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My favorite car is my... Let me give you some advice and nothing's gonna stop me.
My entire life has been tapestry of bad circumstances. Which of your hundred cars attracts the most women? I'll take that a step further.
There's nothing wrong with having a car in finance. You will stay broke if you don't look itchy. Bingo. And did you really buy like supercars for staff? Those cars were not mine. But hands off, it's a very important car. The Lada's fine. You guys don't see that clean on Ferraris? I don't know. Style man. Very exclusive club to have any type of spaghetti. What's the most amount of money you've made in one deal? Just the lump. Good healthy night. What happened on the track? A stone smashed the entire glass roof. That was a six figure repair.
the stories no one knows about. Call me crazy.
Tristan, does money make you happy?
Yeah, money can make you happy.
I think that money...
an analogy I once gave is that it's very much like
Alcohol.
in the way that if you are a sad, depressed, bitter person,
and you drink, you become the kind of guy that no one wants to be around. No one wants to be your friend. They see you having a few beers, they walk out the pub. However, if you're a happy, content, jovial person who's genuinely, you know, in and of himself, comfortable and happy with his life, if you drink, you actually become more fun to be around. And money is very much like that. If you are
If you understand what it is, it's an amplifier.
you see people who run into a bunch of money or make a bunch of money.
usually through music or acting, you know, these types of people, who become sad, depressed, suicidal, drug users,
There are people who run into money
when they come from
backgrounds like myself and they become rude to people. They're rude to staff, rude to waiters. They talk down to everybody. Well, they were always as sad,
arrogant, dislikable person, but they had to put on the mask of being nice and normal because, you know, they had to talk to people with respect because they were financially below them. So it does make you very happy if you're a happy person. And if you're a good person, it makes you a better person.
I've used that terminology before about
how money and alcohol is the same thing. There's no such thing as a bad drunk
you just get bad people and it exaggerates their personality. - Bingo. - Yeah. - You know, it's the same with money. If someone wants to be an asshole,
Now they've got more money than you, it gives them an excuse to be an asshole. Bingo. Yeah. And how does money make your life better?
Well, there's lots of ways. There's the obvious reasons, which is not why you sat down to speak to me, because I'm not going to give you the obvious answers. I like this.
giant penthouse I live in. I like my cars. I like my fine tailored suits. But the truth of the matter, it's little things that people kind of overlook. I mean, people
who live in England.
You know, they laugh at the Americans, like, oh, the Americans don't have a good healthcare system.
- Thank you.
And when you're rich, you look at the normal person living in England. I'm like, you think you have health care? Like, really? Seriously? You think you have health care? Whether it be, you know, my shoulder surgery or my mom's heart attack or, you know,
complications when children are born.
the idea that you can just
minimalize health risk and minimalize losing a loved one.
because you have the money to actually pay for proper healthcare and hospitals. I think that's
That's one of the best things about being rich. And people say stupid things like, well, money doesn't buy you health. I'm like, okay, maybe. But, you know, the wealthy live 10 to 15 years longer than
the poor. So in one way, it does buy you health. If you're on your deathbed in your terminal, it's not going to save you.
However, I think healthcare and the ability to take care of your family and your loved ones and
Sleep easy at night.
knowing that if anything bad happens to, you know, your mom or your dog, it's taken care of. And I think that's the most important thing money buys. Yeah, I'm writing a book at the moment called
financial education in the UK schools is bad. Non-existent almost. And I did my research and the top 1%
wealthy people live ten point something years longer than the bottom one percent wealthy people bingo
So getting into the top 1% statistically
is going to give you 10 years extra in your life. Exactly. And probably 20 years better. Because how many people are 50 with all sorts of statins and all sorts of pills? Yeah.
Like basically dying really slowly. Yeah, and there's there's types of I
I mean, real, honest, good work.
done by men that I have nothing but respect for, but there's actually a type of exercise. I'm not sure if you know this. Most exercise is good for you or beneficial. You can sprint, you can be a rower, you can be a boxer. But there's a type of exercise that's designated as toil.
And toil is just difficult enough to be hard on your joints and your muscles. You know, it might give you strong hands and strong arms, but also,
not beneficial enough to give you better cardiovascular health, etc. And these are things I'm talking about, like bricklaying, for example.
You can lay bricks, you know, 10 hours a day, every single day for your entire life. You may have strong forearms and strong hands, but the toil wears you down. And...
The ultra wealthy, I can't even off the top of my head name a single ultra wealthy person whose job involves any level of toil.
So that is for the people who don't have much money and have to do difficult things. And all respect to them, they built this building, they build the world.
You want to avoid it if you can.
Mm.
And how much money do you have?
Zero.
Zero. Hypothetically,
If I were to get married now,
and get divorced and the world's top financial auditors were trying to give my wife half of my net worth
technically,
That would be zero.
How much money do you control? Uh, some, a lot. Nine figures.
Wow. Yeah.
Nine figures, certainly. If you were to say, could I sell this house, sell this car, pull money out of this bank account, out of this crypto account, I'd say...
I don't control it, but the people who would do as I ask.
I think, yeah...
a good healthy nine figures.
And was it the whole thing with your arrest that forced you to move all the assets out of your name?
Who says I moved assets out of my name? I told you I'm Paul wrong. No, you know what? We've always been very careful even before that. We've always been very careful before that. I remember when...
when I did get arrested and some Bitcoin was seized by the Romanian police. It was like four or five Bitcoin at the time and a bunch of other...
Coins because it was seized from an exchange, and the exchange just basically handed it over.
because the exchange was KYC in my name. And people on the internet were like, ha ha, they got Tate's crypto. I'm like, you think that's my crypto?
That's just like the crap I'm buying, I'm trading and
changing coins are you i use it as like an exchange platform
But you think that was my crypto, this little bit they found on this exchange? So we were very careful before this. We're a lot more careful now.
Um
I mean, the first lot of cars they nicked for me. We got them all back now, but the first lot of cars they nicked, they held for over two and a half years. I bought some, actually. Yeah? Yeah, recently. You bought one of the cars I sent back to England. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bought the 812, the blue 812 Superfast. Very cool, very cool, yeah. I decided to get rid of... From your friend in Luton. Yeah, I decided to get rid of my British steering wheel cars and to, as I buy, just buy European drive, because I realized after the arrest that the odds of me ever being in England with anything expensive again...
for many reasons, not just because I don't trust the criminals, but I don't trust the government, is flat zero. So I thought, let's get rid of all the cars with the English, you know, with the English steering wheel set up. But they kept those for two and a half years. The second time they stole all my cars because the driveway was freshly replenished very shortly afterwards. They had to give them back 24 hours because those cars were
not mine, and I like it that way.
You know, if you wake up and you're living in an eight bedroom house and you walk outside and you have the keys to a Rolls Royce that you can jump in and drive around all the time.
Do you really care? Are you that egotistical?
to be like,
If someone were to say, well, that Rolls Royce isn't in your name. Some hater from the internet digs into the license plate and says, I can't find that the Tate's own that. It's on my driveway. My name is stitched into the seats. Clearly, it's my fucking car. You know what I mean? So I don't have an ego in that way where I need a financial auditor to calculate my net worth so I can wave it around on a piece of paper. I have everything a man could want. And I'm...
content with that.
I have similar situations sometimes where if, so like when I had the Pagani or the Bugatti or whatever, like it's not something I, when I had the Bugatti, I used it every day, but then I got three kids and then had the Pagani and used it less and less and less as the kids got older because you can't put three in one car and they're all crying to go in the car with you and whatever. So the car would sit there for months and months and months on end. And I'd take it out into London and then someone would put a photo on of me somewhere.
the car isn't even MOT'd. So someone's gone out their way to search my number plate to see if it's on finance.
When I first had my Bugatti, I had a statistic on HPI.
There was 10,000 people
within the space of three days, HPI my car. HPI is a search you do, see if a car's been crashed or on finance or whatever.
So they searched my card to see if it was on finance. They searched it to see if it's been MOT and you get some
prick in his mom's basement. The car isn't even MOT. You've become a member of HPI. You've paid a subscription to HPI my car to let me know it's not taxed. I don't care. You know, you know, you know, the best thing about that, actually, the best thing about that is this, because I had a very similar situation. Years ago, I decided to try to fix my British credit credit rating. I've given up now. I couldn't get an iPhone on like my credit rating is toast. But I decided to try to fix it. So when Andrew and I had about 12 13 cars, I had a very basic
Porsche 911, it was dark blue. That originally...
I paid it off, was bought on a finance agreement in my name. So at the time, me and Andrew had 10, 12 cars. People were checking that and going, "Ah, it's on finance. Ah, it's on finance." And
You know, there's the argument of, I could have said, because I don't have to explain myself to internet haters, and I didn't. But I could have said, like, oh, yeah, I did it to repair my credit rating. Please check my other cars. You'll see they're all paid for in cash. However...
I'll take that a step further.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a car on finance.
When some of these young guys who are 24, 25 years of age, if they're really killing it and making very decent money, let's say 10,000 pounds a month, if they're really doing well in life, and they decide that they want a Bentley,
I don't really think they should take $170,000 out of their savings account and buy it cash. I think that paying $2.5,000, $3,000 a month with a balloon payment at the end is...
in a lot of cases, a smarter financial decision, and he is still a 24, 25 year old who has a fucking Bentley.
on his driveway. And like you said, it's the people in their mom's basement, be like, oh, the Bentley isn't his, it's on finance. There's nothing wrong with having a car on finance. - I completely agree. - What's the big issue? - I mean, I sell,
Probably I'd say
70% of every car that we sell, bearing in mind last year we sold over 400 cars with an average price of 280,000.
70% of those cars were taken out on finance. Yeah.
Because finance rates are good.
Mm-hmm.
Say you buy the average price card, which is 280,000.
You take 280,000 out your business opportunity cost of 280 grand that yeah if you can't and payments are so low now if you can't earn or
more with that 280,000 than what your finance payment is.
you shouldn't have the 280,000 in the beginning. Like, you know, it's maths, it makes perfect sense. - I would say that probably just,
From wealthy people I know, I'd say probably 85%, 90% of your customers have the money to just buy at cash. But the fact that you're doing 70% in finance makes...
Perfect and total sense. Yeah, and I don't think it's a negative mark against anyone's name at all also what it costs you to get your money out your business. Yeah, and
You can't just take 280,000 out of your business without it costing you anything. Exactly.
The only reason...
I'll be honest, even after that Porsche, before and after,
The only reason I was buying all of my cars cash is because I have no access to credit and I have no access to finance and I probably have even less now. So like, I just can't do it, but it makes perfect sense. And I would proudly state as I stated about the Porsche that whatever car I had was on finance if it was because I still managed to get hold.
of a 2, 3, 4 million pound car that's on my driveway and I'm paying for it. But yeah, I don't think there's no shame in that game.
And it's always the people who can't
buy cash or get finance or afford anything better than the bus fare.
who are gonna laugh at them. - They're the ones that are gonna point the finger. - Yeah. - Oh, it's on finance.
Yeah, but if you can get finance on a car like that, that means a bank trusts you.
to lend you that amount of money. To lend you 300 grand. As a 25-year-old, that means you've built up some...
Good experience. - Yeah, you're doing well in life. - Probably a bigger flex, really.
You know, I haven't just got the money. I've got way more than this because banks are willing to give me theirs. Well, didn't we talk to someone this week where some of the supercar companies actually make you take finance out on the car when you buy it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's because that's Ferrari, basically. If they supply you with... like when the LaFerrari came out, Ferrari put everyone on an interest-only...
payment plan for two years. Bearing in mind the car was over a million pounds new.
went up to three million pounds straight away. These people don't necessarily need finance. Some of them might have wanted to do it anyway, but Ferrari done it to control who were having the cars. And they would know if the car had been sold. If the agreement got settled off,
they would know the car's been sold. When they know the car's been sold, that guy's then blacklisted from buying another Ferrari. So it was a way, it was kind of different with them. They'd done it to control,
- Right. - Their customers. - Yeah, 'cause a lot of car companies are, you know, they're kind of like that now. I mean, the slots for the new Bugatti, they were very careful. Mate Rimac is a good friend of Andrew's. You know, they wanted to distribute them nicely, fairly, make sure some of the key people who've done good for the brand have them. They don't just want, if they just put them up for sale, there's only gonna be 125, I think, at the first run made.
Technically, some ultra-rich guy could just buy them all in a free market and just keep them in a warehouse. So, yeah, car companies need to do that, and it's smart.
