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I know how you want to see someone who looks like you in certain positions. Obviously. Even Archie, like we read these books and now he's been, there's one line and one that goes,
If you can see it, you can be it.
And he goes, you can bear it.
And I think about that so often, especially in the context of
these young girls, but even grown women and men who
when I would meet them in our time in the Commonwealth, how much it meant to them
to be able to see someone who looks like them.
You do not look like those African chicks you were just dancing with, Megan. You really don't.
I don't want to keep harping on, it's getting a bit boring now.
Do you look in the mirror and see yourself looking like them African chicks? We can do a side-by-side. It's just crazy.
This bitch has just lost her fucking mind.
in this position, and I could never understand how it wouldn't be seen as
an added benefit.
You're not black. And a reflection of the world. You're not black. Today.
at all times, but especially right now... You're not black. ...to go, "How inclusive is that, that you can see someone who looks like you in this..." You're not black. ...much less one who's born into it. You're not black. What was actually going on? Fuck you. Almost unsurvivable?
Sounds like there was a breaking point. Where's the cup now? I want to see Harry.
I want to hear what the cuck has to say.
We've heard enough from fucking Queen Latifah. Let's see the fucking...
Let's get Harry on board. That's who he has to say. When Meghan joined the royal family in 2018, she became the target of unrelenting, pervasive attacks.
Racist abuse online aimed at Meghan Markle. They were undeniable.
racist.
overtones
It stands apart from the kind of coverage we've seen of any other royal.
There was constant criticism, blatant sexist, racist remarks by British tabloids and internet trolls.
We have seen.
seeing the racism talks that play out in real time. Referring to her as straight out of Compton,
The Daily Onslaught.
Straight out of Compton.
Straight out of Compton. Beautiful.
But you know what? This is the thing, though. She's going to sit and go, everyone's racist to me. Well, if you're going to play the race card, people are going to be racist, right? If you're going to start calling yourself black, people will make fun of you for it.
If you didn't call yourself black, no one would have called you black, Megan. You set that shit up.
by saying, "I'm a person of color." So they say, "Oh, a person of color, "that's why you run your mouth." And they start getting racist, saying that black people run their mouths, whatever.
You set that up.
The vitriol and condemnation from the UK press became overwhelming and in Megan's words almost unsurvivable.
track.
You said,
in a podcast that it became almost unsurvivable.
And that struck me because it sounds like
you were in some kind of mental trouble what was actually going on
almost unsurvivable.
sounds like there was a breaking point
Yeah, there was.
I just didn't see a solution.
I would sit up at night and I was just like, I don't understand how all of this is being churned out. And again, I wasn't seeing it, but it's almost worse when you feel it through the expression of,
my mom or my friends or them calling me crying just like Meg.
They're not protecting you.
And I realized that
It was all...
happening just because I was breathing.
- Oh.
And
I'm sure it's your breathing that really upset them, Megan. I'm sure it's nothing to do with your personality or your character or your complete disrespect for tradition. I'm sure it's the fact that you use oxygen, the fact that you inhale oxygen and you need it.
to live is the reason they were very upset. I don't think any other member of the royal family breathes, do they?
No, it's just her.
That's why she's yodling out. It's because she was breathing.
If she would have just stopped breathing, would have been fine.
Shut up.
Look, I was really ashamed to say it at the time.
and ashamed to have to admit it to Harry especially.
um
because I know how much loss he suffered.
But I knew that if I didn't,
Say it.
that I would do it. And I just didn't...
Do what? She said she didn't kill herself? Is that the new get out of jail card? Because she's a victim, right? There were races against me and I was going to kill myself. But it's hard to yell at someone who just admitted I was almost suicidal. So now it's very hard to give her pervasive...
difficult questions.
It's very hard for Oprah to sit there and say, well, you were being a baby. If you say, well, I was going to kill myself. Now you have to be like, oh.
Poor baby.
Oh, South Africa.
holiday
I just don't want to be alive anymore.
Oh, poor Megan. She was a princess and she didn't want to be alive anymore.
That's not arrogant and narcissistic. That's not self-centered at all. No, poor Megan.
I feel terrible.
How do you sleep at night?
- Don't you feel bad for what's happened to Meghan? I feel terrible for what's happened to Meghan. I mean, think of all the things that's happened to her. She married into the royal family, she ran her mouth, nobody liked her.
And now she's fucking on Oprah, living in L.A. as a millionaire.
Unbelievable, poor Megan, she has chickens.
Poor Megan has to go and deal with the chickens. She's got a black baby.
Baby's black, dark as night.
Unbelievable. - Level class, breathing. - Yep, she's breathing. She has to breathe.
She has to breathe all day, every day. She breathes at night. Even when she was asleep, she has to breathe.
Poor Megan.
- Poor Megan. - It's real.
and frightening.
Constant thought.
And I remember
I remember how he just cradled me and I was
-
I went to the institution.
And I said that I needed to go somewhere to get help. So that I've never felt this way before and I need to go somewhere
And I was told that I couldn't, that it wouldn't be good for the institution.
.
You join the royal family.
You acted inappropriately.
Nobody liked you.
You then said to the War family, I need to go to a psych ward.
They obviously said, "Well, that's gonna look bad in the royal family, isn't it? You spoiled bitch. Because your life's fine. You don't need a psych ward."
They wouldn't let me go get the help I needed because I was suicidal because I had to breathe.
Thank you.
and I called
So the institution is never a person or is it a series of people? No, it's a person. It's a person. It's several people, but I went to one of the most senior people just to get help.
And that, you know, I share this because
There are so many people who
are afraid to voice that they need help. Yeah, there's so many people who are afraid to voice. There's so many people who are princesses.
for the Britt Schroyle family.
who are afraid to voice all the help they need.
That happens, I mean, that must have happened to you. How many times have it happened to you?
At least five times. Yeah, it happens to me every week.
It's hard.
I get it. I get it, Megan. She's so compassionate to think of other people in her deep, you know, when she's deep down, desperate, you know,
the absolute bottom, in the darkest of the dark, she's considering suicide, and all she's thinking of all those other princesses,
who had to go to South Africa.
She's a really kind, compassionate person.
The image she's portraying here is of pure compassion and selflessness.
Mm-hmm.
But I knew that if I didn't,
Say it.
that I would do it. And I just didn't,
I just didn't want to be alive anymore.
And that was a very,
clear
and real.
and frightening
constant thought.
And I remember...
I remember how he just
cradled me and I was
-
I went to the institution.
and I said that I needed to go somewhere to get help.
I said that I've never felt this way before, and I need to go somewhere.
and I was told that I couldn't, that it wouldn't be good for the institution.
And I called...
So the institution is never a person or is it a series of people? No, it's a person. It's a person. It's several people. But I went to one of the most senior people just to to get help.
And that, you know, I share this because
There are so many people who
are afraid to voice that they need help. And I know personally how hard it is to not just voice it, but when you voice it, to be told no.
And so I went to human resources,
And I said, I just really,
I need help because in my old job there was a union and they would protect me and I remember this conversation like it was yesterday because I
They said...
my heart goes out to you because I see
how bad it is, but there's nothing we can do to protect you because you're not a paid employee of the institution.
- Hmm.
This wasn't a choice.
This was emails and begging for help, saying very specifically,
I am concerned for my mental welfare.
people going oh yes yes it's disproportionately terrible what we see out there to anyone else but
nothing was ever done.
So we had to find a solution.
Wow.
I don't want to be alive anymore. That's
that
I thought it would have solved everything for everyone, right? So were you...
It would have solved everything for everyone if I just killed myself.
I'm so selfless.
I'm so selfless, I only think about others. I don't value myself at all, I value others. I mean, I won't bend my knee to meet the queen without an issue.
but I'm still a very selfless person. I won't bend my knee the first time I meet the queen, but I'll kill myself if you want.
Shut up.
thinking of harming yourself? Were you having suicidal thoughts?
Yes.
This was very, very clear.
Wow.
very clear and very scary and you know I didn't know who to even
turn to in that. And one of the people that I reached out to who's continued to be a friend and confidant was
one of
my husband's mom's best friends, one of Diana's best friends,
because it's like who else could understand
What's
what it's actually like on the inside.
Did you ever think about
going to a hospital or is that possible that you can check yourself in someplace? No, that's what I was asking to do. Yeah.
"You can't just do that." I couldn't, you know,
call an Uber
to the palace. - Yeah. - You couldn't just go. You couldn't...
I mean, you have to understand as well, it's when I joined that family,
That was the last time until we came here
that I saw my passport, my driver's license, my keys.
All that.
gets turned over. I didn't see any of that anymore. Well, the way you're describing this, it's like you
were trapped and couldn't get
help, even though
You're on the verge of suicide. That's what you are describing. That's what I'm hearing. Yes.
And that would be an accurate interpretation.
Yes. That's the truth. That's the truth. You know, and if you think about
It was...
one of the things that
it still haunts me is this photograph that
someone had sent me
we had to go to an official event.
We had to go to this event.
at the Royal Albert Hall.
- Thank you.
And a friend said, "I know you don't look at pictures, but oh my God, you guys look so great." And sent it to me and I zoomed in and what I saw was the truth of what that moment was. Because right before we had to leave for that,
I had just had that conversation with Harry
that morning, and it was the next day that I talked to the institution. JUDY WOODRUFF: You had the conversation, "I don't want to be alive anymore"?
Oof.
No, and it was...
It wasn't even, I don't-- - Jokes aside, the self victimization here, it's off the charts.
