered. People getting sick for no reason. Like all of this genuine bad things are happening in the world as well as the fact that I truly believe the agendas in charge of the world are genuinely evil. And there cannot be a force without an equal and opposite force. That's Newton's third law, right?
opposite for us. So if there's true evil, if you see Satan, if Satan appears in front of you,
You're going to believe in God.
Right. And that's what happened for me. That's the first thing. The second thing is, I think when you have negative experiences and I'm talking about truly negative experiences, I've had a few where you come close to losing your life.
or you meet other people who come close to losing their lives,
Nobody's an atheist at the end, my friend.
He will not be an atheist if he gets stabbed and he's about to die.
And he'll be praying to God like you've never seen. Atheists, stop being atheists quickly when the game gets real. So all of us innately understand in God. The most atheist man alive will pray if he really needs help. So I think we all innately understand God. God's certainly real.
God has, like Tam said, giving us innate understandings of what's right and what's wrong. And also, if we're going to talk about happiness, as James said...
We're here to be happy and we're here to enjoy ourselves.
it's through God that you're happy and enjoy yourself. It's not through that black hole of hedonism. It's not through endless pussy and supercars and, and, and booze. And it's not those things. And you can find any man who goes down that hole and tell me, are they happy? The
Who's the man who's happiest? The man who's praying.
next i think if you put your happiness and everything that's here
Eventually you'll probably have it Then you realize That's not ultimate happiness You need to have faith In something beyond what's here Completely And that's why I say That's why I asked Why you convert Because I'm a Muslim Yeah Right Now I'm not going to say I'm the best practicing Muslim Yeah
But...
It was through my toughest times
where I chose to do good things. And I would say, like, subconscious, he said, what's the most honest thing to do? Like, it was through, like, just a ton of bad friends, just bad environments that happened, and I was going through a very dark time, right? Yeah. And I just told myself, just do the right thing. It's hard, you know, because if you do the wrong thing, you get instant satisfaction. Completely. Right? And it's like, well, if I just go and just...
act snaky like these people and just start manipulating i was like you know what it's okay lose these friends lose these people around you just trust the process and eventually i got so much good out of it and i was like and that's kind of like
What...
made me a lot more like faithful I was like okay if you
do good. It's hard sometimes but long term
It's delayed gratification. Exactly. You can eat the cake now and you're happy you had the cake, but if you want to be in fantastic shape, you have to go without the cake and look better later. You're right. God is very giving.
And I think that I don't know anybody who did the right things and was good to people and showed people respect, even if it was hard at the time, who didn't eventually get rewarded for it. If you're doing good things to get good things, then that's not because you're trying to be good. Correct.
So I don't want people watching this and saying, oh my God, Mona Andrew said if you do good things, good things will come. They probably won't.
and a lot of times it comes so delayed and you'd only ever really get the good result if you purely did it as you know what I'm just gonna take the good decision
If the good comes or doesn't, that's my decision. - I wanna argue the God point a bit more for all the atheists who are watching, and I would say that
if you remove God from society completely, if you click your fingers and he's gone, and in most of the world where there's religion,
And if you completely remove religion from Earth,
you'll see the devil appear pretty quickly.
you'll see mass breakdown of society, you'll see crime, you'll see rape, you'll see murder, you'll see theft.
And then you'll understand that God is a real force.
Even if you want to argue against God, even just the idea of God in and of himself. If enough people believe in the idea of a God and it makes them act righteously,
then the idea is a real thing. We don't even have to talk about it in the pure man in the sky. We don't have to talk about it in that way. I'm saying that the idea of God is a real idea that keeps society functioning, so God must exist to some degree, even as a...
concept. When you remove God from society, the devil appears.
And there's very few countries on earth now that you can say are non-religious
which aren't just completely and utterly degenerating. People in America say, "Oh yeah, I'm not religious." You're religious to the woke agenda.
You're religious to liberalism.
Like these people, everyone needs something to believe in. The people who are the most intolerant
The most hateful. Thanks, bro.
The most intolerant, the most hateful, the ones who tried to cancel me for having a different opinion, the most nasty negative people on earth
are the atheists who believe in a new agenda. They believe in woke agenda. They have a new religion. Everybody believes in something. And if you believe in God, you have a firm framework which has been tested throughout time. Another thing about the whole modern world, whether this is about the way men and women interact, whether it's the way about men going to bathrooms, whatever it is.
The religious doctrines
What's great about them is they've existed long enough for us to test them. We see what happens to society when they're adhered to. All this new think, this brand new think is untested. When they sit and say, you shouldn't discipline children, that's bad. We did a psychological study and if you discipline children, it's bad for them. I argue, well, we built the pyramids and went to the moon and built the modern world with disciplined kids.
Now you're sitting and saying that that's somehow wrong. Well, how do you know what's going to happen when you let kids do whatever the fuck they want? Because I don't know if it's going to be a good thing. This is all new think garbage. We know where religion takes us, right? This new think and we're just going to go and agree with all this other new crap. I don't think it's going to end well. Because already I don't know you well. But you can see how you act and how you portray and carry yourself as well. You're well raised. Right.
But everything that we're saying, rules and what we say, everything has come stemmed from Judeo-Christian values.
then from
You don't know what, like people say, what's been good? Where do we know giving cherry, giving a smile, crossing over the road with a lady?
This all stems from religion. Otherwise, if you go back to the caveman, whatever you want to say days, it'll be literally...
pillage that whole village
Take off mind, the strong man survives.
We'll just kill each other, okay? You got a million dollars, you got a million dollars, I'm gonna try and kill you, he's gonna kill me.
take your sister, take your sister.
Unfortunately that was life
That would have been, bury girls alive, why? Because they're not strong.
the baby's feet as I, he weighed five pounds, boom.
like Spartans or whatever three other movie
this
the rules set came from
Judaism, Christianity, Islam, all these values
On the way, like you said, they were tamper with, they kind of sold out to the system where
They were afraid. They couldn't...
they had to adapt instead of saying, no, this is our rules. We believe this is not allowed. This is not allowed.
And they feel lucky, so that's why he chose Islam, but without religion or
God, and obviously I believe for a fact God exists, and the Creator bringing these messages to prophets and messengers, we won't even know what good and bad is. You would not know. - Do you know what's crazy as well? If we look at, say, like you say there correctly, about, we look at history, I think a lot of the woke movement at the moment,
are so ignorant to history that they think nowadays is really bad. They think misgendering someone or getting the pronoun wrong is bad. You're like, rewind 100 years, and we were doing some really fucked up shit to each other. And like you say, we can pick holes in religion,
Anywhere we go, we can find 2% of people where we can get there, even in fitness, right? Bring it out of context. I give 1,000 people a plan. I'll get two of them who are going to look fucking good at the end of it. And I can make it seem like that's the whole plan. That's not the reality. Same in religion. You get a billion people to convert to a religion. You're going to find a small percentage of them and go, oh, my God. But what about these guys and paint it badly? If you go back up far enough in history, and again, we need to remember that human beings are savages.