So I want to come back to cars in a moment, but
Something you said there about your content
But then we were having a chat yesterday and you're like, well, you know, I'm going to need a new problem soon. Yeah. So how do you balance your content with your life? But why do you need a new problem? Yeah. The example I gave yesterday. So Rob is not just a podcast host and he's not just a member of The War Room who's mine and Andrew's private networking organization. He's also my friend.
So I do speak to Rob, I ask him for his advice, and he's a friend of mine. And the example I gave yesterday was about when someone said, what's the next challenge for you?
I think Steven asked me that. And I said, well, the next challenge for me isn't very often decided by me. And I gave an example of my life when people call me lucky or they say, oh, well, you've done well, you know, a stroke of luck must have come in. I don't know, you're blessed or whatever it is. And I was talking about from, I mean, from the homeless shelter to working in fast food, to my company failing, to my dad dying, to the arrest in the jail time for no reason, my entire life has been a...
a huge...
tapestry.
of bad circumstances and things that would break a lot of people mentally and physically. And what I said yesterday was,
I've made hay while the rain's been pouring.
And I fully expect more thunderstorms on the horizon. Right now, the sun's kind of shining, and I like it.
I'm happy in the rain and I'm happy in the sun.
because I don't know anything else. There's never been a five-year period of my life, nothing longer than that when just everything was smooth sailing.
and everything was great. So yeah, I am happy and content, but that's nothing to do
with being in good circumstances.
Bad circumstances, I'm just fine too.
Which one are you better in, good or bad? - That's tricky. I get a bit anxious in good circumstances, because I know something bad is coming. And Andrew said it, and I've said it before on many podcasts, I won't repeat myself, but yeah, something bad is coming.
You, you, you, everyone listening at home,
"Hello, your parents are gonna die before you. "Shit's gonna happen." That's a guarantee of life. So if you're not prepared for it, if you're not mentally strong enough to at least be realistic and understand,
that there are cloudy days ahead.
then you're not gonna get anywhere, and you're gonna be mentally or physically broken the moment that thing happens. - But do you think today's generation, I was, we're similar age, I'm the same age as Andrew. - I'm 37, you're 38. - I'm 38, yeah, so,
I was brought up by a very, very old fashioned man, businessman, my dad. Very, very sharp, very clever, very successful, but very old fashioned in morals.
and made us go to work at a very young age. I left school when I was 11.
nice and um i'm you know went in the car business and helped my dad and then become a partner but
And
By having to deal with real life problems, real situations in business and in life, you become
a problem is no longer that much of a problem because you're just used to having problems. Exactly. When someone goes to school and they do this and university and college and blah, blah, blah, and then they're 30 years old and they get their first problem, which is not a problem to a real-life person, then they get anxiety and they don't know how to... Then they need therapy and they don't know how to deal with it. Like...
Fucking hell, it's...
Just get over it. It's just a small, it's life. People forget that in life there's emotions.
Some emotions are bad, but it's only an emotion.
Com C's can't train skilled sailors. Yeah, we I think that's part of the reason why the UK so fucked we talk about the government and everything else But we've actually had good times for quite a long time very very good time and everyone's got used to it and everyone's relaxed and everyone feels like they deserve everything and this is the new normal and no one's fought for anything and no one's trained for anything and no one's really seen any death or violence and if you haven't fought for anything you have no it
instinct to protect it, you know? - Ooh. - It's like how
you know, the trust fund kid who was born a billionaire can get easily famosed out of money by by women mainly or, you know, by other people's. Because, you know, when you've built it yourself or when you've when you fought for something or established a great nation and you remember all the struggles and all the hardships, even we can go back to not so recent.
Sorry, not so distant history when
you know the conservatives were in charge i quite like margaret thatcher to be fair but shutting down all the coal mines and all the hunger and the the the unemployment in all these towns you know people banded together and they they strive to try to you know
maintain their society, their community, their town, their way of life. Yeah. In the 1990s, everyone was just, you know, going to raves, taking ease, you know, going to Ibiza every summer, you know, relaxing too much. And this is a generation where I believe.
When I was young, certainly, I used to, my father used to take me to old people's homes because I used to play piano in the United States. At six, seven years old, you meet all these old people. And these are people who lived through the Second World War. These are people who lived through great struggle, great hardship. And respect your elders made so much sense when I was a young man.
even 12, 13, 14, 15, you met old people, and they always had some interesting story, or they'd been through something difficult,
In Romania,
where I lived for the last 10 years,
I still have a very healthy respect for the elderly because, and I donate money to elderly people's homes, I build them.
wheelchair ramps and stuff. And when I go and talk to the people there, you know, they lived through communism and great struggle because this was in the 80s and the 70s. But things have been so good for people in the West for so long.
It's all like, oh, respect your elders. And you see a 60, 70 year old woman walking down the street. I'm not saying don't help her across the road.
And I'm not saying don't treat her with respect.
What I'm saying is in the United States, she could have been just some hippie smoking weed and doing orgies in fields with, you know, flower power bullshit. Like it's no longer they're no longer the same caliber of old people. You know, old people are ruined. I miss the old people when I was a kid. Those were the those were the good old people. The old people will stab you today. Exactly.
Well, I mean, that generational change is coming to the UK. Yeah, you're right. Hardcore.
So let's move on to talking about cars. How many supercars do you own, or hypercars?
do not know hyper cars
What's been delivered, because I have a Pagani Utopia on the way, I have to do Bugatti on the way, but what I actually have, so Hypercars, I have the Bugatti, two Koenigseggeskos, I have the Pagani Hyurubesee,
those might be
My only hyper cars, you can count the Rimac Nevera. It's electric. Some people count it as a hyper car. Some people don't. Yeah, probably five, six hyper cars, super cars.
50 plus.
Like cars for utility, another 15, 20. I don't know if you parked downstairs. There's two big Cadillac Escalades downstairs, but those are just for my drivers because I find them to be the ultimate car to use a driver for because, you know,
I am quite a well-known figure and I like to be inconspicuous when I'm using my drivers. So a big black Escalade, there's five seats in the back,
plus the driver and the security guard in the front. So you got all the space in the world to go around with you, your friends, your girlfriend, your kids, whatever it may be.
You know, having a driver in my position and turning up in a Rolls Royce would be stupid because I'm using my driver because I don't want to be seen or spotted or, you know, I don't want to show off. If I want to show off, I'll take my own personal car. So I've got a bunch of other cars, you know, BMW X6s, Mercedes GLEs for like the winter and stuff. So I have a bunch of other cars that aren't supercars too.
So you've got at least 80 cars?
Probably more.
maybe approaching
100 like I don't know
I honestly don't know. And Andrew just keeps buying. So, yeah. So how much of this addiction to cars is Andrew and how much of it is you?
I'm, uh...
If cars were women,
Andrew would be a womanizer.
and I'd be a classic romantic, you know?
I'll see one and I'll fall in love.
And I want to be with it every day.
I don't want to treat it with
the respect and care it deserves.
Whereas Andrew is use and abuse. Andrew was his, everybody else's as well.
Ironic that when it comes to women, our roles probably reversed.
Here I am snitching on myself. I can't resist. I can't resist. It's because I like you. If I didn't like you, I'm guarded on podcasts. But yeah, I'm an old school romantic. My favorite car is my 1963 Aston Martin DB5. Beautiful. Yeah, 2,000 miles after Aston Martin rebuilt it 17, 18 years ago.
ever since, and when I called the guy,
I'd actually give a shout out to his car garage if I remembered the name, but his name was Helmut.
He was a guy in Germany. And mine's one of the only European drive ones that's still in good nick. I think it's the lowest mileage European drive Aston Martin DB5 that's on the roads.
When I was speaking to him about purchasing the car, etc., I was asking all these questions about does it overheat? Does it do this? Does it handle okay? Are there any problems with this? And he was like, are you going to drive this car? And I was like, yes, I'm going to drive the car around with a pretty girl next to me smoking cigarettes because whoever built that car back in 1962, 1963 wanted me to do that. Because there's ashtrays in them already. There's ashtrays in the car. And the cigarette lighter that functions. Yeah, there's actually ashtrays in the door pocket. I bet you love that about it. It's not for charging phones.
for lighting my cigarettes with. And he said, "You know, I'm happy to sell you the car, "but I think you're crazy." And I said,
Helmut, I think you're crazy because you've owned this car for nine years and you've put like six miles on it. I think you're crazy. You think I'm crazy. No one's wrong and no one's right. You know, we both have our own perspective on things.
But yeah, I've put 400 or 500 miles in that car already.
- Wow. - Yeah, but I am in love with it. That's what I mean by being an old school or romantic. I love it. And you'll be like, "Oh, we're going driving through the mountains." I'm like, "Can I take the DB5?" He's like, "You know it won't keep up." I'm like,
Yeah, but I want to take it. I don't care that it won't keep up. I want it. I want to take it. Yeah, I fall in love with cars.
It's obviously the famous Lada as well. Yes. Oh, I didn't count that in my hyper cars, did I?
Now you didn't. - My apologies now. - I think that's in a section all by itself. - Yeah, yeah, I think it transcends Cypher Cars. It goes full circle. - Yeah. - But, uh...
You know, what started as a joke on the internet
And, you know, before I drove it and when I first bought it, I thought this is going to be hilarious. I do actually love that car. I'd never sell it.
Someone offered me 45 grand for it. It's worth no more than three. Someone offered me 45,000 euros for...
for my larder, because they want Tristan Tate's larder. I said, no, I'm in love with it.
So funny, you turned up one day at some court somewhere. So funny. I just... Oh yeah, they had a bunch of questions and I thought, you know, fuck them. I'm only going to talk about my lotto. No matter what they ask me, I'm going to turn up at the lotto and talk about the lotto. Have you seen it, Rob? Yeah, I have seen it. I'm bored of them.
I'm bored of them. It's like it like it's no longer interesting. Nothing. I say matters.
It's all like, so yeah, talk about my larder. He got out and he was like, look, I know what you're going to ask. The larder's fine.
Oh, it makes it, it's funny. So yeah, I've got about four or five cars that I really love.
And I wouldn't part with. What are they? My classic Aston Martin, my Lada. I have an Aston Martin DBS 770. I think that is absolutely fantastic. I'd never get rid of that in a million years. I quite like my Ferrari SF90 Spyder.
I like
getting around town in it, because it's got the electric mode and the quiet mode, so you can negotiate traffic nice and easy. You can be kind of low key, but also it's got the performance.
That's four, I said four or five. Which other card do I?
Do I really like?
It may be my Aston Martin V12 Vantage. I'm an Aston Martin guy. I'm an Aston Martin guy. So I love Aston Martins. The new Valhalla, we have one of those on the way as well. So that'll be another hyper car. But that's been ordered.
Have you sat in the Valhalla yet? Uh, no. Are you gonna tell me I'm too tall? You're way too big! You're gonna struggle to fit in it. You know what? My DB5 isn't massive either. And uh... Nozalada.
No, no, no, you're wrong. The Lada, for some reason, has so much fucking space. No, I know, you're shocked. I was shocked. Because it's so bare bones and there's nothing to it. Like, I had Luke Barnett, the UFC fighter, in the back of my Lada while I was driving. He's like, yeah, 6'6". He was like, there's loads of space in there. I was like, yeah, I know, ultimate car. So, you know.
If you ever want to have fun in the back seat, I mean, because it's a lot of the girls usually say no, but.
But you could do it in theory if you found a girl with, you know, low standards.
So how come none of these hypercars get on your top five list?
I don't know. I'm not in love with them. I'm not in love with them. I like them. They're fantastic.
but I just haven't fallen in love with them.
Is it because they don't have the same character?
Maybe. I like them all for different reasons, and I have nothing bad to say about them. But, you know, like, I mean...
There are women in your life. If you're a full grown man, you've been with several women and you may have been with a more beautiful woman before your wife. You may have been with a woman who has longer legs, bigger tits, whatever it is. And a lot of guys will be like, oh, you broke up with her. And then your wife is, you know, good looking still, of course, but, you know, not quite as smoking hot. And you're like, no, but there's something special about it.
this one. It's not just about the aesthetics, it's not just about the performance, there's something special about this
this woman.
And I think I keep comparing women to cars, but I think that's a very good example.
you know.
The Bugatti is amazing.
It has one trick it does extremely well. You put your foot down in the baguetti.
Nothing's catching in.
It's truly insane, as you know. But yeah, I just don't love it like I love
Like I love the DB5, which is
ridiculously slow in comparison. I mean, I've done 140 miles an hour in it. That's the top speed I got it up to. You've done 140? Yeah. In the DB5? You were brave, man. That was, and when I mean that was an empty stretch of highway,
It was, the sun was going down, it was cool enough.