It's off the charts. Is she expecting, is she so narcissistic that she expects by telling people,
that as the princess of the royal family, after running her mouth, a few bad things were said about her in the newspapers, and she wanted to kill herself, and we're supposed to feel sorry for her?
Does she think people watch this and they feel sorry for her?
Megan, do you think people feel sorry for you?
Is that what you think is happening in this exchange? That people are gonna be like, wow.
Poor Megan. Does she actually believe that's what she's doing? Does she think she's that conniving that she's got the public going...
Damn.
Poor Megan.
You want to it was like
these are the thoughts that I'm having in the middle of the night that are very clear. Clarification. And I'm scared because this is very real. This isn't some abstract idea. This is
methodical,
and this is not who I am,
But we had to go to this event and I remember him saying, I don't think you can go. And I said, I can't be left alone.
because you were afraid of what you might do to yourself?
And we went
and that's so sorry to hear that and that picture if you zoom in what i see
is how tightly his knuckles are gripped around mine. You can see the whites of our knuckles because we are-- - Because you're both white.
That's why.
smiling and doing our job.
but we're both just trying to hold on.
And every time that those lights went down in that royal box...
I was just weeping.
And he was gripping my hand and then it was...
Okay, and our mission's coming.
The lights are about to come on.
Everyone's looking at us again, and you have to just be on again. Yeah
Um...
And that's, I think, so important for people to remember is you have no idea what's going on for someone behind closed doors. You have no idea...
Thank you.
Even the people that
smile the biggest smiles and shine the brightest lights.
it seems.
to have compassion for what's actually
potentially going on. - Yup.
Side note for everyone watching my channel, she's right.
Some of you have no idea what's going on. I know I come on Tate's speech, I look like this arrogant, happy dude with millions of dollars. I'm just fucking all this pussy, running around in supercars, etc.
I know my life looks perfect, but sometimes you don't have any idea what's really going on.
deep inside. You know, sometimes deep in the middle of the night I wake up,
There's a bitch here, there's a bitch here.
And I look in the mirror and I think, Andrew,
Well, that's fantastic. I ain't gonna lie. Well, the public is looking at you and... No, but, okay, I made a joke of it, but...
I don't like this. I don't want to diverge because I've already spoken about suicide and mental health a lot on my channel. I don't want to diverge into another subject.
But the idea that mental health is something that you can't help and that it's just something that happens to you and you have to just suffer with it, I don't believe.
You're living a privileged life. It's impossible to deny that as a princess, you are living a privileged life. You are a princess of the British Royal Family. Your life is privileged. For you to still pretend your life is difficult requires self-centeredness.
It requires narcissism.
No intelligent...
normal human
as the princess of the royal family could sit and go, "Okay, my life's basically perfect. "I'm looked after in every way."
The Sun newspaper says something bad on page 16, but no one reads that anyway.
Who's gonna actually pretend their life is difficult in that position, besides someone who is so self-centered and so narcissistic,
that the idea of their own shortcomings being pointed out to them
is devastating to them.
That's just narcissism. You had no reason to be sad.
You're a princess. And you're trying to tell everyone you had this amazing reason to be sad. I still haven't heard it.
You went to South Africa, you had to smile. You went to the Royal Albert Howell,
"The Royal Albert Hall," and you had to smile.
.
When the lights are off, you didn't smile. When the lights are on, you had to smile. Shit.
Damn.
Let me assure all of my viewers
I'm as happy as I come across. I'm fucking fine.
I'm fine.
Because I'm not such a narcissistic, self-centered dweeb. Not going to be like, oh, someone on YouTube said something bad about me. I'm sure lots of people insult me all the time. I don't watch it. I don't care.
This person is just a narcissist.
She is a narcissist.
to think that you earlier in the day
had
said to Harry that he didn't want to be alive anymore. - Yeah, and just hours before, just sitting on the steps in our cottage,
Oh.
just sitting there and
and then going, "Okay, well, go upstairs and
put your makeup bag in your sink and try to pull yourself together. Well nobody should have to go through that. And you know Harry and I are working on this mental health series for Apple. And we, yeah, so we, we, we hear a lot of these stories.
Nobody should have to go through that. It takes so much courage to admit that you need help.
It takes so much courage to voice that.
She's smart, Megan. Before this interview, she said, as long as I touch on mental health, as long as I say how brave I was, as long as I touch on the race card, as long as I touch on certain key subjects, they will have to view me as a victim.
That was her plan. No matter what she asks me, as long as I say how brave I was and how hard I was trying because of my mental health and the racism from the outside and my mental health and the racism, it's going to be very, very hard to pin me down and tell the truth of my story, which is I'm a self-centered, entitled brat.
but I'm a professional.
and I see through all of it.
And I hope all of the people watching this can also see through all of it.
with my brilliant
11 out of 10 narration and perceptions
I'm perspicacious.
"I see what you're trying to do, Meghan Markle. You had no reason to be suicidal on any level.
Your sob story.
literally consists of smiling in South Africa
and smiling the royal ombar hall, and being forced to breathe.
That is your sob story.
It's a joke.
It's a joke. For the same reason, black people should be offended by her attempt at the race card. People who have gone through genuine struggle should be offended at her attempt at the mental health card.
There are people out there who have lost their entire families in car crashes.
their wife and all their children at once,
and they were dealing with the thoughts of suicide.
and you're gonna compare,
Being a princess and being asked to perform the odd royal duty to a month in which you go to a prestigious event and smile and do not come across like an entitled self-centered cunt.
You're going to pretend that experience is the same as someone losing their entire family?
And you want to talk about mental health? And you expect people to feel sorry for you?
Unbelievable!
It's disgusting. This isn't even a joke.
What she's doing here is manipulative, but it's not harmlessly manipulative.
This is harmful.
Anyone who's had genuine mental struggle should be disgusted by what they're seeing.
Anyone who's dealt with genuine racism should be disgusted by what they're seeing.
She's a disgusting person.
I don't want to put more on my husband's shoulders. He's carrying the weight of the world. I don't want to bring that to him. I bring solutions.
Mm-hmm.
to admit that you need help to admit how dark of a place you're in.
Well, how do you feel about the palace hearing you speak?
your truth today. Are you afraid of a backlash or a fair reaction?
I've got a plate of bacon here.
Why? Because...
I'm rich, rich, right?
I remember being young thinking, when I'm old and I'm rich, I'm just going to live on bacon. Because every time I want bacon, I get two little pieces of bacon and a bunch of other crap on the plate.
Now I eat like 10 packs of bacon a day.
because I'm a baller.
Thank you.
I mean, I think...
I'm not going to live my life in fear.
You know, I think so much of it is
said with an understanding of
Just truth. - Mm-hmm. - But I-- - I'm just telling the truth.
So am I. I'm sitting here eating bacon, calling you a hoe.
I'm just telling the truth.
Meghan Markle.
You know what the thing about Megan is, she's the kind of girl who loves being called a hoe.
I'm not a hoe. I'm a feminist. I'm not a hoe. I stand up for women's rights. Put her on her knees. Put a dick in her mouth and say, you're a fucking slut.
spit all over her face when she sucks her cock. I am a slut, yeah. She fucking loves it. She fucking loves it. I know a hoe when I see one.
She'll love it when I call her a hoe. - I think to answer your question,
Thank you.
Bacon power. I don't know how they could expect that after all of this time...
we would still just be silent if there is an active role
that the firm is playing
in perpetuating
false hints about us.
That at a certain point, you guys, someone just tell the truth.
and if that comes with risk of losing things, I mean, I've,
I've lost.
there's a lot that's been lost already.
And I grieve a lot. I mean, I've lost my father. I lost a baby.
It nearly lost my name. I mean, there's the loss of like...
I nearly lost my name.
Is that when they told her she had to change her last name? She want to change her last name? You're marrying into the royal family, you don't want to change your last name? Every woman should take a man's last name anyway. This is my personal view. Why else you marrying a guy?
You should take his last name.
If you're like, well, I want to keep my last name, then don't marry me.
And now,
You think when you're marrying into the most prestigious royal family on the planet,
You shouldn't have to give up your last name.
and you think that makes you look like a strong, entitled woman,
and not a self-entitled cunt.
then you have a strange perception of the world.
Because if you had any honor, any dignity,
Any degree of humbleness as an individual, you'd say, I'm married to a royal family, I must take the name.
I'm a woman anyway.
I nearly gave up my name.
You look like a dickhead, Megan. You look like an idiot. Megan, you look like an idiot.
Identity.
But I'm still standing. And my... - Very brave. - For people in the takeaway from this is to...
know that there's another side.
Mm-hmm.
to know that
life is worth living. Okay.
- Yeah!
I hope from the end of this interview, they realize life's worth living.
I've never been suicidal before in my life, but if this continues, how far are we?
Oh my god.
36 more minutes of this bitch. I'm so glad you see that now. I
We are going to take a break, y'all, and Harry's going to join us. We'll be right back with Harry.
She really thinks she did good.
Did you blindside the Queen?
you
We'll see what Harry has to say.
Here's where it can get really interesting. The dynamic between Meghan and Harry is going to be very interesting.
So the prince has arrived.
Now,
Princes of old.
would ride into battle on the top.
Might and Steens.
and behead their enemies.
Underneath the blazing sun.
This pussy all
He's sitting next to his wife, and let's see if he has the balls to even speak up.
