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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. I'm here with my guest, everybody knows who
He's
It's the most searched, right, on Google.
I was at one point, yes. OK, you'll be again after the show. Yes, Andrew Tate. And for the international audience, I should introduce myself. My name is Mircea Abada, and I'm doing like TV.
for 32 years now.
I'm hosting Antenna 3. Yes. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Let's
Let's start with-- oh, I'm speaking very bad English, so my arms will hurt in 10 minutes. So I'm counting on you to do the talking. No problem. But first thing first.
Where is your Bugatti?
You know, it's so interesting because
When Decaut broke my door down the first time,
That's the first thing they said to me. Do you know that? That's the first, no. Where is the Bugatti? That's the first words they, they didn't ask about human trafficking. They didn't ask the girls who I had raped who were in the house if they're okay. They didn't check for nothing. They just, they just bust in the door and they say, where's your Bugatti? So where is it? Everyone wants this car. I'll have to find it when I'm free. I'm sure it's somewhere. I think I left it somewhere. I can't remember. I don't know. I'll find it.
Well, we have this in common because I'm also confident that I have a Bugatti, but I don't know where exactly it happens sometimes You know the police are after you you forget where your Bugatti is and you know but it's very interesting to me that I
the prosecutor was so desperate to steal this car. I think he had already bragged to his friends, perhaps, that he'd be the first prosecutor to seize a Bugatti. And we know Romania. Romania likes show business. I love this country. It's a beautiful country. But they love to make a big show out of criminal cases. And they thought it would be good optics for them to get this car and put it on a truck and make a big deal. So they were very, very disappointed when it wasn't here. Yeah. So it's not in Romania because my kid asked that. So now it's not. It's not in Romania, unfortunately.
Yeah, and Karinuzek was in Romania.
It's already left? - It's already left. - Yeah, okay. How much is the repair? You know? Well, I don't know yet, but I think it's around 300-400 thousand euro. So you're not voting for this mayor, huh? It wasn't the road, actually. - It wasn't the road? - No, I think it was just bad luck with the car. But maybe, we'll see. We'll see how it all works out. - Can you have bad luck in a Koenigsegg? Yes, you can. Turns out you can. You can break down the middle of traffic and a Dacia next to you can get very angry and bib at you. And there's not much you can do. So it can happen. - I have two friends.
who bought some Lamborghinis back in the day. Murcielago or something, I don't know, cars.
I don't know cars. But they are convertible. And when they bought them, they are going to the seaside and driving. And they're very proud of themselves. Everybody in his Lamborghini driving. And...
Rain.
It starts to rain. And they are pulling over, you know, just to put the cover. And they have tools and screws and everything.
passing them and "Ahh, you're very good!" and they're like... - Yeah, Dacia's bulletproof, you're right. Dacia, you cannot go wrong with this car.
What are you doing in Romania?
I love Romania, you know? I moved here eight or nine years ago. I came here to fight.
I was unhappy with England, I was unhappy where I was living because I made a prediction.
And my prediction was that the Western European nations are going to sell out to globalists and allow their populations to be replaced by third world migrants.
And I was right.
And crime is now through the roof in London and Paris and these other countries. We don't yet have this problem in Bucharest, but unfortunately, I feel like we may be on the way towards it. So I decided to leave, and I was looking for somewhere new to live. Eight or nine years ago, I was not so rich, so I did not have options like now. I couldn't just move anywhere. But I had some friends in Romania, and I had some money, and I came here for one summer.
And I liked it very much. And I thought maybe I'll stay a little while. And then a little while turned into 10 years. So it was an accident, I guess. So you're not that rich when you came
to Romania. Yes. Romania make you rich? No, Romania did not make me rich. I made all my money on the internet.
It's not that Romania made me rich, but
I liked it here. I think Romania is a beautiful country full of beautiful people.
I think that people have very good hearts here.
I think that the problems that you can attribute towards Romania are not the people's fault. I think there's a lot of international forces and internal forces, a lot of things being pulled in different directions. We speak about that. But it's the same in every country, to be fair. It's the same in most countries.
You know, when you talk with a millionaire and you are a multi-millionaire, right?
The most basic question is how you made your first million.
Yeah, it is the most basic question. And I have an online education... We'll build up from here. Of course. No problem. I mean, I have an online educational platform. I teach people.
Lots of different things online, including how to make money at university.com.
That's what made me the majority of my money with the largest online
educational platform in the world.
I made a lot of money with cryptocurrency, I made a lot of money with real estate, I made a lot of money with the school. Everyone talks about webcam and
this human trafficking garbage and all of these things, but this never made me so much money. There's so many studios in Bucharest that made a lot more money than me, and they're still making a lot more money than me.
So this was not my-- But you start with this--
webcam
You stuck with that? I mean, I already had a job where I was doing different businesses before I did the webcam and I was doing many different businesses after I did the webcam. I've always been trying to do many different things and I've always been constantly trying to find a new way to make some money. There was a short period where we had a small webcam studio, yes, but...
We must have been one of the smallest in Bucharest. As I've said, you can drive past huge studios here, which are open, and nobody gets arrested for human trafficking, and nobody raids their house, and nobody puts any of these people in jail, and nobody steals any of their things.
They only attacked me.
even though I had a very small studio. And I don't know how much truth I'm allowed to tell on CNN, but I'll be honest with you, the reason they did this is because-- can I tell the absolute truth? So you-- yes, of course. You are tall, brown, sexy, and rich. So you can say whatever you want. Thank you very much, sir. Thank you.
Yeah, I got attacked
because of my political views and because of my political influence.
and they just used the webcam thing, which had been long finished many years before as an excuse to attack me.
Because--
They didn't care about what I was doing when I was doing it. They didn't care that all the other people in Bucharest do it. They don't care that all of these things are happening. But when you talk too loud about certain political opinions, then they have to find a reason to get rid of you. And they go through your history, and they look at everything they can. And then they start to care years later. So this is not a coincidence.
I was not intent to talk a lot about your
prosecution and stuff. But it seems that you're coming to that topic every time I'm asking something. So let's dive into it.
Tell me why is so
Soresh is so bad.
Why do you think Suresh is so bad?
It's an interesting question, because when you talk about-- Thank you. No, it is. But when you talk about bad, I have to approach this non-emotionally.
And the non-emotional answer to the question is that I don't think, although I disagree with him, although I believe he is bad, he of course doesn't. And powerful people with money always try their very best to exert their influence and exert their worldview. If you have a whole bunch of money and you hire staff,
cleaners, whatever they are. You want them to think like you and do as you say. So if you have global influence level of money, you want people to think like you and do as you say. So there are currently billionaires on the left, globalists who are trying to replace all the native populations of European countries like Soros, which I think is wrong. But he has money and power. So that's what he's doing. And there's also right wing billionaires like Trump and Elon who are trying to reverse this and fix this. This is actually human nature. When you have people with a certain amount of fiscal capability, they're going to try and do these
THEIR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
monumental thing. So I think it's very bad because I think that
Globalism as a whole is bad. The idea that
there are no differences between people, and that all people from everywhere is the same, and that we can all just be mixed up and be some version of tax slave,
for a one world government, I think that's wrong. I think that Romanians are different
to British who are different to Nepalese, who are different to Indians, who are different to Japanese, who are different to Congolese. I believe we're all different people and we need different governments and we need different systems and we have different cultures and we have different customs. But rain falls the same on us. It's true. Absolutely it does. However,
If you were to take all of the Norwegians out of Norway,
and put
in 700,000 Indians instead.
Would Norway be Norway?
No, it'd be a different country, because it's all full of Indians, and there's no Norwegians. And they wouldn't eat the same food, and they wouldn't act the same way, and they wouldn't look the same, and they wouldn't speak the same language. It would all be very different. But in Utopia, you can't replace all Norwegians. Well, but my point is that Soros believes that all people are just universally the same.
And what he's trying to do, and what he's been very successful in doing in Western European nations,
And the reason that Eastern European nations have held out for so long
was primarily economic down to the fact that
Even migrants didn't want to come to these countries because they believed them to be poorer than they were. Or they could get more money from the West so they would head West.
But what Soros is trying to do is say, look, it doesn't matter if you have Romanians in
or Indians in Romania. We need people, we need taxes, we need slaves,
and we're just going to put people there. And that erodes culture, and it destroys the country. If you want Romania to look and feel,
like the Romania you grew up in.
If you want to remember it,
in a certain way and it still looked that way. You can't change all the people for other people.
and this is why Soros is bad. Now Soros
also has massive influence over the media, banking, all these things. He's a billionaire, he's a powerful man. There are a lot of billionaires in the world. Of course there are. Of course there are. But some of them richer.
then Suresh, Elon Musk, one of them. Absolutely. And Elon's on the good team.
But Soros also funds very heavily
political parties and he also funds very heavily judicial establishments.
And
very simply,
when he is trying to push one world view
If I try and push the other,
He wants to get rid of me. I'm his, I'm his enemy. I'm his problem. This is normal. This is human nature. This is not an emotional decision. This is not a matter of me sitting and being mad about it. My point is if he's going to spend billions of dollars trying to use
the media machine and use
propaganda to psyop people into committing cultural suicide, he's not going to allow someone like me, the most googled man in the world, to try and psyop people into doing the
to preserving their culture. So he wants to get rid of me. So if this is natural,
He's not--
something spectacularly, it's usual. The Trump administration is trying the same but in the other sense, to get rid of competition, concurrence. Well, they did it to Trump. I mean, we know that the liberals did it to him. The liberals tried to put him in jail. The liberals dragged him through court. The liberals made up imaginary charges on him.
The problem with being right wing is that
if you are a truthfully
If you're a person who honors truth,
then you're also going to honor what the systems are meant to be used for. It turns out that the good people do not weaponize the systems the same way the bad people do. This is actually kind of unfair because we're playing a game where the bad guys cheat and the good guys stick to the rules. So will Trump go after his political enemies? I don't think so because that's not what the judicial system is supposed to be for. However, will his enemies go after him? 100%. But you describe this going after the enemy like natural. That's the reason I'm asking you. In a political sense, I wouldn't say it's natural, but certainly in a human nature sense, it's natural.
somebody who is working hard to the counter of what you're working hard towards.
then you're going to be interested in getting rid of that person. I mean, this is very simple. Or you're going to be interested in getting rid of the head of a rebellion.
If I have members of staff, 100 members of staff work for me, and 85 listen to me, and 15 who I pay don't listen to me, but I'm in charge of them, like Soros is in charge of many things, and those 15 are not listening, I'm going to want to get rid of them, or at least get rid of the one man who's inspiring them to not listen, which in this case is me.
