Transcript
Hello.
Rumor has it,
But Meghan Markle,
And Harry...
I've been sitting around doing interviews with Oprah.
Now, I'm not a big follower of such things. I try and avoid pop culture.
In fact,
Since I became
Rich as fuck.
I try very hard to ignore all the shit that people seem to enjoy and care about.
But I've been getting lots of emails from people. Tate!
You're the only man qualified.
You're the only one who can do it. You need to watch this interview and tell us the truth. See between the lines.
And I am good at that kind of thing.
to the next day.
So I've decided.
I'm going to watch
The latest interview...
with Meghan the whole Markle and Harry the cut prince and Oprah, I'm going to tell you what's really going on.
Now...
In the interest of fairness, because I'm a fair man,
I haven't seen this interview yet.
I know all of you are watching this going, Kate's going to rip Megan apart.
I may have said a few bad things about Meghan in the past.
What do you want me to say about this ? Every day there's new news.
Am I allowed to say bacon's a .
Fuck it. Release it. Megan! You are a promiscuous female. She managed to make him quit being a prince. So? Most women get their men in some sexless marriage while he's working his ass off, paying the bills, while she's fucking the gardener, and he pretends he doesn't notice for years.
Who do you think she married him because she likes ginger penis?
You think she's always, she's been spending her whole life dreaming of a dick with ginger hair all around it. Oh, that's why I want to marry him. I love ginger dick. No, she wants fucking status.
Of course you did.
She's been getting gang banged by NBA stars. You think Prince fucking Harry is going to be able to satisfy that gaping hole?
It's like waving an umbrella in a motherfucking tunnel.
So a lot of you think I'm going to give a bias review.
But no!
I'm a fair man.
In fact,
If you look up fair in the dictionary,
There's a picture of my beautiful face.
right next to the word. So I've yet to have seen this interview.
And I will be honest, perhaps Meghan surprises us all.
Perhaps she does.
Extremely well. And perhaps she convinces me that she's not a bad person.
Because my current analysis of the situation is that she's taking advantage of a very limp-wristed, small-dicked.
Little pussy ass prince.
Because she's a manipulative...
evil female and she's found herself prey like a black widow.
And I don't actually blame her for exploiting it. Because if you're a bitch, you get exploited. Welcome to the world.
But that's exactly what she's doing. So we're gonna watch this interview.
I'm going to tell you what's really going on.
The reason I was getting this email, a lot of people were comparing this upcoming project to the Will Smith, Jada Smith breakdown I made.
"You found things I never considered." Of course.
I'm Andrew motherfucking Tate.
So buckle off!
All the coffee cups in my house are Tate cups.
Because coffee, a lot like me, is hot, brown, and strong.
So I drink a lot of it.
And I like to drink it from a Tate cup.
Thank you.
All the beautiful females in my house also drink from take cups.
Thank you.
Right.
Let's go. So, Oprah.
Let's get started on Oprah. Wait, before we start, let's give some context.
Do I have anything against Oprah? I don't think so. She's a billionaire.
Black woman, she's done very well, she's a billionaire.
Has Oprah ever annoyed me? I don't think I've ever complained about Oprah. I don't think Oprah really annoys me. So I have nothing against Oprah as it currently stands. And I've already told you what I think of Meghan and Harry. Nearly two billion people around the globe
Watch their wedding.
I'm mad already. How long has it been? Four seconds.
Two billion? What the fuck? Two billion people!
You're wondering why everyone's walking around wearing the Corona masks like slaves.
You wonder why everyone's so fucking stupid.
We're four seconds into this one hour interview and I'm furious.
two
Billion with a B?
Do you have any idea how much money you would have to pay me for me to watch that shit?
Let alone watch it for free. I'm talking about Tate. Here's 25 grand cash to endure the full free hours of a cuck marrying some entitled ass divorcee.
No, I got shit to do, no.
I'm not sitting around in my silk pajamas and my Versace robe with my gold hublo on, wasting my life watching this shit. But two billion people watched it. What did you expect to happen?
What was going to happen? They're going to walk up the stairs. They're going to stand there. Priests will talk some shit. They're going to walk off. The end. I haven't even seen it. I know what happened.
Unbelievable. Two billion.
Thank you.
Deep breaths. Okay. Andrew.
I wouldn't be great if everyone else wasn't stupid, right? It's yin and yang.
I need the inferiors so I can be superior.
So don't get mad, Andrew. This is who they are.
From the outside, it looked like something out of a fairy tale, and appeared to signal a new day for the modern British monarchy. This couple represents
It's a wonderful fairy tale. It's... it's... it's... They became one of the most talked about couples in the media.
I should have done some research before I did this video, but there was a king, I think it was in World War I or World War II, who had to abdicate the throne for marrying a divorcee.
He wanted to marry a divorcee, so he had to give up his royal privileges to marry her. He did it because he's obviously a fucking moron.
But Meghan Markle's a divorcee.
You know, this is the thing about the world, that we're throwing all tradition out the window.
What they should say is the news should say, "Prince Harry shouldn't be marrying a divorcee. He's the Prince of England. He can get himself some fresh pussy."
But no, they're like, this is a beautiful pairing. Everyone hopes that one day Harry would marry an old divorcee. Nobody wanted that.
What? Nobody wanted that. Why are they lying? Who are you lying to? The 2 billion people who are watching it?
I'm fucking real. I was unhappy. I want to go back in time and call this news station to say, no, this is not a fairy tale wedding. I'm very displeased with the fact that the Prince of England is marrying an old divorcee.
Put my opinion on the motherfucking news.
Then in January 2020... There's been an almost shockingly quick turnaround. Harry and Meghan stunned the world when they decided to step back as senior members of the royal family. Meghan seems to have moved from the nation's heroine
Just the nation's villain.
I don't think she was. Also, I'm going to keep jumping in and out of things because I read this already online. I think it was a few months ago. Aren't Meghan and Harry raising their new kid gender fluid?
I'm sure that's true. It's in the Daily Mail. Let's look that up. Somebody on the research team. Megan and Harry...
royal blood is raising the next fucking offspring, whatever they have, as gender fluid.
That is Megan's idea.
It's gotta be, because Prince William and Kate ain't playing these stupid games. Prince William the big G, Kate's there doing the Princess Ting looking good, shine up.
They ain't talking about no gender fluid. This is all Meghan.
She's corrupted. She's corrupted the royal family. She's corrupted it. Because let me tell you something, gentlemen, because I know no women watch me. Gentlemen. Gentlemen.
Thaltering!
as I said in my last video, will ruin any institution
You can have a business, you can be making money, everything's fine. Introduce one hoe into the office. She fucks one dude, fucks another dude, dude gets jealous, now two dudes are arguing. Fucks another guy, now three guys are arguing. Says some guy raped her when he didn't because she's just a drunk hoe. Now you got a sexual assault charge. Boom, boom, boom. You involve one hoe!
It's fucked. We've added one promiscuous female to the royal family. Now we've got gender fluid babies.
Thank you.
It's the royal family of Great Britain. There should be a barrier to entry.
It should be little pretty virgins walking into the prince's bedroom.
And then when some divorcee tries to walk her ass into the bedroom, a royal guard,
Goes "ah, ah, ah, ah!"
That's what should happen.
The hoes
should be stopped at the gates.
you
Tonight, for the first time, they tell their story. I'm sitting down with Megan. I think what we really have got to clear up here is that you, Megan, are the one who manipulated, calculated this Megxit. And later, Harry joins us. What was the tipping point?
Did you blind...
Why does Harry not speak alone?
Is Harry not allowed to speak alone without the female?
I'll talk alone and tell my story and then you can come and say a little bit, but I'll be there to correct you and interrupt you if you say anything I don't like. Okay, Harry?
Okay.
The fuck? You're the prince? If I was in this situation, I'd be like, listen,
Let me handle this, I'm the big G. Princes used to fight dragons!
We used to march into the sunset with a fucking shield and sword and fight a dragon. You think I can't handle fucking Oprah?
I'll handle Oprah.
I do all the talking by myself. Maybe at the end, give her a little bit of screen time.
But no, Harry doesn't get to talk on his own. Do you know why?
Harry's a bitch.
Just as I said.
First observation from King Tate.