Hi, hello, thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. You've been watching on the side. Yes, I saw it. Yes. I want to say first of all, let's say
Congratulations! Thank you. For the new addition to your family.
Megan said she wanted to wait until you were here.
to tell us, is it a boy?
Or is it a girl?
You can tell it? No.
It's a go.
*crickets* Oh yeah. You could have a duck.
Thank you.
I don't want to do the body language breakdown, but please rewind five seconds and look at
Harry's blood language. He's just told us all we need to know about
Prince Harry right there.
Congratulations! - Thank you. - For the new addition to your family.
Megan said she wanted to wait until you were here to tell us, is it a boy?
Or is it a girl?
You can tell her. No, I can't for it. No, no.
Let's go.
- - Oh, my God. You could have had a daughter. Wow. - That's a girl. - When you realized that and saw it on the ultrasound, what... - What was wrong? - First stop.
Amazing.
just
Grateful life.
Any, to have any child, any one or any two would have been amazing, but to have
A boy and then a girl?
And what more can you ask for?
This is the first time I've ever actually seen or heard Prince Harry speak. I understand he was supposedly in the military and was a tough guy and stuff, but...
We all knew that was a lie, right? Like, Prince Harry, he was in Afghanistan. Yeah, I'm sure Prince Harry was on the front lines.
I'm sure they sent him out clearing landmines. It wasn't like just a photo op somewhere behind the back in the base. Like, he didn't do anything for real, obviously. He's a member of the royal family, as he shouldn't.
But the idea that he was a military man, he didn't do shit.
He was a photo op, just like his photo op in South Africa. It's not a big deal. So this is my actual first time analyzing Harry as an individual. I've never seen him speak. I've never heard him speak.
His little body language thing earlier about the girl.
I don't want to give the very basic body language cues. A lot of people are already talking about how her hand is above his...
This is basic body language stuff. I don't want to...
patronize you individuals. You're watching Tate's speech. We go deeper than the other losers. Let them all talk about, "His hand is in her hand is below." We're talking about,
genuine manipulation tactics. But yeah, from what I've seen so far, he lives in the shadow of
his brother,
and the shadow of the royal family. He doesn't seem like a particularly confident, outspoken, loud individual. He does seem like he's quite small and shallow.
And I also think, and we'll wrap up on this at the end, but his older brother has a large part to play in this because his older brother should have whooped his ass by now.
His older brother should have challenged him to a joust.
Old school, two horses jousting.
I'm tired of you being a pussy ass prince. We're going to fix this.
and defend the honor of the realm. If I was your older brother, if Tristan was playing this shit, I would've had to beat his ass. I would've come up to him and said, Tristan, look,
You love this bitch, but she's out of control. That's my wife. Cool.
Because we're going to do something about this. Because this is the Tate name you're talking about. This is the Tate name. We're not talking about the royal family.
We're gonna have to do something. 'Cause I'm not letting this happen on my watch. I'm the big brother.
So William's been a bit of a pussy as well, because William could have easily choused this motherfucker into next week and woke his ass up.
But now we've got our family. We've got the four of us and our two dogs and...
Done. Done.
to visit
- Done. - Two is it. - Two is it. - Two is it. - And when's the baby due?
It's summertime.
- This summertime. - Yeah.
So,
You all have been living in sunny California now for
Uh, since March. Since March. Okay. Yeah.
In late 2019, Prince Harry and Meghan left the UK and moved to Canada. The couple says they chose Canada, a Commonwealth of Britain,
with the intention of continuing to serve the Queen.
After their move, Harry and Meghan say security normally provides...
I'm stopping here because at this particular point, there's an extremely white baby on the screen. ...provided by the royal family was cut off. By March 2020, just days before the COVID lockdown began,
Meghan, Harry and Archie relocated to Los Angeles, where media mogul Tyler Perry offered them his home as a temporary refuge. He also provided security.
Three months later, they bought their own home and settled in the Santa Barbara area.
Last spring, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex created their own foundation and media content company called Archwell.
And so you stayed at Tyler Perry's house for several months. Three months ago. Yeah, because we didn't have a plan. We needed...
a house and he offered his security as well, so it gave us breathing room to try to figure out what we were going to do. The biggest concern was that while we were in Canada in someone else's house,
I then got told
short notice that security was going to be removed.
by this point
courtesy of the Daily Mail, the world knew our exact location.
So suddenly it dawned on me, hang on a second, the borders could be closed, we're gonna have our security removed,
who knows how long lockdown's gonna be,
The world knows where we are.
It's not.
Are you such a pussy, Prince Harry, that during lockdown,
You can't travel.
You're Prince Harry.
During lockdown, I went to Sweden and Belarus and England and Romania and back. I went to America. I went all over the world by just talking shit at airports and refusing to let them send me home. I went everywhere I wanted.
"You're Prince Harry, you're telling me you couldn't move. "Also, why are you staying in people's houses? "We stayed in someone's house, "you just said someone else's house. "They stayed in someone's house in Canada,
Someone's house in LA now.
You must have some money, bro. Why are you staying in people's houses? That's a weird dynamic.
"Hello, I'm the Prince of England. Can we stay in your house?" Do you think that's a bit weird?
It's a bit weird from a personality perspective. You're the Prince of England. You have no honor, no pride.
I'll find a place for us.
Like how hard would it be really?
with millions and millions and millions.
because you have all the taxpayer money behind you. I don't know, it just seems very strange to me. There's something strange about that dynamic.
This is a personal, this is a observation on Harry. If I was with my pregnant wife and my child, I would not be rolling up to random people's houses begging for refuge because I'm too proud.
He's not, he obviously doesn't feel that pride.
which says a lot about him as an individual, which also explains why his woman has got him so under the thumb, right?
Thank you.
It's not safe. It's not secure.
We probably need to get out of here. So what security did you have at the time that was going to be removed? We had our UK security.
So you got word from
Overseas.
that were taking away your security. Why were they doing that?
- -
their justification is a change in status.
Um...
Their justification is we left the royal family, so we don't get royal family protection.
No shit.
We wanted to leave the royal family, but we wanted everything the royal family gave us.
I want to quit my job, but I still want wages.
- Of which I push back and say, well, is there a change of threat or risk?
After many weeks of waiting, eventually I got
the confirmation that no, the risk and threat hasn't changed.
but due to our change of status
which we would no longer be an official working members of the royal family,
Now obviously what we proposed was
sort of part-time or at least as much as we can do without being fully consumed because of, I think, what most of you guys have covered already. We actually didn't talk about that. It's been so spun in the wrong direction as though
We quit. We walked away.
all the conversations of the two years before we finally announced it
In January 2020, Prince Harry and Meghan announced they would step back as senior members of the royal family.
swiftness with which they've taken this decision only 18 months after they got married.
has taken everyone by surprise from the Queen all the way down.
The bombshell news sparked a worldwide media frenzy
dubbed Megxit by the British press.
Many reporters and viral posts blamed Megan for the decision.
Megan knew what she was signing up for. Oh, she's being a visitor.
Megan knew what she was signing up for, correct? Right. Harry, how are the discussions going on your future?
In an official statement, Queen Elizabeth said,
Although we would have preferred them to remain full-time working members of the royal family, we respect and understand their wish to live a more independent life as a family.
while remaining a valued part of my family.
- Okay, let me ask the question. - Yeah. - So over a year ago, you shocked the world. You announced that you were stepping back as senior members of the royal family. And then the media reported that you had
blindsided the Queen, your grandmother,
So,
here's a time to set the record straight. What was the tipping point
that made you decide you had to leave.
Yeah, I was desperate. I went to all the places
which I thought I should go to to ask for help.
We both did.
separately and together.
So you left
because you were asking for help
and couldn't get it?
basically.
But we never left.
We never left the family and we only wanted to have the same type of role that exists, right? There's senior members of the family and then there are non-senior members. As we said specifically, we're stepping back from senior roles to be just like...
I mean, I can think of so many right now who are all their royal highnesses, prince or princess, duke or duchess who earn a living.
live on palace grounds,
"can support the queen if and when called upon." So we weren't reinventing the wheel here, we were saying, okay,
"If this isn't working for everyone, we're in a lot of pain. You can't provide us with the help that we need."
we can just take a step back
We can do it in a commonwealth country. We had suggested New Zealand, South Africa. - Take a breath. - Canada.
- And you wanted to take a breath from what specifically? Let's be clear. - From this constant barrage.
My biggest concern was history repeating itself. And I've said that before.
on numerous occasions very publicly.
And what I was seeing was history repeating itself, but more perhaps
or definitely--
far more dangerous because then you add race in
and you add social media in.
So he's talking about history repeating itself in regards to his mother. So he's saying, I don't want anything bad to happen to her, like something bad happened to my mother. History's repeating itself, and then you add in race. Race.
because she's put that in his
or in his mouth.
It's also very interesting from a body language perspective, every time he speaks, she's staring at him intently.
She's looking at him directly.
As in,
Well, not as in, because basically she's in command.
This is my puppy.
The puppy begins to speak. What's the puppy saying?
"Remember what I told you, puppy.
That's right, stick to the stick. Say race. Good, say race. Good.
Good. When he stops speaking,
She turns back to the camera.
Very close eye on Mr. Harry.
Harry cannot speak for himself. She keeps her eye directly on him every single time
He talks.
And that's a sign of command.
I think it's pretty obvious to the world that she's in command of the relationship. In the modern world, in some marriages, women are in command, right?
They never last long, but there are a few.
It's not the way your relationship should work. It's not the dynamic which is healthy, I believe. But there are some. And in this relationship, she is clearly in control.