That was--
And well, the speedometer is doing this. Somewhere between 135 and 140. I don't know, but it probably did tap 140. But that was the top speed I got it up to. Let me give you some advice on the DB5. Go on. Never, ever, ever...
rely on the accuracy
of the fuel gauge. - Oh, I've learned that already. I've already learned that. And I remember I was standing by the side of the road when my guy Alex had to drive out in his Dacia to come and fill up my car. I felt like a right idiot. - I've done that. I've conked out in DB5s more than any other car. Mate, you get to a quarter of a tank, it just stops. - And then the worst thing is, if you super overfill it,
because it's got the petrol gauges on both sides. I had a, like the petrol station engine, they super overfill it, 'cause you could see the level of the fuel. There's nothing there to stop it. There's no like small nozzle. So if you super overfill it, then when you start driving, it kind of spills into the chassis. You smell it through the air con, and the whole car smells like petrol. - Yeah. - So. - And if you smoke, that's not ideal. - It's not, but...
You know.
Nothing's gonna stop me. - How much was the DBS?
Sorry, the DB5. I think it was 2.1 million euros. Yeah. It was a museum piece. It was fully restored. I think from the time it was restored, under 2000.
Miles owned by some very prestigious Aston Martin museums and collectors and stuff. I think the guy I bought it from is a...
Again, I can't remember his name. It is a car showroom that sells cars, but he also, because of the cars he sells, charges money.
for people to pay tickets to come in and look at them. So it's like really...
really exquisite old cars.
I think I've got to try that, Rob.
- Yeah. - That sort of your time wastes out. - Some of my stale stock just charge people to come around. - Yeah, and people do, 'cause why not? I mean, what's really that much different, when you think about a sculpture that someone may have carved 100 years ago that's on the side of a church or a cathedral, and you can look at it and you can admire it, and you can admire the craftsmanship and the vision that went into it. What's really that much different about that and a classic Aston Martin? Not very much, to me.
you know
Well, I'd appreciate that as a sculpture a lot more than what I would a piece of art. Exactly. Because it is a piece of art. It is a piece of art. And especially...
I mean,
You know, especially that this building was called...
obviously called
fantastically
well for Horatio to get involved in it. Yes.
because he is
the Da Vinci of the car business. - Horatio Pagani is a visionary and
And
I do like my classics, but in terms of modern cars that are built,
Like when I went, I actually saw the utopia when it was called Project X or something, before they even named it, they took us to our place in.
I think Germany, just before I got arrested three years ago, three and a half years ago, and they unveiled it to us. I thought, wow, this guy, he's an artist. He's a sculptor. He is a sculptor. And he's an engineer, of course. But yeah, so here I am in the Pagani penthouse, the most prestigious...
you know, property almost in probably in Business Bay, Dubai.
and Horatio Pagani put his name on it, which is very cool.
A lot of people, like, you're...
You're billionaires. There's one guy who's got a Pagani Zonda
R, which is a very rare, very expensive car in, I think it's in Tokyo. And he said the engine taken out and the car mounted on his wall. Yes, I've seen it. I've seen it. It's black. It's like, yeah, I saw that and I thought that is very, very cool. That's actually not, that's not a shell. That's a real, that's a real car. One of the real cars. Yeah. Well, you were talking about, you're not really that bothered about R. Maybe you could just put a few of your cars up on the wall. Yeah, probably. I could. I could probably crane them in somehow. Great place for the larder there.
Right here in the center of this sunken seating area. Yeah, nice red Lada. Wouldn't tell Andrew...
He'd just come home and there it would be. - Would that annoy him? - You know what? No, he'd probably laugh and shake my hand and say, "Get the fuck out of here." But well done. - And if you had to keep only,
either the DB5
Or the larder. Ah, don't ask me that.
- Sure.
Don't ask me that.
- Yeah.
Thank you.
Call me crazy.
I think that in terms of affiliation to my brand,
and just personal attachment.
And because it would be funny, and I often like to do the funny thing, if someone sat me down in front of all my friends with my brother watching and said, I'm going to set one of these cars on fire.
It's not just gone. I'm just going to take it. I'm going to destroy it. I'm going to erase it from existence. I think I'd have to say goodbye to the Aston.
So you'd sit there and watch it burn.
Yeah, I couldn't do that to the larder. Would you sit in the larder and watch the Aston burn? Maybe. It would make me feel better. I'd hug the steering wheel. But yeah, I think I'd hang on to the larder, as crazy as that seems.
Wow. You know he's actually pushing the price of Lada. He is, it's just a plan. Well, after I bought the Lada and started talking about it, Lada, who still make like 4x4s in Russia, started a Twitter account. I don't know if it's real or fake, but they've got like 7000 followers on Twitter, which didn't exist before I started saying Lada all the time. I don't think a single American, very few Western Europeans, a lot of people didn't even know what they were.
But now if you go to the United States, you know, in terms of brand recognition and you say, yeah, Lotto, they'll be like, oh, yeah, Tristan Tick has one of those. It's that old Russian car.
So I've done a lot for the brand. Are you bringing it to Dubai? I am bringing it to Dubai. Good lad. The Lado is coming to Dubai.
It's going to cost me a lot more than the car costs to just fly here, but I'm doing it anyway.
What is the rough cost of bringing a big car over from... Honestly, I don't know. It's not something ridiculous because...
Andrew is the only person who's flown cars back and forth. He dealt with it.
But maybe you know better than me. Yeah, I do it quite a lot. Roughly? How much? Well, from the UK to Dubai is like 25 grand. Yeah. Wow.
But look, it's five grand for a business class seat.
Yeah. It's 10 grand for first.
So really, it's not that bad. - I mean, you're taking a whole car that weighs like two tons. - Yeah, that's not that bad at all. - Pro rata, I think it's cheap. But you know, I... - I think insurance changes some of the cars, doesn't it? - Yeah, also, there was in COVID,
I remember I bought a LaFerrari from Brunei.
from the
Prince Jeffrey collection and it was limited how you could get the car back. And like it was a bit of a rush.
And to get it on a boat, which I wouldn't have put that car on a boat anyway, it was like three months to get it here. Or I paid £75,000 and had it flown.
pro rata for what the car was, you know, three million pound car. It made sense. It wasn't the end of the world. Yeah. But it was like,
six grand to
ship it
it could have disappeared in the ocean. - Yeah, yeah. - You know? - Yeah, and you never forgive yourself. - Yeah, so that was the most expensive. So it fluctuates. - Yeah.
It fluctuates a lot. We use a great company and they look after. The insurance is the most important thing. Right. Cool. Well, if you've got a good insurance contact, you know, I want to make sure the lot is looked after. Yeah, of course. Pass me the number after we talk. Of course. Silver has crashed. It's back to its price in 1974. And I'm going to buy more. And if you'd like to learn how to invest and build multiple streams of recurring income, I recommend you join Money.School.
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Why two Jescos?
Thank you.
Um,
I think, how many Jeskos are there, 125? - Well, there's different variants. - Different variants. - There's the TAC, there's the...
Absolute. Yeah, there's not many of them. And I think it was just...
Andrew being Andrew, as I said, use and abuse. Let's test it out. One's an absolute, one's an attack. So I think he just thought,
Let's see the difference. So we have the baby blue one and a purple one. Also one broke down didn't it the first day and he thought fuck it I'll buy another one. No he already had the other one on order but it was gonna. What happened with that? I have no idea. He was driving it and then it just stopped working but but.
That happens with hypercars. But it doesn't happen with Bugatti, in my experience. Bugatti are like...
I mean, it was VW Group who originally started with the Veyron.
But yeah, Bugatti's just work. They just work. I'm out in the Dubai desert, it's 45 degrees, aircon's on, I'm cool, engine's cool, they just work. Bugatti's are fantastic. But with a lot of hypercars and a lot of complicated vehicles, you do get issues. And I still do think that...
I make jokes about the Lada and all of my other cars, etc. But, you know, the ultimate status symbol now in the automotive world is
"A Bugatti." It doesn't matter, I mean, there's somebody in this building owns a Bugatti Veyron.
it's downstairs and i've seen it i'm like good credit to him i mean they're only a million dollars when they're released but that car's worth two and a half now three they're they're so rare i think including all the old ones
There's less than a thousand Bugatti cars that have ever been made. Isn't that correct? If you add up all the rules. Yeah, there will be. It's like 900 and something.
So it's a very exclusive club to have any type of Bugatti.
So I think it's the ultimate status quo. And that doesn't mean that there's
Only less than a thousand customers. I know some clients that have 10. Yes, exactly. Most people have two, believe it or not. Most Bugatti clients have more than one. With mine on the way, I'll have two.
Yeah. So, well, my collection will have two. Andrew and I are two individual people. So I guess it's one each. But yeah, there's very few owners. It's a very exclusive club. I guess maybe there's 450 owners. I don't know. This is me pulling 300. I'm pulling the numbers out of my ass here. But yeah, there's less than a thousand cars. It's the ultimate status symbol. I think there were times when you could pull up in a Rolls Royce and get out the backseat, maybe in the 1990s. I mean, if you had a Jaguar E-Type in the 1960s, there was always been that iconic. That guy has made it. That is the best car on the planet.
It doesn't matter if I don't think the Bugatti is the best car on the planet.
nothing turns heads like a Bugatti. When you turn up,
They know mine because of its unique color, but whoever you are in your Bugatti, and you can be one of those smart, rich people who's completely unknown. I envy you.
But if you pull up in a Bugatti and leave it somewhere outside of a
Dubai Mall or somewhere, a crowd will form around your car.
irrespective of who you are.
And I found that's the only car that does that.
- Wow. - And why is status important?
Well, status is something that all men strive for, and we signal the world with it.
as
You know, I think it's probably an evolutionary hangover. We certainly, certainly do it to attract females and to attract women. But it's not just that.
you know,
People focus way too much on women and attracting girls. So that's why you got to get fit to look good for girls. That's why you wear a nice watch because girls like it, drive a nice car because girls like it. But what you should be doing in a platonic non-sexual way is trying to attract men, the attention of men,
and subconsciously,
whether we admit to it or not. Us men, we judge each other on certain criteria, especially when you're a high value man.
If you're financially stable, you're in good shape,
You dress well, you're well groomed.
You know, that's a massive indicator to whether or not you can increase your status by teaming up with these people.
by, I mean, when you were in the room with me last night with all those war room guys,
Bunch of guys in nice custom tailored suits.
very smart, everyone's got an interesting story, well groomed. There's no slobs around me. So it's not just about attracting women. I think that
in this game of life we're all playing. We're all playing the game where we're trying to ultimately
become as successful as possible.
procreate have kids there's that's where women come into it but also enjoy this life to the absolute fullest and nothing can benefit you
More than...
you know, a good group of friends and good people around you.
So I could be
in that same car and I could be fat and I could be out of shape
I could not cut my hair and I could not wear deodorant because fuck you, I'm rich.
I have a $5 million car, leave me alone. It doesn't matter.
but people would stay away from me.
And then I'd be poor and more lonely and more sad. And I'd be able to get fewer things done, call on less favors. You wouldn't invite me on this podcast, I'm sure. So it's a.
or maybe to make fun of me. But you know, so I think status is super important. You know, people say money's important. I'm like, well, status is important too. And there's status in being
under the radar, their status in being famous, their status in lots of different ways. There's no exactly correct way to play it.
but we should all be striving for it in one way or another. Right. And is it tiring continually chasing the higher status?
Thank you.
Well, you tell me because you're doing the same thing.
- Yeah. - And you tell me, 'cause you're doing the same thing. - Yeah, I'm worn out. - And in fact, every single-- - You're worn out. - I'm worn out. - Every single man who performs well in this world, and we all know what performance means, whether it's money, whether people respect you or not. No, it doesn't get tiring because there's no other option. Do your lungs get tired breathing in and out every day? For the people like us, to the people who are cut from this cloth,
it's not an option to just
switch off and completely forget about and not care about and disregard, you know, what other people think of you.
I know people who genuinely say, I don't care what other people think of me. And I'm like, yeah, but you wouldn't want to know what we think of you. That's why.
I do know people like that. I'm like, yeah, you don't want to know what we think of you.