I'm seen as a huge problem for the elites of Europe, not America. I'm a huge problem for the elites of Europe because I am counter to the current European objective because the current European objective is
and make no mistake about it, is to replace every population with third world migrants so that everybody goes broke and then become fully tyrannical with AI and make slaves of us all. That's what they're trying to do and they don't like me warning people about it. But this sounds pretty dystopian.
Why the European elite?
one such a thing. I mean, they're bad people,
Why do they want
Me a slave.
I'll tell you why.
Well, let's answer it another way.
If you're currently an elite,
in Europe.
or America or any of the Democratic Western nations.
you're really not as powerful as you want to be.
Let me give you an example. If the leader of Romania goes to Saudi Arabia,
and meets King Salman.
Right?
Who do you think is more powerful?
I would argue that the leader of Saudi Arabia is far more powerful than the leader of Romania. The leader of Saudi Arabia can just talk at will. He can say whatever he wants. He can decide who goes to jail, who doesn't. He decides which road is built. He is the absolute leader. Here in Romania, you get a few years. You have to compete with the other team. You have to make sure you get re-elected. You have to get it through Senate. You have to get it through Parliament. There's competing forces. You're not the all-out leader. So why?
does the European elites
Why do the European elites constantly try and replace the population here with third world people? Because they want to be third world leaders.
They want to be absolute monarchs. They want to be absolute leaders and rule with force. They want to be in a situation where they have a population of people who do not have
the same respect for human rights, do not have the same standards for working, do not expect holidays, do not expect to be able to live a comfortable life and and not be subjugated. They want to change because now us as European people
We're hard to deal with for elites. We want good money. We want good jobs. We want a good salary. We want holiday. We want maternity pay. We want good conditions. All of these things. The elites don't want us to want these things. They want slaves. So they're going to come and they're going to replace us with slaves so that the European elites can rule us like they ruled third world countries, which is purely by force. I mean, we've seen that. Sir, we've seen this in Europe already.
We've seen this in many countries. I won't say Romania because I have enough problems here.
But we've seen it in France and Germany and Britain and other countries where they rule with force. They will overthrow an election in some of these countries. And when you try and complain, they just get the goons out and they get the sticks out and they beat you. This is what they want. Following your argument, Putin...
is a far more powerful leader than Trump.
Yes.
So, following your argument, Trump wants to be himself.
Right?
Supreme Leader to be as powerful as Putin is in Russia. Correct.
Correct? Yeah, I would argue that every single leader, every single government is marching towards some form of communism so they can have absolute power. I think this is natural and normal, yes. I would say Trump is slightly different because Trump's a good person who's trying to restore the old America that he grew up in. I would say that Trump is slightly different from that regard. However, if you were to say to any right-wing leader or any left-wing leader, do you want absolute power?
I think they would all say, well, yeah, if you give me absolute power, I can do better for the country, which again is arguable. Perhaps they could, perhaps they couldn't. But my point is there's different avenues towards doing this. A right wing leader will say, if you give me nationalism,
If we have a unified hegemony amongst the population, and we're nationalist, and we all believe in Romania, and you all believe in me, then I will get to be the leader, and people will listen to me, and I will fix it. Liberals will say another way around. The left will say, if we replace all of the people who care about politics, who care about living standards, who care about wages, with slave people from the third world who just shut up and do as they're told, we now get to be in charge, rule with force, steal as much as we want. I'll ask you a question, and this is a very simple question.
If politicians in Romania steal,
Do any of the Nepalese people we've brought in here complain?
Or do only the Romanians complain? Okay, so if you wanted to steal, who would you want to be walking on the streets? Nepalese, Indians, Bangladeshi, so you can just steal.
This is what they want to do. They don't want Romanians who are upset and unhappy. But in time they will become Romanians. So they will? I'm not sure because it's taken millions of years
It's taken thousands of years for the Dacians to become Romanians. It took a very long time with a very long and complicated history for people who were inside of Romania to become Romanians. And even those who were in Brasov are not the same as those who were in Constanta. There was a big difference. To believe that people could come from Nepal and just become Romanian is an interesting argument because this argument is the argument that Western countries uphold. They say...
If you were born here, you're from here. You're an American, no matter what color you are. And I'm American. If you-- no matter what color you are, you're born here, you're American. Britain says the same thing. But not all countries think this way. If I say to you, imagine an American--
Olympic team.
you'd imagine different colors, a black person, a white person. If I say imagine a Chinese Olympic team,
You'd imagine Chinese people, only Chinese people,
There are many countries which prioritize hegemony.
over
globalism and there's pros and cons i'm not saying i'm just pointing out the obvious i'm not saying that vietnamese will become romanian like romanian but in time they will have the same
Requests or the same standards. But speaking of history-- And then they'll get replaced again.
In history, we meet figures.
of very powerful leaders who didn't want
More power and more power. One of the best example is George Washington. George Washington resigned. He could be king.
That's a word that you like. George Washington resigned. You saw his resignation letter? No, I've never read it. You should go when you go to the States. He resigned. He said, it's enough for me. Now we deliver the power to the people. Beautiful. And he was a very big fan of Cincinnatus. Do you know Cincinnatus? Okay. Cincinnatus was in Roman. And he was called...
to resolve difficult problems. And he could stay in power because everybody wants him to stay in power. And he resigned. And George Washington was a big plan of Cincinnati. I know Washington resigned. I know Washington was a good man. Trump is also a good man. But if we're going to have this conversation truthfully, then we have to actually analyze something else. This is not about political power.
This is about the true power behind the politics, which is the globalist power. So my point is this.
The reason the European elites are trying to replace Romanians with third worlders isn't just about who gets voted in. It's not just about politicians. It's about something far more important than that. It's about the banks. It's about the media. It's about all the people who are in charge of the important systems that we don't know their names and they are not voted for. The shadow elites. It is the banking systems and the banking cartels and the IMF and all these other people who want to replace Romanians with third worlders. And they don't care who the president is. It doesn't matter who the president is.
who are prepared to be slaves, they're going to get richer anyway.
to make a world without the banking system?
No, I don't think we should have a role without a banking system. What I think we should do is have a role with accountability. I think it would be very good that if we're going to live in a democratic country for us to know who our actual leader is.
And I think if you actually analyze politics in most countries, not just Romania, America,
England, Germany, France, all of them. It's not the president who's making the decisions. We just saw this in America with Joe Biden. Do you think he made decisions for the last four years? Because America ran just fine. So who was in charge of all of this? Because it wasn't him. He can't even talk.
So somebody else was in charge. And when you start to understand who these people are and what their objectives are, then you start to understand why certain things are happening to Western populations. And then you start to understand why people who talk about it, like me, catch criminal cases all of a sudden. Do you think Trump was making the decision in his first term? I think he, I think Trump was inexperienced in his first term and I think he underestimated his enemy.
and that's why they hit him with the Russiagate and all this garbage, and they slowed him down, and they hit him with all this crap.
But I like to think this time round he's going to be far more ruthless. But he's fighting an extremely large monster. We're talking about George Soros, one man. That's nothing compared to the IMF. That's nothing compared to the EU. That's nothing compared to NATO. That's nothing compared to the banking cartels. That's nothing compared to the Rothschilds. There's nothing compared to this. On the flip side to that coin,
We don't want the president to become a dictator, right?
Well,
That's a good question, and that's a good point, because there's a lot of countries which thrive under dictatorship.
Uh...
Define thrive. Well, it depends. That is the luck of the draw of who your dictator is.
Right? No. Yeah, of course. Because I value
freedom above all. Is there freedom in Romania?
Well, um...
Depends
What
easier to compare with
Okay, well, I tell you, I'm a person who talks his mind and speaks his truth, and I get arrested. There's a lot of people who made TikToks about the election, and they got arrested. Is there freedom in Romania?
Well, um...
absolute freedom, the ideal freedom,
- Doesn't exist. - Freedom doesn't exist anywhere. This is my point. This is... Absolute freedom. This striving under the dictatorship
Of course, United Arab Emirates.
United Arab Emirates. Dubai, the richest city in the world, has one king. He's been charged since the beginning. But you didn't choose Dubai. You chose Romania. Of course. Well, I've been stuck here for a while. Let's see where I end up when this is all over. But this is an example-- You are not stuck here. You choose. I chose at the beginning. Yes. It's a free choice. Of course. You are free to make that choice. Absolutely.
But this is an example of a country that had a dictator. Now, I'm not saying dictators are better, because dictators are luck of the draw. You can get a bad dictator and be worse. You can get a good dictator and be better. Putin saved Russia. Russia is in a much better position now than when Putin take power. I think he's increased the wealth of the average person six times over. He's done a fantastic job for Russia and Russians. When he got hold of Russia, it wasn't even a global power. And he restored it all himself, one man. Dictators can do amazing things because they have absolute power, but they can also do heinous things. How do you know that?
the the Russian how good is now economically this is statistical this is easy this is very easy to measure this is statistically in a country ruled by a dictator so you trust their statistics yes really not because it's not their statistics the IMF themselves have published statistics that shows when Putin took power the average income in Russia was some of the lowest in the world in line with Yemen and now they're considered in law in line with most of Eastern Europe in fact we have
These statistics can be read and interpreted in what way you want.
I'm skeptical about this well-being in Russia. Well, here's the point I'm making. I mean, I've been to Moscow many times. It's a big, beautiful city, and there's plenty of money.
But here's the point I'm making.
I'm not advocating for dictatorship at all.
I'm just having a conversation and saying that. Because I was under the impression that you do so. I was saying that if you have a dictator,
You know who your boss is.
If you have a democracy, you don't know who your boss is.
And the difference is this.
If you have a dictator, he, whether he does good or bad, is accountable.
You know who the boss is in Russia, so you know who to be mad at or happy with. In other countries, in democratic countries, you can be very upset with things that are happening, and you can vote against them, and everyone can say don't do it, and the politicians on the news can say don't do it, and everyone can say we're not going to do this, and then it still happens. Why? Because who's the actual ruler? We don't know who's in charge of Romania. Nobody knows. If...
We can guess. But... We can guess, yeah.
If
The United States were not a democracy.
Trump would have been president.
Well, it's a good, I mean, when you have, what's the point of an election in the first place? The whole point of a democracy, the whole idea behind it is to avoid power struggles and war. That's the whole point behind it. Otherwise you have huge infighting and civil wars and problems when dictators die or get replaced. Would Trump have become?
President, I don't know who the dictator of America would be. I don't know. Is Trump now currently the most powerful man in America? No, but people vote for Trump. Yes. And Trump was elected president. Yes. This is a democracy. If it is not a democracy,
Who knows? And in 2020, people voted for Trump. And he was not the president. So why was this? So you're certain that elections in the United States were stolen? Yes.
Fact.