And you can see that here. Every time he speaks, watch her stare at him.
And when I'm talking about history of being a self, I'm talking about my mother.
when you can see
something happening
in the same kind of way,
anybody would ask for help, ask the system of which you are part of. Especially when you know there's a relationship there that they could
help me.
Share some truth or call the dogs off, whatever you want to call it.
So to receive no help at all and
to be told continuously, this is how it is. This is just how it is.
We've all been through it.
And I think the biggest turning point for me was
and it didn't take very long to actually write at the beginning was
Okay.
This union, us, me, having a girlfriend,
was going to be
a thing.
Of course it was.
but I
I never expected or I never thought. Because she was a mixed race?
No, just the two of us to start with.
thought about the mixed race piece because I thought, well,
Of a city, yeah.
I've spent many years doing the work and doing my own learning.
but my upbringing and the system with which I was brought up in and what I've been exposed to
I wasn't aware of it to start with.
I wasn't aware of racism.
This is white guilt. This is her words.
You don't understand racism, Harry, because you were born in a white family as a royal family member. You don't understand how racist the world is. You don't understand all these people hate me because I have a drop of brown.
You don't understand.
I was doing my own learning, but I didn't understand outside of the system how racist
This is her words in his mouth.
This is what he's been conditioned. This is what he's been told. He's repeating it. As she stares at him,
Say what I told you to say.
Say it right. Don't fuck it up.
Oh my god, it doesn't take very long.
to suddenly become aware of it. Yeah, because you said you really weren't aware of unconscious bias and all that that represents until you met me. Yeah, you know, so as it is to say, it takes living in...
her shoes in this instance
for a day
or those first eight days
to see
where it was going to go.
and how far they were going to take it. And get away with it.
and get away with it and be so blatant about it. That's the bit that shocked me. This is, we're talking about the UK press here, right? And this...
and the UK is my home.
That is where I was brought up.
So,
Yes, I've got my own relationship.
Um.
that goes back a long way with the media.
I asked for calm.
from the British tabloids, once as a boyfriend.
once as a husband
And then once as a father.
So when I asked the question, why did you leave,
The simplest answer is,
Lack of...
Because she told me to.
That's the real answer, because she told me to. Because she said, I'm leaving and you have to leave with me.
That's the real answer.
It's a pool.
and lack of understanding.
So I want clarity.
Every time he talks, she's staring at him.
Say that.
You left because she told you to leave, bro.
And this is what I mean about the lack of honesty. This must be an honest interview, right?
What is the simplest answer as to why you left? Because Meghan wanted to leave and I'm her husband.
Just be a man about it.
Just cut the bullshit.
Megan wanted to leave. She was unhappy. I decided to marry her. I had to make a choice and I made the choice to stick by my wife.
Now you look like a man.
"Oh, lack of support." Liar! She told you to. Liar! The worst thing about this is these manipulators, because they're both manipulative, and these narcissists,
If they actually were semi-likable as people, or if they possessed the skills I possess, they could get all the same points across without looking like complete cunts. You could have told your story.
but not in a way where everyone can mock you. You could have told your story, and I would have sat here and done this Tate speech and fairly said, good point, good point, good point.
I'm telling you how to do it. You should hire me.
Megan, when I'm done fucking you, Harry ain't gonna leave you. He loves getting cucked.
He's going to love it.
Harry, come see me. I'll teach you how to fucking deal with this stuff.
"when I'm done juicing in your wife."
Give me the brown baby you're dreaming of. - I'm not getting away from the UK. - Did you blindside the queen? - No.
I've never blindsided my grandmother. I have too much respect for her.
So where did that story come from?
- Yeah.
I hazard a guess that it probably could have come from within the institution. I remember when you talked to her several times about this over... Two years. Two years, but even the night before, days before, with the statement coming out, I remember that conversation. So, and how do you know she wasn't blindsided? Because the way it was presented through the press is that
suddenly you made this announcement, she didn't know it was coming. No, I, when we were in Canada, I had three conversations with my grandmother and two conversations with my father.
before he stopped taking my calls.
and then said, "Can you put this all in writing what your plan is?"
Your father asked you to put it in writing.
He asked me to put in writing, I put all the specifics in there, even the fact that we were planning on putting the announcement out on the 7th of January.
So you just said that--
Your dad stopped taking your calls. Why did he stop taking your calls?
Because...
Because he doesn't like hearing his son act like a little bitch on the phone.
That's why. Dad, my wife, he's crying and it's hard, dad. My wife had to go to South Africa, dad. And he's just like, bro.
Shut up, man.
Shut the fuck up.
Like, what's my answer to call for? Oh, Harry's ringing again. You're sitting around, right? You're the prince. You're sitting, whatever you are. Fucking chitlin'.
Smoking a fat cigar like I could be sitting there. I'm him. I'm chilling.
sitting there, I'm sweating a cigar, doing whatever I do. I'm with that old girl who looks like a dog. What's her name?
Camilla something.
I'm sitting here. Come on, let's give me a bottle.
I'm sure.
Ring, ring Harry. Fourth time today.
It's like fucking Harry. Fourth time today. Camilla's sucking dick. Is that Harry again?
Thinking he has Harry again. Oh, pick it up, Charles. Pick it up.
Okay.
Thank you.
Harry, hello.
What?
Oh, you had to smile at the camera.
Yes, I've been doing that for...
60 years.
suicidal?
Well, you want to kill yourself.
No, no, Harry, Harry, your baby's not black.
Harry, I'm sorry.
*punch*
And then he rings again! Ding, ding, ding! Harry! You're like, "Oh, fuck off!"
Fuck off! The fuck? What the fuck are I talking to you about?
Idiot. Of course he stopped taking your calls. I wouldn't take your calls either. Moron.
Insult in the family name. No father wants to see if he is your dad. That's a different fucking, that's a different course. I don't want to go down. If he is your dad, he doesn't want to hear you being all,
Bitch on the phone.
That's embarrassing to him. He raised you and you're being a little punk.
Pssst, idiot.
So you just said that...
your dad stopped taking your calls. Why did he stop taking your calls?
Because
I
took matters in... By that point, I took matters into my own hands. It was like, I need to do this for my family.
This is not a surprise to anybody. It's really sad that it's got to this point.
but I've got to do something for my own mental health, for my wife's.
and for Archie's as well, because I could see where this was headed.
I think what we really have got to clear up here is that you, Megan, are the one who manipulated, calculated this Megxit.
To have sat back and not said that for so long, it just feels really... To have been silent... Yeah. All this time. Yeah. In three and a half, four years.
- Or longer actually. - But we were saying, gosh, it must have been years ago, we were sitting in Nottingham, I was sitting in Nottingham Cottage, and The Little Mermaid came on. Now who as an adult really watches The Little Mermaid?
But it came on, I was like, well,
I'm just here all the time, so may as well watch this. And I went, oh my God.
She falls in love with the prince
and because of that she has to lose her voice.
But by the end, she gets her voice back. Gets her voice back.
And this is what happened here. You feel like you got your voice back.
So you're stepping back at it? And in between your legs, it smells like fish.
and you just need to get out. And, you know, you heard Megan share with
us all
the moment that she came to you, had the courage enough to say out loud,
I don't want to live anymore.
And...
You...
- I didn't...
I had no idea what to do. I wasn't prepared for that. I went,
I went to a very dark place as well, but I,
I wanted to be there for her.
- And also we didn't leave right in that moment, right? - It's her voice. Yeah. We didn't... We still... That's almost a year after. So did you tell other people in the family, "I need to get help for her? We need help for her?"
That's just not a conversation that would be had.
What?
I guess I was ashamed of admitting it to them.
- Oh. - And I don't know whether, I don't know whether they've had the same, whether they've had the same feelings or thoughts. I have no idea. It's a very trapping environment.
that a lot of them are stuck in.
You were ashamed of admitting...
that Megan needed help.
Mm-hmm.
Mm -hmm.
and I didn't have anyone to turn to.
um...
You know, we've got some very close friends that have
been with us through this whole process. But for the family, they very much have this mentality of,
this
is just how it is. This is how it's meant to be. You can't change it. The family has a mentality that we're supposed to be royals and act like royals.
And don't cry about it or bitch about it.
And you can't change it. And that's how it has to be.
Does that make them bad people? Considering they are actually members of the royal family. I mean, they're not hobos.
who think we're members of the royal family without crackheads.
They're actually the royal family, and they believe the royal family should act in a particular way.
handle situations in a particular way.
And you're going to try and demonize them for that because you want to come along and be spoiled brats.
You can't change it.
We've all been through it.
We've all been through the pressure. We've all been through being exploited. Yes, but what was different for me...
was the race element.
because
Thank you.
See, this is Megan's get out of jail card, 'cause she's used it over and over again. But when, this is it, right?
We've all been through it. It's been the same for all of us. It's different for me because I'm black.
That's all it is because that's our only reason. We can say, look, they said bad things about all of us. Here's a bad article about me here.
Yeah, but I'm black.
That's the element, right? And she's put it in his brain.
And now he's repeating it because she told him this.
They're doing this to me because I'm a little bit brown.
Alright babe, okay, yeah. There's a race element, there's a race element.
It's not true.
Not only is it not true, but he's regurgitating what he's been told. Prince Harry has yet to come up with an original thought.
He's yet to have come up with a sentence which is original. Everything he said are things his wife have told him to say.
That's why she watches him so closely.