You should write this down, ladies and gentlemen. I'd like someone to actually email me all the observations I make and how fucking brilliant my mind is. Mindside the Queen. Hi girls. I also visit them at home, where they're beginning their new life in America.
.
- Whoa! - No! I know!
You really are having a baby. - Having a baby. That's more than a bump.
I know.
Wow. - I know. - That was a hug, virtual hug.
Yeah, distance hug. So, you know, we can't hug because we're practicing-- All the things. --doing all the things. We've been so strict.
If celebrities continue with this facade COVID bullshit,
Like, oh, this is terrible. It's been it.
I don't want to ruin this video by talking about COVID.
Because anyone with a brain knows what I think about COVID.
But the whole celebrity virtue signaling bullshit really annoys me.
"Oh, don't worry, I kept my social distance while I was fucking..."
Beat a pedophile on Epstein's Island. Everybody around here, literally.
is double masked and has face shields. But you look lovely. - Thank you, so do you. - Pregnant and lovely. - Thank you, yes. - Do you know if you're having a boy or girl?
we do this time, I will wait for my husband to join us and we can share that with you. Okay, that would be really great. I can't wait to hear. So before we get into it, I just want to make it clear to everybody that
even though we're neighbors. I'm down the road, you're up the road. - Yeah, this isn't my house, this isn't your house. - This isn't my house. We were using a friend's house 'cause they had a very nice... - Beautiful. - ...barilla.
that there has not been an agreement, -you don't know what I'm going to ask. -No. And there is no subject that's off-limits. -Yeah. -And you are not getting paid for this interview. -All of that's correct. -All of that is correct. I am so bored.
I am so bored. I'm not going to make it through this. The things I go through for my YouTube channel are unbelievable.
I am so bored already.
of fucking Oprah. Just to confirm, just to confirm your first ever interview on Oprah, the biggest interview ever, we didn't discuss 1% at all what we were going to talk about yet. Did you fuck?
Why lie? Why are you lying? Of course you did.
It's the first thing that happened. What are you going to ask me? What are you going to say? It's the first thing that happened.
Am I allowed to drink on YouTube?
Thank you.
I might not get monetized.
But none of my videos get monetized. Why do none of my videos get monetized?
I'm asking my professional editing team right now in real time. Why did no company think, you know what? We need to advertise our services around this sexy motherfucker.
Why does that never happen? Nobody likes me.
Unbelievable.
In fact,
Smoking and drinking might lose me my chance of monetization, but I have a strong feeling
Me calling Meghan Markle a ho for two hours.
It's probably more likely to lose me my monetization.
So, it's already over.
Are you ready? I am. I thought that was it. I thought we were done now. I just want to ask about the baby. I'm about to go. Okay.
But I remember sitting in the chapel.
and
Thanks for inviting me, by the way. You're welcome. So I was there on that wedding day, and I so recall...
this sense of
magic. I mean I'd never experienced anything like it and
when you came through that door, it seemed like you were like,
floating down the aisle.
Were you even inside your body at that time?
Do you know who's been inside of Megan's body?
Bunch of NBA stars.
Bunch of NFL quarterbacks.
She was some D-list Canadian actress.
running around in fucking Hollywood trying to sleep her way to the top.
We want to talk about Inside Meghan's Body, let's talk about it!
Let me tell you something.
I'm part black, part white. I know.
She's part black, part white.
All right? She's going through life. She's black enough. She's white enough. She slept with a white guy, slept with a white guy, slept with one black guy. Once you go black, you don't go back.
Now she's been fucking running around with this
Dwayne.
He's leaving holes. He's messing it up.
Do you think after that she is ever going to be satisfied with what Prince Harry can provide?
Let's be honest with each other gentlemen. Do you think she's having sex with Prince Harry and going, wow, that was great.
After athletes.
Big, strong, dark athletes have messed her up.
No.
she isn't happy with what Harry can provide. Besides status and fame, because before him she was D-list,
And I used D for a reason. She wasn't C-list, she was D-list. D-list as in trying to move my way up by sucking D.
I thought about this a lot because
It was like having an out-of-body experience that I was very present for.
And that's the only way I can describe it because the night before I slept through the night entirely, which in and of itself is a bit of a miracle,
then
woke up and started listening to that song, going to the chapel and, and just tried to make it fun and light and remind ourselves that this was our day. But I think we were both really aware, even in advance of that, this, this wasn't, um,
our day.
this was the day that was planned for the world.
Everybody who gets married knows that you are really marrying the family too.
But you weren't just marrying a family, you were marrying a 1200 year old institution
You're marrying the monarchy. What did you think it was going to be like?
I will say I went into it naively.
Because I didn't grow up
knowing much about the royal family, it wasn't something that was part of
conversation at home. Now I'm analyzing very carefully here.
The joking aside, I'm paying very careful attention to her mannerisms and her facial expressions.
Very careful.
And I know exactly what she's doing.
And she's smart, this bitch.
So let's go back. I don't know how to go back a few seconds. Maybe if I press back here.
She's very clever because she's very good at leading conversations.
Now, as a master,
which is what I am.
As a master, I was in the pimp game.
I had 75 women make me over $10 million. I understand manipulation.
As a master manipulator, I know when someone's trying to manipulate. And although Oprah's the interviewer and Oprah is seasoned, that bitch has been around the block, this chick is smart. So when she wants you to agree with her, when she wants you to say yes,
She nods.
when she wants you to say no,
She shakes her head. She gives you the visual prompt.
So here while she's talking... And that's the only way I can describe it because... So we've gone back a little bit. Before I slept with her. She's talking about sleeping through the night, all that shit. Entirely. But watch when she starts saying... She starts saying certain things and she talks this way. And then...
- You'll see. - Woke up and started listening to that song, "Going to the Chapel" and just tried to make it fun and light and remind ourselves that this was our day. But I think we were both really aware, even in advance of that, this wasn't...
our day
This was the day that was planned for the world.
Everybody who gets married knows that you are really marrying the family, too.
But you weren't just marrying a family, you were marrying a 1200 year old institution
you're marrying the monarchy. What did you think it was going to be like?
I will say I went into it naively.
Because I didn't grow up
I went into it naively.
And she does this so that Oprah agrees.
Mm-hmm. So now we've established this is the little details.
I'm a chess player, right? When you lose chess,
There's very often not a big catastrophe. There's tiny catastrophes across the board that put you in a bad situation.
by saying I wanted to do it really naively and Oprah going yeah,
We've now established she was naive.
Naivety,
is a sign of victimhood.
Right?
We've already established now she's the victim. I went into this naively.
I didn't know they were so bad. Yeah.
Now the whole frame of the interview is now set. It's been a few seconds.
And she sat there and she shook her head. She got Oprah to agree with her. And now the whole world believes that she's some naive poor girl.
who didn't know that the royal family had such high expectations. How can the British royal family have high expectations of me?
I was naive. Aw, poor Megan.
Pay attention to these things, gentlemen. This is what happens. This is why I had laser eyes on this hole.
Klanushu's gonna try this shit.
Knowing much about the royal family, it wasn't something that was part of
conversation at home, it wasn't something that we followed. My mom even said to me a couple months ago,
She said, did...
Did Diana ever do an interview?
Now, now I can say, yes, a very famous one, but my mom doesn't even know that, right? But you were certainly aware of the royals. Of course. And if you're going to marry a royal, then you would do research about what that would mean. Well, I didn't do any research about what that would mean. You didn't do any research? No. No.
- Good question by Oprah. Good point by Oprah.
If you're gonna marry a royal, you do research as to what that would mean.
Well, I didn't do any research.
And you know what, Megan, the thing is, let me tell you something about females.
Especially bitches like her.
you
They have this facade of they have to try because they're so evil.
They have to try very hard to come across as nice.
That's the act for them. For most people, they're quite moderate. You can act extra nice or act mean, right? But when you're genuinely an evil bitch, you're evil all the time in private.
So when you go in public, you have to try very hard to put on the nice act. And there's always cracks.
And there was a crack right there when Oprah said,
Surely you did some research.
without even a seconds gap, no hesitation. Sure you did some research. No, I didn't do any research.
Instantly, she got mad. She's mad now. Her blood instantly boiled because someone questioned her.