How can you prove that? No, it's not about proof. No, no. A fact is based on proofs. OK, I can sit here and we can talk about the fact that-- The opinions are free. Sure, sure. The facts stand on proofs.
It's widely accepted now that 2020 was a stolen election. This is widely accepted. We can talk about the fact that the election took three weeks to count instead of one day as normal. We can talk about the fact that people have now been prosecuted and gone to jail for rigging the election. We can talk about the fact they did mail-in voting for the first time ever. We can talk about the fact that the graphs statistically show there was dump boxes of votes dumped in this machine in the middle of the night. We can go through all this. My point is that. Of course.
So, but my point is this.
My point is, if we're going to talk about true democracy, if we're actually going to start having these conversations,
You have to go then behind the curtain once again saying, OK, democracy is based on you get the person you vote for. And then you have to sit and be smart enough to analyze
Well, in any of these democratic countries,
Do you even get the person you vote for?
I mean, I don't know. You tell me, because there seems to be a lot of countries where there's very strange results all the time, and strange things happen. How many strange results? You don't seem to get the person. Sir, I have to be careful what I say, or they're going to put me back in jail.
My point is there are a lot of countries in Europe
where you don't get the man you vote for. And you have to sit here and go, well, I thought this was a democracy. It turns out it wasn't. So if it's not a democracy, it's still a dictatorship. But the difference between a dictatorship is,
We don't know who our dictator is.
Let's shift then from Europe
to United States to not be in trouble.
How's Ron doing? Ron, ah, Mr. DeSantis. How's Ron doing? Yeah, he's doing okay. We spoke. It's all handled. Ah, you spoke with Ron DeSantis? Yeah, it's all fixed. Yeah? Yeah. So the...
But general attorney, Florida general attorney, is not after you. Nah. Well, I mean, he can be after me if he wants. I'm not afraid of being investigated, because I've done nothing wrong. But I think that he was hijacked by the media, and the media instantly started asking him questions, and he was unaware of the situation and didn't know what to say.
and he made something big out of something that should have been very small.
But there's no crimes I've committed anywhere in the world, especially not in Florida. So if the attorney general wants to investigate me, I have absolutely no problem with that. I welcome his investigation and I welcome the conclusion. Well, I heard your argument that Trump has a criminal record, which is the president of the United States.
Don't. You don't have a criminal record. Not yet, no. I'm doing my best, but they're shooting bullets at me. I keep seeing the Matrix of them, but they keep coming. I don't know.
Romania did a very good job of making up garbage. So the metrics is this globalist
uh...
construction, right? This is the matrix that you're talking about, right? Well, think how hard
Let's actually talk about this. Let's be smart. How hard... But we'll get back to run. Sure.
How hard do you have to PSYOP
The average man.
to watch his country fall apart around him
work a job and give half of his money to a government who steal it,
Be in love with a wife who doesn't listen to him.
and spend his whole life
Miserable, depressed, paying taxes till he dies.
This takes a lot of work. This is the Matrix. There's a whole lot of energy that is constantly being pushed in the direction of trying to destroy the masculine desire to protect his land. You sound like the mankind was all sunshine and rainbows. But the Matrix came and destroyed the general happiness.
This... Absolutely not. Heaven that was on Earth. No. That history was... I mean, this, I think, this is the best time of mankind. Completely agree. Of humankind. Completely agree with you. Because mankind is humankind. Completely agree with you. And I would argue...
that the matrix was constructed
If we look at the modern civilized society we live in,
It was constructed to make Europe a peaceful place post World War II.
And it did a good job, but all systems become corrupted now. And I don't think it's-- If you were born 100 years ago.
50 years of life, my life would be worse.
you would maybe, you wouldn't be a millionaire.
Perhaps you're probably right. But that doesn't mean that we're not living in a lie now.
That doesn't mean that the people in charge are not abusing the systems now. That doesn't mean I shouldn't look for truth now. That doesn't mean I'm just a simple man who believes I should get what I'm offered.
If the systems tell me I can vote,
I expect my vote to count.
or tell me I can't vote and tell me I'm in a dictatorship. I don't like-- the matrix is a lie. The matrix is saying you can vote,
But you can. This is the problem. If your vote wouldn't count,
Trump will not be president. Well, in 2020 it didn't count.
And then they...
He did such a fantastic job.
In 2024,
that they couldn't manage to rig it and stop him this time.
But last time they did stop him. And when they stopped him, they tried very hard to put him in jail. So it turns out that perhaps, yes, by God's grace, he dodged two bullets.
By God's grace, he dodged bullets, and they couldn't get him in jail, and he won by 90%. So when they rig it and they cheat, they didn't cheat enough. Yes.
But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't be interested in who's trying to shoot him,
Who's rigging the elections? Who was trying to put him in jail? We still need to care about these things. And all I'm saying about the matrix is I'm not saying the world is horrible. I'm not saying the world was any better before. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that there's a lot of people going through life today not realizing that they are living in a lie and that the world they have been told doesn't exist and that all of the things we're supposed to believe in, democratic institutions, financial institutions, educational institutions, healthcare institutions, all of these things are
wrong.
with looking for truth and understanding that. Sure, it's more comfortable
It's more comfortable for me to sit here and go, ah, my vote counts and the vote's fair, and I go to school and they teach me good things, and I pay my taxes and they don't steal the money.
But that's not true.
So I would rather just live in a world of truth.
that we need to have accountability for responsibility. So if we're going to have people in charge, we need to know who they are. Accountability. We need to know who they are. That's all I'm asking. Accountability a little bit later. But so tell me some details about the Ron conversation. You call him. He calls you. What happened? I have to be careful what I say. But it was a large misunderstanding from--
what I gather, the media hijacked him and
He also wasn't aware I was an American citizen at the time. And once he realized I was an American-- Yeah, I don't think so. I think he thought I was a random Romanian with a criminal record. And then he found out I was an American who had never been convicted.
I mean, Andrew? I don't know.
I don't know. This is what I've heard. Andrew sounds British. Yeah. Andrew, but yeah. This is what I've heard.
And
There was a knee jerk reaction and there was some media sensationalism, like with all things involving media, there's media sensationalism.
But from what I understand, there's no personal problem between Ron and I.
And it's all going to fade to nothing, just like the Romania case did. However, in America, when things fade to nothing, you don't get put in jail. They don't insult you on the news. They don't lock you in your house for a year and a half. They don't steal all your money. They don't steal all your cars. So it turns out that when America fades to nothing, it's a far freer country than Romania, unfortunately, because my cases here faded to nothing, and they've destroyed my life for absolutely no reason.
Well, United States greatest democracy in the world.
So I'm not challenging that.
Well, I mean, it's not perfect. No country is. But it seems that when it comes to individual rights and liberties...
says, I trust justice.
more than pardoning
the wife relatives. Well, yeah, I mean-- It's a Biden reference. Of course. Yeah, I was about to say he pardoned a whole bunch of people with auto pen. I guess the argument is whether he pardoned them at all, because it was done with an auto pen. It was done with a machine. So it wasn't even him, which is my point. So here's the real question.
Who
Who signed those pardons?
It wasn't Biden. Who was it? So you think-- Why can't we find out who it was? I mean, somebody else pardoned
brother of
Biden's wife? - Of course.
Why? Why not?
- Why not? - Because that person's gonna talk. - Why not pardon me? - Well, 'cause that person's gonna talk.
You either have to kill them or pardon them. Otherwise, that person is going to roll over and squeal. The relatives of the wife are very old.
and
Of course. What is the point in that? Because they're an entire crime syndicate, and if you have the power to pardon people, you pardon as many people as possible to avoid leaving any loose links.
or people are gonna end up talking in a police interview. If you don't pardon one guy, he's the guy who's gonna sit down and explain the whole scam.
But the fact that those pardons are made by Autopen
They weren't signed by Joe Biden himself. He wasn't even capable of signing the piece of paper, because he's so senile. They just put it in a computer and printed it out. My question is, who did that?
Who did that? Because it turns out that for four years, America, the largest democracy in the world, as you just said, the beacon of truth,
had a false election with someone who's in charge of the country,
who wasn't voted in and had no brain, and we had people who we don't know in charge of everything.
So we need to actually sit down and analyze. And once you start to understand the intelligence agencies, these other kind of people, who's actually running things-- Just for the record, I don't agree with you
uh
I mean, I will not say percents, but I don't agree with you with these etiquettes that you put on Biden. Because Biden was very, very decent and very, on a lot of moments.
in his leadership.
don't that's me with this scene I'll that's fine I'm sorry I repeated no problem that's absolutely no problem and I would argue that Biden had absolutely no control over any of the decisions he was making Biden was told what to do Biden was put up there because he's a puppet because he's an old man who's semi-senile and the people who are truly in charge of the of America want him there as a puppet that's all he was there for it seemed pretty pretty hard to move him from being a candidate
- Well, I'm sure-- - Took a lot of time and a lot of struggle back in the United States to move him from the position of candidate. - Well, I mean-- - Which he fairly won.
By vote. Yeah, he won by vote. That's right. And then Kamala, who was not voted, was put up as the candidate. She was not voted. That's right. Which, once again, is not democracy, right?
Well, procedures are important also. You can run a country by referendum all the time.
it will be in a zone very dangerous.
some very dangerous people in the history had this idea with we'll run by referendums. We'll make referendums. We'll ask the people nonstop what they want and we'll rule by that. These are not practical and dangerous ideas. But
And procedures in democracy are also important, in my view. I don't know if I'm speaking very good. I know exactly what you're saying, but this is my point. We have America in 2020. They rigged the election. In 2024, they tried to put up the same puppet as before so they can continue to just steal from the American people, which is why Elon Musk is discovering trillions of stolen dollars. They wanted to put Joe Biden in charge so they could steal. They realized the American public wouldn't accept Joe Biden. So then they broke Democratic protocol, just like they did in 2020. And they put Kamala in, which is against the rules.
and I'm saying, doesn't anyone want to know who these people are?
I think it'd be good to know their names.
Well, I know a name. Donald Trump.
Do you met Donald Trump?
I have to be careful what I say.
You keep saying that. So just be careful. I am being careful. But Donald Trump, I'm a huge fan of him, and I think he's the best hope for the Western world. I think the Western world, as we know, it would be over.
THE WESTERN WORLD AS WE KNOW IT WOULD BE OVER IF DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T WIN.
So let's all be thankful that he did.
Because Donald Trump is one of the few people in the position to run for president who loves his country more than he loves power and more than he loves money and more than he loves stealing.
And that's very rare. You need to have a competent nationalist in charge of your country. He truly believes America is the best place in the world. He truly wants America to be like the America he grew up in. What people from the Trump administration do you met?
In this life, not now in Florida. I know I've met lots of very influential people.