He's your host.
He is repeating what he was told.
by his wife.
who made him stop being a prince.
because now it wasn't just about her.
but it was about what she represents.
And therefore it wasn't just affecting my wife, it was affecting
so many other people as well.
And that was the trigger for me to really engage in those conversations with
senior palace staff and with my family to say,
Guys, this is not going to end well.
And when you say "end well," what did you mean?
for anyone.
is not going to end well.
because the way that I saw it was
There is a way of doing things. We need booze to get through this bullshit, bro. This is garbage.
for this union and the specifics around her race,
there was an opportunity, many opportunities,
for my family,
to show some public support.
- Hmm.
And I guess...
There were many opportunities for my family to show some public support.
For example,
going with her to a Wimbledon game.
inviting her into the royal family, allowing her to marry you at all, giving you a huge, prestigious wedding, which is watched by 2 billion people. I consider that...
fairly supportive from the family.
I mean, Meghan has said herself that the Queen was always nice to her, gave her the blanket, sat next to her.
Despite the fact that she's so black.
So what support did they not give her? What are you even talking about?
You're contradicting yourself.
What he is saying...
doesn't make sense.
- It makes sense, I wanna say this one makes sense, 'cause you're sitting there going, well, it kinda makes,
Things make sense to an amateur.
but they don't make sense to a professional.
What he's saying makes sense in the world of amateurism.
We didn't give you support, da da da. But in the role of a professional,
based on the words that they've told us, based on their own testimony that we have
viewed and watched in this very video,
They were very accepting of her.
any problems they had with her,
race-wise would have been instant, right? They see the color of her skin, they don't like her.
No, they were fine with her until she became a dickhead.
Dickhead isn't a race.
One of the most telling parts, the saddest parts, I guess, was
over 70 members of parliament, female members of parliament
both Conservative and Labour came out
and
called out the
the colonial undertones of articles and headlines written about Meghan
Yet no one from my family ever said anything.
over those three years.
That hurts.
but I also
I'm
acutely aware
of where my family stand and how scared they are.
of the tabloids turning on them.
turning on them for what? They're the royal family.
Yes, but there is this
invisible what's to what's
What's termed or referred to as the invisible contract behind closed doors.
between the institution and the tabloids, the UK tabloids. How so?
Well,
To simplify it, it's a case of if you as a family member
are willing to wine, dine and give full access to these reporters.
then you will get
Better press.
- What do you care about better press if you're royal? - I think everyone needs to have some compassion for them in that situation.
Right.
there is a level of control by fear.
that has existed for generations
But who's controlling whom?
It's the institution.
Fear of what? The Trump, the media pissed on Trump all day every day. He didn't cry his eyes out.
Meghan, "I hate Trump. Trump's bad, baby. Trump is bad."
You helped the negative press against Trump. I thought the press was so destructive you're going to kill yourself.
You're sending negative press Trump's way. He doesn't give a shit.
Do you know why? He's an adult.
And he's not a spoiled brat like both of you.
There's an unwritten contract with the press. If they say something bad about me, I cry.
Sound like a punk, bro.
Thought you went to Afghanistan. Thought you got shot at.
Now you're worried about a fucking tabloid headline? Who even reads that shit?
Unbelievable. This guy's a pussy. He's just a pussy. He could come on and be a man about this.
They kept insulting my wife in the papers.
They insulted her. I understand she's new to the royal family. The way she does things is not standard to protocol. Everyone insulted her all the time. And we made the decision. It's just not worth getting insulted. So we decided to leave.
Boom.
Like a man!
You could say what he's trying to say like a man.
But he's refusing. He goes, "What do I do? There's an unwritten contract." - Like symbiotic. One lives or thrives because the other exists.
That's what you're saying. That's the idea. Well, I mean, I think there's a reason that these tabloids
have
holiday parties.
At the palace, they're hosted by the palace.
the tabloids are. You know, there is a construct that's at play there,
And because from the beginning of our relationship,
they were so attacking and inciting so much
racism really. I mean it changed our the risk level because it went it wasn't just catty gossip it was
bringing out a part of people that was racist in how it was charged. And that changed the threat, that changed the level of death threats, that changed everything.
So tell me this. You said...
a moment ago, it hurts that your family has never acknowledged the role that racism played in here. Do you think she was well-received in the beginning? Yes, far better than I expected.
You know, my grandmother has been amazing throughout.
My father, my brother, Kate, and all the rest of the family, they were really welcoming.
But it really changed after the Australia tour, after our South Pacific tour.
That's when we announced we were pregnant with Archie. That was our first tour. But it was also the first time that the family got to see how incredible she is at the job.
And that brought back memories.
I'm thinking because I watch The Crown, okay? I watch The Crown. Do you all watch The Crown?
I've watched some of it. We've watched some of it. - We've watched some of it. - But there is this... I think it was the fourth season, actually,
where there's an Australian tour. So is that what you're talking about? It brought back memories of that?
the Australian tour where your father and your mother went there and your mother was bedazzling.
So are you saying that there were hints of jealousy?
Look, I...
See, yeah, that's right, Harry. Because you're saying things that you were told to say.
And now you're being pressured on him, right? He's saying what Meghan told him to say. And Oprah's saying...
Clarify that. And now he knows. He knows he's fine. He knows what he's saying is bullshit.
Are you going to double down?
I just wish that
we would all learn from the past.
But to see...
That does not answer the question.
see how
Effortless it was for Megan to come into the family. Okay.
so quickly in Australia and across New Zealand. To see how effortless it was for an actress to wave her hand and smile. Yes, okay.
Vigian Tonga
and just be able to connect with people
in such a, no I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, but it's
I mean...
Why wouldn't everybody love that? Isn't that what you want? You want her to come into the family and...
to, as the Queen said at one point,
the way that Megan had
basically, not her words, but assimilated into the family.
Yeah, I think as we talked about, she was very much welcomed into the family, not just
But? By the world. Okay. So what's the point? I mean, here you have one of the greatest assets to the Commonwealth that...
the family could have ever wished for.
I just can't, I'm kind of going-- - He's not making a point. What's your point? Are they jealous or not?
Even Oprah's like, "What? This is bullshit."
This is bullshit, right? We're in bullshit territory. So we're just listening to the stuttering and the sentences that don't really mean anything. He's just bullshitting his way through this.
You're in Canada because you... You got Oprah doing this.
They got Oprah stressed.
You're stressing Oprah out. She's a billionaire.
You're stressing a billionaire. You're talking some serious bullshit. I had stepped back.
your
firm says you're no longer going to have protection.
So,
Did you ask for that because
Did you want, were you trying to have it both ways? You wanted to step back. Yes. That's what they were trying to do. Keep your foot in.
It's interesting that you talk about it being, you know, have it both ways.
on the security element,
I never thought that I would have my security removed because I was born into this position. Exactly. That's the British taxpayer, my friend.
And I can understand,
I can understand his arrogance there. I couldn't believe my security would be removed because I'm Prince Harry, right? He's had security his whole life. So to him, it's like, wow.
So I get it. There's a level of arrogance that most people would have. I'm Prince Harry. They won't take my security.
what completely changed the whole plan. So you as Prince Harry...
are going to have your security removed. Yeah, and I even wrote letters to his family saying, please, it's very clear the protection of me or Archie is not a priority. I accept that. That is fine. Please keep my husband safe.
I see the death threats, I see the racist propaganda. Please keep him safe. Please don't pull his security and announce to the world when he and we are most vulnerable.
And they said, it's just not possible.
I think what we really have got to clear up here is because one of... He didn't answer the jealousy question.
He got out of it. He bullshitted and Oprah let him off.
Their answer was that they dislike Megan because they're jealous.
at how fantastically she did the extremely difficult task.
of waving her hand and smiling. Personally,
I mean, I wouldn't say she was that great, because she kept fucking breaking down and crying and ended up suicidal. So if you were that good at the job, you would have did it without a fucking mental breakdown.
I wouldn't say you're fantastic at smiling and waving.
if it leads to a fucking mental breakdown.
And you can't do it without literally needing a psych ward.
I'd actually, Megan, give you a zero out of 10. I'd say you're terrible. But their narrative is she was so amazing at it.
So amazing.
that everyone was jealous, and then when Oprah said, "Confirm this,"
I just wish in the past people would learn. He starts talking garbage because he knows if he doubles down on that point.
He's gonna get destroyed, he's gonna get roasted. When you bullshit,
This is a lesson for you. When you bullshit and when you lie, you don't like to make firm, firm points because you're giving points of attack, right? If you make a firm statement, it can be firmly debunked.
But when you make half statements, it's hard to debunk them. I didn't say that. I said that in context of this.
Oh, I meant it like this. This is why they, this is what bullshitters do. Bullshitters don't come along.
and give a firm statement. Andrew, where were you? I was in McDonald's at 6.05 p.m.,
That's a lie.
No, you weren't. I know you weren't. You're a liar. Andrew, where were you? I was around. I was near McDonald's and I was around.
near McDonald's around.
WHEN
I was in McDonald's. I didn't see you. Yeah, I was there. I was around. I just came in and out.
It's got bullshit in.
That's why this motherfucker ain't making a firm point because he's lying.
But now he moved on because Oprah is weak.
That's the reason she got the interview, right?
They ain't gonna put a real interview here.
Because they ain't going to put a real G here.
The real G here is going to get ripped apart.
One of the...
stories that continues to live, either through rumors or social media out in the world, is that
You, Megan, are the one who manipulated
calculated and are responsible for this Megxit,
Oh my gosh. It's amazing how they can use Meg for everything.