We are primitive beings with primitive urges, with primitive minds. We have through society, religion,
creating these beautiful rule sets, even, you know, monogamy is a rule set to make us better. And if we go back, we can pick holes in religion and all of this. If you go back far enough and see how far we've come,
we should be so appreciative of it and I was similar to you where I was atheist for a long time and
I lived with a Muslim for a few years and I realized that any of my thoughts towards
his habits, whatever it was, was just purely through ignorance. And when I said to him, you know, about Ramadan, I was like, "So why are you doing this?" And I did it with him for
for the month and at the end of it I was so appreciative of food. We'd go, we'd sit there, in Australia it's easier because they got the short days for Ramadan. We'd go there 6pm, easy, and we'd be eating and we made such a big deal out of all of it and it was only through my 20s that I came to realise like, you can be there and not believe in anything.
But even if there wasn't a God, and you've got all these people adhering to this rule set and living that way of life, we should be, you know,
I certainly am I'm in awe of it and I think it's brilliant but it's crazy that so many people are unappreciative of what that can do to society I think it's an education and I think it's a
Like Andrew says, a lot of these things stem to what he said.
matrix call you want
There's an agenda to keep religion out of
society, there is.
Christianity, they want that out. Why? Because they want to control you with other
channels, other
Call it religion. I don't even call it religions other systems of belief where they have control of you like become sheep and
I like you saying it.
Religion gives you those values like
2 billion people, whoever, for example, you go to like a Mecca I went to, it's the holy place pilgrimage.
And I can't explain it, there was hundreds of thousands of people
And when the imam, like the priest, started the prayer, it was like this.
Yeah.
Go to a football match. Try and do an Ashram film, you know? You'll always get
Someone's died or queen you get someone someone shout something you know you can never get silence school someone laughs some fuss it was like that and
Rich men, poor men.
UFC fighters like
Khabib was there at the time like you name it
You couldn't tell the difference. Everyone had this white robe, everyone's same, bowing down to his... and I went, I've been Muslim my whole life, but when I left I was like...
Wow, there's a power you cannot...
Buy, teach, that's a true belief. SubhanAllah, we say that's amazing for me.
And
And I'm not someone to preach because I've been
more crime than all of you because I've been more than Muslim.
and I acted in
degenerate ways like I was, yeah?
Super.
There's a point in my life where I'm so content where
even if I was I'm ready to go
I feel, and not a lot of people can say that, I don't feel like I'm ready to go, I feel like
as a person I behave well
Whoever knows me alive knows I will never steal money from them. That's one thing they'll say he's rude, he's a prick, he's a bit arrogant.
But you never hear a story, he could steal money off me or he scammed me and things.
because of my belief. So that's why...
And I'm so truly believing in it that I think
I think to my extent I'm behaving well.
I do good messages, I try to raise my family good, I'm good to everyone. I don't do things for another thing in favor.
I think that's the beauty of having that belief where
If I didn't have God, like,
God knows like us there'll be no limit to me honestly for me. There'll be no limit to what I do I
Yeah, and that's why they want to destroy religion. They want to destroy, it's not just religion. They want to destroy absolutely all of our baseline morality in every way.
Before you put something on a hard disk, you wipe it clean. And they're trying to wipe us clean as humans. They want us to have no baseline moralities, no baseline understandings of what right and wrong is, no baseline understandings of how we should act, no baseline instincts,
The male instinct to become strong is a protective instinct. I want to be big and strong to protect the people I care about and love. They don't want us to have any of that. They're trying to destroy it or attack it or confuse us into believing that we're wrong for wanting it. We're wrong for wanting to be a big, strong man of resource. That makes you a bad person, Tam. How dare you want to be a big, strong man of resource? How dare you want to take care of the people you care about most? How dare you want to be able to stand up against three normal-sized men and say, you're not going to touch any of the women I care about?
That makes you bad. When I sit here and say these things about women, they call me misogynistic. Every single one of them is taken out of context. They don't understand. I'm talking about protecting and providing for women. When I say that I'm the one who would drive the car through the thunderstorm in the middle of the night on the rocky road, I'm not insulting women. I'm saying it's my responsibility to keep us safe.
That's why I will take the risk. They totally misunderstand it. They want to attack me and anybody else who has any kind of baseline morality because when they destroy that, your mind is empty for the slave programming. Then they can install the new program, whatever they decide it wants to be. If they want to wipe your mind and give you a new programming, do you think it's to make you happy, content, and individualistic or to make you a slave so they can be tyrannical? That's all they want to do. Religion and a few other things are in their way. Another thing that's truly in their way, we talked about this a lot. It's the only reason I'm going to come back to it.
in their way. The reason they're destroying this in real time is because if you have a man and he loves his wife and his wife is a good woman and they have a family home and he has children, he's ready to die on that porch. That's his house. That's his castle. That's his woman. This is why they try and fuck it up. This is why they want the woman to not listen to him, him to run around going, women don't listen. I might as well just run around with a bunch of hoes and destroy all of it because now he ain't going to die for nothing.
Can you imagine, in UK, it's illegal to have another wife
but it's okay to commit adultery.
explains this point well. They want you to have these affairs. I think a man has another wife you can go to jail.
But if she cheats and you've got five kids, you've provided for her life, nothing happens. So of course, she'll still keep her kids.
And a lot of men, I think that
Like he says, he empowers men.
we might not agree on the system or what he thinks, purely because of the way
everyone's got their own system or
ideas how they would do it but
what he's writing is he's giving them this strong, strong empowerment. Why? Because
These men work their ass off all day. No one sees their depression. Working job just to put that food on the table. And I'm not giving a stop. That's what their life is. When you have a wife and kids, their life's gone.
is to pay those bills, come home,
and I've seen it, I've seen the ones, yeah, you're alright, there's your food, maybe they don't cook for them,
Kids, they ignore them, get ruined. He's thinking, then he goes back to that. Weekend, takes him out, drives, repeat, dies, mortgages there.
Finally, by the time he dies, he might have paid a lot.
That's depression.
you know he has he's
put into that system
He's saying, if that woman leaves him, he's fucked.