Who questions, you can't question.
Meghan Markle?
How dare you question Meghan Markle? She's a princess. And if you're going to marry a royal, then you would do research about what that would mean. Well, I didn't do any research about what that would mean. You didn't do any research? No. I didn't do any research.
I'm innocent, remember? We've just established I was naive.
How dare you assume I should have done research? I'm naive.
Didn't you do some research to marry a moral? I didn't do any research. I didn't know anything.
Extremely defensive.
Because she's an evil bitch.
This is what I'm seeing so far. Like I said, I wanted to do this non-biased. This is not me hating on Megan. I'm just telling you what I see.
I do see an evil person pretending to be nice.
That's what I see. Nothing to do with my dislike for Meghan or my dislike for Harry. I hate both of them the same.
I'm just telling you what I genuinely see as a professional.
Because that's what I am.
I've never looked up my husband online. I just didn't feel a need to because everything that I needed to know he was sharing with me, right? Everything that we thought I needed to know he was telling me. So you didn't have a con...
Everything that I thought
Everything that we thought I needed to know.
So everything I didn't know wasn't my fault.
because he thought
Everything that he thought I needed to know. But it turns out there's a lot more I needed to know that he didn't tell me because I'm naive.
These are very subtle cues. I don't want you guys thinking I'm nitpicking, but on a chess board. That's what happens.
You control a certain square, a pawn movement. You restrict movement of a particular piece. You slowly constrict
And what she's doing is slowly constricting the narrative
I am naive. I did no research and it's unfair of you to have expected me to have done research.
Harry, I never looked Harry up, Harry was supposed to tell me everything I needed to know.
but he failed to do so. I am a victim
This is what she is attempting to do.
And this is what she's doing so far. I'd love to interview her because I wouldn't allow her these language tricks.
and she'd become instantly infuriated
Because I am smarter than she is.
It would be difficult to calculate with a pen and paper, a calculator, a motherfucking CERN, a telescope, whatever you want.
How much more intelligent I am than her.
So she couldn't play these tricks on the boss.
But you can play him on Oprah, as seasoned as Oprah is. Because Oprah doesn't want to come across confrontational. But if Oprah...
was not afraid to look confrontational, she would stop her right there and say,
Why should Harry tell you everything?
You didn't do any research at all into the royal family? Not a single thing?
Is that arrogant?
conversation with yourself or talking to your friends or thinking about what it's like, what it would be like to marry
a prince
who is Harry, who you had fallen in love with, and what it would mean to be a part of that family. You didn't give it a lot of thought? No, we thought about
what we thought it might be. Yeah.
Which is, that's what I'm trying to get. Yeah, I mean, like, I didn't fully understand what the job was, right? What does it mean to be a working royal? What do you do? What does that mean? I knew that he and I were very aligned on...
all of our cause-driven work that was part of our initial connection
and what we talked about in the beginning of our courtship,
But I think
there was no way to understand what the day-to-day was going to be like. And it's so different because
I didn't romanticize any...
element of it, but I think as Americans especially,
What do you know about the royals? It's what you read in fairy tales. You think is what you know about the royals, right? So it's easy to...
have an image of it that is so far from
from reality and that's what was really tricky over those past few years is
when the perception and the reality are two very different things,
and you're being judged on the perception but you're living the reality of it,
there's a complete misalignment and there's no... Okay, so she's saying...
I expected a fairy tale and it was not a fairy tale.
It's basically what she's saying.
So let's hope she gives some more detail on as to why it was not a fairy tale.
because
In my view,
her terrible existence
the reality of being a royal which she says is not actually a fairy tale i think for you watching out there and me and for most normal people we would consider it a fairy tale right
I mean is it one of the best existences on earth? I mean you have no financial trouble.
You have no safety issues. I mean, you do whatever you want.
Most people would call that a fairy tale, but to her, she's making it very clear that
It was devastatingly painful to endure.
So I'm very interested to hear
about what terrible experiences our poor Megan
had to endure at expense of Harry, who didn't tell her enough,
before he was kind enough to make a divorcee
a princess.
No way to explain that to people. Well, you know, in every family, I think, things get serious when you are brought in to meet the mother or the grandmother. And in everybody's family, who's watching right now, the grandmother is the matriarch. And...
known in many families as the queen. Yeah. And she was one of the first people I met. In your situation, it's the queen. The real queen. The real queen that you're, you're, you're meeting and
What was that like? Were you worried about
making the right impression.
There wasn't actually a huge
formality the first time I met
Her Majesty the Queen, I...
We were going to lunch at Royal Lodge, which is where
Some other members of the family live, specifically Andrew and Fergie and usually Beatrice would spend a lot of time there.
And Eugenie and I had known each other before I had known Harry.
So that was comfortable, and we were friends with them as a couple.
um
And then it turned out the queen was...
finishing a church service there in Windsor. And so she was going to be at the house. And I remember Erin and I were in the car and,
He says, "Okay, well, my grandmother's there, so you're gonna meet her." I go, "Great! I love my grandmother. I used to take care of my grandmother. This is great."
Right, do you know how to curtsy?
- Perfect.
What?
So do you know how to curtsy? Now I thought genuinely that that was what happens
outside. I thought that was part of the fanfare.
I didn't think that's what happens inside. And I said, but it's your grandmother. He goes,
It's the Queen.
Wow. And that was really the first moment that the penny dropped, that this wasn't... It was easy for me up until then to go...
She took offense.
Because that's what she's saying. The penny dropped. I couldn't believe it. In public, I have to pretend to respect the Queen of England. But in private, I could not believe they expected me to respect the Queen of England. That's when the penny dropped. After he asked me if I can do a very small ancient tradition, a small gesture that will take less than one calorie to perform on the first time I'm meeting the most important and iconic royal,
on the face of the planet. When he asked me if I could slightly bend my knee a little bit to meet the queen, the penny dropped.
This is unacceptable.
What kind of brat, bitch? I'll curtsy for any old lady.
She's been around a long time. People call me arrogant. I'll go up to any old lady. She doesn't have to be the queen. Hi, very nice to meet you. Very, no problem. She's like the penny drop. I could not believe. He asked me to curtsy. Oh my, look how offended she is.
Of course he did.
You're a D-list celebrity. She's the queen of fucking England.
Why does that drop a penny in your mind?
That because you have to show respect and be polite, why does that offend you so? I'll tell you why. Because you're evil.
and deeply arrogant.
deeply arrogant and you're bitter and you're sad.
And when you're sad inside, you don't want to see other people happy. You don't want happiness. You're a black hole, a vortex, and you want to suck all the happiness in.
That's who she is. That was a very important segment.
And I told you a lot about their relationship. 'Cause what it's saying is every time Harry asked me to do anything, no matter how small, I resisted.
Is that normal behavior in a male-female dynamic?
especially when you're the Prince of England,
I refuse to do anything, no matter how small, to retain tradition.
That's when the penny dropped. I couldn't believe the fairy tale had been shattered.
He asked me to say hello.
the way everyone else says hello. I'm Meghan Markle.
I got something for her.
Pimp hand.
Did you Google how to curtsy? I learned it very quickly right in front of the house. We just practiced and then walked in and you and Harry practiced.
Yeah, and Fergie ran out and she said, "Are you ready? Do you know how to curtsy?" I said, "Oh my goodness, you guys."
And so I practiced really quickly and we went in and I met her and apparently I did a very deep curtsy and I don't remember it.
And then we just sat there and we chatted and, um,
And it was--
lovely and easy and and I think thank God I hadn't known a lot about the family. Thank God I hadn't researched and
I would have been so in my head about all of it.
I would have had it...
So you're basically--
What you're sharing with us is that you were no more nervous than the regular person who goes to meet somebody's grandmother. You weren't that intimidating because it was the queen. I think it's two things.
I had confused
The idea of, although I grew up in LA, you see celebrities all the time.
This is not the same.
right? But it's very easy, I think, especially as an American to go, "Oh,
these are famous people. It's like, no, this is...
This is a completely different ball game.
Were you silent or were you silenced?
you
What does it feel like here? What's the word?
Thank you.
Peace. Peace.
The day after our interview, I stopped over to Harry and Megan's new home.
Thank God.
Hi, Guy. Yeah, Guy's been...