No, I've never met Elon Musk.
Not yet.
But I've met very influential people, yes. But a lot of these meetings take place in a way where you have to be careful what you say, of course.
And I understand there's also currently some stigma attached to my name. So if I admit to meeting anybody, they're going to try and attack the person with the fact that I have bullshit criminal charges here in Romania. So we have to get a lot of things cleared up before my meetings are in public.
Also, you have in the UK, right? Some criminal charges. I've never been charged in the UK. I think they want to question me in the UK.
Oh, that's it. No criminal charges. I've never been charged.
But maybe when I get there they'll charge me. Because they want custody. Yeah. I mean when I get there they might charge me. They might ask me questions and let me go. I don't know.
Of course, the UK is doing the same thing with all European nations, because they don't like people who talk. When you tell the truth, they come for you. So you still want to be the Prime Minister of the UK? I love England.
And England needs saving. England is collapsing now in real time. It has a huge-- What do you mean? It has a huge problem with crime.
Only 30% of London is British. Most are foreigners, which is soon coming to Bucharest.
you're not going to recognize any of the people you grew up around.
It has a huge problem with drugs.
There's stabbings on the street every day. The health care is down the drain. The standard of living is down the drain. People are poorer than they've ever been. Taxes are higher than they've ever been. I want to try and fix the country I grew up in, because I love England, yes.
So it was a real and serious intention that you will
run, I don't know, in the future? Absolutely, England
as a nation is going to cease to exist. So you trust democracy?
Well, are you running for a post?
Right? For the prime minister? He's trusting democracy. Well, the only alternative is... I mean, you can run in Russia. Because we all know what will happen to you if you want to run in Russia. Well, if you try and run in France, look, Le Pen, they put you in jail. If you try and run in another Eastern European nation, like here, they cancel the election. If you try and run in other places, the same thing happens. So we can talk about Russia. We can talk about Russia, but this is the same in every country around the world. Who's in jail in France? Marine Le Pen.
is looking at jail no one's talking about it it's nothing he's not no uh he's not in jail
Macron's government depends on Marine Le Pen's votes. Marine Le Pen is facing sentencing six days from now and looking at a jail sentence and a ban from running because she was about to win the presidential election. Donald Trump they just tried to put in jail because he was about to win the presidential election. When I run for prime minister in the UK they're going to try and put me in jail. In Russia maybe they'd shoot you, maybe.
but they'd probably still put you in jail. It's the same here. We're no better than them.
We just pretend we are because we talk about democracy. You say I believe in democracy because I want to run for the post.
We, I don't know, we, Europe, we, United Kingdom, we are not better
for democracy than Russia? Really?
Do you know how many people were arrested for posts on social media in Russia last year?
No. 380. Do you know how many people were arrested for posts on social media in England last year?
No. Over 4,000.
So where are you allowed to speak? Well, I'm sure that Russian
Russian will not post anything
which will
with the deranged Putin. You know,
I'm sure they will-- I will-- I know what you're about to say. I know what you're going to say. I should be very careful what I post. I understand. To quote you. Great. So let's go back to the original point.
So here's the original point. You can't compare the convictions and you say, oh, it's freedom of speech in Russia. No, because everybody knows and nobody will contradict Putin in any way. Of course. But this goes back to the point I just said.
In Russia, you know who your boss is.
In England, you don't know who your boss is. They tell you, you can talk, no problem. But then you try and talk, and you can't. Then you get arrested. So nothing is clear. This is the point. In democracies, it's a tyranny, and we're hiding behind this garbage veil of freedom. Now, this is what I'm pointing out. In England, if they were to say, you cannot insult Keir Starmer, we would know the rules. But we don't do that. We say, you can say whatever you want, but then you do it, and you get in trouble. But people in jail, that you say they're in jail in the UK.
What are they posting about?
usually about immigration, mass migration, because this is the goal of the globalists. And if you try and complain about too many foreigners coming to your country, they'll quickly put you in jail. Okay, so who's the boss of
Immigration.
Well, usually global entities.
So you said global entities put
People from UK in jail.
Global entities put pressure on the government or they ensure that the people who get into government comply with them following your argument so you know you what the who the boss is in the United Kingdom well not really because those people are not accountable you cannot point to a name
I mean, if you're gonna have Keir Starmer, but he's gonna be put in and backed by global entities, which are shadow cartels of banking finance,
I mean, Keir's not in charge of anything. Keir's taking orders. You don't know who those people are, and you can't vote for them, and you can't get rid of them. You can't vote them in. You can't vote them out. You can't tell them what to do. So it doesn't matter who you vote for because they always have control over them. It doesn't matter.
Which is the whole point that democracy is a setup. For you to say to me what you just said, which is a good point, you're saying, well, you believe in democracy because you want to run for the post of prime minister in England. The only alternative to that is violent overthrow.
The only alternative is like 1989, Romania, where people finally had enough. And you pick up AK-47s. I don't believe in violence. I believe I can run and win. And the difference between me and the other people is, when the shadow cartels try and tell me what to do, I'll say no.
But of course, this is very risky because this is what Trump did. And this is why you get in trouble.
But I'm already in trouble. So let's assume that you will be prime minister in United Kingdom. Yep. Let's assume.
you expect
to some global entities to
come to you 100% to give you orders of course right orders or convince or influence or conversations yes but influence is something normal
even in democracies. I mean, Trump tried.
Bye.
economic politics to influence... - 100%.
Europe, of course.
Where is the line?
Well, it's a good question, where's the line? It's a very good question, where's the line? Because all of these lines are subjective.
for me to answer this, it's a very good question. - What is your line? - Well, no one knows what a line is and the line moves.
So we'll talk about in certain countries they'll say, ah, this person is not allowed to be president because he used social media. But then the other people get to use mainstream media. So where is the line? So the whole thing is garbage, right? So I agree with you, where's the line?
But that's influence, which is one thing.
The other thing is blackmail.
These global entities control the media, right? So they can control your voting numbers. They control your polling numbers. They control how you're seeing the media. The reason the media constantly talk bad about Trump in his first term is because he didn't listen. If he listened to the people who own the newspapers, the newspapers would say good things about him. But he didn't listen to the people who own the newspapers, so they only say bad things about him. So there's also-- we talk about influence, yes, but there's also a huge degree of blackmail when all of the media companies in the world are owned by four or five people, and they expect the politicians to listen to them. Otherwise, they're going to be completely slagged. OK, so the media is bad. The internet is good?
I wouldn't say it's about media good and internet
INTERNET GOOD AND MEDIA BAD.
I'm saying that the media is more centralized.
And the internet is more decentralized. So it's easier to have one narrative on mainstream media than it is on the internet. This is the only thing I'm saying.
This is recently true. The internet was heavily censored up until three or four years ago, but Elon bought Twitter. But talking about accountability.
You mentioned accountability several times in this conversation. On mainstream media or
classical media. I think there is
a degree of accountability.
In internet,
There is.
Well, who is the mainstream media accountable to?
Well, institutions.
Institutions, that's right. And those institutions are- And you can't run a country without institution. You want to be prime minister. That's an institution. Of course. And institutions are funded and institutions have objectives and they have goals. And that means that the media is going to push the objectives and goals of the institutions. It's not going to push the truth, which means the media is propaganda. If the institutions are democratic and generated by vote, democratic vote, I mean, that's life. That's-
That's how you run a state. That's the country function. Yeah, completely. If the institutions are completely 100% pure and democratic, then the media would be telling the truth. But we have learnt across the last 10 years that the media often doesn't tell the truth. So they're not telling the truth? Oh my God.
We're talking about the media. I'm about to talk about the internet in a second.
But the media's primary objective, from what I understand, and you work in media, you might know more than me. What is the truth? Well, first, let me-- There are a lot of versions of the truth-- That's right. --which can coexist. Of course. --can be true. 100%. Yeah. 100%. The truth is not the divine truth. 100%.
I agree with you. I'm just trying to explain... What is true for me may be false for you and can function in this world. Completely.
My view of the media-- I just want to finish this point--
My view of the media, you just confirmed.
The media has to report to an institution.
The goal of the media is to perpetuate the ideals of the institution. The ideals of the institution, as you just said, what is truth, may not be true.
So,
For example,
If a country wanted to go to war,
It is impossible to believe that an institution which is in charge of war is going to compete internally with its institutions that's in charge of the media. Why would your right arm fight your left arm? They wouldn't. If a country wants to go to war, it will instruct its institution in charge of its media to convince the people at home that it's good to go to war, even if it's not true.
The media is not about truth. The media is about pushing the ideas that the institution needs the government to push. The media is propaganda, which is why we saw during COVID all it has been was a massive lie, trying to scare people into staying in their houses for no reason, because the institutions told them to. It wasn't about truth. The media is not about truth. Now, the Internet.
The truth, in my view, the truth about the COVID
is not
black or white
No truth is. It has a lot of nuances. No truth is.
No truth is black and white.
But I think we can agree that the media exaggerated
Can we agree with that? Talking about everyone dying every five minutes, I think we can talk about exaggeration. I mean, I ignored the whole COVID thing. I didn't get the vaccine. I didn't wear a mask. I ignored it every day. I went out every day. I didn't see a single sick person. Yeah, but you are tall, brown, sexy, and rich. That's true. Not everybody is like that. Of course.
I knew people that died from COVID. - And I'm sorry to hear that. - And I had COVID. And for me, it was pretty bad. And I don't get sick often. That's my truth. - I believe you and I understand it. I'm saying that if you were an alien,
and you were watching the news,
from outer space and you didn't see Earth during COVID,
you'd expect there to be bodies everywhere. And then when you come down here, you see, ah, everyone's fine. Everything's normal. This was at the beginning. You didn't knew.
At the beginning, who knew? You knew at the beginning? Yes.
I'll tell you how.
- Should I tell you? - Yeah, please. It's actually a funny story.
On the first day
where Romania was talking about lockdowns. Yeah.
the first day
My brother and I sat down and we said, if this disease can kill us,
two military-aged males in perfect physical condition, then the world is over.
There's no point even hiding. If people like us die, not the old people, but if young, strong men like us are going to die from this, there's no point even hiding. So we Googled which countries are open. Sweden and Belarus were open, no restrictions. We flew to Sweden from here on a Wizz Air flight, my brother and I and three other Romanian guys, workers. We flew to Sweden. We got there. And let me tell you something. While Romania was having a panic, while Romania was having a panic for the first three months. Why didn't you flew to Belarus? Well, that's a good question, because I was actually there a year before, which is another story. Okay. But. Oh, you were in Belarus.
Belarus, yeah.