"But if I told you, it would still hurt your feelings." So you say you don't care, but you do. Yeah, it does get tiring, but then so does anything worth doing. - You can't base yourself on what everyone thinks of you. I think I only care about what,
the people who I...
class as
important.
to me
what they think. I also agree because believe it or not,
There are some people in the world who say negative things about me, believe it or not. I know. I know. It's crazy. Unthinkable. Unthinkable. Unthinkable.
But yeah, who gives a shit? Exactly. Who gives a shit? Exactly. Do you know what? I was thinking about that just this morning. Do I or don't I care what other people think about me? And I really don't care about what other people think about me that...
don't know me and want to bring me down. Bingo. I want to talk shit and don't understand me. Bingo. But friends, family, people I respect, people I meet for the first time,
I really care about what they think about me. And so you should. Yeah.
And then what that does is it helps you present yourself in a better way.
But like the man who...
is in his mother's basement checking your... your...
Car finance. Shout out to him. To the 10,000 of them. Shout out to you, bro. You know who you are. We're talking about you today. Enjoy. So very much like those people, people who've done absolutely nothing in their life to achieve any type of status will try to bring you down by saying,
Tristan, he always dresses in fancy suits. Why? Because I like
It and because shut up. I don't care.
I don't care what you think. Do you know what I mean? But they're on the internet typing away. I don't think they realize how much important people don't care about the things they say.
Mm.
I had a comment the other day. I bought this old Audi Quattro...
short-wheelbase rally car. Nice. And, um...
I just, I've done this video of it
driving on our estate where the showroom is, going down to the bottom where the car park is, doing a donut in a puddle and flashing water everywhere and whatever.
and like loads of people commented cool video blah blah and this one guy commented um
Couldn't drive a nail through wood.
And I never respond, but he'd set me up perfectly.
So I said, that's not what your missus said.
Then he just private messaged me.
"Karl, can you delete your comment?" - Yeah. - I'm like, if you gotta be a prick, commit to it. - Yeah, exactly. - You know what I mean? - Own it, yeah. - I'm not gonna delete your comment.
Leave it on there. So yeah. - But sometimes you have got to give them a bit of kudos. I mean, couldn't drive a nail through wood is almost good.
- Yeah. - As a cop. - I respected it completely. - Yeah, yeah. - That's why I left it there. - Almost. - And I felt like he deserved it.
I agree. Yeah. Because some is like, oh, he's a prick. Okay. Everyone can say that. That's...
- Yeah. - Like he was quite creative. I thought, fair play, you deserve a response. - Yeah. - Yeah. No, and sometimes I read those comments, I think, "Hmm, nice." - Yeah. - Correct. - But also, and also I know my own flaws, and I'm a realistic man who knows my own downfalls. If you wanna make fun of me for something that I do, like fine, like it's, but it's not just that they wouldn't do it if they knew you didn't care. I think a lot of us kind of thrive off it, especially after the last five years, me and Andrew,
Enjoy it almost if they knew how much they in that I enjoyed reading it or
they'd certainly stop because some of these people will hate me. But those are the people too...
I guess blindly focused to think of anything smart to say. There's nothing smart to say. I'll talk about
The economical the economic comparison between Moldova and Georgia. This is a real example and on the
You're a fucking human trafficker. I'm like, that's so boring. Like, Jesus Christ, you know?
I mean,
Maybe Tristan wants to maybe Tristan wants to wants these countries to remain poor so he could kidnap their women or that would be funny. You know what I mean? But the people who the people who blindly hate me can't even think up of a good joke. That took me one second. You know, I can't think of anything funny to say. So these people are really lost.
and the energy they put into this.
Because when you check their Twitter feed, when someone says something really, you know, abrasive or rude or tries to bring you down and gets horrible, click on their Twitter feed and click replies.
They're typing to everyone important, just hoping for a like, hoping for a comment back, hoping for a bit of interaction.
I go on these things and it's me,
Candace Owens, Dan Bilzerian, you.
Donald Trump. They're spamming everyone with this hateful content. And I'm just like, how much time do you have? Like, seriously. If they went to work and channeled that, you know, through actually trying to be productive, they wouldn't hate everybody. Then they'd be important enough to have losers type shit at them. I think if people don't type shit to you, it's a compliment when they do. Yeah. It is. You've made a difference. Shout out to the guy on this podcast who tells Robbie shouldn't platform me.
Shout out to you, bro. Go ahead and do it. I'm waiting to see the comment. - Do you know, I love it when people say that.
You're giving Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate a platform like they fucking need me to give you a platform. We do appreciate being on your platform because we talk about very interesting topics and you're a great interviewer. Yeah, we don't we certainly you don't need me. At this stage, we don't need a platform. No. They're going to do it without me. It's not like you weren't known. Yeah. And then you came on my show.
And now you're billionaires with hundreds of billions of views probably a week. As much as I would love that, they don't get it.
So let's say there's some of these haters online and we've talked a bit and a couple of them have gone, do you know what, I'm listening. I'd like to sort my life out. Because we often don't recognise that maybe some of them have had a bit of a bad run. Maybe they're a bit lonely.
What would you say to them? How can they make their life better and make a bit of money?
Thank you.
Well,
just general advice.
I would say that
with everybody in the world,
there's going to be things that they say that you like and things that
they say that you dislike.
I'm often
criticized by online trolls for not
criticizing small mistakes.
that people have.
I mean, when Elon does something the world doesn't like, or Trump does something the world doesn't like,
I don't jump on them.
Because overwhelmingly, and like as a matter of
as a matter of proportion,
I respect what they say, I respect what they do very, very much, and everybody's human.
I don't have to agree with you.
Everything everyone says what I would say is very simple, you know ignore my you know my racist jokes that I make which are funny By the way and the misogynistic jokes about women can't drive and etc. Ignore all of that if you actually listen to my core message and
I think the core of my message is self-accountability.
And it's Andrew's as well. You are responsible for your life, and no one's going to wake up one day and try and change your life. A very famous fitness influencer said no one's made more people go to the gym than Andrew Tate. He's not a fitness influencer.
just because we preach self-accountability. So if you really hate me, but you like the Rob Moore podcast, you decided to watch this, don't watch the content of me
you know, 10 years ago,
sitting in a nightclub with three girls on my lap, drinking champagne, that's not going to help you. But as a man who's grown and learned and I'm multifaceted, there are things that I can teach you and I can say to you that will help you along.
I'm not even inside the university.com with our online educational platform.
We were attacked by the media once. He said, "It's a place for Tristan and Andrew to spread their toxic ideas."
I'm not in there. I'm not a professor.
That is an online educational platform filled with people who you perhaps don't know,
who know exactly what they're doing, who could teach you how to make money.
And I'm not even one of the professors, so the attacks on it are very, very stupid.
So, um...
Yeah, there's lots of good stuff that I say and try to read between the lines is what I
Is what I'd tell which of your hundred cars attracts the most women?
-
I don't think cars attract women anymore.
If you think about attracting women, I think that there's been stages. I can only look back on recent history. I don't know how you pulled in ancient Rome or Napoleonic France. I don't know. But certainly- Yeah, good horse.
I think that throughout certainly the period of history that I've met people that lived in,
If you're smart enough, and I'm making this up off the top of my head, there's probably a plethora of different reasons.
that got you women in terms of materialism.
And I think the most noble was probably in the '50s, '60s, if you had your war medals on.
You know, we're gonna be like, oh, war hero, fought in the war. I think that would have attracted a good woman, got you a wife. I think it went into cars slightly after that. I think between the 60s and the 80s,
That was the time.
when if you had a really nice car, there's no internet. You're the man in your town in
Nebraska and you have a nice Cadillac.
and I Shelby Mustang, you know? I feel like, "Hey, I'll give you a ride in my car." Women would swoon over that. I think that,
In terms of appeal to women, cars have lost that power. Because if you are a brutally unattractive man,
in any way. All the car does
is symbol that you have enough money.
to give the woman some money.
So the low level women in the world, the escorts, the girls who, you know, take take money for sex and, you know, respect your hustle girls, but I'm not into that.
I don't pay for sex. I think that having a nice car,
sometimes a really good woman will be put off by it.
they'll see you in a $3, $4 million car and they'll think, "Playboy."
I mean, the hoes love it.
But, you know,
Who's into hoes? - Them hoes ain't loyal. - Yeah. Sometimes I have a saying, you're like, what's the saying that I once used? I said,
Yeah, gold diggers don't get much gold from me, but I've got no problem letting them dig, if you catch my drift. So I don't think cars attract women. I think that it moved from having a cool car in the '60s, '70s, '80s. Not sure what the '90s was like. I was a very young man, teenager, probably not in the game. But I think in this day and age,
it's travel, it's plane tickets. That's what I think it is.
I think if I say, "Hey, I'm gonna take you for a ride in my nice car."
Girls won't care. If I say, "Hey, I'm going to Bali. Do you want to come?" Boom. You know? I also think it's, I've got a million followers.
yeah status i think followers and now i obviously i i was born in 87 so i i used to drive from being really young i've always i've had nice cars from being
really young, so I've seen what attention
you get from women in nice cars. I never really understood it either, really, by the way.
Do you think because I have this nice car,
that I'm going to give it to you. Yeah. I don't, I don't, I've never understood it, but it's always been what it's been.
You're onto something there though.
Because the followers...
are shared.
When a girl's hanging out with you and she's- You tag her in a post. Yeah, she sucks that clout and that-
what was the word you used earlier? That status from you, from being around you. So yeah, that's another one as well.
Maybe it was flight tickets slightly before. Maybe that ended five or six years ago. You know, you walk into a nightclub in
2005 and it was like, oh, that guy's got a Lamborghini outside. Yes. Yes. Now you walk into a nightclub like that guy's got three million followers on TikTok or Instagram or whatever. It's shifted. You're right. You're right. So so I don't think cars attract the right type of woman these days anyway.
But some of them might think, "Oh, if he's my boyfriend, he'll buy me nice things." "Well, that car is a signal of that."
Sure, I'll sleep with them, but those aren't the women you want to keep around anyway.
So I don't really measure cars on that. I like cars for me.
Mm.
I think you said, real wealth is quiet.
- Okay.
Mmm, I...
Well, no, I said in a video that you must have seen, I said people say that.
real wealth is quiet or old money.
It's quiet.
And that's probably true.
But the misconception that people who don't like me
jump onto
is they think I'm trying to pretend I'm old money.
I think in the same video, I'm like, yes, yes, if you're old money,
Because to me, there's no insult with being called new money.
What new money means is...
I did it all myself, which I think is quite a compliment. And that's no disrespect to those people who have legacy wealth. I have friends who have, I'm a good friend of, I don't know if you have Lord John Mappin, who owns Camelot Castle in England. And these people who are really old money families, he once told me on a phone conversation, jokingly, he wouldn't mind me saying this. He goes, well, you know, in certain circles, I'm considered
new money because my family got rich in the 1790s and i was like
he's a wonderful man by the way good guy so um and i have full respect for these people because i'm trying to be that guy
who leaves the legacy, the Tate legacy, who goes on, who has these mansions and these things, who passes them down or whatever the modern equivalent is. I'm trying to be that guy to set something up like that. So I have full respect for old money people, but I don't see new money as an insult.
Because what it means is, oh, you were born with nothing.
and now you're rich because you did it yourself. Well, how is that an insult? And you know the only people who use the word new money as an insult?
people with no money. I have plenty of old money friends, and they're happy to hang around with me and shake my hand, and we have interesting conversations, because people who are either at that level because they're from those families, or people who've made it to that level, always have interesting stories and interesting things to say to each other. So yes, it is thrown around, usually by people with no money at all.
who are like, "Oh, Tristan, all those fancy watches and all those cars and all this, you're showing off."
That's not what legacy wealthy people do. And my argument is good. I'm not legacy wealthy.
I'm very much the same mindset as
you know, although I may be smarter and I may be classier than some of these people,
There is a side of me. I'm Luton Town Council Estate. I very much am and I don't shy away from that fact.
So you know these rappers from Atlanta with their massive diamond chains and their spinning rims on their cars doing this and shit.
"Although I don't want to be like them,
Yeah, I'm in a way kind of acting like them.
But that's who I am. Maybe my kids can...
go to private school and
you know, and do something different and use my money to build a lasting legacy. And that's their prerogative. But...
You know, I act the way I act and I don't pretend to be what I'm not.
So if you count real wealth,
Just as in money, I'm richer than many old money people a lot of people will meet.
And that's fine too.
But I think real wealth is really just a number at the end of the day, if you're talking financially. So you could say I'm not really wealthy because I, you know.
show off, but
I like showing off, leave me alone. - I've never really heard that amongst anybody. I would class as friends. No one has ever said, yes, people have said before,
Um,
Let me introduce you to whoever real old money.