Guy's been through everything with me.
Yeah, from the beginning, from the very first day. Yeah, yeah. Guy, I mean, I had him,
In Canada, I got him from a kill shelter in Kentucky.
Hi, girls. We put on our wellies to feed the hens Megan and Harry recently rescued.
from a factory farm.
Bye.
I love your little designer house here.
Archie's chicken. We save animals. I saved the dog from Kentucky. I saved the
Chickens from the farm That's all this is this is propagandizing right she's a really nice person blah blah blah blah She's always wanted chickens You know I just love rescuing so I just love rescuing
Who says that?
Who would ever say that unless they're on TV? Shut up.
Shut up. Most excited about this? What are you most excited about in the new life? What are you most excited? You chick chick chick chick chick.
I think just being able to live
authentically right like this kind of stuff it's so
It's
so basic but
It's really fulfilling.
and just getting back down to basics. And I was thinking about it, even our wedding,
You know, three days before our wedding, we got married.
No one knows that, but we called the Archbishop and we just said, "Look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world."
but we want our union between us. So like the vows that we have framed in our room are just the two of us in our backyard with the Archbishop of Canterbury, and that was the piece that... Just the three of us. Just the three of us.
You know, the wedding was the most perfect picture...
anybody's ever seen
But through that picture that we were all seeing, behind the scenes, obviously,
there was a lot of drama going on.
And soon after your marriage, the tabloids started
offering stories that
painted a not so flattering picture
of you
in your new world. There were rumors about you being Hurricane-- Megan? I hadn't heard that. OK.
So the rumors about you being a hurricane
Megan.
for the departure of several high-profile palace staff members.
and
There was also a story, did you hear this one about,
you making Kate
Middleton Cry.
This I heard about. You heard about that? Okay.
This was, that was a turning point.
That was a turning point.
Six months after Harry and Meghan's wedding, headlines began to swirl about a rift between Meghan and her sister-in-law.
The Duchess of Cambridge... Because the Duchess of Cambridge
knew exactly what she was signing up for and fulfilled her role.
You came in.
and caused a storm.
People don't like new members to organizations which cause upset.
I gave the business example earlier. Imagine you have a business. Everything's fine. It's functioning. In fact, it's the most famous and respected business in the world of its kind, as is the British royal family.
You've been around for thousands of years.
some new D-list divorcee, washed up actress comes in and starts telling you how to act and what to think.
Would you be happy she is now part of your organization?
Kate Middleton. It was reported that Megan had left Kate in tears over the bride-to-be's strict demands over flower girl dresses.
The narrative with Kate, which didn't happen, was really, really difficult and something that
I think that's when everything changed, really.
You say the narrative with Kate, it didn't happen. So specifically, did you make Kate cry? No. No.
So where did that come from?
Thank you.
Shhhhhh.
Was there a situation where she might have cried, or she could have cried? No, no, the reverse happened.
And I don't--
I didn't make her cry.
She made me cry.
Shut up, fucking bitch.
I'm a liar.
I'm a liar. Every man out there knows a hoe like this.
she does something wrong you're like why did you do that i didn't do that you did that shut up
Idiots say that
to be disparaging to anyone because
It was a really hard week of the wedding and she was upset about something but
she owned it and she apologized and she brought me flowers and
a note apologizing and she did what I would do if I knew that I hurt someone, right? To just take accountability for it. What was shocking was
what was that, six, seven months after our wedding? That the reverse of that
would be out in the world. The story came out six, seven months after it actually happened. Yeah. So when you say- I would have never wanted that to come out about her.
ever, even though it happened. I protected that from ever being out in the world. So when you say the reverse happened, explain to us what you mean.
I protected her even though she made me cry.
by that.
Thank you.
A few days before the wedding, she was upset about
something.
pertaining to yes, the issue was correct about flower girl dresses and
It made me cry.
and it really hurt my feelings. And I thought in the context of everything else that was going on in those days leading to the wedding,
that
It didn't make sense.
to not be just
doing whatever
what everyone else was doing, which was trying to be supportive, knowing what was going on with my dad and whatnot. This was a really big story.
I don't understand why she didn't do anything I wanted, everything I wanted. That's what she just said in the context of the wedding.
and what's going on with my dad and what everyone else was doing was being supportive.
I don't understand why she wouldn't do everything I wanted.
Now, I'm not gonna pretend I know everything. Like I said, I'm gonna be very fair. I don't understand why Kate would be upset about flower girl dresses.
I don't understand.
enough about the protocols of weddings or the royal family in general as to why that would matter.
But I doubt the Duchess of Cambridge.
would bother to kick up an issue over nothing. So there's obviously some kind of issue.
And what Megan is saying is,
I don't understand why she would not do everything I wanted.
That's what she's effectively saying. And she made me cry and I am the victim and I didn't tell anyone.
because I'm an angel.
story at the time that you made Kate cry. Now you're saying
You didn't make Kate cry, Kate made you cry.
So we all want to know what
would make you cry? What were you going through
you were going through all of the anxiety that brides go through putting their wedding together.
and going through all of the issues with your father. Was he coming? Was he not coming? And there was a confrontation over the
the dresses. It wasn't a confrontation and I actually think it's
I don't think it's fair to her to get into the details of that because she apologized. And I've forgiven her, right? What was hard to get over
was being blamed for something that not only I didn't do,
but that happened to me and the people who were part of our wedding going to our comms team and saying,
I know this didn't happen.
I don't have to tell them what actually happened, but I can at least go on the record and say, "She didn't make her cry," and they were all told to say... So all the time the stories are out there, you had made Kate cry.
you knew all along and people around you knew that that wasn't true. Everyone in the institution knew it wasn't true. So why didn't somebody just say that? It's a good question.
I'm not sharing that piece about Kate in any way to be disparaging to her. I think it's really important for people to understand the truth,
But also I think a lot of it that was fed into
by the media and look, I would hope that she would have wanted that corrected. And maybe in the same way that the palace wouldn't let anybody else
negate it, they wouldn't let her because she's a good person.
And I think so much of what I have seen play out is this idea of polarity.
where
If you love me, you don't have to hate her.
And if you love her, you don't need to hate me.
You know, there were several stories
Smart.
That was very smart by her. Smart thing to say.
good for rapport that's that's an intelligent thing to say i'm not this is no shade at all that was an intelligent move to make and the reason it was an intelligent move to make is because
Kate is far more popular than she is.
If you like me, you don't have to hate her. Who likes Meghan and hates Kate?
Nobody.
And if you like Kate, you don't have to hate me.
the majority. So that was very clever.
that compared headlines written about you to those written about Kate. Since you don't read things, let me just tell you what was said.
There were stories where Kate was being pricked. She's bracing herself there. Okay, okay, please tell me the horrible things they're gonna say about me. ...based for holding her baby bump. Oh gosh, have I done it since we've been sitting down? You've been doing it the whole time.
Okay.
Kate was praised for cradling her baby bum.
And the headline about you doing the same thing said, Megan can't keep hands off her baby bump for pride or vanity.
What does it have to do with pride or vanity?
Well, I'm just telling you about the stories. Okay, I hear you. There was a whole online piece about this. Kate eating avocados to help with morning sickness. Oh, I heard about the avocado. But you were eating avocados.
And fueling murder, apparently. Wolfing down a fruit linked to water shortages, illegal deforestation, and environmental devastation.
There seems to be there was a-- - That's a really loaded piece of toast.
- No, that is absolutely loaded. So if we're gonna start discussing the fake news and the narratives they paint,
well then that's a completely different argument. And I agree with her there that those are obviously loaded
loaded articles with loaded intentions, but every single piece of news in the world is loaded, right? And she's part of liberal Hollywood, which we know is completely loaded. And we know that all the media that comes out of liberal Hollywood is loaded with certain agendas towards Democrats, etc, etc. I don't want to go down the political route.
But that's the media.
The media is loaded. So I agree with her there. She has a point. I don't see why that's Harry's fault.
I don't see how that's the royal family's fault.
unless they've deliberately tried to make people dislike a member of the royal family, perhaps.
We'll see what she has to say about that. But I wouldn't blame Harry for...
some
22-year-old uni grad reporter complaining about avocados, but maybe she does because...