But,
When we got to Sweden, what was interesting
The next four months while Romania was panicking, when no one could leave their house, when you had to have the piece of paper in case the police stopped you, when you had to wear the mask, when you had to have the vaccine, all these things,
was wide open. No one talks about this. No restrictions, no vaccines, no masks, nothing. Nightclubs, parties, everything normal. Nobody's out. MALE SPEAKER: He treated me like that? Say again? MALE SPEAKER: He treated me like that?
Look it up. Sweden, which no one talks about, was normal the entire time. I lived there. And I put it on the internet. And guess what happened when I put it on the internet? They deleted my account.
Why? Why can't I show Sweden and people in a cafe? Why? What's the problem? Because the institutions in charge of the media don't like counter-nery. This is why. Excuse me, where they deleted your account? Twitter.
So it's not on mainstream media? No, well, Twitter--
Well, okay, so here's the interesting thing. Exactly. So we're going to go into the point about the internet now because we've discussed the media. Okay.
The internet is freer now because Trump has won.
and Elon bought Twitter.
Before this, before Trump won, before Elon bought Twitter,
Twitter itself
and Facebook and Meta and everything was under the same control of the same institutions which run the mainstream media. So Jack Dorsey,
Mark Zuckerberg, all of these people who ran these
websites.
had knocks on the door from people in black suits who came and said, "Hi, we're here to influence you. If you don't delete the things we don't like, you're going to go to jail." And this is what happened. I'm forbidden on Facebook, I think, for...
Four years now. What did you post?
Well, nothing outrageous. Well, you must have offended somebody. Well, I offended a lot of people in my time. So we start to learn that on different scales.
- Yes. - On sliding scales, no democracy is truly democratic. Some are better than others.
But truthfully, they're all a different, varying form of tyranny. Would we agree?
Which is fine. I'm not here anti-democracy. Any form of democracy I think is better than tyranny.
Of course.
But we'd like to try our very best, because if you do not maintain something--
then it's going to break, right? If you have a car and you don't service it and change your oil and try and fix it, it's going to break. You know something about that, right? Yeah, I know about car music. So if you live in a democracy and you want it to stay democratic... No, I was talking about the Koenigsegg. No, me too, but this is my point. If you maintain a car, if you want it to work,
So to maintain democracy, it's very important. The work you just described, opposing the president, what the leader of this
channel did is extremely important. This is God's work. Because if you want a democracy to work, you have to constantly maintain it. And you maintain democracy via opposing viewpoints. If you don't have opposing viewpoints and opposing points of view and opposing political spectrums, you don't have a democracy. So it's actually extremely important that people do that. He's done a fantastic thing and everyone who works here has done a fantastic thing. And I believe I'm doing a great thing by talking the truth.
If I don't say anything, and if nobody ever says anything, then there's just going to be an absolute wave of one political spectrum which results in tyranny. So it's extremely important that people stand up and talk and make it clear we understand how the world really works. So let's continue to somehow opposing
each other in this conversation.
I'm seeing you
talking
Preaching.
- Thank you.
OK.
about
a world that you're in.
I mean, you're in a fight, you're in a war,
against what you say is a globalist
a system, a matrix, right? Which you want to
Defeat. I don't know if I can defeat it, but I'm going to do my best, yes.
Okay.
Um...
Let's talk now about the accountability.
Because I hear you and see you speaking about fighting, about war,
about defeating, about... I never...
Here you're speaking about love.
And I don't mean love like in these cheap American movies. I love you. I love you too, which is like nothing. No.
I'm speaking about something a lot more profound than this. I don't hear you speaking about that. Well, I do talk about that.
And it's actually interesting that you say this because
Why would you go to war?
against anything.
unless you love something else.
This is the whole point.
If you go to war, if I'm going to go to war against
Serbia
It's because I love Romania. You can't go to war without love. So I understand what you're saying, but the fact that-- - You can go to war without love. - No, you're fighting for something, everybody is.
And my point is that what am I fighting for? You can say that, oh, I'm obsessed with war and fighting the Matrix. Maybe I just love freedom.
Maybe I love my children.
Maybe I love the idea of them growing up in a world where they're not lied to. Maybe I love the idea of them being able to make their own choices. So I'm full of love. RICARDO BOLOV: You made your money on the internet, because you sell courses, you sell-- right?
I have an online university. Okay, an online university.
You speak there about love.
about empathy ever
Of course.
Yeah, and I can send you thousands of videos of me doing this because I believe a man needs to love his family and love his country. I mean, even what we were just talking about earlier is love.
All things can be framed alternatively, right? So people may watch this interview and say, "Andrew dislikes people from
Bangladesh.
Whereas other people will say, "Andrew loves Romania."
There's two sides of the same coin. There's no black without white. There's no yin without yang. If I'm talking about something I dislike, I'm still talking about love because I love the other side of it. So I mean, it depends how I frame it.
But yeah, I mean, I love my family. I love the idea of us all being told the truth. I love the idea of evil people not being able to manipulate us and steal our money. I love the idea of true democracy. I love the idea of being able to carve out my own destiny. I love these things.
So I'm going to complain about other things. And it's not because I'm full of hate, it's because I'm full of love.
You don't fight.
unless you're full of love. The patriots in Ukraine and Russia right now, on both sides, both of them love their countries. And that's the saddest thing about the deaths, because both of them are full of love for their countries. You can say he's full of hate because he's killing people, or you can say he's full of love for his native country. So I think this is just a simple reframe, because men like me who risk our lives,
and go to jail.
and deal with persecution very much. So I think that any man who's standing up for what he believes in, any man in a fight is full of love and empathy. This is what I truthfully do. I feel like I'm full of love. And it's this love that motivates me.
Well, let me rephrase that.
So
You expect that I will ask you about the
the series on the netflix right
Which one? Adolescents. I haven't watched it. I watched it because I was preparing for this interview and I watched it. It's terrible.
Yeah? Yeah.
I can imagine. It's propaganda.
This is propaganda by the UK government.
Well...
It's also true somehow. What part's true?
Well, that
This world
that we're living in is
a lot
change from it
It was, and the kids?
are very, very influenced by internet.
and see the things that they see on Instagram, on Facebook.
on social media
can influence them 100%.
We can talk a lot about the
classical media and his flaws and it's okay
What? Internet
has no accountability.
of
Can be freedom, exist freedom without accountability?
about responsibility.
Well, before we do this, I think we need to highlight an important point about adolescence, which is a massive PSYOP. Which you didn't saw.
I have never seen, but I've seen a trailer of it to know this.
that they are going to pretend, the British government and the globalists, are going to pretend that little white English boys are stabbing people at 13 because of what they saw on the Internet, when that's not true. There have been a multitude of killers in England of the age of 13, and all of them were black immigrants, all. So what they're going to do is, this is a psyop, this is a trick, they're letting in people from the third world who are committing crime, and then they're going to blame the native people for the crime. You sound like all immigrants are bad.
.
I'm not saying all immigrants. I'm an immigrant.
I'm half black and I'm in Romania. - America was made by immigrants. - Of course, but what I'm saying is, if you're gonna put together a propaganda series on Netflix and talk about 13 year olds killing,
and make them white English people who saw things on the internet when the truth is in England the only people at 13 who are killing are foreigners who are arriving on a boat. This is not true. This is a psyop. This is an attempt to influence the public and distract, distract from the actual issue and try and deflect it onto something else. This is not honesty. This is not integrity. I understand your theme but this movie is not about an immigrant boy. It was a...
No, but it's based on a true story, and the true story was of an immigrant boy who'd never even watched anything on the internet. He didn't even speak English, but he picked up a knife and stabbed people and killed them. This is the point. Let me ask you a question. Let me put it in another frame for you, please.
Let's imagine one of the drivers in Bucharest rapes a girl. Yeah? And he's from Bangladesh or wherever. And he rapes a girl. And then let's imagine that Netflix Romania wants to talk about this story to erase awareness. And in the story, it's a Romanian man who likes to read about the Dacians and Dracula, and he rapes girls. And then they start saying, oh, these Romanians are obsessed with Vlad Tepes. This is making them crazy and they're raping girls. You'd sit and say, whoa, whoa, that's not what happened. This has nothing to do with the Romanian man. It's nothing to do with vampires. It's to do with this guy coming in from the third
world where he was not used to being around women, and he lost control. So this is what the British government has done. They have swapped the actual problem for another problem to try and confuse the population at home into accepting the endless and unchecked immigration and removing people talking about it on the internet, because if you talk about the internet, you're labeled dangerous, and they try and put you in jail. This is a psychological operation. It is a psyop. This is a psyop, sir. But...
But this manosphere is a concept of yours? I don't know what this is. You don't know. No. It's not related with you. Nothing to do with me.
I'm just a man who says his opinions.
Yeah, but this concept of 80-20, you know what this is about? That 80% of...
women, once only 20% of men are desirable for women-- Well, I'd argue that's true, but I don't know what that's got to do with me. I didn't program women.
I mean, I would argue that's true. Nobody programmed women. I mean, no. This is not the issue. So this is not your concept,
preaching with-- I mean, there's a lot of people on the internet who talk about lots of different things. There's a lot of feminists,
who talk about feminine ideals and feminine imperatives.
And then there's a counterculture. There's a lot of men who try and talk about the masculine life and the masculine point of view.
Sure, this exists.
Am I in charge of it? No. Did I create it? No. Am I part of it? I mean, maybe. Sometimes I talk about cars. Sometimes I talk about dating. So maybe sometimes I'm part of it. Sometimes I'm not. I don't know. Do 80% of women want 20% of men?
Yeah, probably. But I also-- but the fact-- We can debate that, but I was--
Just asking if it's a concept that you promote.
that some kids
adolescents, okay, 13, 14 years old,
maybe finds himself in the perception, true or false, that he's not desirable, that he's not good enough, that he's not an alpha male, he's a boy, that he's ugly, that girls will not like him.
and start building some frustration.
because of that.
You understand?
I mean, there's many ways I can answer that question.
Firstly, there's no documented history of anybody doing that
purely based on--
videos on the internet and causing crimes. As I've just said, the only documented history was because of mass migration.
And Romania is going to soon experience the effects of mass migration, because they're already doing it in Bucharest. You're soon going to see Andrew Tate was right.
But that's the first thing to say. The second thing to say is,
uh...
Anything I've ever said about men and how accountable we are, I do from a very motivational point of view. So if I were to say that,
women only want the top 20% of men, I wouldn't say give up and quit. I'd say go become the top 20%. Go get rich. Go train. Go get strong. So I'd motivate. If I were to say those things--
Thirdly,
But not 80% of men, which are not
The rest of the 20%
They have relationships. They are married. They meet women. Okay, then who cares what I say?
Well, a lot of people seems to care. I mean, a lot of kids...
young people seems to care about-- I've never heard-- by the way, I've never heard this before. This before, OK. OK, so-- but I'm just-- I'm just-- no, of course. I'm just talking.