So he's got these debts, he's got these kids, kids don't want to see him. What does he do? He doesn't know nothing else. He's been programmed to just do that to provide for his family and I can understand why men, when they have these divorces or their kids and their kids are taken away
It's a real situation, there's like a little
There's like a movie where men don't even get
a chance to see the kids if the woman says one thing. There's no investigation into it. Bro, I'll say this now. I'll say this now. And yeah, it was Haram. It was before my religious experience. I used to run the webcam business. And I will say this now. Webcam girls have stopped more men committing suicide than any therapist.
The number of men who was to go on these websites and pay these girls and say, my wife doesn't respect me. She left me. I don't get to see the kids. I'm in debt now. I have to pay her X amount of money. I'm 42. No woman wants me. I can't find anyone. You're the only person who remembers my birthday.
it's the reality you had a good website bro dave it's your birthday today let me have a reminder with my foot i have a reminder set up but but but it's the reality for so many men and it's a truly cynical reality and that's why when i give the answers i give about man being experienced i know it seems cynical and degenerate but that's the only answer i found it's like okay well then you need to have a little bit about you at least you know you're never going to be lonely forever man if you meet a woman at 17 you've been with her your whole life how you gonna get in the dating scene at 40
Bro, it's over. It's over. The game's over. It's over. And that's the point I'm making. And religion fixes all these problems. The world can be a beautiful place with God's guidance.
If you take gold's guidance away, humans are not that good. Humans are truly, we said earlier about pecking orders,
You're right.
And religion also prevents a lot of that. I'm telling you now, I'm telling you now what happens in unchecked societies, whether you believe me or not. You go to a godless country, let's say you go to Miami. I go to Miami.
Instagram gives me my account back.
We'll see. I get my blue checkmark out.
95% of girlfriends and wives will come and meet me.
95% of them.
And they'll sit there with me on a date, expect me to be a dumbass.
Oops, I'm a genius.
And I'm actually rich as I look like on Instagram. Oh, funnily enough, I'm not lying. That's it. It's game over. I can ruin men. I got to the point where I genuinely felt bad. I had to go and date a girl and she'd be 10 and she'd be beautiful. And then after like three or four dates, we'd already slept together or whatever. She'd go, yeah, it was my mix. And I'd see the text and I'd be like.
I feel bad for these. It's almost like shooting fish in a barrel, my friend. I felt bad for the men. That's a degree of morality most men never get to, where I was like, I'm driving men to suicide running through these chicks. And that's what happens in a godless society. That's all that happens. It's a hierarchy, and there are men out there at a certain level of status and capability and money who can just take your chick. They can do whatever they want. Maybe they can't take her right away.
Maybe she'll ignore the first message. Maybe she'll ignore the second message. But then you'll start arguing with her.
Then she'll like your pick back. I'm telling you the game. I'm telling you. I've done it. And I'm saying you need God to prevent these things.
If you take away God from society, a lot of atheists who I talk to, they go, I don't believe in God. I was like, you're lucky God's real, my friend.
Because if God wasn't real, little shits like you would be in a lot of trouble. Because you don't stand a chance in violence. You don't stand a chance in the sexual marketplace. You don't stand a chance in any realm. You need God more than me.
You're from a rugby background. Imagine those like Maui Samoans.
if there was no goals running through. You know, mate, the six foot six, like, remember John Elomu?
Yeah. Imagine him, he wants your girl. And you're just like a soft girl with no money. Imagine.
The guy was like what six foot six.
20 stone, 100 meters and 10 seconds, muscular, fit.
You know what I mean? He was like a specimen. That guy could have been a champion in any sport.
He could have. You spoke there about getting your account back on Instagram. So Elon Musk, he buys Twitter. Yep.
gives Donald Trump his page back, gives you his... You just wake up one day, you're like,
Cheers, Elon.
One...
Do you use it?
Would you use it? Twitter probably, yeah.
It's a play I shouldn't be... I've got into it recently. It's the cesspit.
- Oh, the cesspit society, yeah. - And sometimes I actually like getting rolled up and triggered and I love nibbling and biting, but then sometimes I'm not present with the people I really care about. I'm like, wait, one minute, babe. - You know what, did I? - Notification. - Yeah, one minute, babe. Yeah, it's a Nusrat state, keep it back up. I'm in a pretty good argument here.
But then...
I do see this turning because Elon's officially got it now he did that video of taking a sink let that sink in like I hope on the horizon there is an overcompensation of all this cancellation and all of this and I do think that you know
I do hope that people start getting their accounts back. I think that it would be good
And...
You know?
Maybe one more chance. It would be views need to be challenged, including my own.
Right. My only concern, my I only have two concerns about being canceled. One is about them trying to put me in jail for no reason, because that's stage two. That's the first concern. The second concern is that when you are canceled and you take all of your fans with you, which I've done, most people can't do that. There's also a big difference between viewers and fans. I've learned there's a whole lot of people who get a lot of viewers because they're they know how to play the algo and people recognize their face and they'll kind of watch them. But there's very few people on the planet who can get deleted from everything and say, you have to download a brand new app, make a brand new account. You can only find me here.
I'm currently on Rumble and people will actually bother to move. And I've done that en masse. I've sent stock prices.
30, 40% to the moon.
I have fans as opposed to viewers, which is a very important point. But I think that what's scary about that is when all your fans come with you, you do exist inside of an echo chamber to a degree.
I like disagreeing with people. I like testing my thinking. I like having people say, "No, Andrew, that's not true."
I absolutely love everyone who disagrees with me. I would never want to cancel any of them. I think that's the interesting...
part of being alive and I think that that's how you find the truth in the end. I would love for someone to sit down and prove me wrong. Of course, no one can.
but I would love someone to try. So that's the whole point of getting to it. So you're right, with this cancellation thing, it is kind of scary because you create echo chambers. And the social media platforms also are algorithmically driven to do that. They do that on purpose. They want that because they want
the arguments and they want the splits in the side. So we'll have to see how Elon changes algos and those kinds of things. I know I'll eventually get Instagram back.
If I come back to Twitter, that's great. YouTube I'll never return to, 'cause I'm Mr. Rumble now. - The thing about this which annoyed me was, when people were championing your cancellation, and again, today when I came in, my manager looks me in the eyes, he goes,
"You could lose 100,000 followers." I was like, "Let's fucking do it."
I said, if you fucking hate Andrew Tate that much,
Take the video, challenge him, educate me. - Let's like it. - 'Cause this is what I do, right? If I see someone chatting shit about nutrition, I'm like,
Yes, someone sends it to me and actually people give me content to critique. I then end up coming out on top by taking the nonsense and misinformation
Why not give people the opportunity that are apparently right and you're wrong?