He's her punching bag, so we'll see. - I mean, we'll have to laugh at a certain point, because it's just ridiculous. - That's good, that's a loaded piece of toast. It's about deforestation. - Oh man. - Oh wow. So do you think there was a standard for Kate?
in general and a separate one for you? And if so, why?
Um...
I don't know why.
.
I can see now what layers were at play there.
And again, they really seem to want a narrative of...
a hero and a villain.
Yeah.
You came in as the first mixed race person to marry into the family. And did that concern you in being able to fit in?
You came in as an American. You came in as an actress. You came in as a divorcee. You came in as an independent
woman, you came in as the first mixed-race person to...
marry into the family, and yours was a different story. And did that--
concern you in...
being able to fit in. Did you think about that at all?
Well, I thought about it because
They made me think about it, right? But I think at the same time now, upon reflection, thank God all of those things were true.
Thank God I had that life experience. Thank God I had known the value of
working. My first job was when I was
13 at a frozen yogurt shop called Humphrey Yogurt.
- Mm-hmm. - Um...
I've always worked. I've always valued independence. I've always been outspoken, especially about women's rights. I mean, that's the sad irony of the last four years, is I've advocated for so long
for women to use their voice.
And then...
I was silent.
Uh,
You weren't very silent. This is actually turning up more interesting than I thought it would be. So there's a lot of observations about the blow. Let me finish. Were you silent?
Or were you silenced?
the ladder.
So how does that work? Were you told? Why would... But this is what she doesn't understand. She's an...
I understand her point. There was definitely a different narrative for Kate and for her.
She's saying she doesn't know why. The reason is because she's dislikable as an individual.
When you're a dislikable person, there's a narrative, right? There's a narrative about me on YouTube.
because I'm dislikable, I understand it. I'm not gonna sit here and be like, "Why do people say I'm arrogant?" I get it, right? She's so narcissistic, she doesn't understand why people would paint an error of her in a negative light. Well, it's very simple, because you're an extremely arrogant individual.
You're going to sit there and say, I'm so glad I was always outspoken about women's rights.
This is the royal family.
There are certain things in the world
That when you sign up for them, you agree to the terms and conditions. You click that box. You agree to the terms and conditions. So we're...
The tone of the public image
was never a mouthy female.
that's never been respected,
in the royal family. In fact,
It's never been respected in the world until very recently. Well, now the world pretends it respects mouthy females. But in general, any man who's honest knows.
Nobody likes mouthy females, especially not in the royal family.
That's not why you joined.
the royal family to be a mouthy female. Now you think what you're doing is important and you think that, yeah, but I'm bringing change and I'm helping them change their ways and I'm bringing light and bringing a modern fresh approach to the modern royal family.
You're a mouthy female.
And you're not needed.
Your surplus to requirements.
The royal family has very particular roles. There's no need for you.
and your opinions and your ego.
And that's why the narrative of you is negative, because 99% of the world understands that. You fail to understand that because you are extremely narcissistic.
Meghan Markle.
I know you watch my videos and
Because as discussed earlier, we know you like chocolate.
And I'm caramel, which is close enough.
Listen, you're banging the whitest dude, Mr. Ed Sheeran.
I'm definitely black enough to take a spin on you.
So I know you watch my videos, Megan. You got a bad attitude.
And if you're getting fucked right,
You wouldn't do this shit.
But because Harry cannot satisfy you sexually,
It inspires you to be an egotistical evil bitch with a big mouth, like every other female on earth who doesn't get fucked right.
That's what's happening here.
So I'm glad I was so independent. I was raised to be independent to be a mouthy bitch.
I'm sure that's what the Queen of England wanted from her future princess. I really hope you get some mouthy bitch from the States, some washed up actress. I really hope you get someone who won't shut the fuck up.
by the comms people or the
I don't know, the institution? Were you told to keep silent? How were you told to handle tabloids or
gossip.
Were you told to say nothing?
everyone from everyone in my world.
was given
very clear directive from the moment
the world knew Harry and I were dating to always say no comment. So that's my friends, my mom and dad,
And we did. I did anything they told me to do. Of course I did, because it was also through the lens of
and will protect you.
So even as things started to roll out in the media that I didn't see, but my friends would call me and say, Meg, this is,
really bad.
Because I didn't see it. I'd go. Don't worry. I'm being protected. I believed that I
and
And I think that was...
That was really hard to reconcile because
It was only
It was only once we were married and everything started to really worsen
that I came to understand that not only was I not being protected
but that they were willing
to lie to protect other members of the family.
but they weren't willing to tell the truth to protect me and my husband.
So are you saying you did not feel-- So she's saying the royal family. So her narrative is coming together.
I was naive.
Harry did not tell me everything. I did no research at all.
I am disliked within the royal family, and the royal family decided to ruin my reputation to save the Rome. This is her narrative. This is her story.
So you all understand.
support it
Bye.
the
powers that be, be that the firm, the monarchy,
Thank you.
All of them.
Um...
It's hard for people to distinguish the two because it's a family business, right? So there's the family and then there's the people that are running the institution. Those are two separate things and it's important to be able to compartmentalize that because the queen, for example...
has always been
wonderful to me.
I mean, we
had one of our first joint engagement together, she asked me to join her.
Was this on the train?
Yeah, on the train.
And we had breakfast together that morning, and she'd given me a beautiful gift, and I just really loved being in her company. And I remember we were in the car. Can you share what the gift was?
Yes, she gave me some beautiful pearl earrings and a matching necklace.
Um...
We were in the car going between engagement
Meghan Markle is not actually a complete moron. She's exactly, she's actually very manipulative. She's smart.
She couldn't insult the Queen.
Right?
The Queen could have been horrible to her. You can't go on this interview and say the Queen was a bitch.
Because that's a nail in the coffin for you.
Because that's the queen of England. So she knows how to pick her allies. She's clever. And...
And she has a-- I love the queen.
I love the royal family. It's the hidden shadow figures. That's what she's going to say. A blanket that sits across her knees...
for warmth and it was chilly and she was like
Megan, come on and put it over my knees as well. Oh, nice. Like just moments of...
And it made me think of my grandmother. She's always been warm and inviting and really welcoming. So, OK, so she made you feel welcome. Did you feel welcomed by everyone?
it seemed like you and Kate at the Wimbledon game where you
We're going to watch a friend play tennis.
Was it what it--
Why did they laugh there when she said a friend played tennis?
Is there something I don't know here?
She's laughing.
Thank you.
At the Wimbledon game, when you and Kate went to watch a friend play tennis,
That was a laugh, that was a laugh like,
I've sucked dick laugh.
That's what it was, bro. You're laughing. I'm telling you, I know the game.
Kate
Megan
Wimbledon.
Wimbledon...
Oh, it was Serena Williams.
She definitely sucked dick then, because we all know what I think about Serena. Anyway... What do you look like? You are two sister-in-laws out there in the world.
getting to know each other? Was she helping you, embracing you into the family?
helping you adjust
I think everyone
welcomed me.
and
And yeah, and when you say, was it what it looked like,
My understanding and my experience of the past four years is it's nothing like what it looks like.
It's nothing like what it looks like. I was tricked. She's sticking to her narrative. Her narrative is clear.
And I remember so often people within the firm would say,
Well, you can't do this because it'll look like that. You can't, so even, can I go and have lunch with my friends?
no, no, no, you're oversaturated, you're everywhere, it would be best for you to not go out to lunch with your friends. I go, why haven't...
I haven't left the house and...
I mean, there was a day that one of the members of the family, she came over and she said, "Why don't you just lay low for a little while?"
Because you are everywhere right now.
And I said,
I've left the house twice in four months.
I'm everywhere, but I am nowhere.
And from that standpoint, I continued to say to people, I know there's an obsession with how things look,
But has anyone talked about how it feels?
because right now I could not feel lonelier.
Hmm.
Thank you.
You're not lonely if you're a man, you're still fucking.
What's the problem there?
Stuck in the house with Harry.
She didn't want to marry Harry, right? She wanted to be a princess. Now she's stuck in the house with Harry.
I married you to be a princess, but now I'm actually stuck in the house with you.
I get what she's saying. It's a fair point.
I'm everywhere.