Yes.
But I've never had the opposite.
Bingo. - Real new money. - I've never had someone go, oh,
Tristan's coming tomorrow to dinner.
Just be be careful. He's he's new money like no one's ever said that like you get you get I get it from the opposite way But no, no, no evidence. Well, that's my point. The people who say are no money No money people and old money people are sitting around at the same tables laughing and people with no money. I like who's not all money? Oh
"You'll never be any type of money. "What the fuck are you talking about? "What are you talking about?" But yeah, you're right, there we go.
You just proved my point. It's nice to know that the old money people don't laugh at me behind my head. It's nice to know, because I wouldn't have seen it. Well, if they laugh at you, they laugh at me. But it's a situation where...
Someone who
you would say, let's say new money, if that's even a thing.
They're more interesting.
What do they do to get it? And what are you still doing? Obviously you're still doing it.
You know, you're active, you're moving on. Moss doesn't grow on a rolling stone. You know, you're going. Where old money is like, you know, yes, polo on Wednesdays and...
Yeah.
Paddle on Thursdays. - But there's a-- - But it's fine. - You can tell he's not old, man, can't you? - It's fine, I just, I think everyone, I think,
Money is money. But you know what? To some people,
What is money?
in the way of what do they class as
Oh, he has money.
Pfff.
I would be, I'm probably the poorest person I know.
Um,
In some circles. In other circles, I might not be.
Who gives a fuck? It is very relative. When I was young, I remember thinking that the dream salary would be like,
after tax, 52 grand a year. Well, a new grand every week showing up in your bank account. That's enough money to do anything, I thought. You know? So- Yeah, you didn't know how the tax system work. Exactly. No, I didn't. I didn't. So, yeah, it's all relative anyway, at the end of the day. You know, I set tables in Dubai where I'm extremely wealthy, and I set tables in Dubai when I'm extremely broke. It's fine. But keep in mind, in any old money family,
Even the oldest of old money families, there's a king who fought a war for his throne.
you know, quite literally in the oldest old money families.
But there was always that one guy. And it either gets squandered and wasted,
by being a bad parent and being a bad example, because your kids end up ruining it all, or,
It, uh...
Gets, you know, it grows and amplifies and it becomes more powerful and that too is a credit to those families to those kids who are born wealthy and to the man who started it all in the first place.
I was using this example with...
And I'm not saying these were the best moral people in the world. I was sitting with somebody. They said, "So what's next for you, Tristan? You want to be president of the United States? You want to do this? You want to do that?" I'm like, "No."
No, no, no, no, no.
I need...
half a billion liquid somewhere nice and safe.
I need lots of assets.
And then I need my kids to perform.
they can be the president.
They can do these things.
You probably know this, but I'm not sure. I said to somebody, do you know who, easy one, I said, do you know who Fred Trump was?
They're like, no. I said, property developer in New York, you know, did all right. Multi-millionaire did okay.
His son, you know, learned the family business.
took over, amassed a net worth of 4.7 billion, is now the most powerful man in the world. But that would be impossible if it wasn't for Fred Trump. I'm trying to be Fred Trump.
Who was Prescott Bush? Well, Prescott Bush started as a rancher who found oil in Texas, became an oil merchant, made a bunch of money in, let's say, some nefarious ways. You know, some of the things he was doing during World War II were not exactly kosher. And I know people are going to attack me for naming him as a good example. But Prescott Bush was a nobody. A lot of people still don't know the name today.
but they know his son and his grandson, because both of them served as presidents of the United States of America.
But my son won't have to do that.
three and a half years at Pret-a-Manger making sandwiches. My son won't have to do two years at Anglian Windows, knocking doors, trying to sell home improvements. My sons won't have to do what I did,
to be who I am.
And they get this head start where
Good.
If my grandson one day,
becomes Prime Minister of England.
Maybe we can...
It's too far gone by then. But if my grandson one day becomes Prime Minister of England, good, then I've done my job.
There's nothing wrong with old money.
because it stands to the testament of good parentage. So I can never look down on old money people, just as they don't look down on me.
What do you think of the saying, "Don't go broke trying to look rich"?
I think that it's an old saying that's outdated.
I think it's an old saying that's outdated. I think that was very true.
for all of human history.
However,
There are men who in 2007, when it was easier, 2008, and social media just came around,
who rented Lambos.
and drove around speeding around rappers who rented diamond chains and faked it all, who got the clout and got the attention from doing that, that allowed them to become wealthier.
I remember looking up rappers
and where they were today, but we were looking up of them because
It was an egotistical thing. Andrew and I were trying to measure how rich we were against, like, people who we really know and respect. If we're richer than them or poorer than them. And there's some super famous people that are much richer than them. I was like, Andrew, isn't it wild that we're 10 times richer than him? And I looked up a rapper called Chameleon Air. He had a song, Riding Dirty. And I was like, where is he these days? He's falling off. I remember that one song. I looked him up. He was never really...
a gangster or thug or about that life. And he put in his gold grills and he produced his own music. And he made these songs that we remember from when I was like 16, 17, 18.
And he is one of the wealthiest people in the American music industry now, because his love was for producing. And sure, the big spinning rims and the big diamond chains, when he was releasing these songs, he didn't have the money to do that.
But he created enough attention and enough clout for himself to drag in other artists to capitalize on his skills, which was producing and I don't know the music industry or doing whatever he did to become an extremely wealthy individual. So I think it's outdated because of the attention economy we spoke about.
if somebody was an absolute nobody today,
and I'm not giving ideas out here. And they,
somehow ran into...
a million pounds.
And they said, you know what, I'm going to rent a private jet
And I'm going to bribe the owner of the private jet.
half a million to do a loop-de-loop. Super illegal. I'm gonna get in trouble. It's illegal to do. I'm just gonna do this because, you know, I'm gonna waste a million pound on this. He could then well become one of the most famous influencers in the world and make 30 million back, you know? So,
I think slightly outdated. I think social media has made a big difference to that. Massive.
Because before social media, you could go broke pretending to be rich because you're not going to earn any money from it. Bingo. Yeah. Yeah.
Social media, like Tristan just said, I sell cars to people.
a lot of younger people I sell cars to, that necessarily don't buy the car because they want the car.
that car opens a door for them, and it might be everything they've got. Mm-hmm.
but that gets me in another room
where I can expand, you know? And cars do get you in rooms with people. There's a common interest. - They do. - If someone's got a Lambo and you've got a Lambo, you could have 10 Lambos and you could have one.
But you've got that in common now.
"What's your name? Where are you from?" You need to have something about you, of course, in the first place to hold the conversation. - Yeah. - But I think social media's changed all that. I don't think you can go broke.
trying to look rich now.
I think you will stay broke if you don't look rich now.
Yeah, if you're in a classical field, sure. But when you're talking about this new attention economy in social media, you're completely right.
You're completely right.
- Wow.
Because very few people have strange-- on the internet, it's all about clout, money. Everyone wants to watch the same stuff, and it works.
I mean, you could fail, but then again, you could have failed starting any business.
you know, showing off online.
is in a way,
starting capital to trying to run a business, maybe for a lot of people.
big YouTube channel. That's a business. I mean, but...
- Yeah. - And all depends on the individual. It's a boring answer, but also depends who you are. - We have a saying in the showroom of me and my staff, if someone's buying a car and you can see what it's for, we just put in our WhatsApp group,
for the gram.
- For the gram, yeah. - For the gram. Like this is all for the gram. They want a picture with me, they want the car, they want me to repost it, they want this. And I'm happy to do it. Part of my negotiation skills now,
and not
Financial. Yeah.
People are not like, okay, Carl, the car's $300,000, would you take $290,000? It's if I buy this for $300,000, will you do a post of me buying it? Yes. Yes.
- Yeah. - And that doesn't illegitimize it in any way, does it? It's just like you said, the attention economy. Why do people think that's all so bad? - Why not take the maximum benefit? Before Instagram was such a big thing. When I was buying cars, I'd like, yeah, give me the free luggage.
Give me the free cup if I'm buying a Porsche. You negotiate in that way. But now, I mean, what you do for social media for your clients is more valuable than the luggage. Of course it is. And doesn't cost you anything. So it's actually win-win. Yeah. It's win-win. And there's nothing wrong with it. No. I mean, in the old retail days, you'd dress your shop window as nicely as you could. You'd...
go outside and offer people a few bits of fudge to come in. How's this any different? No, it's not.
It's not. She's after the same. It's just evolution, isn't it?
- You're exactly the same.
I said this when people were
And when people were, when he first went viral, that salt guy, the Turkish guy who sprinkles salt. I was like, that's stupid. Because I went there and he sprinkled salt on my steak. And I posted it, of course. And everyone was like, did you feel like a twat? You were that person. No, but here's my point.
My point was actually very valid when someone said, "Oh, you just paid £2,000 for steak you could have bought for £100 eating at home."
"Yeah, but I wasn't paying for food. "I wasn't paying to eat. "I was paying to be seen in the spot "that everyone wants to be in at that point in time." And also this idea that he's somehow ripping people off,
by selling steak that's worth 50 pounds for a thousand pounds. I'm like, well,
This has actually been around for a lot longer than people think.
We all remember, and they're falling out of fashion now, but before him, before Instagram, there's Benny Hanna. Great, we've got a guy with martial arts skills doing this, and everyone's there for the entertainment watching, and wow, and you pay your $500 bill. It's shrimp and rice. How expensive can the shrimp and rice be? You know, they add some showmanship to it.
and 10x is the price. That's all he was doing.
So it's actually an older gimmick than... he didn't invent this.
And, you know, the idea, you're at Benihana, you take photos, you make videos of the chef doing all the tricks, and, you know, it's very cool. And, you know, it's very cool.
They're just jazzing it up a bit. So yeah, yeah, you know, buy the car, sure. I'll post it on your Instagram, get this picture of you shaking my hand in front of your new Rolls Royce. Cool, he's just jazzing up the product.
with a little bit of attention, a little bit of flair. And it's a tale as old as time. It's not new. And then you turn up at your car at Salt Bay.
Parked outside, there's a picture of you with the guy doing this. All of a sudden you're looking at your Instagram post and someone's going, "Who the fuck is this guy?" Yeah, exactly. You know? Follow. Yeah.
It's also really leveraged networking, because when you meet one person, you've got a following, they've got a following, you connect.
a load of your other followers connect. Yes. And also people who follow them at their level start to connect. Yeah.
With you. It's like...
- There's a reason they call it-- - Lightspeed networking. There's a reason they call it going viral. Spreads like a virus, you know?
"What color is your Bugatti?" Okay, well, Andrew was going to meet Mike Thurston in a gym, who's a fitness influencer here in Dubai.
I can't remember who came out. He's gonna be mad. I forgot his name, but a guy who knows Mike came out. Oh, yeah. No. What about the color? And Andrew said that one line.
That guy's clip of him filming
with Andrew has now been seen
I wanna say hundreds of millions of times maybe.
And in the podcast, Mike Thurston got training in the gym, hundreds of millions of views, blah, blah, blah, all because Andrew made that one joke while their cameramen were filming. Yeah, it's called viral for a reason. It's like a virus you pass on to someone else, and it spreads throughout the world, to the whole world of scene,
they can tie it back to these little moments. - Well, that was the first, that's the first video I remember of,
Hearing
the word Tate. - Yeah.
was literally that. And I was like, this guy's got a pure sport
Shiron
You just wanted to sell him a load of cars, probably. In a funky colour, he's got out his...
Couldn't tell the accent, is he British? Who the fuck is this guy? Yeah.
Follow.
- And there you go. - It's simple as that. - And that was the year he became the most Googled man on earth, in 2022, yeah. - I mean, as an example, maybe it was meant, maybe it wasn't meant,
Andrew or your both of you having that car and
You you couldn't the car was cheap for what it done for you that car has a
done a lot for us, yeah.
But one more time while we're talking about Carl's, I'll circle back.
For per pound spent the lot is much more Per pound spent the lot has garnished me a lot more attention and a lot more clicks than the Bugatti has So the the Bugatti is revenue and the Lada is profit. Exactly. Exactly. No, you're right. I also heard tell me if it's true or not Maybe you kind of can't say I think you probably can maybe um
The color.
I've heard no one else can order a Bugatti in that color. Yes, that is true. But I think there's probably a few paint
Jobs like that that Bugatti will do they'll do that for you, you know, they're so rare They cater to their customers so much all of their customers are ultra high net worth individuals. I was explaining this to a girl She was like how much better is this car than that car? I said well if you were to just say that this car is worth a
five million pounds, you know, that car is probably worth 250,000.