There are even stories that you knew all along that this was going to happen. You went through the whole process and it was all intentional to
- Thank you.
Build your brand.
Can you imagine?
how little sense that makes,
I left my career, my life. - How famous was Meghan Markle before this shit, compared to how famous she is now? - You left your career? What career? You were washed up.
You were on
D-list!
What fucking career? Sucking and fucking, you call that career?
Idiot.
I left my career, my life. I left everything because I love him, right? And our plan was to do this forever. Our plan for me, I mean, I wrote...
letters to his family when I got there saying, "I am dedicated to this. I'm here for you. Use me as you'd like."
There.
I think she said that line before somewhere in a...
NFL changing room.
No.
guidance as well, right? There were certain things that you couldn't do, but you know, unlike what you see in the movies, there's no class on how to
how to speak, how to cross your legs, how to be royal. There's none of that trend. That might exist for other men. There's no class on how to be a classy lady. There's no class on how to behave yourself.
There's no class on how to have respect for tradition.
You know why? Because the royal family expects Harry to not choose some divorcee
low-level D-list American washed-up actress. They expect him to choose a lady of quality, as did his older brother William. Kate did not need lessons.
Kate understood. Learn on the job, behave yourself, be receptive, pay attention, and have respect. Why would they need a class?
There's only two brothers. Why would they put a class together?
The first brother didn't fuck it up. The second brother has to choose a wife who hopefully is an entitled moron.
That's all he has to do. Get a wife who's not an entitled moron. She'll pick it up pretty quickly.
Now she's like, there was no class. I can't believe it. There was no class. I thought you were amazing at the job.
I thought you nailed it, remember?
Actress?
Thank you.
idiot exists for other members of the family that was not something that was offered to me so nobody tells you anything
no nobody prepares you no no but even sorry but even down to like the national anthem
Sorry, sorry, shh, shh, I'm complaining now.
No one thought to say, "Oh, you're American. You're not going to know that. That's me late at night googling
had what's the match I've got to learn this I don't want to embarrass them I need to learn these
30 hymns for a church all of this is televised. I don't know why she's complaining. Yeah, you had to google it and learn it like everyone else googled and learned things. Do you want a teacher?
I'm guessing that's what she wants. She wants someone to sit there and teach her like she's still in school, I guess.
I guess it's what she wants.
I don't know what she's saying. I mean, and the thing is this, she's like, I don't want to embarrass him. I need to know the national anthem. Let me tell you something.
Megan.
If you're a likable person, you can get really far.
in life.
You could fail at the national anthem on TV and you could go on and say, oh my God, oh my God, this is crazy, but I'm American and I'm just so excited to be part of the British royal family and I have to learn a new national anthem now. I'm really excited. I promise I'll know it next time. Giggle and be cool about it. People will be like, aww.
You'd be fine.
But because you're a cunt,
People don't let you off. That's what happens when you're a dickhead. When you go through life when you're a dickhead, no one lets you off, right?
That's your personality defect.
I'm sorry that the British taxpayer did not hire a harem, a gaggle of teachers,
for a perma classroom to teach you everything you didn't know.
Like please and thank you.
Yeah.
I wanted to make them proud. Okay, but here's the question. Do you think you would have left or ever stepped back and
were it not for Megan?
No. The answer is no. Say no. No. The answer to your question is no. I will. The first time Harry was honest. We're getting somewhere.
I would not have stepped back if Megan did not make me step back. I would not have. I wouldn't have...
been able to because
Now he's pussying it out.
He said it and I was pussing out. I wouldn't have been able to, because when you say I wouldn't have been able to, that means I wanted to.
Without Megan, I wouldn't have been able to step down because I wanted to step down, not because Megan made me. I wanted to, but I'm not big and strong enough. I'm not a big enough man to do it without my wife's holding hand.
and forcing me and guiding me through. I'm only 36.
I've only been through tours of Afghanistan. The idea of not going on free holidays and smiling and waving is a very difficult thing to say no to. I haven't had a life difficult enough to learn that kind of courage and mental fortitude.
Thankfully, this washed-up actress has taught me all I need to know about resilience.
Shut up.
I myself was trapped.
As well. I mean she felt trapped you were trapped I
Yeah, I didn't see a way out. But you had this life your whole life. This has been your life your whole life. Yeah, but, you know...
I was trapped, but I didn't know I was trapped.
But the moment that I met and I...
and then our worlds.
- Thank you.
I was trapped. I didn't know I was trapped. The moment I met Meg and she told me I'm a stupid loser and I have to follow her out in the royal family, I said yes.
sort of collided in the most amazing of ways.
and then to see how
Please explain how you...
Prince Harry raised in a palace
in a life of privilege,
literally a prince, how you were trapped.
trapped within the system.
like the rest of my family are.
My father and my brother, they are trapped.
They don't get to leave.
And I have huge compassion for that.
Well, okay, so... - Get to leave what?
Leave and do what?
Harry.
They don't get to leave.
What are you talking about?
I mean, Oprah called him on his bullshit there.
How are you, Prince Harry, trapped? Oprah called him on his bullshit there. What he's trying to do here is pretend Meghan didn't force him.
I was trapped too, but I didn't realize I was trapped. And they're all trapped. We're all trapped.
-
We're all trapped with a royal family.
And he's trying to save Megan because he knows she made him and the world knows she made him. And he's trying to pretend that's not the case.
The impression of the world, maybe it's a false impression, is that
for all these years before Megan, you were living your life as a royal...
Prince Harry, the beloved Prince Harry, and that you were enjoying that life. We didn't get the impression that you were feeling trapped in that life.
Enjoying the life because there were photographs of me smiling while I was shaking hands and meeting people.
like
I'm sure you guys have
covered some of that.
That's a part of the job, that's a part of the role, that's what's expected.
no matter who you are in the family, no matter what's going on in your personal life, no matter what's just happened,
If the bikes roll up and the car rolls up,
You gotta get dressed, you gotta get in there, you wipe the tears away, shake off whatever you're thinking about, and you gotta be on your endgame.
But,
He didn't answer her question.
Well, the question is,
you were enjoying your life as a royal. And he's saying no. So what he's trying to say now is, I never enjoyed my life as a royal. That's what he's trying to say.
Saying no, I was trapped. I never, just because you saw me smiling and shaking hands doesn't mean I was enjoying it. When they made me smile, I had to smile. I wasn't enjoying it.
And I don't believe that.
I don't think that's a lie.
And the reason we all know that's a lie is because if you're raised as a member of the royal family, you're going to enjoy your life as a member of the royal family. You've never known anything else, right?
So what he's trying to do is absolve Megan's responsibility.
Before this interview, him and Megan sat down and Megan said, they're going to try and make me look bad, Harry. You have to make sure they don't think I made you do this.
Do you understand, Harry?
Everyone thinks I made you quit, but I didn't, did I?
No.
No, I didn't, did I? No, no, you didn't. All right, because you were trapped too, weren't you? Yeah, I was trapped, yeah.
Good. So you have to make sure they know that this is not my fault.
All the destruction we've caused, all the dishonor,
and damage we've done to one of the oldest, most respected families on the planet.
It's not my fault, is it Harry? No, no, it's not your fault, no, no. It's the racist press and I want to leave anyway. I mean, to be honest with you, it was terrible.
Good boy. Okay, go.
your mom would say about this stepping back, this decision to step back from the royal family?
How would she feel about this moment? I think she would feel very angry.
with how this has panned out and very sad.
But ultimately,
all she'd ever want is for us to be happy.
- Megan shared with us that there was a conversation with you about Archie's skin tone.
What was that conversation?
You wanted freedom from that life. You wanted freedom to make your own money. You wanted freedom to make deals with Netflix and Spotify. But you also wanted to serve the queen.
We didn't want to give up or we didn't want to turn our backs on the associations and the people that we...
that we've been supporting. But also, oh, it exists. Yeah, but it exists. But also the Netflix and the Spotify of it all
That was never part of the plan.
- Yeah. - 'Cause you didn't have a plan. - We didn't have a plan. - We didn't have a plan. That was suggested by somebody else, by the point of where my family literally cut me off financially. And I had to afford security for us. Wait, hold up, wait a minute. - Your family cut you off? - Yeah.
in the first quarter of 2020.
But,
I've got what my mum left me.
And without that, we would not have been able to do this.
OK.
So, you know, touching back on what you were asking, what my mum would think of this,
I think she saw it coming.
Mm.
And I certainly felt her presence throughout this whole process.
And I'm, you know, for me,
I'm...
I'm just really relieved and happy to be sitting here
talking to you with my wife by my side.
because I can't begin to imagine what it must have been like for her going through this process by herself and
all those years ago because it has been unbelievably tough for the two of us, but at least we had each other.
Well, Princess Diana did a Meghan Markle to some degree, right? She joined the royal family. She wasn't completely true to protocol.
Start fucking everybody.
But you do look great.
Well, the thing is, I said this at the very beginning, that thought re-ruins institutions. Right.
This is what Diana did.
Harry
Prince Charles isn't even his dad, right? Some other guy.
Diana was fucking behind Prince Charles' back, and that's who Harry's dad really is. Then she was fucking the guy who owns Harrods' son or whatever...
Thought to rerun institutions.
What females refuse to accept in the modern world because they want to be sexually liberated, or they think they want to be sexually liberated, is that sexually liberated females are always frowned upon.