And don't cancel Andrew Tate. Educate the people as to where he's wrong. Debate him.
Yeah, but they don't want to do that because the truth is about the whole cancel mob and the cancellation thing is that they're just hateful people.
And I really would stand by, and I don't want this to be arrogant.
I don't want to state this from a position of arrogance, but this is true. Like I said, me and my team are very professional.
I really believe I'm one of the best teams on earth. I became the most Googled man on the planet in six months.
We decided to do it and six months later, it was Google Man on the planet. So I work with some of the best people on the planet. We are extremely statistical. We analyze all the data, everything in real time. And we've put together a plan and a map of all the reasons why my cancellation came to fruition.
including the non-tangibles. I understand the intangibles. I understand I appear scary.
I talk.
very quickly. I'm an ex-fighter. I live in Romania. I have these big pit bulls and these machine guns. I look like a bad guy. I'd be stupid to sit and say I don't look like an evil villain. I get it. I live in a big black bat cave. I understand there's so many intangibles involved in all of it, right? So I understand...
intimately why I was canceled.
But one of the reasons why
and this is an intangible, but I truly believe it to be true,
everyone says hate doesn't come from above but when you're truly super successful you'll you'll see this as well and so all you guys when you're rich
and fairly good looking or big and strong, and you've got a good family, people love you around you, and you're charismatic and you're interesting, and you're winning at life. You have every God-given gift. You have everything.
There is a large contingent of Earth who's just going to dislike you.
There's a lot of people who looked at me and goes, "I can't call him stupid. I can't call him broke. I can't call him particularly ugly. I can't call him fat. What can I do?
He's bad. That's their only weapon. And they're hateful and they're jealous. Like if I was, if I was, if I was a little bit less cool, I wouldn't have got to that level of cancellation, but they're like, this dude's got every single thing ticked off. If we don't get him now for being a bad man, we're never gonna be able to get him. That's it. So there's, there's a whole bunch of intangibles involved, but these people are genuinely just hateful people. And this is another thing that I say all the time. And I don't think people understand because I get asked always why I'm still fighting against the matrix, even though I truly believe my life's going to be in danger. And the reason is because I believe that the battle has come to all of us and I don't believe
AND THE PEOPLE ARE NOT
I think you have two choices. You either understand the way the world's going, and you understand the lies you're trying to purport to your children, and you understand what Satan's trying to do.
and you fight against it,
because you want to be one with your spirit and one with your heart and one with your mind.
or you pretend the battle isn't happening, absorb all of their garbage they're teaching you, and then you're gonna end up fighting against yourself.
Because I don't think your soul and your spirit will allow you to sit there and digest these lives and be happy. There's a reason these people who disagree with me are all depressed on anxiety medicine. Like I look at all my haters. They all have mental conditions.
They're all fucking sitting there saying how sad they are. And I'm like, the reason is, is because if you're going to sit there and ignore your own eyes, pretend God isn't real, pretend all these narratives are trying to teach you are true, have no standards, be tolerant of everything, and have no serious relationships with anybody, you're going to be an unhappy person. So you either fight against the matrix and have your mind in order, or you've sacrificed your mind to the machine and you end up battling against yourself. There's no other way out. This battle's here for everybody.
And if you're truly a man of God and a man of principles and you stand by them and stick by them, you're going to end up an enemy of the machine. You're going to end up the resistance like we all are now by saying things they don't want us to say.
Otherwise, you have to sit here and go, everything they tell me is true. The machine tells the truth. But then you're going to suffer within yourself. There's no way out.
Do you feel you? Because you came out blazing
And being honest, you sometimes second think everything you write, you edit, you think,
I don't want to say something in case I do get cancelled one day, honestly. In some respects, yeah, because it's not just me, it's a responsibility to my family, my friends. And after a while, you actually become a bit of a spearhead where you are trying to be a selfish, successful person in life so you can bring other people with you. So there are other people's lives at stake, not just your own. I do in some respects, you know, but
again people said to me especially during your cancellation they were like
this is a perfect opportunity, become the anti-Tate. And I was like,
it's disingenuous. It's not real. And for me, values are such an important thing. And at the end of the day, you could take everything away from me. But if I've maintained my values of integrity, honesty, being straight up, because
I always say they tell about this story, right?
Me, myself, when I played rugby, never to a great level, I once got dropped and I said to my coach, "Hey, why am I not starting?" And he was like, "Mate, you played like shit. "You played really bad. "I can't believe you missed that many tackles "with your parents watching." So many people in the world, they go,
That is horrible.
But that pain that I felt meant that I turned up to training on the Tuesday, I didn't miss a tackle, I didn't fuck around, I did what I needed to do. The worst thing he could have done to me is to protect my feelings and say, oh, it's just a player rotation.
So why would I try and project any information that is just purely to
Not hurt people's feelings. There are so many people like me on the planet that need to be spoken to in a certain way and
And I need to continue being true to that.
The second I stop doing that or it becomes a popularity contest, which again, is not what I set out to do. And you get swerved on the way there are temptations or this, there are that. But for me, there was always the fear of cancellation. But then.
At the same point, if...
We joke about it all the time.
We're really bad at celebrating wins on the way. That's probably my biggest weakness. We sold out the Hammersmith Apollo, three and a half thousand people, and we didn't even fucking celebrate. And we're like,
Bro, celebrate, but then we sit back and we go, well, if it all ended tomorrow, what a fucking ride. I can go back to PTN on the gym floor,
even if--
100, let's say a million of my followers fucking hate me, and 100,000 stay. That's enough to build a PT business, I'm cool. So the fear's there, but at the same time,
If I can be true myself, then I don't really care and I bet there was a lot in your life as well when they took the account you're like oh
I didn't fold. Yeah. And there is a degree of managing it. Like I actually think it's very responsible for a lot of people to manage and say, is me saying this worth it to the mission? Because also you can do, you can be more effective by slightly inclining some things and keeping your platform over a longer period of time than doing one big blowout video and getting canceled and disappearing. Right. So I'm not saying everybody should go my route.
I was in a unique position and I was saying for a very long time before I got canceled, I'm going to get canceled.
They're going to delete me. I know it's coming for it. And I was in a very unique position. I think
that a lot of people understand that there are tyrannical forces in the world and that censorship is a big issue. I think a lot of people are pissed off and unhappy with the social media platforms as a whole. If you ask the average person who does YouTube videos, he'd be like, yes, they censor too hard. Everyone understands that.