You could buy 20 of those.
for this, it's still one car. So it's for the ultra high net worth guys, Bugatti's. And Bugatti's the kind of company that will do that. If you say, if you pick something, if you pick blue, and so don't let anyone else pick blue, they won't do it. But if you say, this is a very unique color scheme, this is something that hasn't been ordered before. You've got what, nine slots left of this particular car. I'm going to go for this,
but don't let the other slots get filled with this color they'll do that for you but a lot you know a lot of pagani would probably do the same
A lot of companies want, wow. Is the new Bugatti the same color? Can you disclose? I cannot disclose. Why not?
I could, but I won't. I'll have to wait and see. Technically I could.
But I won't. I'll get, you know, because Andrew loves the Bugettis.
And Andrew, I'll leave that moment to him. I think that's fair.
He specced it.
I thumbs up it.
But I'll leave that to him to tell you.
And let's talk about Ferrari because it doesn't seem to be big on...
your car collection radar, I know you mentioned the SF90, but
You don't you guys don't seem that keen on Ferraris?
Don't have that many compared to others. No, we don't. They are very good. I mean, the 812, the reason we put that up for sale was not just because of the steering wheel, but also because we have two 812 competitions. So one of them is downstairs right now.
I'll show you after the podcast. Thank you. I've got one downstairs right now. And one of them's in Europe. I'm not going to say where, but, um,
I do like them.
And they're very good, but I don't love them. And I can't explain why.
We could go into a 10-minute conversation about the benefits of Ferrari, how all the parts are made by Ferrari. I know all about Ferrari. They're the one car company that manufactures even the little rubber stamps that are here. They're not buying from any other car company, and they're very unique in this way. And the pedigree, I don't love them.
I like them.
Why don't you love them? I don't know.
I do not know
Why do I love whiskey more than gin? I don't know. Well, it might be because it tastes better.
Yeah, maybe, but to some people, gin beats whiskey. I think it's a matter of personal taste, and I just don't love Ferraris. Have you ever bought a new Ferrari from Ferrari?
We have bought
As in you're the third, you ordered it, you're the first.
two or three new Ferraris from Ferrari over the last seven or eight years, yeah. - So Ferrari are happy to do business with the Tate brothers?
Well, one, I would like to think so.
Two.
I don't really know the answer to the question.
I genuinely don't know.
It's just they're not happy to do business with a lot of people. Just to give you an example.
Horatio Pagani was here in my house, sitting right over there with Andrew just two days ago.
And I read some of the comments because that post went mega viral.
And--
I read some of the comments and obviously the basement dwellers are out there with their keyboards. And I read one like, "Pfff, can't believe he's seen with that guy in his house."
And I'm like, okay.
You're the CEO of Pagani Motors, right? You've put your name on three buildings. Two are in the United States under construction, and one of them's here.
The single
most luxurious piece of real estate you've ever put your name on, this guy owns.
"He owns one of your cars, "and there's not many Paganis in the world.
And he has a Utopia, your brand new flagship car, coming.
He's the guy who's gonna make it famous, he's the guy who's gonna make it viral.
Even if Andrew had a criminal record,
That's not bad business and that's not a bad move.
because the haters who don't like Andrew
who want to talk about Horatio Pagani sitting here on my couch
aren't Pagani customers and they never will be ever. Whereas Andrew is a symbol of status. He's a symbol of wealth, whether people like it or not. So wealthy people will be like, ah, this is good. You know what I mean? But if we were to break that down, if we were to take Ferrari and Pagani and ultra luxury brands and break that down on a lower level,
It would actually sound very stupid. It's only with ultra high end luxury stuff because people are jealous they can't have it. So people attack in this way.
If I went into McDonald's tomorrow,
and I bought a Big Tasty and Coke and fries and some chicken nuggets. That's my usual order. And I photographed myself eating it and drinking it.
zero people would tweet at McDonald's. Can't believe you're happy to serve him because he said this. No one would. But when, because they can have McDonald's.
but they're upset that the CEO of the most
artistic and beautiful car company in the world,
is sitting with Andrew in this apartment he designed as one of his car customers because they want these things.
So they bite. So I don't know if Ferrari are happy to do business with me.
I don't care because
knowing people like yourself and people like yourself based in Dubai and Europe and everywhere, I could get any Ferrari. Well, wherever you are in the world, I'm happy to do it. Thank you. Thank you. I'm surprised it took that long, mate. But with my connections and net worth, if I wanted a particular Ferrari, I could get my hands on one.
So I don't think Ferrari has anything against me. They shouldn't.
We have clean criminal records and we're car lovers with a lot of influence. They should want to sell us cars. I think Ferrari are fine with us.
There's just stories that customers like...
Like Philip Pline, the fashion designer.
He got sued by Ferrari for...
Um...
displaying a
displaying some trainers on the bonnet of his car. They thought he was disrespecting the car. So they
decided to sue him. - Maybe. I know Bugatti band, I don't know music, but there's some American rapper.
and there's very few Bugattis in the world, he lent his car to some other rapper
for a music video.
It was a song about Bugattis, but the guy who wrote the song didn't have one.
And another rapper, one of the big ones, Lil Wayne, Jay-Z, I don't know which one, lent it to this for the music video and Bugatti banned him.
and said, we'll never sell you another Bugatti. - Yeah, they won't sell cars to people who hire them. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah. - I think there's only two rental Bugattis in the world, isn't there? One's in Switzerland and one's in the UAE maybe. I don't know, but there's very few of them. But these are people who bought it, rented out, got blacklisted and just stick by their guns. - What they also do though is they,
Once they blacklist you, once Bugatti blacklists you, they revoke the warranty from your car. Fair. And they won't service your car.
Nice. Well, I am not blacklisted, and despite the conspiracy theorists on the internet, no, my Bugatti is not rented.
Never gonna happen to me. - Well, it'd be a coincidence if it was, 'cause your name's in the headrest. - Yeah, I know, but you know what? These people on the internet can't be convinced somehow. - And also the number plate. Not many people pick up on the number plate. Have you picked up on the number plate? I have. - Yeah, tell me. - So the number plate, well, Tristan, will be able to tell you better than me. So in Dubai, you have a ABCDEFG or the alphabet in the corner to say when the plate was made.
And then you have numbers. Well, I'm not sure the plate exactly, but I know his number is T.
and the numbers are eight.
- Tate. - So it's tate.
Yeah.
So the rental company was actually very kind to me to sort that out. But, um, yeah, that's funny.
No, I mean, the people on the internet, they have endless listeners who say, you know what I get a lot of shit about?
My house, I have this house in Romania, you've been to my house. It's more of a bunker, like a compound house. It's got a really nice high wall. Keep in mind, retards have broken to my house trying to stab me and have stabbed employees of mine. Like I've got this massive wall. It used to be a factory and it's got nine bedrooms total.
It's very secure, bulletproof doors, really nice swimming pool, really nice outdoor area. But because it used to be this factory, if you're, it's still, if you were to, if I were to, if it wasn't mine and it was for sale in Bucharest, in the area it's in, it's worth about two and a half million euros. So it's still an expensive piece of real estate, expensive, but people will be like, oh, Tate Cleans will be worth hundreds of millions, he lives in this old meat factory. I'm like,
Yeah, I also drive a lot. I like that house.
I like it, you know, I'm never selling it. That is my house.
But now, obviously, I live in a 30 plus million dollar penthouse in the sky in the business bay of what is the new world's financial capital. So I wonder what they're going to say next. But yeah, they give you shit for the rented cars. They talk about cars being rented. They talk about your house being cheap. And these are people who couldn't buy a pair of shoes.
that I wear. So,
Yeah.
It's funny. It's enjoyable.
Recently, Patek launched a new watch called the Cubitus.
Is that a classic looking one? It's the you know, this is the you got this one the Nautilus is that and the cubitus is Square, I've seen it. Yes of that And of course you imagine a Patek CEO to be very old money. Yeah, very gentlemanly and people were giving it hate And he said I don't care because no one hating on this cubitus will ever be able to afford to buy one that that is on Instagram online That is super true. Oh
"My tailor shop."
when I was arrested,
got a bunch of emails from haters, like, "I can't believe you make that guy suits."
And I speak with my tailors, and I speak with lots of people like this, and they're like,
What are we supposed to do? We sell clothes. What do you want from me? We sell clothes to people. What am I supposed to do? The whole world listened to these people like...
You know, people disliked by the media should walk around naked
We sell clothes. What's wrong with these people? Why am I getting these emails? I'm like, oh, I don't know, bro.
But yeah, no one who,
who hates on the new watches will ever be able to afford one. Have you ever met Henri Stern?
the CEO of Patek? - No. You? - Yeah, I was lucky enough to meet him this year.
Nothing like I mean, I don't know what I expected but nothing like what I expected. I mean he is just a
super cool, like so friendly, so down to earth. And you respect a brand like Patek Philippe. I'm a massive fan of Patek Philippe. You think their CEO would be...
Old money, should we say. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure he is, but with a new money attitude. Like, he...
He is a super cool guy. He really, really, he was so pleasantly surprised me actually. Well, Francois, the ex CEO of Audemars Piguet, the same. Maybe that's a new thing. Well, I think the world is changing in a way that, you know, certainly from the Victorian era to probably the 60s, you know, who was from a rich family. It was top hat and tails like walking around the streets of London. I think that there are people now and I've met them. In fact, I'm not going to I can't I can't say their names, but I've met them.
Their fathers are billionaires. Their fathers are royalty in various families, et cetera. But they're young. They're dressed in cool, nice, modern clothing, sneakers, backwards baseball cap on.
You know, the lines have blurred now.
So the tech CEO and the son of the billionaire,
will dress in the same way, talk in the same way, have a similar style.
So,
Now it matters less than ever before, if it ever mattered. Yeah, which I think is great because it means you now have to use your radar as a human. Bingo. And you have to give everyone the equal amount of respect, which I think you should do all the time anyway. Exactly.
No, you're completely right. We, um, we done a, um,
a stint in Harrods this year, never been done before. So we had five supercars and hypercars, if you will,
in the window of Harrods. Now Harrods have never sold cars before. And they approached us and we were in Harrods for the month of March. And I was there every day sort of working the stand.
and I sold a car to a Chinese guy.
who
approached the stand literally wearing his pajamas
just got out of bed with bed hair
with slippers on. He obviously... My...
observation was he hasn't walked from Bradford to get here.
Like, he is...
He obviously lives 50 yards away. Yes. Yes. So I want to talk to that guy
The guys with backpacks and hats and stuff they're on it. They're on a mission. They've come from Aberdeen That guy
- Came downstairs. - Like, come here for a phone charge. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Came downstairs from Aaron. - So, anyway, long story short, I ended up selling my car.
And my guy who was on the sunroom, he was like, why would you talk to him?
And then I explained to him the reason why I would talk to him. I'd talk to anybody anyway, but he was just he made one of to me
He held a big sign above his head
saying,
I look like I've got no money, but really I've got loads. You know? Because you just weighed up the situation. Yeah. I was speaking with my shirt maker. My shirt maker is a man named Sean. I won't say his last name, but he works on Savile Row. And he's 65, maybe years of age, gray hair, old school tailor. I tell him off all the time because it's always sir with me. Yes, sir. No, sir. Stand this way, sir. Put your arms up, sir. I'm like, Sean, you're sir to me. You're a Savile Row tailor who's old enough to be my father. You are sir. I'm not sir.
but old habits die hard. He still calls me sir all the time. Now I was speaking with them and I'm one of their best customers, I'll say. And he goes, well, compared to we make all this stuff for like the big hunts and stuff and all the, you know, the fox hunting stuff and make a lot of massive orders. But for individuals,
"You're one of our biggest customers ever." That was kind of a mark of pride.
"One of your biggest." So who's, he goes, "The guys who are our biggest customers "at this store in Savile Row, you'd never guess." And they told me a very similar story.
They said, "A man once came in.
a Chinese guy with holes in his jeans and black leather shoes that had been worn so badly, there was almost holes in the bottom. And I thought, okay, let me entertain this guy. And we took him in and did the measurements and
you know,
and he was very quiet, he didn't say much, he didn't make much conversation.
And he did all these measurements and stuff.
And, uh,
on his first ever order,
He took out these books of material. If you've ever been to a tailor, they've got all these, all the Lora Piana cloths, all the various fancy cloths. He took some books of material,
He took about eight or nine that he liked.
