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like do you guys have female friends no it's pointless it's absolutely pointless to have a female friend because women get all the benefits of having platonic male friends the man gets nothing
And do you want to break that down a little bit about the stupidity of having female friends? Really? From a holistic perspective. Sure, from a holistic perspective. You don't want a female perspective or anything? No, no, no. I'll just tell you why, personally. You ask the men. I have zero female friends. That does not mean I'm not polite to women. It doesn't mean I'm not female acquaintances, right? It doesn't mean I can't meet all of you and say hello to you and see you on the street and say hello to you, etc. But the idea of having a female friend, someone I hang out with often, who is my friend and we're purely platonic, is garbage. Mm-hmm.
It's garbage because as a man, I'm spending 99% of my energy finding a sexual partner and any partner. No, but any partner of mine who I'm also having sex with, my girlfriend, my wife, whoever it may be, she is my friend. There's no benefit from female friendship outside of the friendship I'm going to get from my partner. Truthfully, it can really be the same the other way around. If you have a man and you truly love him and he's your guy, you shouldn't really need other dudes. That's the truth. You shouldn't.
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Myron said it perfectly. There is a massive amount of liability to me being friends with the chick. Let's say she's my friend, right? We've been friends. We talk spiritually.
For 10 years, I've been listening to her astrology bullshit in my ear, pretending I don't want to. I'm an Aries. I'm a Gemini. I'm a Satch. Oh, here we go. Guys, guys, guys, let me finish. For 10 years, I'm listening to this bullshit, pretending I don't want to fuck.
street some dude comes up snatches her bag what now i've now i have to risk my life to protect the bitch who doesn't even suck dick let me tell you if you're my female friend i'll be like look we're equal we're friends you better chase that motherfucker down oh you want me to protect or provide oh i'm a man i'm your man now oh i'm your man now this is the exact point right all these what women do and it's very very smart she said it herself and and i feel like we're picking on
herself that sounds like a great deal to me i'll take that i'll take that it absolutely is because it's exploitation now any man who allows himself to get any man who allows himself to get exploited deserves it he deserves it if you're stupid enough to sit there and go yeah you're it's taurus rising today maybe i could see some titty mad it's been four years please if you're stupid enough to get
Right. There's a difference between this. This these terms are thrown around a lot. Alpha male and beta male. Yeah. But if I meet a girl, let's say I want to come up to you on the street in order to talk to you. I would be talking to you with a pure intention. And my intention is pure. My intention is to try and take on a date. I would say you're absolutely beautiful. Really nice to meet you. I'd like to take on a date. You said I've got a man. I would say, OK, cool. You got a man. Nice to meet you. Goodbye. My intention is pure. It's not deceiving. Ninety nine percent of these dudes who are your friends are deceiving with their intentions.
a chick and move on, then sit there and go, well, if I pretend I'm her friend long enough and I jerk off over her Insta for long enough, I might pull it off when she's drunk. Because that's what they're fucking doing. It's coward beta male bullshit. It's for weak men who ain't got the balls to sit there. If you're dudes, whoever they are, they should sit with you and say, look, we need to fuck. And not in that... Okay, let me rephrase that. I've known you a long time. You're such a sweet young lady. All these other men don't treat you right. Why don't we go on a date? That sounds better. That sounds better. Okay, so that's
raised it. That's what they should say to you. And if you say no, then they should be like,
safe bounce because they shouldn't be there anymore so what they're doing is they're being they're not being pure with their intention and that is an act of cowardice and i think acts of cowardice are not something to be respected i think a man should be completely honest about his intention that doesn't make you a bad guy you're not a bad man to go up to a girl and say you're beautiful i want you to be my woman let's make you bad and then you're much worse to sit there and go i don't want to be your woman at all let's talk about astrology that's garbage it's
acquaintances yeah okay friends female friends yeah
Okay. Not really.
Barely.
I have more female friends than I have male friends. Okay.
not really like jade yeah i have my sisters yes okay i mean like no no i'm an only child i have female friends that are so two aren't yeah yeah i have a lot of female friends like real friends you can call up in the middle of the night yes yeah and they're gonna come pick me up okay i'll say it's even to be honest okay only her only her yeah okay so what i've come to realize from interviewing a lot of women is that they don't even have a lot of female friends so you guys
like women don't even want to be friends with women, but you guys want us to be friends with you guys. And it's like,
It's very difficult to deal with women. I'm gonna be honest with y'all like it really is So it's like if we're not fucking you guys, it's not our best interest to deal with you if I'm gonna be 1000% honest your feelings periods You know the drama my hair like it's it's really not in a man's best interest just like Andrew said like I
When you hang out with men, men offer utility a lot of the times. Women, like a girl be your female friend is still like, it kind of expect you to pay for shit or she's gonna expect you to step up in certain situations like if your bag gets stolen or whatever. She's gonna still expect...
a certain level of boyfriend energy or behavior, even if she's not having sex with you, which is fine. You guys are finessing like you should do it because let's flip the role. Let's say you guys came to my house every night. Right. And we had sex. I told you, all right, you got to go get the fuck out of here. And then you left.