The modern world is pretending that it's fine for women to go sleep with 100 men. It's not. It's not biologically normal.
It's not biologically normal for women to be promiscuous. Men are biologically designed to be promiscuous. A man does not lose value by fucking 100 women.
Whereas a woman will lose value for fucking 100 men.
Now, in the shitmunchers' world, in the peasants' world, it doesn't matter if a girl's a hoe because she's not important. But if you're going to join something as prestigious as the British royal family...
to then say, I'm going to throw all tradition out the window and I want to be a hoe and fuck everybody, is going to bring shame upon you, which is going to bring shame upon the family. Because that's how females are viewed as shamefully.
To be fucked by everything. In most parts of the world today, and especially in third world countries, et cetera, that shit, you get honor killed for that shit. You get stoned to death for that shit. You can't do it.
Females are viewed as shameful if they act shamefully.
Now these women are acting without modesty, they're going to bring shame upon themselves and shame upon the family.
Princess Diana to some degree,
did a Meghan to some degree, to a lesser extent, but she didn't behave as she's supposed to. You know, she...
Started running around fucking people.
You can't do that.
You can't do that.
I know that Harry's ginger penis is not going to satisfy you.
And you knew that. She knew that. But when you sign up,
For that life, you're like, okay, the dick ain't right.
But I'm a princess.
You know, I'm already, I'm older than him. I'm an old lady-ish. I'm old lady. I'm not a 19-year-old virgin. I'm an old lady. I'm a divorcee.
My acting career is bullshit.
At least I get to be a princess, get to have some kids, and I'm a princess now. Boom.
You could sacrifice Dick for that deal.
If you're not a complete hoe,
But when you've been smashed left, right and center,
Just dick in the brain. 'Cause she's been plowed left, right and center by God knows who.
And she can't get the thought out of her mind.
She keeps talking about how hard it was for her in the middle of the night. Harry's asleep, right? They've just fought and he fell asleep.
She's laying there like, is that it?
- Thank you.
That's what she's talking about.
That's what the pain in the middle of the night really is.
Because if she got fucked right, she'd be asleep.
which is
So,
My thoughts on Princess Diana, I don't know her whole story.
But that's obviously tied into this, right? Because Harry feels like, oh, my mother went through this and now Meghan's going through this and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But both of those females were acting out of line.
There are traditions in place and the biological evolutionary historical tradition
for females.
We're to be doting, to be submissive.
and to be
Extremely exclusive.
Princes and kings only married virgins up to a couple hundred years ago.
This bitch is divorced. She's been dicked all over the fucking place. How did she end up an actress?
She sucked and fucked her way there to Netflix.
So that's what this is really about. So she's acting shamefully and she's brought shame upon the family.
That's the truth of it. What's your relationship like now with your family?
I've spoken more to my grandmother in the last year than I have done for many, many years.
Do you all Zoom calls?
We did a couple of Zoom calls with Archie.
My grandmother and I have a
a really good relationship and understanding, and I have a deep respect for her. She's my Colonel-in-Chief.
Right? She always will be. Your relationship with your father?
Is he taking your calls now?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- He is.
There's a lot to work through there.
You know, I...
I feel really let down.
because
he's been through something similar.
He knows
what pain feels like.
And Archie's his grandson.
Um...
But at the same time,
Of course, I will always love him.
but there's a lot of hurt that's happened.
but they only know what they know.
- Okay.
And that's the thing. I've tried to
Or what they're told. Or what they're told.
I've tried to educate them
through the process that I have been educated. - I've tried to educate the other members of the royal family that I've tried to tell my brother and everyone else, you don't have to listen to any of this. You don't have to do as the royals are supposed to do. We can all just run away and just all live in different parts of the country. And we can all just talk to Netflix and Oprah. We don't have to actually be royal. The royal family will still survive if we all just run off
What are you talking about?
If the royal family, if nobody in the royal family is being a member of the royal family,
then there is no royal family.
So what are you proposing?
that your older brother who has a subservient, obedient wife
should get rid of her and get some skank and go on Oprah and embarrass himself?
At this point, Williams should kick Harry's ass.
This is the only bad thing I want to say about William. William, you're a bit of a bitch because you should have thrown down by now.
You and Harry on BBC One, you're the queen and you're the prince and shit, right? Call BBC. You should throw down on BBC One. You should whoop his ass.
And I also know Kate would fuck Megan up. Megan thinks she's got that tough street thing. Kate's got the old school stiff upper lip. How dare you insult my family?
Kate Ticker out.
Let's just have a fucking bloodbath. Let's end this shit.
You want to see the real world couple is let's do this.
Cage match.
What's that in WWE where they have the cage? First one to get out the cage wins.
Cage match, I think it was called. I would love to see William body slam Harry.
Then the royal family would be finding, finding some honor could be restored if Kate put Meghan through a table.
Then there'll be some honor back. If she got her up, it's like,
Brown ass bitch. Boom.
'Cause is it like being in a big royal bubble? -Yeah. -Yeah. And your brother relationship?
Much has been said about that. Yeah, and much will continue to be said about that. You know, as I said before, I love William to bits. He's my brother. We've been through
held together.
and we have a shared experience.
but we were on different paths. - Well, what is particularly striking is what Megan shared with us earlier.
is that no one wants to admit that there's anything about race
or that race has played a role in the trolling and the vitriol.
And yet,
Megan shared with us, there was a conversation with you about Archie's skin tone.
we
What was that conversation?
That conversation
I'm never going to share.
But at the time,
At the time it was awkward, I was a bit shocked.
- Can you tell us what the question was? - No. I'm not comfortable sharing that.
um
But that was right at the beginning. Right? Because it probably, if the question happened to all, it probably wasn't an erasist tone. That's why you're not gonna fucking share it, you dick.
Like what will the baby look like?
There's this thing with these liberal psychos. Everything's racist. Everything's race. Everything's race. It's not race. They just asked if you'd have your fucking shitty ginger hair, you knob.
Yeah, what will the kids look like? Yeah, what will the kids look like?
But that was right at the beginning when she wasn't going to get security, when members of my family were suggesting that she carries on acting because there's not enough money to pay for her and all this sort of stuff.
There were some real obvious signs before we even got married.
that this was going to be really hot.
So in conclusion, if you had the support, you'd still be there?
Thank you.
Without question, I'm sad that
that what's happened has happened, but I know
and I'm comfortable knowing that we did everything that we could
Victim work?
And we did.
victims on the exit process
the way
the way that it should have been done. With as much respect. With as much respect. Oh my god, we just did everything we could to
to protect them. So what do you say to the people? That's not true. If you wanted to step down and protect them, do you know what these two fuckers could have done?
They could have stepped down, no one would have even noticed.
No one gives a shit if you go to South Africa and wave your hands.
No one even notices.
You could have stepped down and said to look,
We're not gonna do any more world duties. We're just gonna hide and chill a bit for like a year. Let's not make any announcements. Let's not set the tabloids off. Let's not get Megan a bunch of press, even though that's what she really wants.
Let's just, we're just going to chill. We've got a few months off. You do the rest and we'll just go chill.
We're going to go Canada on holiday. Just us. No one's going to know.
We're not going to step down, so we still have our security, and we're just going to go to Canada.
Easy peasy. The fact they even made an announcement.
shows they have no respect for the royal family.
The fact they even announced it shows a lack of respect.
So this is another lie.
That's a fucking lie. You are liars.
people who say that you came here, you made these multi-million dollar deals and that you were just money grabbing royals.
First off, this was never the intention.
Um,
And we're certainly not complaining. Our life is great now. We've got a beautiful house.
I've got a beautiful family. The dogs are really happy.
but at the time during COVID,
the suggestion by a friend was what about streamers?
Yeah, we genuinely hadn't thought of it before. I never thought about it.
So there was all sorts of different options and look from my perspective all I needed
was
enough money to be able to pay for security to keep my family safe.
Mm-hmm.
How will you use Archwell as...
a means of speaking to things that are important to you in the world.
I think in creating
I mean, life is about storytelling, right? About the stories we tell ourselves, the stories we're told, what we buy into.
That's right. Life's about storytelling. Stories we tell ourselves,
what we buy into,
If that's not the insight of a manipulator right there, life's about storytelling.
the stories we tell ourselves and the stories we get others to buy into. She understands the world very well.
Meghan's not a particularly stupid person.
She's an evil person, she's not particularly stupid.
Harry is very stupid because he has no life experience because he's a royal, right? He's never been around the block. He's never dealt with these ratchet hoes.
A G like me, we've dealt with these hoes, so we know the game. He doesn't know about hoes.
and she understood as a master manipulator.
I spin stories.
I get people to buy into my story. I tell myself stories to the point where I can cry on demand during Oprah interviews.
It's manipulation.
She's a manipulator.
and for us to be able to
have storytelling through a truthful lens that hopefully is uplifting. It's going to be great.
Truth is subjective, my dear.
And you've not said anything truthful in this interview. The only thing truthful she said is that the media had a different standard for her than Kate.
I agree with that.
But that was something you set yourself up for with your own attitude.
If you set yourself up,
For a difficult situation, then you're going to have to deal with that difficult situation. If I run my mouth before a fight and then lose, they're going to make fun of me more than if I don't run my mouth. Who set themselves up? I set myself up. You set yourself up for that.
Knowing how many people that that can land with and being able to give a voice to a lot of people that are underrepresented and aren't really heard.
Any regrets?
.