I don't think that telling a young man who's 14, 15 years old
that women love winners so go become a winner is a bad message i mean some may say it is some may say no you should tell him to go and be a normal man and have a normal life well i'm not a normal man i don't have a normal life i don't know how to tell people how to have a normal life i've never lived one i have an exceptional life and i've worked very hard and i train all the time and i dedicate myself and it's and it's and it sucks it's struggle it's difficult but i do it anyway and that's what i'm going to tell my sons and any young man who listens to me that you need to go
Well, then you lost.
So.
You lost, I mean, that's fine. This makes you a bad person or a...
I'm not saying it makes you a bad person. I'm saying that the masculine world
the male world we live in if we want to be honest can we all be like oh i don't know how many billions of men are on the planet can we all be winners no because to be a winner the most can we all be alpha males of course but the but the point i'm making
It's disingenuous.
for us to pretend that the masculine world is not competitive
Would you argue that men live in constant competition with each other?
No, everybody is living in competition with each other. So women compete for how pretty they are?
and men compete for how powerful and competent and useful they are. And a lot of this comes down to status and money. And this is human nature, and this is not Andrew Tate's fault.
This is how the Aztecs lived with a feather in their hair. This is how the Native Americans lived, with scalps of their enemies. This is how the Congolese lived when the Zulu were conquering. This is how the ancient Europeans lived with their castles. Some men won, some men didn't. Life's been a constant and endless competition.
It built the modern world, by the way. The reason men built long, big skyscrapers or explored unknown lands was to win, to be the first man to go to Antarctica, the first man to build a skyscraper. Trump is president because he wanted to win. The masculine imperative is to win. It is disingenuous for anyone to sit and tell young men that they're going to be successful in this world if they don't try their very best all of the time to endlessly outcompete everyone else, because it's a competition. But winning is not all.
in life.
I mean, in my opinion, I mean, one of my problems
with Trump.
is that he
see the world and
his actions are, that like he see the world through, how to say this on the computer, tabelelelele.
um
Tabelle.
- Excel. - Okay.
You understand? - Yeah. He measured the world. - Yeah.
politics
and diplomacy and everything like an Excel.
which
For me, this is a problem. Why? Because the world can't be measured
by an Excel is far more complicated than that. But would you argue Trump's a winner?
No, he is. No, of course not. So Trump's the winner, right? Yeah. All right, so don't you want a winner in charge of a country if you want the country to win?
It was
Ronald Reagan a winner?
I think so. Well, he has a lot of empathy.
- I mean-- - He have a lot of love
like
generally speaking not love you know a lot of love yeah genuine I mean you can see that and he was not obsessed with winning
Everybody loved reggae in that era. Because of that.
So I think empathy is also important. Of course empathy is important. And if you don't win,
your
Nothing. No, you are very important
If you're not a winner. 100%. And you can't win all the time. Of course. You can't win all the time. Tell me about it. That's unnatural. I've lost endless times.
I mean, I'm not saying you win all the time.
And I'm not saying that empathy is not important.
All I'm trying to say is that the world, especially the masculine world, is one large, endless competition. And if you want to win a game,
you need to at least play it.
You can pretend there's no competition, but then you're not going to win. If you wake up and realize that the car you want, other men want. The woman you want, other men want. The house you want, other men want. The job you want, other men want. The followers you want, other men want. When you realize this, you're like, okay, now I know the competition. Let me go try and win. If you're going to sit and say, well, I don't believe there's a competition, that's fine. But you're not going to win anything. If someone were to say to me, Andrew, how do I get rich? I'd say, well, then you have to understand that all the money you're trying to make, other people are trying to make.
You need to be more competitive. You need to be better than they are. You need to try harder. You need to wake up earlier. You need to dedicate yourself. And if they say to me, I don't want to do that, so I'm going to lose, I'm going to say, OK, then you're a loser. Go lose. Here's the next man who wants to win. And then when he wins, people are going to ask him how he did it. And I'm going to say, because he played the game. This is the game. Let me rephrase that. Sure. So what do you say about the most important competition
is not with the others, but with yourself.
Well, I guess we all have different standards for ourselves, don't we? We all have different standards of what we expect out of ourselves.
Absolutely. And I would argue
Okay?
that um
That is the truest test of all because I think most people probably
have what they believe they deserve, right? If you really want to lose weight, for example,
If you believe and you really truly want it in your heart, then you'll lose weight.
If you say you want to, and then you kind of do a little bit, then you don't really want it. But if you really want it, you will.
So I guess the competition with yourself is whatever makes you happy at night. If you can be obese so you don't fit in a chair,
and you can still sleep.
at night without shame,
well then you're gonna be obese. But if you're like me, who wants to be in good shape all the time or I will not feel good about myself,
that I will not be fat. So the competition against yourself is never-ending and this reflects your entire life. One of my problems with
Wokeism.
is this cancel culture concept.
Thank you.
Me, I think,
Culture is--
Extremely important for a person.
and the guy
far more intelligent than me, not
not that you but than me it uh it said that the most direct path
to yourself
It's a detour.
And I think this detour is cultural.
You have to speak about culture on your academy. You instruct young men not only to do push-ups, not only to be competitive with other men, not only
Things about society and success in terms of money, women, whatever, fame, whatever the criteria is.
Do you have an instructor?
young men
to
to
uh...
be cultural? I like your questions because I can answer them a bunch of different ways. The first answer is that we have a
global platform, so it's difficult to do when you have people from Peru and Panama and all these different countries.
We have countries all around the world.
However, the second way I can answer that question-- SPEAKER 1: And we have some brilliant writers. SPEAKER 1: I'm sure. The second way I can answer that question is that--
We promote a masculine culture, and the masculine culture is universal across time and space,
Stoicism and strength has always been respected amongst every culture since the dawn of human time, everywhere.
Strong men were respected, and being strong was good.
everywhere for men always. So we do promote that culture. Yep, a culture of strong.
What do you mean strong?
strong
Physically, strong financially, strong... Well, these are all very important things. I mean, if I last night I listened to the
second concert, piano concert, the Trakmaninov. Am I strong? I think I am. Of course. But... I mean, in my team are Shakespeare. Yeah, absolutely. And Beethoven. Of course.
When I say strong, I mean capable
Right? CAPABLE. CAPABLE of dealing with problems. As a man, you're judged by your capability. I'll give you-- let me ask this question.
If your wife comes to you and says, we have a problem,
And you say, "I don't know."
She said, "What do you mean you don't know? You're my husband. Fix it."
Right? So she expects you to be able to fix her problems, because this is your job as a man.
This is strength, right? So as a man, we are judged by
And it's not a problem. I'm just saying, as a man, we are judged by how capable we are. People come to us with problems, and they expect us to fix them all of the time. This is our job. So strength is being able to fix those problems. Strength is being able to get up every day and go to work so you have money to take care of your family. Strength is being able to protect your family. Yes, physically, sometimes, perhaps. Strength is being able to have a strong enough body to have a strong enough mind and a strong enough bank to afford enough lawyers to not end up in jail forever in Romania when your matrix is attacked. Strength is lots of different things. The bottom line of it is capability.
I think my English is not helping me to make a very good point in the direction that I intend.
So let me rephrase.
Of course, Tate brothers--
are strong.
Okay, yeah.
But
So, um...
All strong.
Tate brothers are strong.
I think also
Karamazov brothers
are very strong also. - Of course. And they are very important.
Yes.
I'm not saying that strength means it's not a...
I'm trying to use simple English, but it's not a-- I understand your-- It's not a binary. It doesn't mean-- I can't speak what I understand. Yeah, it doesn't mean that one is so one is not.
I'm not saying that. What I'm trying to say is that the culture we promote inside of my university is one of strength. So we don't promote no matter where the man is from on the planet. We're not going to allow him to feel sorry for himself. He's not going to wake up depressed. He's not going to be sad. He's not going to wait for money to come from the sky. He's going to wake up and think I have to, as a man, dedicate myself and find it and work hard. I understand that. This is the culture. Karamazov Brothers is a novel.
is a very important novel of Dostoevsky, one of the greatest books ever written. And it's real culture. So that's the direction I'm moving in my question. If you promote to the young generation,
to love art
to read books.
to listen to real music, not this
- Mambo Jumbo. - Yeah.
crazy stuff, which is only entertainment. I mean, there is a difference, in my view, essential between culture and entertainment.
Big difference. So that's the direction I was asking you. I understand the school of university.com. We primarily teach people how to make money and get rich. However,
We do teach people to, of course, once they get money, to take care of people they care about, and take care of their families, and take care of those they love, and take care of their country. And I think culture can start at that level. Culture can start at, I'm a man.
who has a family.
and I love my family, and then I take care of my house. And that means that other people take care of their houses. So now we have a nice street, and a nice street, and a nice town, which is a nice town and a nice country. I think it starts at the nucleus of the man dedicating himself to something. So culture starts at 50?
I don't think it's about age. I think that... Me neither. Yeah, no. And culture shapes society, but I'm just saying that
for anything to exist in the
I don't agree with culture.
is not shaping society. Because if culture will--
would have shaped society, I think we had a better society than we have.
Culture has changed, which is the problem.
And this is why society has changed.
Let me rephrase. So, in my opinion, no matter how much money you have, not you, a person, one, have and how many houses, how many whatever, this...
of success, okay? But if you never listen,
Let's take an example.
the fifth piano concert of Beethoven, The Imperial, you're poor.
Yeah, and I understand it. I respect it.
I'm not anti-culture in any way.
And I'm just trying to prove the point, I'm just trying to make the point that
inside of the school,
what we teach is we don't talk about a particular book we don't talk about a particular song we don't talk about those things we try and instill the hard work methodology we want people to stop having tick tock brain and to focus and dedicate themselves and try and be successful and one of the greatest things about being a winner
is that
If you dedicate yourself and you really work hard at something, you appreciate
other people who work hard at things. So I think that if you find a man like yourself, who's a dedicated career man, who's very successful, you appreciate the work of others. And you appreciate the work of Beethoven, as do I, as does anyone who dedicates himself. Whereas if you find a man who never dedicates himself and never tries hard, never works hard, he probably won't appreciate Beethoven, because he will not appreciate the amount of work that went into it. Which, by the way, Beethoven was not lucky that we are.
He didn't have the same luck because he can't listen to his music. He was deaf.
Yeah. Truly wild. Yeah. OK, I should ask you, you know, it is coming, the question about the misogyny. Oh, sure.
I mean, yeah, you can ask, no problem.
uh...
you speak i i watched this podcast of yours with um
Patrick B. Davies.