They're making me have to stay in the house. I want to go for lunch with friends. But this goes back to my initial point. I'm trying to be very fair here because I'm a fair guy. I don't just want to hate on her.
And yeah, that's a semi-valid point, but you've joined the royal family.
So when the royal advisors say you can't go for lunch, you're going to cry over not being able to have prawn toast with some other washed up actress?
You're a princess now.
That's what you signed up for.
You were feeling lonely even though you're Prince, you're in love, you're with him. I'm not lonely. I wasn't lonely with him. There are moments that he had to work or he had to go away. There's...
these moments in the middle of the night,
And so,
There was--
Oprah, Oprah's doing a pretty good job. I'm not gonna hate on Oprah.
She said, well, I just said.
You're lonely, you're with your prince.
"Oh, I wasn't lonely with him. "I was lonely 'cause I didn't see my friends." And there were moments in the middle of the night
Where's the prince in the middle of the night?
Suckers dig.
Oh, you don't want his dick, do you? We've discussed this. Sorry, we've already discussed this. She doesn't want his dick. She wants chocolate dick.
She's thinking, ah, man, if I was just at the after party of the Lakers game,
I wouldn't be lonely.
You have lots of friends, though. Very little that I was allowed to do.
And so yeah, of course that breeds loneliness when you've come from such a full life, or when you've come from freedom. I think the easiest way that now people can understand it is what we've all gone through.
in lockdown. Yeah, well everybody can certainly relate now.
in those months when I was pregnant,
all around this same time. So we have in tandem the conversation of he won't be given security, he's not going to be given a title, and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born.
What?
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's a fucking lie. That's a lie!
Bye!
Thank you.
Not many people have asked if I'm okay, but it's, um...
It's a very real thing to be going through behind the scenes. And the answer? Nobody's asking if I'm okay. It's very real to be a princess.
- -
There are kids getting bombed in Syria, bitch.
Shut up!
Shut up!
Now,
Because I'm a solution provider,
the more astute of you watching this will say, "Well, Andrew, what was she supposed to do? She's joined the royal family,
She's unhappy.
"She was ill-informed.
Made a bad decision and she's unhappy. How does she...
come across
How does she get her point across without looking like a cunt?
Effectively.
The answer to that is to take some responsibility.
At no point during this interview thus far is she taking responsibility.
She was tricked.
She was naive. Nobody told her. Everyone went behind her back. I thought they were being my friend, but they were evil. Poor me, poor me. Whereas what she could do if she was a decent human being is saying, I love Harry very much.
I signed up to be a member of the Royal family.
It's an institution which is thousands of years old, which is very rooted in tradition,
which of course it should be, like all old institutions. I didn't feel up to the task.
I have absolute respect for the royal family.
But I didn't feel I could do it justice based on my own personal morals. And I thought it was best.
that I left
I'm the problem. They're not the problem. I just can't be how they want me to be.
Fine.
You don't come along and say, well, I have a big mouth and they wouldn't let me talk.
How dare they?
See the difference there? There's a very difference in narrative. If she would just own up to something...
She could say all the same points,
and look like an adult, instead of looking like a spoiled child.
Just how she currently looks. Spoiled bitch.
That's what she is. Your answer is... would it be fair to say not really? Okay?
really been a struggle.
Yes.
- Well, I would have to say,
in South Africa, when the reporter stopped and asked, "Are you okay?"
And...
Oof, we all felt that. Why did that question strike such a nerve? What was going on with you?
internally at that time.
That was the last day of the tour.
You know, those tours are
I'm sure they have beautiful pictures and it looks vibrant, and all of that is true. It's also really exhausting. So I was fried and I
This is hard for me to get through. I went on a tour of South Africa as a princess.
treated to the best South Africa possibly has to offer because I am a royal member of the British family.
And it was so hard and I was exhausted and it was so difficult.
I went on holiday.
I went on holiday, I had to appear for photographs four times!
Unbelievable.
Poor thing. I take it all back.
How did she possibly, how could she possibly have boarded her private jet in the UK, flown to South Africa under full security and treated like a princess, literally a princess,
and have to take the old photo, how could I and everyone else not consider how tiring that would be?
That would be so tiring. Wouldn't that be tiring?
Super tiring. As a world champion combat athlete, as a four-time kickboxing world champion, I thought I understood what fatigue was. Because when I was training and working my ass off, broke as a joke, running to the gym, training, getting punched in the face, running home, and then going to work a full 12-hour shift, I thought I understood tired.
but I've never had to take photos in South Africa.
as part of a princess.
Royal Parade.
around the country
So of course, of course she's tired.
You're insensitive. I can see on his face. He's looking how insensitive he is. He doesn't care at all, does he? Doesn't care at all.
Unbelievable.
You're a terrible person.
And you always bleep out your name.
But that's what you are. I think it just hit me so hard because
We were making it look like everything was fine.
I could understand why people were really
surprised to see that there was pain there because we were doing our job.
our job was to
be on and to smile and so
When he asked me that,
um,
I guess I had felt that it had never occurred to anyone that I...
that I wasn't okay and that I had really been suffering and I had known
for a long time and had been asking the institution for help for quite a long time. Help for what?
- Hope for what?
After we had gotten back from our Australia tour, which was about a year before that,
Yes.
um
And we talked about when things really started to turn, when I knew we weren't being protected. And it was during that...
part of my pregnancy especially that
I started to understand what our continued reality was going to look like. What kind of protection did you want
that you
Did she answer Oprah's question?
This is what I mean. Oprah, you're better than this.
Help for what?
Well, um, pauses, thinks.
Um, thanks.
after Australia changes the entire situation.
When I got back,
I realized
My continued reality? Blah, blah, blah, what's it gonna look like? Okay.
Help for what?
Repeat the question, 'cause she didn't answer it. That's what I do. Okay, you went to Australia as well as South Africa. You had two holidays.
Interesting. Help for what?
Mm-hmm.
Mm -hmm.
feel you didn't receive.
Thank you.
I mean, they...
would go on the record and negate
the most ridiculous story for anyone, right? I'm talking about
things that are super
artificial and inconsequential.
But the narrative about making Kate cry, I think, was the beginning of a real character assassination. And they knew it wasn't true.
And I felt, well, if they're not going to kill things like that, then what are we going to do?
separate from that and what was happening behind closed doors was
You know, we knew I was pregnant. We now know it's Archie. And it was a boy. We didn't know any of that at the time.
We can just talk about it as Archie now.
And that was when they were saying,
they didn't want him to be a prince or princess, not knowing what the gender would be, which would be
different from protocol.
and that he wasn't going to receive security.
Oprah needs to ask why?
So next question, I've never seen this interview. Next logical question is why?
They're saying my child will not have security and will not be a prince or princess.
Why were they saying that? Is it because you were shitting on tradition? Is it because you were running your mouth? Is it because you were saying, I don't like the way any of this works? Well, if you don't like the way it works, then your child's not gonna be a princess or a prince.
Maybe she's asked for it.
So why? That's what I want to know.
What?
It was really hard.
Why? Why?
He wasn't going to receive security. Why?
This went on for the last few months of- Why?
pregnancy
where I'm going, hold on a second.
that your son and Harry, Prince Harry's son, was not going to receive security? Why?
I know. But how does that work? How does that work?
It's like, "No, no, no, because if he's not gonna be a prince, he needs to be safe."
So we're not saying don't make him a prince or a princess, whatever it's going to be. But if you're saying the title...
is what's going to affect their protection
we haven't created this
monster machine around us in terms of
clickbait and tabloid fodder,
you've allowed that to happen, which means
our son needs to be safe. So how do they explain to you that you're
sun
the grandson
*sigh*
the great-grandson of the Queen,
is not going to have
He wasn't going to be a prince. How do they tell you that? And what reasons did they give? And then say, and so therefore you don't need protection.
third
There's no explanation.
Bullshit. Lie, lie, lie. Oprah asked her. They said your son wouldn't be a prince.
Why did they say that?
There's no explanation. That is a fucking lie.
My lie detector is flawless. Nobody comes to you and says your kid will not be a prince. Because here's how the conversation goes. Hello, Megan. Your child will not be a prince, although it is protocol for your child to be a prince.
What's the first thing you say when someone says that to you?
Why?