Back to the chickens. Always have to show the chickens. This morning I woke up earlier than H and saw a note from someone in our team in the UK saying that the Duke of Edinburgh had gone to the hospital.
But I just picked up the phone and I
I called the queen.
just to check in. Just like I'd you know I would that's what we do it's like being able to default to not having to every moment go
Is that appropriate?
for serving my family
what they do is there's a level of control in there, right? Because they're fearful of
The papers are going to say about him.
Whereas with us, it was just like, just be yourself, just be genuine, just be authentic, just go and do what...
Listen, if you get it wrong, you get it wrong, if you get it right, you get it right.
I always show the chickens. They're such nice people. They say it was a chicken. On February 19th, 2021, Buckingham Palace released a statement announcing it was agreed that Prince Harry and Meghan would not return as working members of the royal family.
Harry and Meghan's royal patronages and Prince Harry's honorary military titles
would be returned to the Queen.
Queen's statement was released after our interview took place.
Your exit agreement with the
royal family, that is coming up
at the end of this month? The decision is...
I think the decision as of last week or whatever it was, is that they will be removing everything.
Are you hurt by that decision?
I am hurt, but at the same time, I completely respect my grandmother's decision. I would still love for us to be able to continue to support those associations, albeit without...
the
title or the role.
Could you be as satisfied now doing this through your own organization, Archwell?
Well, this is what we're doing, right? We're still doing it. We're still going to always do the work. But I also think it's important for you or everyone to know this decision that was made about patronages and all of that was before anyone knew that we were sitting down with you. I think that it's, I can only imagine that they were- Oh, I heard a story that you're getting punished now-
those were being taken away because you did sit down with me. Yeah, but that was, I mean, those letters, those conversations, that was, that was finalized before anyone even knew that we were going to sit down. So that's just not true.
All right, tell me this, Harry. What delights you now in your everyday experience and the things that you actually cherish in your life?
here with Archie.
- Hmm. - And Megan.
Um...
- Thank you.
This year has been...
crazy for everybody.
But to have outdoor space where I can go for walks with Archie and we can go for walks as a family and with the dogs and
We go to the hikes or go down to the beach, which is so close.
All of these things are just... Who filmed this footage of them being a normal little family running around with the dogs? It's all primed bullshit. Same with the chickens.
I guess the highlight for me is
sticking him on the back of the bicycle.
in his little baby seat.
and take him on his bike rides is something which I never was able to do when I was young.
I can see him on the bike. You never rode a bike in your life.
When you were a child prince, you never rode a bike.
I guarantee by Google, Prince Harry on a bike. I guarantee I see him on a bike. I know I will see him on a bike. I'm not even going to do it.
You rode a bike, you fucking idiot. I'm actually getting genuinely upset now because, and I'll rant at the end, but this is actually very upsetting.
This is upsetting because...
We're living in a world where tradition is being destroyed in real time. Not only are they undermining basic things such as gender, men and women, and...
Everything, gender roles, marriage, everything's being destroyed. But the last traditions are being destroyed. And the saddest thing is, especially in Europe, European traditions are being eroded faster than anywhere else.
The traditions in the United Arab Emirates remain, the traditions in Africa remain, the traditions in China remain.
But the traditions in Europe are being destroyed in real time. In the last 20, 30 years, all the traditions are getting destroyed. You can't fly the flag anymore. You're a racist. Everything's getting destroyed.
Everything's getting destroyed.
And one of the last vestiges of tradition we had was the British royal family. And now this is being destroyed.
Why?
Can't you just leave some shit alone?
Megan, couldn't you have had enough grace to just join and say, you know what, it's been this way for a long time. Let's just leave it how it is.
You think you're doing a good job?
That's progress, progressivism.
You're a dick. - And he's got his arms out and he's like, ooh, chatting, chatting, chatting. - Archie on his bike, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I do, I think to myself, "Wow!" What's his new favorite word? What's his favorite word now? Oh my gosh, he's on a roll. In the past couple weeks it has been "hydrate", which is just a stamp. But also, whenever anyone leaves the house, he's like, "Drive safe." Drive safe! Which is really, which is really sweet. Because he's not even tuned yet.
You said that your brother was trapped.
You said that you love your brother and always will love your brother. You didn't tell me what the relationship is now though.
Um...
The relationship is
space.
at the moment.
And you know,
Time heals all things, hopefully.
Any regrets?
Amen.
No, I think we've done, I'm really proud of us.
you know,
I'm so proud of my wife. She safely delivered Archie during a period of time which was
so cruel and so mean.
And every single day I was coming back from work from London. I was coming back to my wife crying.
while breastfeeding Archie.
That's coming from someone who wasn't reading anything.
And as she touched on earlier, if she had a redding thing, she wouldn't beat him up.
And now we've got another little one on the way.
I have one.
My regret.
is believing them when they said I would be protected.
Hi, Bobby.
They cannot protect you from the press if you're a dickhead.
If you're going to sit there in front of the press and say, no one asks if I feel okay on camera. If you're going to refuse to stick to tradition, if you're going to refuse to give...
Take the royal last name. If you're going to refuse to behave correctly, they cannot protect you, Megan.
How can they protect you if every single time you're in public you act a fool?
Who can protect my reputation if I constantly soil it?
It's your fault.
She has taken zero responsibility at any point during this entire thing.
Never at any point does she say, I admit I made the mistake.
Never!
They should have protected me. I should be able to act like a prick.
full time and be fully protected. How can they protect an idiot?
We all saw that nobody likes you. You're dislikable.
The public don't like you. The media don't like you. I don't like you. I'm still going to fuck you, but I don't like you.
Nobody dislikes. Nobody likes you.
- He doesn't even like you, he likes everybody. They cannot protect you from that. And you're gonna sit here and still play the victim card after genuinely bringing shame to one of the oldest,
most prestigious family names on the face of the planet,
Keep that.
You're a fool, Meghan Markle.
really seen that that wasn't happening.
You would have done more. I would have been able to do more. Like what?
I wasn't supposed to see it.
I wasn't supposed to know.
And
And now...
because we're actually on the other side,
We've actually
not just survived, but are thriving.
Mm-hmm.
You know, this, I mean, just miracles.
.
Thank you.
Yeah, I think that all of those things that I was hoping for
have happened.
And this is in some ways just the beginning for us.
You know, we've been through a lot. It's felt like a...
Lifetime. A lifetime. So your story with the prince does have a happy ending?
It does.
Yeah.
It really did. It has a happy ending because you made it so. Yeah, greater than any fairy tale you've ever read. Greater than any fairy tale. Yes.
What you've described here today, being trapped in
not even being aware of it.
all the things that had transpired, and then she comes into your life, and then you're doing therapy. Do you think
in some way she saved you?
Please don't say yes.
Yeah, without question. There was a bigger purpose. There was...
other forces at play, I think.
throughout this whole process.
I'm the last person to think.
Ooh. Yeah.
But.
It's undeniable when these things have happened. She saved you from what?
She saved you from being a prince.
So...
Yeah, she did, without question, she's safe. And I would--
I mean, I think that's lovely. I would disagree. I think he saved all of us.
He ultimately
called it and was like, we've got to find a way.
for us, for Archie. - I'm depressed.
You've depressed me, Megan. I need to go to a psych ward.
I can no longer smile.
- And laugh. - That saved all of us. - That camera. - You need to want to be saved. - I was gonna smile and wave at this camera, but I can no longer do it. My life's too hard. - We can't wait for the big day.
sometimes
The joke's over.
We've had a big laugh.
But this is the end of modern civilization as we know it.
And this is not an over exaggeration.
The end of modern civilization as we know it.
when the prince of the most prestigious royal family on the planet
is going to say a washed up actress saved him.
by doing nothing other than ostracizing him,
from his own family members, destroying his lifetime achievements,
and removing the support he had.
of the government that he once represented.
And you call that a savior? You think she saved you?
Harry, she ruined her fucking life.
"Megan, you're an entitled piece of shit bitch."
That's all you are. You're a very dislikable person.
You've caused absolute shame and brought absolute shame upon the British royal family. No, you'll continue to get Netflix deals. You'll continue to get Spotify deals. No problem. You'll continue to make money. It's not a problem. You can sit in LA with all those other fucking liberal weirdos, make a bunch of money, have kids. But let me tell you something.
There are some things about the world, there are some universal constants that you cannot affect or change.
And one of them
is that happiness as a man is derived from strength.
And happiness as a woman is derived from your man's strength.
The only way to be happy as a man is to be respected as a man. And the only way to be happy as a woman is to have a man you respect.
deep at night
In the darkest nights, Meghan Markle, you're still awake.
He's given you everything you wanted. You've moved. You've left. The royal family are behind, but you're still laying right awake because you don't respect the man next to you.
And Harry's always going to be miserable. He's always going to be miserable because he knows he's a pussy.
He knows it deep down. His brother told him so. So he stopped talking to his brother. His father won't answer the phone.
Everyone's told him. He's just refusing to listen. Meghan's never going to be happy with Harry. Harry's never going to be happy with himself. They're going to stay miserable, miserable,
depressed, coked up or on some other sleeping pill like the rest of Hollywood. What a shame.
You could have stayed as a royal couple in the British royal family, and instead you've done nothing but demote yourselves...
to low-level celebrities.
Failures.
That's the end of this.
Take speech.
I am
Actually, to be completely fair, semi-impressed with Megan. She did very, very well. And I'm sure she would have fooled a few amateurs in the world.
but you cannot fool me.
Megan, see you next week.