And you speak about your children, about how you educate them,
prepare them for life.
how you deal with women in your life and with women in in general so um
for me, and is not a critic.
perception which is maybe not true
I mean, my perception may be that also you look at this
Family
equation, which is always
very complex.
Of course. Always very complex.
maybe the most complex equation of all, through...
What do you call it?
Tabel XL.
Like Trump, huh? Like Trump. Like Trump's... Very mathematical. Yes, but very arithmetical. I mean, and...
for me
is more complex than that.
So
Can you describe a little how you see
education for your kids, how you educate your kids.
Yeah. If he's not too personal. Of course. And I understand what you're saying about me looking at things very mathematically.
I was in the... I finished the Mathematic University. Ah, okay. Okay. So...
I don't think that's a bad thing. I think it's a man's job to be ultra logical.
I think that the emotional side is--
more the woman's job and it's the man's side to be ultra logical about these things.
uh
How I educate my children is going to be different. My boys will be educated differently than my girls. My girls, my primary objective is for them to be happy.
I just want my girls to be happy. What does that mean? Well, I just want them to smile and enjoy their life and be happy. I feel like their beauty
is going to be in their happiness and their joy for life and their emotionality.
Whereas my sons, I want them to be capable. I don't care if they're happy as much. I don't care if my boy's happy. I care that he can do good things.
Yeah, I want him to be capable. I don't care if he's happy because being as a man, you shouldn't wake up trying to be happy. You should wake up trying to be capable. They're different things.
Happiness.
Happiness is for women.
happiness, when we speak about women, happiness comes from
beauty? I think happiness comes from a degree of naivety and innocence.
I think it's far easier for a woman to be happy because she gets to live in a semi-dream world.
But if you're a man who's seen the harsh realities of Earth, it's far more difficult to be happy.
I think. This is just my view. And also... I met a lot of very capable women. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Very capable women and they take care of themselves and take care of others and their families. Of course.
But I'm saying that women, I think happiness is for children and for women primarily as an objective to life.
I think a woman wakes up wanting to be happy. I don't know men who wake up wanting to be happy. We wake up wanting to do things we want to achieve. We don't want to be happy.
The women I know wake up and say, I want to be happy today. The men I know wake up and say, I want to get rich today. I'm like, well, what if getting rich is hard and you become unhappy while you get rich? I don't care. I want to be rich. So I'll struggle. I don't care.
We have different mentalities towards life. Is this the supreme value for a man, to be rich? Not just be rich. Be rich, be a fighter, be a rock climber. I say money because money is easy to measure. It's numbers. But you can do anything. You can dedicate yourself to anything. Beethoven, was Beethoven happy?
I bet he wasn't. I bet he was neurotic. I bet he was constantly upset. I bet he was angry all the time. I bet he was mad at God that he couldn't hear. But look at the amazing work he did. The men we remember from history were not happy men. If I were to say to you, name a man from history who was happy, you can't. Genghis Khan wasn't happy. Alexander the Great wasn't happy. Beethoven wasn't happy. Napoleon wasn't happy. Winston Churchill wasn't happy. Nobody who ever achieved anything important enough to be in the history books was ever happy. As a man, you could be,
- It was-- - It was--
any people happy. It is happiness
possible in life? Well, this is a good question, but I would argue... Because nobody can escape tragedy of life. Of course. And malevolence and all that. And emotions change.
And of course-- --it would be naive to think that happiness is a state-- Yeah, of mind.
But that you're permanently in. Yeah, of course, and emotions change. My point is--
And the point I'm making-- And it's a naive-- I think it's a naive destination to be happy. Of course it is. Because it's infantile. But the point I'm making-- Which is OK, because people are supposed to be happy.
Well, I don't know if men are supposed to be happy. That's another conversation. I don't think men are supposed to be happy at all. I don't know. Five-year-old kids are not men. Well, this is what I said. Happiness is for women and children.
But this is the point, because we're talking about misogyny.
In my life experience, when I meet a woman who is truly feminine,
She's very happy.
And when I meet a man who's truly masculine, he's not that happy.
I don't think happiness and masculinity are the same thing. What age have these women that are happy? Say again?
Zeke, what age do they have, these women that are happy? 22, 23, 24, 25?
- Okay. - I'm just saying that
femininity and happiness.
60?
My grandma was pretty happy, yeah. But my granddad was in a bad mood. I mean, I think that-- I don't think that happiness is to end destination for men. I think we find what we optimize for. This is what I'm saying. If I say to you--
go outside and look for red cars, you'll see lots of red cars. If I say go outside and look for blue cars, you'll see lots of blue cars. There's the same number, but you get what you look for. And I think that women are more programmed to look for happiness and beauty, which is why men like them. I like when my girl says, "Stop, look, a flower."
Come on, flower. Because I'll never do that. And my male friends and my brother will never do that. A woman will do that. So I like that. But that's what her mind looks for. A man doesn't look for happiness. A man looks for danger. A man looks for opportunity. A man looks for-- he has other things in the way of happy. I understand your point. But I'm glad that you make this example with a flower. Because I never heard you.
We use that example. You always talk about mention,
Bentley
Horses. But a flower. A flower is beautiful.
The flower is beautiful. And money is not everything at all. I mean, I'm not a person who was born with money or born rich. I'm not a person who was raised in a rich family and thinks that money is everything.
Money is only the stored time and energy of other people. That's all it is. You can use it to get other people's energy and time. It's a mechanism. It's a resource. It's a tool, like a hammer. It's not be all and end all.
why do men-- why are some men obsessed with it? Because it gives them--
capability to do things, and men want to feel useful.
This is why I think some men are obsessed with it. Women want to feel happy and men want to feel useful. And I think they're different things. And that's the basis behind our unity.
That women can find a man who is useful, who can provide for them, protect them, build them a house, look after them. And a man can find a woman who is happy. So he gets to be happy because he gets to be with a happy person all the time. And if she's always happy, he's always happy. So this is our beautiful unison. And I'm called a misogynist because I believe that.
that we do different jobs and we're a perfect team. Whereas the feminists say no, a woman can do everything a man can do, and a man can do everything a woman can do.
You're right. There are some women who build their houses, who make their money.
who run their life and don't wait for a guy to just provide for them. 100%.
100%.
I'm not saying that they don't exist.
I knew women
that are driving better than you.
I don't know about that.
Don't know about that, that's impossible. That's impossible, call me a misogynist.
The point I'm making,
OF COURSE.
It's not that exceptions don't disprove the rule. I'm not saying that there's not some women who do not wake up every day and ignore their own happiness, so they can be as capable as possible. Some women do that.
But in general, I wouldn't argue that's the case. And there are some men who ignore being useful to chase being happy.
But,
You know, society hates these men, by the way. Other men hate them and women hate them. We hate man children.
If you find a man who's still a child, and he just only cares about stupid shit and drinking, we hate these people.
We cannot pretend it's a virtue because everyone hates a man-child. But these people do exist, of course. It's a spectrum. But in general,
The best masculine men forget their own happiness, so they can be capable, and the most feminine women,
Chase happiness and we work together as a team and we do different jobs. This is how you have the happiest families where you have big capable masculine men with very feminine happy women.
Okay, but let's assume that we are not in a...
broadcast. When you meet with your
friends, male friends, because you said
You meet only male friends. - I don't have any female friends. And you're not going into dates.
Knights, or I don't know.
What are you talking with them about?
Only money and success and push-ups? No, not only.
I don't think so.
I think it's a varying array of things. It depends what friend I meet.
But, um,
I mean, my friends are capable people. We have similar interests.
So we're very interested in many things.
all political or financially orientated or fitness or training or boxing or cars or whatever we do. We are interested in these things and we like to talk about them. Opera? Opera? Me personally? No. No. Opera? I don't know. Maybe you would speak with them?
I don't know about Richard III.
Which is a major-- - Well, we talk about history a lot, because we think that history is a fantastic way to predict the future.
So we talk about history at length.
And culture is obviously a huge part of that.
So we talk about history all of the time.
But the primary objective for my friend group, once again, is not to be happy. I don't have friends to laugh with. I don't have friends to smile with and just be happy.
I have friends so that I can be useful to them, and they can be useful to me. Well, Shakespeare didn't wrote the Richard III
to make people happy, I'm sure.
I'm sure. - Wow, there you go. And I don't think Vivaldi made his entire work to make people happy. He just made it. By the way, Vivaldi died hunger.
and he was poor all his life.
And
he all
Most of his work
was valued, discovered and valued
after his death. - Ironic. - But he did it anyway.
at a major level. - It was true passion. Beautiful. - So he didn't have money, he didn't have success. There are composers in the time with a lot of money and success, like Franz Liszt. - Of course. - Vivaldi was poor, he works in a hospital for kids in Venice, and he died hungry in Vienna. - Wow. - Yeah.
But he did a very great--
a great
Service.
Service to the world. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And everyone does service. And everyone does service to the world at some level.
Everyone does. A bus driver does service to the world.
We all do service to the world. It's not all about money. Of course it's not. But we all do service to the world.
he still do. He's dead like
300 years?
And he still does service to the world, which is--
Well,
Exceeds. Well, let's talk about that. Yeah, let's talk about that. Isn't that the masculine...
Imperative, isn't that the end goal of all men to be remembered after they're gone? I mean, what else are you alive for?
That's why you have kids.
That's why you have a career. That's why you build things. That's why you dedicate yourself. That's why you become a champion of boxing or whatever. I mean, the reason men do things is to be remembered when they're gone. And I think perhaps one of the best ways to measure men is
how much, how long will they be remembered for when they're gone? I mean, that's a fantastic way to measure. How do you think you'll be remembered? Well, I'm sure there'll be some people who misunderstand me because there's people who misunderstand me right now when I'm alive.
I would like to think I would be remembered.
I like to think I left a mark.
I think that it's only going to be a certain amount of time before everyone realizes I was right.
Of course I think that, but everyone thinks that.
But,
Whether I'm remembered positively or negatively, I will be remembered.
I like to think, which is, I guess, good.
But I think that's the end goal of all men. Isn't that the baseline masculine instinct?
just
legacy.
I mean, isn't the whole point of being a man to try and become the king and then give the kingdom to your son? Isn't that what it's always been about? I don't know.
I don't know if this is the point of mankind
to be a king and left a legacy. I don't know.
Me neither. I don't know. But I think that...
the men who do think that way,
who think I need to become the king and I need to give the kingdom to my son.
I don't think they're happy men.
I don't think Genghis Khan was happy.
I don't think happiness-- you talked about the man, Vivaldi, who did the amazing work.
And he was poor.
He had a lot of suffering in his soul, and you can hear it in the music, which is why it's so beautiful.
And I don't think that happiness is contingent to achieving great things as a man. In fact, I would argue that pain and suffering makes you a better man.