That's your first answer. That's your first thing. You're a child, which should be a prince, will not be a prince.
Why not?
It's the first thing you'd ask, right?
The reason she's saying there was no explanation is because they gave her an explanation. It's a good one.
That's what happened. She said why? They said because you got a big mouth and all you do is shit on the royal family.
And now she's gonna sit there and go, "There was no explanation." That is a lie!
That is a lie.
Do you know how many women have tried to lie to me?
You cannot lie to me. That was a fucking lie. All the real G's out here know that's a lie. If it, Judge Judy is the smartest female on the planet.
I say women aren't that smart. Judge Judy's a genius. She says something I like. If it doesn't make sense, it didn't happen.
Judge Judy.
That doesn't make sense. They told you your child would not be protected and not be a prince and you didn't ask why and no one gave an explanation. That doesn't make sense.
Liar!
She's a liar. That's her first, most obvious lie. Up until this point, she's manipulated.
Up until this point, she's been very clever with how she's bent the truth, how she's portrayed certain facts.
She's lied by omission.
meaning she's missed out key details of situations, which is effectively a lie. But this is her first blunt lie because she was told why.
And she's pretending she wasn't.
lie.
Liar, Meghan Markle. I know you're still watching this.
Don't worry, I'm still gonna fuck you.
because I don't tell my boys.
but you're a fucking liar.
You're a liar, bitch.
I'm gonna smack the shit out of you. There's no version. I mean, that's the other piece of it. Who tells you that?
I heard a lot of it through Harry and then other parts of it through conversations with
family members. And it was a decision that they felt was appropriate.
And I thought, well,
Was the title, was him being called a prince?
Archie being called the Prince, was that important to you?
Thank you.
If it meant he was going to be safe, then of course. All the grandeur surrounding this stuff is an attachment that I don't personally have, right? I've been a...
waitress and actress, princess and duchess have always just still been Megan, right? So for me, I'm
clear on who I am independent of that stuff and the most important title I will ever have is mom I know that
but the idea of our son not being safe
and also the idea of the first
member of color in this family.
We all knew it was coming.
is to get a jail-free card of the modern world.
isn't it?
I did everything wrong.
But it's because I'm a little bit brown.
Megan, you're lighter than me. Look at her face. She's white. She's basically white. She's lighter than me. Megan, no one looks at you and thinks black girl. Nobody. Don't try the black person card. If you're black and you're watching this, you should be very offended that this
light skinned woman is gonna try and play the black card.
I was victimized because I am a Negro. Look at your straight hair. Shut up.
"You ain't black, be quiet. "I wanna see her season some chicken."
If you're so black, season me some chicken, bitch. And when it comes back,
TASTELESS!
Bland! Then we will know. We'll know conclusively.
You ain't black. Stop saying it.
Liar! You're a liar! And now she's adding race. Because what happened is Oprah was starting to dig a bit.
She told her front old lie, and Oprah questioned her very subtly.
But who said that? Why were they saying that? And Megan saw herself getting cornered in her lie. She's told a lie and she's starting to get cornered.
So when you get cornered, you bring out the big guns. You're getting cornered. Shit, shit, shit. Race!
- Pow, race, race! Whoa, stop, race!
Let's change the subject. Let's move it in a different direction, you caught me.
"Race, look at my skin, look at my pigment."
I'm a tiny bit brown.
Shut up.
Shut up! Not being titled in the same way.
that other
grandchildren would be.
The other piece of that conversation is there's a convention, I don't know if it's George V or George VI convention, that's
When you're the grandchild of the monarch,
So when Harry's dad becomes king, automatically,
Archie and our next baby would become prince or princess or whatever they're going to be. So for you it's about protection and safety.
not so much as what the what the title
- That's a huge piece of it, but I mean, but the-- - And that having the title gives you the safety and protection. - Yeah, but also it's not their right to take it away. - Yeah. - Right? And so I think even with that convention I'm talking about, while I was pregnant, they said they want-- - Why did they take it away? This is the-- Oprah, come on, why? Dig, damn it, she's lying to you, why?
It's not the right to take it away. I agree with you. It's not the right to take it away. Why did they take it away? Why? They must have told you someone at some point in years you were in the royal family must have told you why.
Why?
Don't let this pitch off too easy! I'm gonna change the convention.
For Archie. Well,
Why?
Did you get an answer? No. So she's asking! Why? And no one told me why. Liar!
Liar, liar, pants on.
You don't have an answer. No. You know, we had heard the world, those of us out here reading the things or hearing the things, that it was you and Harry
who didn't want
Archie to have a Prince title.
Doesn't that sound a lot more realistic?
Genuinely, doesn't that sound more realistic? Doesn't that sound more realistic that this entitled bitch who's in charge of her man said, Oh, we don't want our kid to be a royal because we don't like you royals.
And they said, well, if you're not going to be a royal, you're not going to get protection.
Oh, but no, we want protection. You just said you didn't want to be a royal.
We know they don't want to be royals because they fucking laughed. So why would they want their kids to be something they don't want to be?
Doesn't it sound more logical that this entitled bimbo and her husband said we don't want our kid to be
a prince and they said well then you're not going to get protection then her say they said he couldn't be a prince and didn't say why
Which makes more sense? Because remember, if it doesn't make sense, it didn't happen.
Usually water flows downstream. This is how the world works. And the most logical, the most logical conclusion is usually obviously correct, right? It's 99.9% of life.
What was more likely?
That's how the world works.
It is far more likely that you
said, "I don't want my kid to be a royal," run in your mouth, and then you found out there was a consequence to that, lack of security,
and then started to bitch about it. Then, them tell you, without reason, they're going to break royal protocol and not make the queen's great-grandson a prince.
That doesn't make sense.
She's fucking lying.
Liar.
So you're telling me that is not true? No, and it's not our decision to make.
Right? Even though I have a lot of
clarity on what comes with the titles
good and bad,
and from my experience, a lot of pain.
Even though I know the title is full of pain,
It's not up to me. So now she's admitting on top of that. She's saying, I don't want him to be, I didn't want him to be one. It's full of pain. She's admitting. She's basically admitting it.
I didn't want my son to be royal. They told me you couldn't have protection, so I started crying my eyes out about it, 'cause I'm a fucking hypocritical bitch, and I want him to have protection without being a royal, 'cause I want the best of both worlds, 'cause I'm a D-list actress.
I again wouldn't wish pain on my child, but that is
their birthright to then make a choice about. Okay, so it feels to me like
things started to change when you
and Harry
decided that you were not going to take the picture that had been a part of the tradition for years. Oprah, there's so much more digging there, man.
You know she's lying to you. We weren't asked to take a picture. That's also part of the spin that was really damaging. I thought...
Can you just tell them the truth?
Can you say to the world, you're not giving him a title?
and we want to keep him safe,
and that if he's not a prince, then it's not part of the tradition.
Just tell people and then they'll understand.
But they wouldn't do that. But you both obviously were aware that that had been a part of the tradition.
And was there a specific reason why
you didn't want to be a part of that tradition.
I think
many people interpreted that as you were...
Both saying, we're going to do things our way. We're going to do things in a different way. That's not it at all. I mean, I think what was really hard...
So picture now that you know what's going on behind the scenes, right?
There was a lot of fear surrounding it. I was very scared of having to offer up our baby
knowing that they weren't going to be kept safe. You certainly must...
Okay, I'm going to stay calm. That's the second lie. I don't want to go into too much. That's the second fucking lie.
You're supposed to do, you're supposed to take a picture, you and you, the prince, the baby, outside the hospital. You're saying you won't do that. You're saying that's not because you're a stubborn bitch. You're saying that's because you want to keep the baby safe.
Because they're going to recognize the baby in 15 years, are they?
Can you recognize someone 15 years after? Because all babies look the fuck insane.
If someone's trying to assassinate the royal baby, they're going to try and assassinate the royal baby, not based on looks, based on where he is and who he's with.
They're not going to bust in. They're not going to break in. Imagine someone breaking in to Harry's.
and Megan's bedroom in the middle of the night.
Harry hides under the bed, starts crying his eyes out.
Megan stands there like, who are you? Shut up, bitch. I'm here to assassinate the baby.
Goes over to the baby and goes...
Does that look like the baby in the newspaper?