And he put them in a pile and he said, "One suit in all of this."
and his first order was like 900,000 pounds.
And I thought he was joking.
And then he called...
a phone number, he spoke in Chinese. A beautiful Chinese lady pulled up in a Rolls Royce, got out,
Filled in all the paperwork for him and he got into the back of the car and I just thought that was mental. They had no idea who this guy was. Some guy, this Chinese guy with holes in his shoes basically walking around this shop on Savile Row. Spent like 900 grand in his first order. There are people out there who are,
Sleepers, you wouldn't guess, you wouldn't know.
Do you think they do that on purpose to stay under the radar? Maybe. And if that's what works best for them, fine. Me flying above the radar is good for me. That's the reason I do it. If it was bad for me, I wouldn't do it.
I mean,
has been bad for me. Well, you know, you have to take the bad with the good. But yeah, I totally get people who are Richard and, you know,
than most people on the planet and no one knows who they are. I'm envious in a way. If that worked for me, maybe I'd like to do that. But you have to play to your strengths.
What happened on the track with the Pagani?
broke the Pagani by. So you know cars very well, so you will know exactly what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
The Paganis like,
making love to a gymnast or ballet dancer, you know?
knows all the tricks very, very well. Now, she's a gymnast, she's a ballet dancer. She may not be the perfect in every single way, but knows all the tricks. The Bugatti,
is a fat chick who only gives good blowjobs. She's got one trick. There's one thing it does well. I mean, all around it's all right, but that's why you go to her, you know? The Bugatti has the, "I'm gonna put my foot down in this car, and it's gonna smoke everything in the world." That's what it does well. It's got that one trick that defeats everything, you know?
So here we are on this track and I'm trying to keep up. There's a Porsche on the track. There's a McLaren on the track. There's a Lamborghini on the track and there's a Pagani on the track. And I'm in the Bugatti and it's not a track with a lot of straights.
The Bugatti's very heavy.
They know it's very heavy, I'm not criticizing the car. I'm trying my best to keep up on these straights. The tires are screeching and stuff, even with the four wheel drive. And these cars are just not making too much noise, but they're just edging ahead of me.
just flying ahead of me and I'm trying my absolute best to wrestle this thing around the track. And I get onto the straight.
I'm like, all right, well, you know, it's showtime. So I put my foot down. I fly past the McLaren. I fly past Andrews Pagani easily.
But because I was going probably close to 200 miles an hour,
A stone on the track was flicked up by my tire, and it smashed the entire glass roof of the Pagani. And all the glass fell onto my cousin while he was driving. And I was just like, um...
Yeah, that's what you get. That was not the windscreen, the roof. The roof and the Pagani is a glass. That was a six-figure repair. I know. That was a six-figure repair. Fuck.
But it's also a funny story. And also it's a kind of cool story that I can publish because
You know, it doesn't reflect badly on any brand. Pagati did nothing wrong. Pagani did nothing wrong. But people don't typically take their million-dollar Paganis
onto tracks for that reason. - Or in that case, a $4 million Pagani. - Yeah, it was. I said millions, but I didn't wanna, I didn't wanna sound like I was bragging, but yeah, a $4 million car onto tracks, but we do, because that's what they're for. Same reason I drive my Aston. So it's a funny story, but yeah, I did, I did kind of break the Pagani. - Any other stories?
car related that haven't been sort of, I knew that because I seen the real or Instagram post or something. Is there any that
no one knows about or hasn't been publicized? There's one that's not that famous, but it was in one of our vlogs.
the uh the speed racing title of all the cars in the house we always leave
various restaurants and various establishments at the same time. We're like, who's going to get home first? And we take different routes and we speed race home, etc. The champion of that actually was the McLaren 765LT, because it's really nippy and it's really quick. And one day Andrew was in the 765LT and I beat him home.
in the LADA. So, a few people know of this clip, but it was probably, have you ever laughed so uncontrollably hard while driving that you almost crash and kill yourself? So, there I am, giving it to Andrew, you can't beat the LADA, LADA's the best car in the world. We're at a place called,
I came from Casablanca Cafe, some place in the middle of the city anyway. And he's like, Tristan, you're an idiot. I'll see you at home. So I piled a lot in with three guys in the back and one guy next to me, which reduces the top speed by about 100%.
It now does 11 miles an hour. I get this lot out.
And I'm hammering it. My gear changes are perfect. Tires are skidding. I'm watching the speedometer climb 21, 22 miles an hour. I'm drifting around in this Lada. And I'm driving just thinking, oh, it is what it is. But, you know, let's make the best of it.
As we make the final approach towards home, we're one kilometer from home. I see blue flashing lights on the side of the road. And as we drive past, windows down, Andrew's McLaren's pulled over in front of the police. Andrew even told me,
We were laughing so hard going past him and all the way down the street that the cops started laughing. And then he explained the situation to the cops and the cops let him go. But he did arrive home slightly after me. I pulled into the gate about to go in and then he pulls up the road and gets behind me.
So the champion street racing car that we own, because I won't rematch him, ever. You have no need to. No, of course, our retired as champ. The champion car, in terms of street racing around Bookerrest, that I own, is my Lada 1500. That's a great story. One and done. One and done. That's all I need.
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I don't care about your cars or your money.
I just love you for who you are. How does that make you feel?
What do you mean, if?
- It means when. - No, that does happen and has happened and it's,
you know,
It's very easy to think that
if you are a man with nothing that
because you have cars and you have money, if they see you, the beautiful girl, you're like, "Oh, girl likes cars and money."
If I had cars and money, maybe I could get the girl. What the cars and money really give you is your pick of the litter. It gives you the selection. You're always around beautiful women. And from there, you have to judge them on a higher criteria, not just women who want to sleep with you. If you're an absolute nobody with nothing and a beautiful girl wants to sleep with you, you probably jump at the chance. And people say they wouldn't, but, you know, porn addictions off the...
"bloody charts these days, so they certainly know what, "they wish they weren't there, like,
they are coping. So what it does is it gives you the pick of the litter, but some of the best compliments I get from women is, especially when I'm around high value guys,
Um,
In fact, like yourself, because this has actually happened, when speaking to you. You'll sit around and stand with your friends and the woman will be largely silent. She'll be standing there on your arms, sipping away at her champagne. You're having these conversations with these guys, these high level men. Keep in mind, a lot of the men who are trying to impress these women are super superficial.
"Hey babe, I've got a nice car and a nice watch." It doesn't really work. Or they're such low-level, low-frequency men that they're sitting around talking about,
Did you see the football game last night? And women don't find it interesting. But a lot of the times I walk away from meetings with men that I take dates on and they'll be like, you know what? You and your friends,
Like the level of that conversation that you were having, the things you spoke to these people about. I just I've just never been in a room with people like that before.
I think that's one of the highest compliments that I get, because it's a compliment to both myself and the company I keep.
And I really liked that. So these things are said to me.
Quite often. If. If. I'm furious. This show's over.
I can't storm off because it's my house. No, I'm joking. But yeah, it's... Yeah, I mean, she's a keeper. That's all good. Part of the reason I asked that was because...
Andrew said the opposite to me.
He said, women love me because of what I've got.
That's what it is. It's a financial exchange. Everything is an exchange.
Well, that is true.
Just like men who have no choice, they have one fat ugly wife, they're a pub guy, they have no money,
They'll be like, "I never cheated on my wife." I'm like, "Yeah, but have you ever really been tempted?"
An example was given that I saw about corruption. There's this African lady very smart speaking saying I know that the poor people are
hate corruption, they say the corrupt politicians are destroying Nigeria.
But...
Poor people think they'd never do it, but you've never had a chance to be corrupt. You've never had the corruption offer made to you. And
with women,
They pretend
that the money and the cars and the big house isn't attractive to them. But on a, on a,
on a psychological basis.
prime
instinct that they can't shake, it absolutely is.
provider. They see it, it goes off in their head, and they may think they don't and they may think, "Well, this guy makes funny jokes."
and sit in his Lamborghini laughing, thinking he's so funny. That's the reason I like him. But every single woman, although they may find more to you,
is attracted by that.
And there are women who will argue with this and say, absolutely not. That's not true.
So, I think that's a good question.
But I think it is true.
So Andrew is right. I don't know exactly what he said,
But I would try to even rephrase what you said he said, because I understand him very well.
I wouldn't say the women are with me.
because of the cars and the money and the lifestyle.
but the women were certainly initially attracted to me.
by the cars, the money, and the lifestyle.
I think there are women who I've met in my life, plenty of them, where if I went broke, would still be my girlfriend.
but to lie and say that that's not what initially caught their interest.
would be
me like saying
like me saying,
I really love this girl, great personality
great, you know, woman,
takes care of me.
I really love on a very deep level.
But when I saw her in the, wherever I saw her, on the street or in the club, wherever I made my approach, I didn't think, ooh, that personality, did I?
No, it was the looks, it was the legs, it was the dress. It was something that initially, it was the bait that got me hooked.
So it is the bait that gets women hooked, and it's certainly what they all see subconsciously or consciously.
So I would say it's why they were attracted
to him or me, your most high value men in the first place.
That doesn't mean they don't really love us.
Let me ask you a question Rob How many?
Beautiful women
do you see
with Broke Guys.
Mm-hmm.
Because I went out to a restaurant last night. It's not in the new Jameera. I was trying to find it's it's not many which which was a beautiful restaurant called the Cullinan in the new I only went after a car. Anyway, got there and.
I'm sat with my wife.
and
There was just...
There's just beautiful people everywhere.
and the array of cars parked outside of this hotel was like I emptied the showroom.
and just park them all outside.
So everyone in there
had money.
And they also had a beautiful woman.
And I'm looking for
Just...
an average person just didn't exist. And if you go down to the pub in Scunthorpe, the women just don't quite have the shine that the women in Miami, Dubai and Tokyo do, don't they? You know, you go down to a pub in Grimsby, it's just not the same. I wonder why that is.
Or I wonder if it's the beautiful women who are born in Grimsby or born in Scunthorpe.
Are on Instagram and then they get invited to Dubai and you know, they may well have been sitting in the cullinan last night with you 100% there we go. Yeah, so
So it works both ways, doesn't it?
How do you mean? Well, you know, the initial attraction, like Tristan said. You know, if a successful man... Now, I'm no, you know, psychologist, but a successful man...
has a high opinion of himself.
I think I have a high opinion of myself. Yeah, whether it's true or not. It's my opinion. It's the most opinion that counts the most to me
And I'll I
-
I want to drive a nice car. I want to have a beautiful wife.
They're two important things to me.
um and i can't i'm not saying everyone is exactly the same but
I think a lot of people are.
and a man is physically attracted
to a woman, just, it's natural.
Mm-hmm.
The ugly
Not so successful guys are not attracted to the 10 out of 10s because they're out of their league They don't think they can get them. So yeah, I don't even well her. I'm not she's I bet she's not my tight She's thick. I bet she's they make cope. Yeah, but so it's easy. That's that is not your level like that You're not gonna get that
Someone with a very high opinion and a lot of confidence and who thinks, you know what? There's nothing I can't do. I can do whatever I want.
they are attracted to that, and then she, in return, is attracted to him, not necessarily because of the wealth, but that's what comes with that personality.
Let me tell you a fable that I wrote myself. I made it up and I posted it on Twitter. It's a moral story.
about the way that the top 1% or 2% of the world live and the bottom 98%.
And the story goes like this.
an international model.
in New York City.
goes on a date with a billionaire.
They're sitting in the window.
of a restaurant.
And because she's an international model, she sits there and speaks to him about all the various places she's been, how she's traveled the world.
how her modeling contract has opened all these various doors, where her favorite fashion brands are.
the way that she likes different types of jewelry. And she's tried on various items for photo shoots, the beautiful beaches she's been on, and telling this man all of her life story. And he's taken in by it because it's interesting.
And he's listening to her. And then when he gets to talking about himself...
He describes his rags to riches story, how he came up in the business world, how he made it to Wall Street.
how he became a multimillionaire.
You know, how he became successful when he bought his first tailored suit, when he bought his first car, the things he's done with his money, the charity he does. And these two people sit and they exchange this.
amazing conversation because she's a beautiful international model and because he's a Wall Street billionaire.
- Yeah.
Someone takes a photo of them.
From the window.
and posts it.
on Instagram.
"A fat and ugly couple,
in Lugeton, England, sees the picture and says, pfft,
They're just together because she's holding his money.