And I never, ever, like, talked to you or asked you how your day was or anything. And we just solely had sex. And I told you to leave right after. Hey, sorry, you got to go.
How'd that make you feel?
Obviously she's coming back so she's agreeing with it, right? Yeah, but how would that make you feel long term? I mean, yous. Yous, right? That's exactly how men feel in the friend zone. It's just that when a guy uses a woman for sex, it's considered like fucked up. But if a girl uses a guy for friendship, no one bats an eye. But it's the same exact concept. If a man that uses a woman for sex is the same as a woman that uses a guy,
to be a friend because both parties are missing what they actually want. The woman wants attention and affection from the man, and the man wants sexual access. In both scenarios, you're missing – you're giving up your commodity without getting what you want in return. The girls want attention and affection but giving up sex, not getting it, right? And then the man is giving up attention and resources but not getting sex, which is what he wants from the woman. So it's a finesse. So it's in your best interest to have a guy. Can I ask you something? They're both accepting it, then it is what it is. Oh, he's not accepting it.
at a time with ulterior motives. Somebody has some? Yeah. Have you ever had like an open communication with a girl before?
Yes, which is why I don't have single friends. How open is open? Oh, very open.
We do it every night. Women can't take the truth, man. Okay, so what does that look like?
What do you mean? Like, what is the open communication for you guys look like?
Like me talking like you got to give me an example here like what like are you expressing this is what I want from you? What do you want from me?
Yes, and girls, like, here's the thing. I don't deal with a girl unless it's sexual in the first place. But I'm asking, what are you asking for? And what is she asking for in return? Like, what would the typical situation look like?
Well, I mean it's not like we just sit there and outline. Hey, well, you know what I want this I think that's the problem. I want this no because that see that's see Western bullshit like your contract that that sounds not Western bullshit No, because here's the thing Eastern plus we can sit here and say that like you can be completely honest sit down with your girl and tell her what's on your mind and
No, women are not equipped to handle the truth. You guys do not like the truth. That's a generalization. That is a generalization. I think that maybe that's what everybody's the same. More so than what that really is. Because I know a fair amount of people who can actually handle the truth, myself included. The point that Myron's making and the point we need to all accept is that the dating game is a subtle game, right? If I were to meet you and take you on a date, I would flirt with you, right? I would try and make it cool that I like you, but in a subtle way. I wouldn't be sitting there going, hey, met you five minutes ago.
I'm an honest guy. Let's lay down the contract here. I'm trying to bang. Like, like, it's just weird. That's not how the things work. Right. And what, when Myron saying is when he only talks to a girl, when he has sexual interest, his point is if he talks to you and he wants to take on a date, et cetera, he's flirting with you. He's making it obvious his intentions, but not in an overly creepy, overly contractual way. When you're saying, have you ever had an open dialogue, et cetera, et cetera. The reason we can't answer that question is because if we meet a woman and we want to come across charming and not come across like a weirdo, we're not going to sit there and start talking about this is my honest contractual agreement. I met you.
It's going to be like, you're up for the case. I've definitely had somebody say like, I want to have sex with you. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for making that very clear. Yes, I did. You did. But had you guys been speaking prior? Where did you know?
where's he now oh i let it go oh okay but here's the thing had you guys spoken prior was there a relationship established prior to that uh there was for a period of time that's the no no but then we actually had a falling out and then we became friends and very quickly oh friends made it clear friends then okay friends sure friends got back into communication and then that was
them prior. So that defeats the entire, what you're trying to say, because if a man meets a woman, if a man meets a woman off rip, and I come up to you at the nightclub and I'm like, listen,
I'm just trying to fornicate. I don't really care about what you got to say. I'm just trying to do this. You would look at me like, what the fuck? Like, oh, retard alert. And you leave. You ain't going to take me serious. Like men can't afford to be honest with women, man. They can't. They have to play the game. They got to harm you. They got to come in. They got to say things a certain way. That's how you'd be surprised. There's some women who actually. Yeah. Yeah. You want to get down differently. You have to understand there's somebody for everybody. So the same way you just want to be like, yeah, let's get down nasty.
- Okay, listen, listen. - There are people that are with it. - Exactly. - Thank you for your honesty. - Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. - That's fucking hard. - You can say that.
You can say that, but the minority of what you're describing is statistically insignificant. No, I agree. I really do. In other words, if there's 100 women,
97 of them are gonna say fuck off. I'm not smashing you weirdo. But those three say yes. Okay, but... *laughter* If there's a three... Okay, if I told you to jump out of a plane and your parachute has a 97% chance of not deploying, would you jump out the plane?
You're right. Exactly. So that's why we don't say that dumb shit to be honest with women, because it doesn't work. But lying. But then those aren't the women for you. And it's about the women who want it. If you want to have the best odds in your favor, right, like he's saying.