There's a lot of pressure behind the dam.
And I think if you can put a crack in the dam, it will break.
The crack that was missing is if you get canceled, your career's over.
And once I prove that's no longer the case,
then the crack will appear and people will say, I've already seen it happen. Before my cancellation, I never heard anybody say, if they cancel me, I'll just move to Rumble.
Never heard that once. And now I hear every five minutes. So people are already starting to understand. Oh, you know what? There's certain issues I will speak about. Certain things are important enough for me to risk my account. And that and if they cancel me, I can still survive. And I think once you do that, you allow.
people to resist the, maybe not all tyranny, maybe not change society, but the most
obvious and crazy forms of tyranny, like locking us all in our houses for years, for example.
I really think that you can shift the way society functions. And I think that's really important because
I don't think many people have studied history long enough to understand what happens when you delete one side of the story.
The reason such heinous things have happened throughout all of human history is because they delete one side of the story and they tell you one false version of reality. And that's how people end up dead in ditches.
That's how people end up starving to death. That's how every single bad thing has ever happened. It's come from censorship. It's the beginning. The good guys never censor. It's the bad guys who censor. Always from the beginning. So if you have a duty to yourself and to God, you have to stand up and say something. This is reality.
Before we wrap up one more thing
One more thing I want to bring up.
YouTube boxing and you're not a YouTube because I know what annoys me yesterday people going I
He's good isn't he? He's good. Look at his, look at how he moves. I said bro he's a fighter. That's what he, I know him as a fighter. We used to fight in school.
sports halls.
people were like, go on, man, knock him out. Like, you're on the ground, you're in your guard.
Knock him out I'm like bruv It's an armbar What are you fucking saying Like
Circus Tavern Strip Clubs we used to fight
And I know, since you've been here, I've been in calls for certain promoters and trying to reach out to me to get to you.
Will you ever fight?
If you do...
who would you want to fight? Because now...
You can't go to a normal organization, there's no point, you're too big for that.
- Yeah, that's a really good question.
for me to fight.
It would have to be personal beef.
And the reason is because I can't be motivated by money because I have more than anybody would possibly believe.
And I can't be motivated by clout because I'm always the most famous man on the planet. Mashallah. Yeah, so for me to take six months out of my life to beat the shit out of somebody.
would have to be I don't like that person. There are a few people on the internet who I dislike enough to do that.
They're obviously cowards. Is the beef with Logan Paul real? Yeah, so True Geordie's some person how I'll smash up any day of the week for free. That's a fat fuck.
He's into some haram shit, look it up. Look up his screenshots. Haram shit. Hashtag haram shit.
But he's a coward. Hassan Abbe is another guy. Some liberal guy is a coward. These people are cowards. So there's no point in me mentioning cowards' names. Because cowards will just make every excuse under the sun. They're never going to do it.
Logan...
would have to piss in a cop and pass a drugs test which he never would because he's a steroid head
Listen, I'm genetically gifted. If I took steroids, I'd be a monster.
So I'm walking around without a single drop of anything in me, smoking cigars and chilling. So if I were to actually train seriously and take steroids, I'd be super heavyweight. So either I get on the juice or he has to come off the juice, one of the two before him. But even then, even then, I'm the A-side, not him.
Only everyone cares about me, not him. It would have to be my promotion, my conditions, working with you, fighting here.
In Dubai, somewhere neutral. I'm not going to America, home the devil, not going there. So there's had to be a whole bunch of conditions and it's not that simple. People say, oh, why don't you just fight this guy? If I were to fight some guy, it'd be a hundred to $200 million deal. You think I'm doing that unless I'm getting most of the money? You think I'm gonna make some of the dude rich? Oh yeah, I smashed his face in, but he gets 75M and I get 50? No, there's principle involved.
And nobody's going to have a fair fight with me because I'm going to get wrecked.
So it's complicated, like it's difficult. I know everyone's asking me and I'm saying it is like that but...
I know Jake Paul.
you don't mind Jake Paul because he kind of came his brother came against you but he actually supported you he said look whether I like the guy or not
I respect freedom of speech or something like that. I have no problem with Jake. Jake is a Jake seems a lot smarter than Logan. Logan's absolutely not lead agent of the matrix.
Logan is bought and sold and paid for. And Logan is so afraid of being canceled again, because he was canceled once and he cried on TV. He's so scared of being canceled again, that he'll say anything he's told to say. So Logan is a bought and sold agent. His brother has a little bit more free speech. His brother's more a boxer than a YouTuber now. And I think Jake Paul is probably the only person in the YouTube boxing space
who's actually any good. I don't think Jake's bad. I think Jake, to think of Jake as a YouTuber is stupid now. Jake is a boxer. He's a young man who's training boxing every day. And he's good. And he's good. The guy can box. Jake, you'd have to train for to beat, right? The rest of them, clowns. The rest of them are clowns. And also, and I don't want to be arrogant. I do kind of feel like I'm above it in some ways. Like I have an important message. I can sit and do a podcast with you guys like this and get millions and millions of views. I don't need to go beat people up in the ring or perform like a clown for these fools. Oh, I agree.
someone I actually genuinely dislike. So Hassan Abbey, who's a little coward,
He's some guy in America. He's really strange. He's obsessed with girls driving better than him. He has long hair, wears dresses. Total weirdo. I smash him to bits. True Jordy, who me and him had beef for a long time. Long story. He came at me and insulted me a bunch. Then these screenshots came out about him, and I showed his screenshots. He got upset about it. Last time he was asked about me, he said if he saw me, he punched me in the face. I fucking dare him. I dare him to even try. We know that's well for you. Yeah, of course. Of course you would, you fat fuck. So I'll deal with him. But besides those two, there's very few people I'd be motivated to bother to smash up.
because you know I promote social knockout, I do YouTube fights.
And I said to him, I said,
Number one, he doesn't need to do it. Number two, if he does it, why would he be on
a Misfits card or a Showtime. He could do his own promotion company. I'm here, we do shows.
and he's outside where he's under his TV contract because
They need him.
The YouTube game is different, like you'll find that
all these followers don't,
convert to seats in
It's weird I spent a lot on a few shows And I didn't make the returns Because I was like Oh they've got 10 million followers This this It's gonna be packed I'll tell you something now I'll tell you the most thing I've learned about cancellation And this is for all the people Who think they're popular On the internet
Followers and fans are different.
When you have followers, when you know how to play the algo, and the algo likes you, and you make semi-friendly content,
There's a whole bunch of people who will watch you just because you're there. Oh, new video. Yeah, I'll watch it. But...