I think men are made of pain. I think the more pain you go through, the better you are as a man. You're David Goggins now. Well, no, it's true. Yeah. No, it is. It's true. Like, if you have a man who grows up from the age of 10 to the age of 30, and nothing bad happens to him,
He's still an idiot.
Every single lesson you've ever learned as a man, you've learned the hard way.
Every single scar you carry makes you stronger.
And I think that as a man, pain and suffering is the best thing that can ever possibly happen to you. So if you find the most capable man who can do the most amazing things,
they've had the most pain because that turned them into the man they are, and they gave up on happiness a long time ago.
So I don't think that men are supposed to even be happy. I don't think happiness crosses my mind. I'm not happy or sad, ever.
It doesn't matter if I'm in the current in the day. It doesn't matter if I'm in jail. I'm the same. It doesn't change. But what are your demons? You have demons.
Well... Because you have darkness. Of course, everyone does, yeah.
Of course. What are your demons? Well, I mean...
You could argue that I'm never satisfied with anything, but this is also a positive because it means that you achieve amazing things because you're insatiable.
Could argue that.
I don't think I'm a bad person. I don't have a criminal record. I don't hurt people.
I give a lot of money to charity.
I try and tell the truth all the time.
I wouldn't say I'm a bad person.
but there are people who would say I'm a bad person because they would watch adolescence and they would believe that it's my fault.
and they're idiots. They're not very smart. You know what John Gotti said about telling the truth? What? You know John Gotti, about John Gotti. John Gotti said,
I always tell the truth.
because people who lie are afraid of something. I'm not afraid of anything." Absolutely. That's what he said. Okay, so you try to tell the truth all the time.
you
were telling the truth in this show?
Yeah, of course, the whole way through. Now, I'm going to answer this truthfully.
I've told the truth in this show the whole way through. However, there are times I only told 80% of the truth.
It was still true. But I missed... But it's not about this 80/20. No, no. But I missed a part of the truth.
because then trouble would happen. But I did tell the truth.
So,
I'm not capable in
about your
criteria
I mean, I don't have a canning seg. This is not criteria, bro. I'm not rich. This doesn't matter.
But you said that matter. RASMUS KHAN: No, no, that's not what I said.
I said that everything in life is a constant and endless competition and you're going to get exactly what you want.
If you want different things, you have a lot of things I don't have, because those are the things you want. I'm sure if you woke up every day and wanted one of those cars, you'd have one. You probably don't want one very much. Or you might go, "Oh, that's nice, but it's not worth it." This is normal. But my point is, if you want something,
and you don't get it,
It's because you're not prepared to work for it in the competition to have it. And I only talk about money because it's an easy thing. It doesn't have to be money. It could be an education. It could be knowledge of culture. It could be, like you said, listening to Beethoven's Fifth Symphony. It could be so many things. But there are people who wake up and they want things, and they don't want to work for that thing, and then they expect God to just give them the thing, and that's not how the world works. We have to find what we want and get it. But let me finish the question. So I'm not rich. I don't have Koenigsegg.
Push-ups.
Well, I'm OK. OK, so, but let's
Imagine
that we are
I was in a cell before.
Let's imagine that we're in London. I was arrested in London by swat team.
Let's imagine that we are in a cell.
For I don't know how many hours? Not hours.
OK.
What are we talking about?
That's a good question.
meeting your criteria? Well, they're not my criteria.
I mean, most of my friends-- I mean, we'll stay silent.
No, I think that's false. - Hey, leave me alone. No, that's false. They're not my criteria to know somebody at all.
That's not true at all.
I know lots of people are all
levels of the economic bladder. And I was raised in a very poor family.
And my father never had any money. And I love my father and respect my father to the end of time. He was a chess master, right? He was a chess master, yeah. I mean, I've dedicated myself, and I have some of the things I want. But I don't have all the things I want. Nobody has all the things they want.
Elon Musk for sure doesn't have anything that he wants. Elon wants things he doesn't have.
So he wants things he doesn't have. So nobody's ever happy. This is not my criteria. If we met in a cell, I would treat you like an adult and a human. And if someone shows me respect, I always show them respect back.
I was in jail here in Romania with a whole bunch of people, some millionaires.
Some gypsy with no money. And I showed everybody respect. If you're nice to me, I'm nice to you. And everyone has a different life story and a different life path.
The things I talk about I believe are universal across consciousness. I believe
that
When I say you need to dedicate yourself and work hard to get something you want, I believe that's true.
That doesn't mean that if you don't have an expensive car, I don't like you. I'm just saying that if you really want an expensive car, you need to get up and dedicate yourself to get one. There's a lot of misunderstanding in the world now where people believe that
somehow they are owed something.
somehow they deserve it for no reason, or somehow they can pray or manifest their way to things, and this isn't true.
I believe that the universe
God, whatever you want to call it, is very giving.
and he'll give you exactly what you want.
once you show him that you're prepared to work for it. I have never seen somebody work for something and not get it. So I'm not saying that you must have a Kernan's egg.
I'm saying that you can have one if you want one.
If you wake up every day and think about it every day, and it's all you think about, you get one. If it's not, it's not. It was a movie, The Truth, that promote this-- you saw it? The Truth. I've never seen it, no. Oh, OK. Because it was in--
But it's about prioritization. If you prioritize time with your kids, you can't prioritize your work.
So there's an opportunity cost. You'll win one place, you'll lose somewhere else. This is life. You must design your life. You must design your life. So it's not about me. I want to make it very clear that-- and I want to make this clear, because this is important.
The last thing I am is a snob.
The last thing I am is a person who
only talks to people who have this kind of car these kind of things i am not this person i i am
friends with everybody. And I got along perfectly fine in jail with everybody. And I'm from Luton, a very poor town. I grew up very poor. I don't like...
Losers and when I say losers, I don't mean people without cars. I mean people who don't try and
I don't like losers, I don't like people who don't try.
If I see a man and he's like, oh, I don't want to work. I don't want to try. I just drink. Well, then I don't like you because you're an idiot.
So you're a winner because you try. You're a winner because you dedicate yourself. If you try and dedicate yourself
and failed
This is impossible.
No, this is impossible. Here's the secret of the universe nobody understands.
People say it's okay to fail if you try your best.
But the truth is, and this is the truth,
If you try your best, you never fail.
And this is the misunderstood secret of the universe. I'll give you an example.
I have never seen a man
who wakes up at six o'clock in the morning, goes to the gym and trains for two hours, seven days a week and eats protein and doesn't eat garbage and eats properly and dedicates himself ever. I've never seen that man still be fat ever.
It's biologically... - That's common sense. That doesn't mean that he will beat Schwarzenegger and win Mr. Olympia. No, no, but the point is, of course, I'm not saying he's going to be the best ever.
But he's not going to fail at being in good shape.
It's biologically impossible if he dedicates himself. I've also never seen a man who wakes up every day,
Pays attention to the internet, looking at all the different opportunities.
tries new things, talks to his friends about new ideas, joins my university, tries all the things inside, focuses, works hard, doesn't go on TikTok, doesn't get distracted, doesn't drink, dedicate himself, not get rich, never seen it. It's very easy to get exactly what you want if you try.
What you have is people who try
60%.
They try one day, then they miss a day. Then they try three days,
Then they miss a day. And then they say, I tried my best, but I still failed.
This isn't real. You didn't try your best because you missed a day. I have always tried my best, which is why I have everything I've ever tried to get. I don't have the things I didn't try to get, but I do have the things I did try to get. That's very American.
Well, perhaps-- - The speech is very American. - Well, America is the richest country in the world, and it's the strongest, most powerful country in the world. So you're right, it's very American. But this is the mentality. There's no such thing as trying your best and failing. That's not even true.
That's impossible. Depends on what goal you have. Well, let's analyze it from another way. Let's say... Because, yeah, in your example with the gym, yeah, of course. Okay, let's put it another way then. Let's say you try your best and fail. Let's say. Let's say you try your best to run against Usain Bolt, and he is faster, and you lose. And you try your best, and you failed.
but you didn't fail.
because you're stronger and you will be faster now after that run. So in competition with yourself, which we are talking
like half an hour ago. So you can't fail. So if you try your best. Now if you, if he jogs,
and doesn't try his best, he won't get faster.
Yeah, because you spoke half an hour ago about competition with others.
It's everything. It's competition with the universe, it's competition with the weather, it's competition with yourself, it's competition with others, it's competition, that's life.
So,
We are arriving at the
final of our discussion, but is something that
you
one answer and I didn't question you. So answer first you and I will question you later. Oh, sure.
No, I mean...
I enjoy these interviews, and--
I think you've asked some very interesting, thought-provoking questions that made me think.
And
There's not much more I wanted to say. I think that a lot of people are starting to wake up at home and realize that
There's a whole bunch of false narratives around certain people in the world, and I'm definitely one of them.
And my only goal and intention is to talk about the life I've lived. I can't talk about any other life. I can't talk about being anyone else. I've only ever been one man and lived one life.
And I've gone from
the ghetto to getting everything I've ever wanted, and all I do is talk about how to do that. Maybe that makes me look through
life.
like an Excel sheet. Maybe you said that. It's true. Probably I do look at life like an Excel sheet, but it's worked very well for me. So this is what I teach. And I hope that
Nobody copies me.
Because you should always be yourself.
but I can learn a little bit from you, and a little bit from them, and a little bit from this, and you can put it together and come up with the best version of yourself, and that's the goal. As a personal impression about this discussion we have,
You are not at all arrogant, and I expected to be. Because I saw you in other interviews and podcasts where my impression was, "Whoa!" I mean, this guy is a monument of arrogance. And I expected that today.
which I'm fine with because I have a lot of experience.
My impression
after this discussion is that
today you are
at all arrogant. Well thank you very much and that means a lot to me and
I'm sure I've definitely given that impression at times. I know I have.
But
It's important to stay humble and I think true arrogance is not understanding your position in the world. Like it doesn't matter what car you have. When you're in front of a judge, you're in front of a judge and this is life, right? So you have to know how to behave appropriately all the time. At the end of the life, we're supposed to be in front of a judge. We are. We certainly are. I just hope he's more fair than some of the other judges I've had. You said a word that I never imagined that you will say. I mean humble. So you are...
tall, brown, sexy, rich and humble. Of course.
Yeah, of course. I like to think I am. I think humbleness is the key to success because it allows you to understand
your weaknesses.
thoroughly.
And you need to understand your weaknesses thoroughly. And I certainly have some, and everybody does. And if you want to be successful, you have to not only understand your strengths, but you need to understand your weaknesses.
If you're not humble enough to identify them as weaknesses, you're going to lose.
Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
Thank you.
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