Nah, it's not him.
This must be some other baby. There's some other baby in the Buckingham Palace.
with Harry and Meghan.
What the fuck? What are you talking about?
But this is the thing that my bullshit detector is flawless.
People let this kind of bullshit slide. That doesn't make sense. You're not protecting a baby by not allowing them to take a picture of a baby blanket.
You never see the baby's face. It's you with a blanket. I recognize that blanket. Kill that baby. Shut up.
Liar!
I think many people interpreted that as you were
both saying we're gonna do things our way.
Huh?
Who is having that conversation?
with you.
with Harry about it and have your own suspicions as a title
and we want to keep him safe,
and that if he's not a prince, then it's not part of the tradition.
Just tell people and then they'll understand.
But they wouldn't do that. But you both obviously were aware that that had been a part of the tradition.
And was there a specific reason why
you didn't want to be a part of that tradition.
I think
many people interpreted that as you were
both saying we're going to do things our way, or we're going to do things in a different way. That's not it at all. I mean, I think what was really hard
So picture now that you know what's going on behind the scenes, right?
I'm not being insensitive here. Now you know what was going on behind the scenes.
Not really. I mean, what has she said that's so devastating? What's been going on behind the scenes?
You've run your mouth.
People genuinely dislike you.
the population and the royal family.
What's been going on behind the scenes? Okay, you had to stay in your house because you're a disagreeable bitch and every time you see it in public you say something wrong.
you didn't enjoy your holidays,
Okay.
What's been going on behind the scenes? I mean, she's trying to make you victimize herself, right? Now you understand what was happening to me.
No.
I'm sorry. Stop there, Megan. I do not understand what's been happening to you.
Please repeat to me, tell me why your life was so terrible to the point where you thought your child does not should not be involved with the royal family.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
Nobody gets it.
That's why everyone hates you, Megan. That's why nobody likes you, Megan. - There was a lot of fear surrounding it. I was very scared of having to offer up our baby. - Oh.
Knowing that they weren't going to be kept safe. Hmm. You certainly must have had some conversations with Harry about it and have your own suspicions as to why.
They didn't want to make--
Archie.
a prince.
What are those thoughts?
Why do you think that is?
There's the setup.
Set up for the race car.
Think it's because of his race?
I've been in this game too long, man.
And I know that's a loaded question, but...
but I can give you an honest answer.
Thank you.
in those months when I was pregnant,
all around this same time.
So we have in tandem the conversation of, he won't be given security,
It's not gonna be given a title.
and also
concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born. Bullshit!
Bullshit. Do you know why I know that's bullshit?
Megan, because you are not black, Megan.
You are not black. You're barely brown. I would consider you looking Spanish, Mediterranean, maybe, at push.
That motherfucker's white as snow. That's gonna be a white baby.
Anyone who understands genetics knows it's going to be a white baby. You have to be a fool to be sitting there going...
"Ooh, you see Megan, this baby's gonna come out dark as night." What the fuck you talking about?
No one on earth thought that! No one on earth would look at Prince Harry's pasty ass!
This chick with the tiniest smidgen of melanin and say, that's going to be a black baby.
Nobody, nobody thought that. That's gonna be a white baby. I've never seen this baby, Archie.
I'm about to Google up this baby.
Maybe Google's about to prove me wrong. I've never seen this baby in my life. Archie.
Royal Archie Harrison Windsor, this is him.
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ.
Is that a black baby to you?
How black is that baby?
I've seen snowstorms darker than this.
That's a white baby. We all knew it was going to be a white baby.
Maybe you were concerned, Megan, because you were still dicking one of the NBA stars on the slide.
Maybe it was that one.
That was a white baby and everyone knew it was going to be white. Shut up. No one in the royal family is sitting around going, ooh, Prince Harry, he's going to have black kids.
Thank you.
You're a liar!
You're a liar!
And you're just coming out with the most provocative shit you can now because the only time you get let off...
The only fucking slack you're caught for your lives is when you mention race.
So you're going to stick to it. Race, race, race. They said my baby will be black. Nobody said that.
Shut up
You're just poking. This is with George Floyd and the protests and Trump and all this stuff. This is the number one subject right now. If you can poke that subject, you can get out of jail free. So get out of jail free card.
If I was black and I had suffered at the hands of genuine racism, I would be furious at Megan.
Who are you to use our genuine struggle
as a princess of the royal family to pretend your life's been hard.
That is insulting.
Any black person who sees this should be mad.
But because we talked about narratives in the media, the narratives she complained about, the narratives in the media say that as soon as racism is involved, you're an innocent victim, right? So black people are going to watch this and go, yeah, and black people are going to stick up for her.
Well, that's dumb. If you're black and you're not a moron, you should be very offended by what's happening in front of you right now.
'Cause she's lying and she's using the pain of genuine racism, which does exist somewhere in the world,
To pretend her life as a member of the royal family has been difficult with her white baby?
Season my chicken, bitch. You're a fucking liar.
Thank you.
Thank you.
What? Oprah. Oh my God. They didn't say that, Oprah. And who is having that conversation? Who? Yeah, who? I don't want to say names. It's you. I don't want to say names.
Who?
Who, Megan, say a name? What?
So, um,
There is a conversation. Hold up. Hold up. There's several conversations. There's a conversation with you.
with Harry.
about
how dark your baby is going to be?
potentially and what that would mean or look like.
Who? Who said that? And you're not going to tell me who had the conversation?
I think that would be very damaging to them.
Oops!
Stupid bitch. Stupid bitch! Shut up!
What's stupid about all of this? Let's imagine that conversation took place, right? Let's imagine she's saying there was a conversation about the skin color of the baby.
Let's imagine in a fantasy world it took place.
I'm gonna imagine it was
Okay.
Let's imagine Kate walked in and said, you know what? Oh, you have such lovely dark hair and he has ginger hair. I wonder if he'll have dark hair or ginger hair.
fairly innocent
Until you add the racism card in. She's concerned that our baby will look dark.
Self-victimization is what narcissists do because she's a narcissist.
It could have been something as innocent as that.
I mean, I don't know if they sat her down at the round table in front of fucking King Arthur and the rest of the fuckers and said, you better not have no black babies, Megan.
No black babies, Megan. Harry.
I know you got a big black ding dong.
Don't be making no black babies.
Fucking liar. Shut up. Even if the conversation took place, which it did not, it was certainly innocent.
She's playing the race card. She's played every card she can. I'm the victim.
They sent me to South Africa on holiday.
*laughs*
I had to take pictures in South Africa.
Stupid. Season my chicken, bitch. Megan, when I'm done fucking you, you are seasoning my chicken. I'm gonna finish with you.
I'll give you a brown baby. You want a black baby. You want the royals to be pissed. I'll give you something brown.
But first you're gonna cook me some fucking chicken.
bitch. Okay.
- I think it's a good thing.
So how does one have that meaning? That was relayed to me from Harry. Those were conversations that
family had with him.
And I think, um,
Whoa.
it was really hard to be able to see those as compartmentalized conversations. - Because they were concerned that if you were to
Brown.
that that would be a problem? Are you saying that?
I wasn't able to follow up with why, but that, if that's the assumption you're making, I think that feels like a pretty safe one.
which was really hard to understand, right, especially when...
Look, the Commonwealth is a huge part of
the monarchy and
I lived in Canada, which is a commonwealth country, for seven years. But it wasn't until Harry and I were together that we started to...
I would say 60, 70% of which is people of color, right? And growing up as a woman of color, as a little girl of color,
I know how-- Megan!
You are white.
Nobody is going to see you in Harlem and go, "Yeah, sister."
Nobody, you are as white as snow, shut up.
This is annoying me. I don't even play the race card and I'm blacker than her. The black in me is pissed.
There's people out there dealing with racism. If you're watching this, please.
If you're of any person of color and you've ever experienced any kind of racism, stop sticking up for this bitch saying the royal family were racist against her. No! She's using your pain as an excuse.
She's a liar.
She is white. Look at this. Look at her face.
Please put a picture of her face. She's fucking white.
Why is this a revelation for me? Why has no one come along and said, Meggie?
Shut up, you ain't black.
Un-fucking-believable.
Unbelievable. You are white.
and you're giving birth to white babies.