Unless you're truly, truly unique or you truly make people have an emotional response, they can replace you with whoever else. Oh, he's not there today, but this guy's there. This is the problem. If you're a big prankster, let's say online. I'm a big prankster.
If they delete you, there's another prankster.
Let's put another prankster on the algo. You have to make people have an emotional response. And I say the best way to tell if someone has fans or followers is one, if they can sell something outside of YouTube.
because that makes somebody actually get up and make an action and do something. I know people with 10 million followers who can't sell a thing. And I know people with 100,000 followers who sell 100,000 products. So can you make people buy something or take an action? Have they signed up to your email list? Are they signed up somewhere else? That's the first thing. And secondly, do you make people have an emotional response? And that's the thing about being polarizing, which has an advantage to it. But you're right, man.
Viewers and fans are different things, bro. Because I was impressed. And like a lot of people, you have a big following. Not following, but fans as well.
you want sell out it can't be from Instagram.
And I'm telling you, from experience, I've done promotions, and probably for one of the biggest promotions out there in the YouTube world it was, and...
I don't want to mention names,
and I'd signed them.
Promote this that and I had a system of checking with codes
They could not sell anything.
And literally,
It surprised me, then I saw this Social Gloves, another event.
which went bust.
when they put a big investment into that, you know, they didn't get the buys. They thought 10,000 buys the last show.
with accumulation of 300 followers. So it's a different thing, but
Like for example, I'm not sure how many followers you have on things, but to sell out arenas, that's a fan following. That's legit.
like book sellouts, like you said,
that shows you've got, there's something more than you going in, in your life, I've seen you in Speedos and laying there like, you know, there's something more to it. So that's,
That's an art itself. Like I said to him, he's not on bloody social media. All right, forget Rumble. I'm not even subscribed to Rumble. I think he just started the other day.
People are screaming.
I said, it's not because you're countering it. It's something else. It's scary. It's like I've never seen it. I've had influencers, YouTubers come...
That reaction is insane, I said.
I've never seen it since Kim Kardashian.
when she came to buy Orin El, it's like that style.
So,
That's an art itself. Isn't it interesting though, you said 200 million for a fight, not really interested, but you were trying to do an event for your tenants of Tate where you probably would have got, let's say, a thousand people in a room.
Not sure what the ticket price would be but you're looking at a very small percentage of what you'd get for the fight So you're saying I'd rather educate a thousand people with what I believe than I would to entertain a million people and yeah I'm nobody's clown and a lot of these youtubers are clowns. I'm nobody's clown. I don't have to perform for anybody I'm not fucking Jake and Logan running around being I've no problem Jake, but I'm not Logan running around and
pretending to be a whole look what I oops I spilled my drink. I'm not a clown for nobody, right?
I don't have to be a clown anymore.
I've done a long, I've had a long fight history. If I have personal beef with somebody, if I feel like smashing somebody up, I'm happy to do it.
Nobody can say I'm afraid to fight. I've done it eight, seven times. So, I mean, so, but I'm nobody's clown and yes, I want to try and educate people. I'll educate people for free.
That's all I do.
All I do is sit here and do podcasts. No one's paying me to be here. I've got all the time. I've got money and cars, and I've got to do anything I want. I'm here. I love to educate people. I love to tell people about my worldview, and I genuinely believe...
that anybody who's a fan of mine and listens to the thing I said,
Things I say has a better life.
And I know that from personal experience. Anybody who listens to me ends up happier, more motivated at least, you know, ends up having a better life. And that means more to me than being someone's clown. If I go smash somebody up, yeah, people will be entertained, but their lives are not going to be any better.
And it's different. So it's not, I don't have the same motivation behind it.
Now I realize you're influential with one thing.
like Andrew Tate genuinely made me do 500 pushups one day. There was one video and like at the time he was annoying me. I was just seeing his face everywhere and he was like,
Well, if you actually want to do something, get up and do 500 pushups.
I was at my house, I was like, "Alright, I got this." - I wanna see the video footage of that. - "I got this." I used to be in shape, I can't do that right now. - No, but in part, to be honest,
I realized because he was like most of you are going to give up and I was like I'm not who are you to tell me I'm going to give up you know so that's the difference between like like you said having like a proper fan following like someone that you can trigger them to actually emotionally react.
You have to piss people off for them to do anything. I said the most influential people in the world are not the ones that are liked.
it's the ones that have
a lot of like love love and hate hate i have to be careful saying names now because everybody knows me i don't want to say names but there's certain people who are influential and well-known online and they're like
these positive gurus and positive spirituality, whatever, whatever.
And I look at their stuff and it's just bollocks.
It's just it's just I'm just looking at it going this is bullshit. I and like you said with your rugby coach. I
100% me. The number of emails I get who said, "You called me a loser."
and I agreed with you
and now my life's fantastic.
I think there's something innate inside of men. Sometimes you need to be taught the way. That's how I grew up. That's how I was taught. We're from the fight world, bro. That's how we learn. That's how we learn. Your whole gym would laugh at you. You got beat up, you got caught, they'd abuse you.
you literally get rugby's the same the rugby change I know how fucked up they were but
That's why I like your content, because it's funny.
It's the way you analyze these gurus.
and you kind of customize it.
And you're like, "No, well, technically not." That shit, what I like is real, and that's why I think people resonate with you.
When you're these gurus like,
There's some Indian guy there, I don't know what his name is, and he says, Thou shall love, and he's his post, and they said he's actually...
doing plagiarism with other people. It's all this and there's simps.
Because they're doing it because they think the girls like me and...
But the ones who are hardcore and stick with their own real content, they'll never be forgotten. You can get the money now, but the longevity, it will always go. Let's think about muscle growth quickly. You need to take a muscle to the point that it fucking fails. Then what do you do? You ease off.
Then you come back and you do it again even more.
And over time you react, you respond, and over what, you become stronger. We need to do the same. And again, what you said there, I genuinely believe there are people that hate you, that you've benefited their lives, because you have called them a loser. Interestingly enough, your voiceovers are used on a lot of TikToks online.
Successful people have the voice in their head that say "get up you fucking piece of shit"
and go do what you said you were gonna do. But for a lot of people out there that don't have that voice, yours is in there. - Nice. - And they don't-- - Why do they hate me? - They don't have to like you, but that doesn't--
defeat your purpose, which is kind of an interesting, and even myself, there have been
times that I've seen your content and I've gone, I don't agree with that. And times I've seen it and I've gone, "Fucking hell, you're so right."
when you are successful in life, you're not challenged enough.