97% versus 3%.
Why am I going to test the water? So, you know what? Let me see. She's 1.3%. I can say, you know what? I can do a little finesse with it. So, you know what? This is a general statement. I want to take you out. I'm going to say up front. I want to smash you. I'm going to say in a nice, polite way. So I'm not going to turn you off.
And we can go from there. But for me to say that to your face and then you say, oh, hell no. I just wasted my time on your time. No, of course. But you could feel a girl. I don't think that's wasting your time, though, because if you get a direct answer, then you're not going to proceed. And keep wasting. To have dates and encounters. But what if you do take her on the date and then she maybe she's not initially interested, but she's like, OK, he's kind of cute or he got jewelry on. Maybe he has money or he drives a nice car, whatever. Then you take her on the date and she realizes, actually, he's kind of cool.
six months later it could be one day it could be six you don't know it's interesting what she said to us because
you actually end up
And it's great to have you on the panel. You're giving us a good storyline to discuss. But the storyline that you just told us about this dude and you bang this dude, whatever, whatever. You completely vindicated the point I was making. And I've been around the block, right? You can I know you girls don't know me.
I've been around. All right. So I know, I know the world. I know the game. I'm an old man. I'm the grandpa of the table. Right. So here's what happened in the scenarios you just described. I was friends with this guy.
Right. We ended up having a falling out.
The only reason male and female friends fall out is because the dude's pissed off he ain't fucked.
So they so they had a falling out because she got a new man.
She got a new man or she started dating someone or she rejected him and
got pissed off at them fuck. We got back in communication.
Right. So he said so. He came back to try again. Then he said to her, I just want to fuck. So he came back and did exactly what I said a man should do. Sit down and say, you're beautiful. We need to get this on. I'm tired of the game. And he got laid. So you just what you just did is after disagreeing with me for 20 minutes, it's just completely agree with me and prove me absolutely correct. So everything I've said so far is right. It's all right. Now, that man had more balls than all these other dudes who haven't said it yet.
but they all want to do the same respect to him he got what he wanted he had this you know what i can guarantee bro i can guarantee yeah he woke up the next he woke up the next day saying no more astrology thanks i'm tired of her spiritual i've seen the titties i'm done bounce so that's what he got what he wanted and he bounced all the bounce i bounced okay all the other guys all the other
That's a valid point. That's a very valid point. He got, he got what he wanted and she bounced. That's a very valid point, but it doesn't matter. He still got what he wanted. And my point is that guy was true to the intention that I laid out that a man should do and got what he wanted. The other dudes who you're saying are not like this guy who, cause he was your friend and he fucked, but all your other friends don't want to fuck just cause they're too pussy to lay it down. It's the same. It's the same. You need to accept that. Now the smartest thing a woman could say in your position is this, cause I've met some very clever girls.
I live in Eastern Europe, right? I live in Romania, Poland, Russia. These girls are the biggest finessers on the planet. These girls are the biggest finessers. You girls talk about finessing. Well, you're still getting fucked. So you ain't finessed, nothing. These girls are getting money. They're on a billionaire's boat. No one's touched them. That's finessing. The game's when they don't get what they want, right? You don't win. You don't win if a dude bangs you. Doesn't matter if you dump him, whatever. He banged you, he wins, right? So these finessers, they're smart because what they'll do is sit there and go, I have a bunch of male friends. They absolutely all want to fuck me.
know that and i exploit it no they won't be allowed to touch me they're not going to sit here and lie and pretend there's some spiritual connection because mars mars is in the rising moon some bullshit you're lying stop lying and just submit you got a bunch of dudes who want to bang you and you enjoy the attention just say on the just say on the podcast do you mind if i just first and foremost i'm not saying i have a bunch of dudes that give me attention because all of
Yeah.
Yeah.
Two friends that I have a very good foundation with. We don't speak on a daily basis. We don't speak on a weekly basis. Sometimes we don't even speak on a monthly basis. So it's not all this attention. Okay. That's an assumption. So they're not your friends then? Okay, then maybe they're not. They're acquaintances. I mean, shit.
brain's hurting i need vodka i need booze bro yo it's a waste christina bring the whole bed bowl we got we got jose here
Yo, yeah, no, Jose Rodriguez, 20 bucks. Guys, the main takeaway from that conversation is this.
Never allow a woman to put you in a friend zone. If she puts you in a friend zone, she don't respect you, she don't like you like that, go deal with another woman. It's not in your best interest to have female friends, it's stupid. If she's really your friend, she ain't gonna be upset that you're fucking someone harder than her. So don't worry about it. No, why not? You're right. That's for Andrew, that's right. Okay. I'm actually gonna be proud of you, I'm gonna say good for you. Okay. Good for fucking you. Yes. So, uh, where we at? Jose Rodriguez. Oh, Jose. Okay, shout out to the number one podcast in the world, Project K, Making History, Road to One Million.