And I think that
even if people are watching this, just waiting for you to trip up and say something wrong,
fuck me I mean we need that voice in our heads that challenges us and makes us do better and you need to make people think I have no problem with everybody who watches this disagreeing with me
If everybody who watches this disagrees with me completely and they can articulate why and tell me why they disagree with me and they can think of an argument counter, then I've already succeeded.
Making people think whether it's for you or against you is the number one weapon against the slave mind programming. So I have no problem. If I make people think, I don't care if they disagree with me.
Because I'll tell you the biggest slave minds in the world today are people, and they're out there, who have strong emotional reactions to subjects they don't even completely understand. You can go out there and say the name Andrew Tate to somebody and they'll go, I hate him.
Why?
I don't know. If you don't know why you feel angry, you have been programmed. How can you have an emotional response to something you do not understand?
These are slave minded individuals. So if you're a slave mind and you're watching this and you hate me, it's fine. Write an email. Write it to me. Write it down. Explain articulately why I am wrong. Turn your brain on. And I guarantee halfway through the email, you realize you're probably fucking wrong in the first place.
Most people do not think.
So I have no problem being martyred. If I have to be hated for people to think, then I think that's a good thing for society as a whole. It was unfortunate the show, which was going to come back soon anyway,
He was given opportunity 30 minutes questions answered the public. There's a channel for you there.
to say whatever you want.
Not a lot of people do that. A lot of people have like a script, say this, that.
he comes up I've been to a few with him like in the background he just goes
He never says someone, "Don't ask me this, don't ask me that, he's just gonna go ahead."
That's confidence. That's confidence in what you're doing. So that's what I respect. He's like, he never, ever...
I've had YouTubers who are nothing, go, you can't say this, I can't wear this. I'm like, no one knows you. Even my staff don't know who you are.
He literally turns out to the podcast,
and how controversial, there's many things you could say.
Trigger him. He just says go, let's go, Flo.
So you've got to respect that and the people see it as confidence.
Yeah, you know?
I believe in my ideas and I'll defend them. And I'll also sit here and be proof wrong.
Fine. That's just the whole point of it. Do you think there's things that you've said wrong in the past? Because obviously like you said you're always shifting. Like you were atheist, now you're obviously Muslim.
But do you think also except the religion part, do you think there was any things that you have? No, what I what I what I do, like I said, I'm very professional, not emotional about these things. I don't think I've said anything besides the religion thing that I
thought was wrong. I do think that the way I said things back then was fine because I had a very small following. But when you become the most famous man on the planet, you are ignorant to sit and say that.
I can say things the same way.
To have 1% of people misunderstand a video that gets 500 views is fine. To have 1% of people misunderstand you and you get 5, 10 million views every video you make becomes a problem.
I do understand that.
I understand that. And I can sit here and complain and say, "Well, the video was made long ago and now I'm famous and I couldn't see the future," etc.
But with great power comes great responsibility. So you have to accept that. And you also have to accept there's always gonna be a proportion of people who misunderstand you.
I also have to understand and accept that a lot of the things I talk about are complicated issues. And there's a lot of nuance. And if a 14 or 15-year-old boy watches it and doesn't understand the nuance behind it, he's going to say, take a seat with loads of girls. And they're not going to get it. But I would argue that that's not...
an Android tape problem that's an internet problem
If you give a 15 year old mind unfiltered access to the Internet, they're not going to understand a bunch of stuff. They're going to get a bunch of stuff out of context. So, yeah, I don't think I said anything. I don't think I said anything wrong. I've said things in ways I wouldn't say them now. But I also didn't know. I didn't know. Oh, once I planned to go loud, loud and get as big as I did, I didn't think that videos from five and a half years ago on deleted channels would somehow appear. The Internet's weird.
People find stuff, bro, it's crazy. So it's, what can you do, right? - Some of the stuff that comes up, I have to laugh. They bring anything out. - Bro, they find stuff, so.
Even I don't know where this stuff is. I literally don't remember this interview. I don't remember this podcast. I've been around for a while on the internet.
- With great power comes great responsibility. You have to acknowledge that and accept that. So you have to be more careful how you say things. And that's not about avoiding the cancel culture. That's more about making sure that
impressionable people don't misunderstand you. That's the big thing.
I think guys, we've had a good little discussion. It's been random.
Four different completely opposite people. Next time you have to wear the hat and do the editing process. I would swap the watch to the right side. All right. Okay. Nice. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Got to do that. Yeah. That's right. It's his own little Freemason thing that people say, oh, it's her army. It's going around the TikTok now that I worship devil or something. Bro, yeah. Something's going around. Like you have this.
Satanic friend. I've seen some stories come up and I laugh. I like watching
Everything.
and this guy with long hair, and he's become Muslim, he's gonna start this thing from inside Islam, a holy-- - Well, let's-- - You've got a long hair. - Let's clear this up now. - Let's clear this up. - There's some guys making a video-- - Let's clear this up. - You've got a friend who's--
top something? Yeah, so inside of my organization, which is called the War Room, we haven't talked about it at length, but I have a private members
organization.
And the guy, one of the guys who works for us is a hypnotist. So he kind of looks like a bit of a magician and he's a hypnotist and he's a hypnotist and he's a hypnotist because he's one, he's very, very good at it. And two, we do a lot of self-hypnosis. We talk about how everything that comes out of your mouth is self-hypnosis. If you say that you are strong before you go to lift weights, you will do better than if you say you are weak. It's self-hypnosis. He's a hypnotist. He has nothing to do with my personal religious beliefs. He's just a hypnotist who's part of the organization.
There's pictures of me sitting next to him.
This hand symbol
is very innocently my father's hand symbol. When my father played chess, he used to play chess like this.
needs to look at the board like this.
So I adopted it almost to show respect to my father. That's why I adopted it. And then I got comfortable doing it. It's not, it doesn't mean anything. I don't know where it's from. People are trying to find these old pictures of things and put it all together, but that's the internet, right? But, um,
Yeah, there's a hypnotist who's part of my organization along with thousands of other people, and I keep my hands in this position. In fact, I put up posts on social media showing my dad doing the position a bunch of times, and I do the position a bunch of times. So it's just a chess thing. You'll see it. They're doing the rounds. This is guys, some...
witchcraft lead and there's a picture of them with fire. It's hilarious the pictures they put you in like
they're in some kind of Alabama warehouse and
takes behind and this guy's there with a cape. It's literally crazy. And there's guys on TikTok, you can talk with a meme, which behind it saying,
he's doing this and some of the
BS out there. Like, you know, it's just funny. Yeah, I mean, that's the internet, right? I've heard loads of theories about myself. I've heard crazy theories about myself. It's just you have to sit there and just go, okay, well...
It's part of the mystique, I guess. I guess it's part of the game, isn't it? What can you do? - No, but honestly,
Pleasure having you all.
Mo, I know you a long time. James, to meet you and I've heard a lot and
good things, if my wife compliments and says someone's good,
Like I take it and she's like a big fan and I like your work. You think you upset me dissing Dr. Berg a little bit because I thought he was legit.
Like,
some of the things he was saying, I was like, yeah. I said to someone, see, Dr. Berg said this about something, the Diet Coke one, you help me a lot.
because I've got an addiction to Diet Coke. He hates Coke.
I know he's like I'm giving away how many of your videos I've seen today and do you know what you challenged me on that I'm very healthy
I was thinking then, he's like, "Just have an orange juice. At least it's got something in it." I felt attacked and I was...
It's challenged my beliefs. Why do you drink sparkling water? I hate it.
How can you hate sparkling water? It's just... I don't know. They're gonna come for you in the... I like water. In the comment section they're gonna come for you. I like water. No, no, but my brother said to me, I said to my brother, he goes,
It's like basically put some lemon in it. It's the same as having a soda, but it's healthy and it's good
Water tastes better.
And the thing with him is he literally is healthy. Every time we go, he eats his meat. We went to some dinner with a royal.
And literally they were bringing him.
and bring in. I was watching him saying, fuck this, this cake's good. And he watches everything. He's disciplined. And that's a good sign. I eat once a day.
- So once a day. - Yeah. So sparkling water and coffee helps me suppress my appetite. I eat once a day.
That's it.
So that's why I drink so much sparkling water, and I drink so much coffee. I do my 45 minutes in, I walk empty stomachs, and be like, shut up. Everything I used to do, he's like, bro, that's bollocks, that's bollocks, he's right.
- I'm selling the system tomorrow.
I've been in Hustlers University I know the quadrant Eat once a day So I'm like The Tate system But that's my personal thing I eat once a day Because I perform best When I'm hungry What'd you eat?
I eat dinner. That's it.
no breakfast isn't dinner at worst i thought it's just have breakfast i don't know but that's the one i eat it doesn't matter and i i know i understand
There's a lot and
I know we're supposed to be ending now, but there's a whole bunch about health and lifting weights and stuff that I don't understand. I'm a fighter, right? I don't know about bodybuilding. I don't know about any of this shit. I don't pretend I know. All I know is what works for me. I know that I could probably be stronger if I ate more, I've been told.
Yeah.
But I don't want to lift heavyweights. I tried to lift heavyweights for the first time two days ago.
I was at my friend's house and I was like, how much can I bench? I don't even know. I put a video up. I did 140 for two.
and I wanted to do more.
But 140 kilo for two, easy, easy. I could have done more. But the reason I stopped is my shoulder.
fucked up and now it's not bad, but it's even my shoulder now is aching. I'm like, why do people lift heavy weights, bro? You just hurt yourself. But I maybe should have warmed up. I just sat down with 140 like a dickhead, but I only lift, I only lift 40, 50 kilos at a time. I like to stay fast. Maybe my boxing style is all speed.
So I don't eat more to get bigger.
One meal a day is good. I like being hungry most of the day. It keeps my brain firing. When you're hungry, you're on. When you're full, you're not. I feel better when I'm hungry. It's a comfort thing. The two sympathetic nervous system and the parasympathetic is rest and digest. That's what it's called. It's a big system in the body. You think from an evolutionary standpoint, you get up, you go about stuff, you do shit. Then when you finish, you come, you sit, you relax. So if you want to be a high-functioning individual but you eat, you're kind of eating, you're sending mixed signals, trying to smash your emails after eating. Yeah.
a lot of high achievers, Lex Friedman, Huberman, all these people, they would rather be hungry, alert and attentive
then they would be fed, satiated,
and potentially sluggish. Yeah, you can't be lazy when you're hungry, bro.
You're hungry now.
You're hungry. Just don't eat. If you're hungry, you can't be lazy. Now you go and you go do shit. He puts it into all of the myths of like these meals that everything is on his... We'll do a podcast. Yeah. He'll tell you all about the fitness thing he knows. He'll tell you and I'd actually like to watch that as well because I don't understand why I do a lot. I don't understand why I do what I do. I just know what makes me feel best.
That's the only reason I do it. I can't argue with that. What's the basics you say? It's about...
burn more than you put in your mouth basically. If you put more money in your bank than you took out, you'd accrue interest. You'd
getting credit and that's what body fat is people they want to argue so much and i'm like reduce your calories by 10 then what
well it either works or it doesn't oh it doesn't work well do another fucking 10% yeah yeah
- Until what? - Simple logic in maths, yeah. - Until it works.
then then yeah and people don't want to hear that but because they want to word it in different ways and sell their packages well is it not because I'm you know fasting keto low carb all this like relax mate just yeah yeah
colors and colors out. But I'm not necessarily even trying to stay skin. I just prefer...
If I eat, I want to sleep.
I mean you're quite big hot dog, you have to have a big dinner though.
- I eat till I'm full. I eat a lot of meat. I'd like to think that 80% of my calories come from meat. I'd like to think that.
So I try and avoid like I have a little bit. If there's a meal, I'll have a few fries and as much meat as I can. Yeah. But in general, that's it. I don't drink sugary drinks. I try not to drink my calories. I only drink water.
And that's it. And then by the time I have a bunch of coffees, a bunch of sparkling water, and maybe a cigar, I'm not hungry anyway.
Science here. That'll be a whole nother video. The meal plan of top G. Top G diet. Yeah, that's your name
healthy food bar
Protein shake.
And there's a few names and I've called them the top G. Bro I have to have one now. It's the top G. Let me have a top G. We've got to get a top G. But honestly guys a pleasure honestly for having you here. I wish we could do more and I'm sure this will start a relationship with doing many more things. Yeah.
And especially here, thank you to James Moe.
And, uh...
Top G Andrew, it's funny for me to say Top G, I can't take it. When I say that, I say it.
It's been a pleasure. I'm blessed. Welcome to Islam as a brother. Thank you, bro. I'm just this...
For me that was the best
That made me more happy than anything, and a lot of Muslims don't understand what I mean.
Mo, good luck with your next YouTube fight. We're going to announce that soon. Some big news from you.
James good luck with the show this weekend we'll try and pass by actually imagine imagine you come on stage with him I'm joking I'm joking I'm joking shake the internet but you never know one day so anyway pleasure guys until next time thank you
Peace.