And these two people met because they worked at the same office or drank at the same pub.
and have never exchanged conversation on that level, and have absolutely no
no scope of the world to even understand the things these two people are saying that have made them interesting.
They see...
Leggy model with money must be dumb.
attracted to him because he has money, man with money.
purely transactional.
These are the most interesting relationships in the world.
but the people who don't operate on that level see it as superficial.
because their minds aren't
I guess
their minds aren't open enough to understand what's really going on.
- Hmm. - You know? And it's like, oh, why did you marry my wife? We met her down at the pub when I was 19 and just, yeah.
Been with her ever since.
Like, what do they talk about? You know? So I think that's a very profound tweet I put out about four or five years ago. And I think it stands very true. So you'll be in, like you just described that restaurant.
And people who don't operate on that level will see that as a...
Gold diggers chasing guys with money, guys with money chasing hoes.
which may be the case in some of those, on some of those tables, and I'm not saying it isn't.
What I'm saying is,
Don't judge a book by its cover.
If Dubai made a law,
that
Your cars couldn't be above 200 horsepower and you couldn't have your larder, would you leave?
So you couldn't own a car every time you lost a car. I'm a big believer in national sovereignty and the will of the native people. As you know, these are my views on every country.
If Dubai made a law about anything I disliked,
I wouldn't certainly
criticize them for doing it. This is their country.
THAT'S FINE.
Um,
Same with Romania, where I am a guest. If they made a law saying you can't have cars above a certain horsepower, that is their country. They have the prerogative to do this, and I wouldn't even criticize them for it. However, it would put me off most countries.
but I would still have some type of base here in Dubai.
Here in business space, there's traffic anyway. I still would come here, do business here, meet people here, network with people here. Because driving in Dubai, I mean, Dubai have made
strict traffic laws. They've got cameras everywhere. You're not allowed to speed. If you jump a red light, you will flash up on your phone and you'll get this massive ticket that can digitally
What's the word? Digitally impound your cars if you're going too fast. So they have got these very strict laws on fast cars.
But that's fine.
This is their country and I have no problem with it. But because of that, I do like to go to Europe.
to break speeding laws, you know? So if you're a multifaceted man, you'll find a way around it. And I'd simply move my cars, but I would have a financial base here of some sorts. And then again, I'd be driven around in those escalades.
which is perfectly fine. I do that most of the time anyway. Yeah. I mean, in my opinion here, the best thing,
You just have
a nice but understated car. I'm quite up for those.
BM 7 series those are very nice inside. It's got everything that the Maybachs have there and you're not noticed Yeah, I would say they're more comfortable than Maybachs. They're more comfortable. I I had a I
on a...
a wealthy Dubai businessman.
gave me
a car when I came here last time, it was a Bentley Flying Spur.
And I was sitting in the back of it and it was okay. It's pretty nice. And then I got an Uber and it was BMW 7 Series. And I was like, this is so much better. - You know? - Yeah, they've done really well with those. - Yeah, yeah. - Isn't like one of the best things in the world to be able to be like a place in Dubai, not have to get a Kareem,
Yeah, yeah. Two of those fuckers have tried to rip me off since then. I must look like the most dumb English person ever. Like, on the way to your event yesterday. Has my butler told you that we're charging for this podcast? Or, you know, just cash is fine. Just pay on your way out. Do you know what I love about Dubai, though? I realised this last night.
Everything is a negotiation.
Everything.
Well, of course you love that. Yeah, exactly. I fucking hate it. I just want to relax. I got out of a taxi last night. It's Arabic culture, kind of. I like it. And to get to the restaurant was 100 dirham to 25 quid.
20 quid, whatever. To get back was 150 dirham.
I mean, the same quality of...
BMW 5 Series, whatever, right?
Now, 50 dirham.
is 10 pounds.
I thoroughly enjoyed arguing with the taxi driver last night. Purely for principle. Yeah, just for fun. I'm like, yeah. And my wife was like,
I do ever just keep just fucking paying you ever just let someone get their way. I'm like no fuck you
Did you get it for a hundred dear? Of course I did. Yeah
But it's the yeah, it's the culture of different countries. Yeah, a lot of Arabic cultures and even North African culture and stuff. That's what it's like. You gotta play. There's no prices on anything. Yeah, it's just like, yeah, I kind of enjoy that too. I find it tiring. Uh, just tell me the fucking price. Yes, sometimes but now I only because you don't live here. You don't have your own driver here.
So I do it by choice. If I want to go somewhere with this bartering involved, I don't take taxes.
stuff so I'm never forced into it so I have the perfect car that I bought
four days ago
to be driven in.
It's the only car I'd be driven in after now owning this car. It is the bollocks of a car.
It's a 1970 Mercedes 600 grocer.
Right. So this is basically... Aren't those the cars that dictate... I was going to say. Yeah. Yeah. Kim Il-sung had one. Yeah. Everyone had one. Back in the day, whoever you were...
- Mark McCann got one of those. - I bought it from Mark McCann. - Right, yeah. - Oh, there we go. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, exactly. - They're fucking massive. - Yeah, do you know what?
There is nothing cooler to turn up to somewhere in.
than that car with the driver. It's total...
Like, it's the biggest flex there is. You pull up... But is that not... That's, like, antithesis of...
Being driven though.
I just want to get in the back, do my work. Get there comfortable, quiet, relaxed, hydrated, bit of air cooling.
Yeah.
Style, man.
*laughs*
When was the last time you seen a 600 grocer on the road?
I've never seen one exactly my point. I saw I saw one in a collection just the other day here in Dubai, but it wasn't driving Yeah, but can you imagine the habit of being moot and they're not it's not a lot of money. I
How much? - Oh yeah, oh yeah. - Like 130 grand, this car is totally restored. I mean, it's just, it's ready to go, it's perfect.
Big V8 six point.
6.3...
Litre.
V8 engine.
In the 1970s car?
Wow. And I think that's the difference between old and new money, because some people assume...
old money is a flex if they're new money and new money is a flex if they're old money
It's all a flex, it's just how you do it. Yeah, exactly. It's a matter of style. Yeah. If you've got an understated Patek, I've bought these old Pateks, partly because I don't want anyone to know what they are. So when I'm in London, they don't know what they are, because they'll know what this one is. Exactly. But I'm still going, look at my 70s Patek. I like to think I'm not flexing, but I am. Yeah.
Because it's still a Patek. I have an Omega from the 1980s, and it's actually not very expensive.
but very rare, it's the watch from Scarface.
It's called the Omega La Magique. They made them for Scarface, then the movie flopped, and then they stopped making them. Then VHS came out, then the movie boomed, and they still didn't make any more. So it's a very famous watch. That's a very old watch. And again,
Not very flashy. But I've got a few things like that. Yeah. And what situation would you wear a watch like that? Black tie.
If I go black, it's golden black. If I'm wearing like a darker black tie look, cravat bow tie, that's what I'd wear. And I do wear it at those things.
And did you really buy like supercars for staff? Because some people are debating if that... 100%.
Guys who worked for me and guys who are loyal to me. - So more than one? - Guys who, more than one.
In fact, I've bought supercars outright for probably
six people now in my life.
Wow. And, um,
I can't actually, if I were to tell you off camera the reasons why I think these guys deserve supercars, you'd be like, yeah.
I get it, but I can't really discuss it on camera. It's nothing illegal, but it's just very personal.
Yeah.
Yeah, my friend, you know,
they would do the same for me.
So one of the best things about being in a position that I'm in
is I used to sit around with some of my friends
after a training session.
And like one of my friends who's here right now, his brother,
was trying to make it in the music industry in America. And it was looking good for him. You know, he's still doing okay, but he didn't blow up into the next Michael Jackson or whatever. But, you know, while we were discussing his brother, we just said, look, it's just one of us makes it.
If one of us makes it, it's all going to be fine. We'll still hang out. We'll still be there, but we'll be in the good spots and life will be better. And I think the group of friends I had has always been one of my greatest assets. And now...
There are people who you've walked past, who are in this house right now, I've known 20 years, 21 years, these guys are here.
Because if they had made it, I'd be with them.
And they haven't done badly.
At all.
But, you know, me and Andrew have done so exceptionally well that I can just take everyone with me. And that's one of the greatest pleasures of having money.
And that feels better than making a billion dollars?
Yeah, I would rather have $10 million and all my friends around me than a billion dollars just with Andrew or by myself.
Mm.
And how do you keep long friendships?
Yes.
I think if you have to, if you could answer that question, you wouldn't have friendships.
If I had to think about how I keep my friendships, that's not friendship.
You don't think about it.
I'd like to think in 10, 20 years, I'll still know you.
And I don't think you or I will ever wake up in the morning and say, Oh, how can I keep Rob as my friend? How can I keep Tristan as my friend? If you have to think about that question at all, then you don't have friendships.
So the answer is I have no clue.
Just happens.
Is there a
an idea that you keep long friendships by becoming a person that is
valuable and likeable.
Yes, that is very true, but that's not necessarily...
financial likability.
I'll give you an example that happened just a few weeks ago. This house
when I first got the doors open,
All the doors were unlocked. The elevator system went to anywhere, and all the doors were open, because it was still listed as a construction site. There's only seven or eight units in this building that are done. This is done. A lot of them are still under construction, so all the construction workers can freely use the lifts.
And the first few nights I was here, that was the case. The locks and the face ID on the doors hadn't been set up.
So I had to fly out of Dubai for two days, and I packed a bunch of watches and a bunch of cash and a bunch of stuff into a bag.
And I gave it to my friend. I said, "Keep this in your room. Keep an eye on it. There's workers coming in and out. You know, I know Dubai's safe, but if they weren't missing, I wouldn't know who to blame."
So I said, "Hey, you're keeping an eye on this stuff."
His name's Marcel, I've known him 21 years.
And he looks at me and goes, "You know, it's wild.
as well. He said
Back in Luton.
when I was on the estate.
there were guys who'd come to me and my friends and say, "Look,
My mate's got 10 grand under his mattress.
Now, I'm his mate, I can't do it, but you should go rob him.
AND HE SAYS, "HOW MUCH IS THIS BAG YOU JUST GAVE ME WORTH, OUT OF
well over $2 million.
And he's like, isn't that cool?
that we made it here because we have that kind of code.
that you could trust me with this sort of thing.
And obviously he paid a bunch of stupid jokes on me. He sent me a message. I'm traveling, I'm busy. Opened my phone and said, Marcel, and I can only see the words. It says...
"Mate, you've got a big problem. Some of your watches have gone missing. I've opened the drawer." And I panic and I open it. I look at the picture and the drawer's open and it's empty, but he's got four APs on his arm. I was just like, "You dickhead." You know, but obviously that was hilarious. So yeah, he got me.
What's the most amount of money you've made in one deal, transaction, just...
The Lump.
income revenue in a day,
before we got attacked, there were days when
People were the news of what our online educational platform was, how fast it was spreading, etc. In terms of turnover, there were million dollar days of turnover. But even at that point, it was a lot of reinvestment back into the business. I don't really know.
I can't, I can't,
Name an exact number and an exact date, if that makes sense. But I've made a lot of money some days. But millions in a day and tens of millions north in a deal. Yeah.
- Yeah. - For sure. - Can you talk about the Misfits deal?
I'll leave that to Andrew, but what I will say is what you read on the internet is true.
KSI has been fired by MAMS, the majority owner.
Andrew and I are now part owners. Andrew is the new CEO. That is all legit. It is not hype to build up a fight. Exactly what numbers are behind that is not my business to discuss. I'll leave it. I'll leave that to Andrew. But um,
Yeah, it's not just to sell a fight and to ultimately build a new match between Andrew and KSI, who's ousted. That's all just completely legit. Do you know why KSI was fired?
I know that Andrew is a better communicator and a better internet marketer. So any, any shareholders of any company would be smart to swap them out with Andrew.
That would just make sense. So. Tristan, are you misunderstood?
only on purpose.
I'm misrepresented by the media, so people who understand me through the media
Do not understand me.
which doesn't bother me at all because they're not judging
Me, they're judging a character.
written.
by the Daily Mail and the BBC.
And, you know, these stories that they get told, they can form their opinion on. But when I mean it hurts me zero, it hurts me zero because that isn't Tristan Tate that you are discussing when you're talking about how much you hate him and what a bad person he is. Am I misunderstood?
By anyone who knows me? No.
You know me. I think you understand me quite well.
You've just met me, but after this conversation, I think you'll understand me quite well. No one walks away from me.
and misunderstands me, 'cause I make myself very clear, I'm misrepresented.
by a media who wants to demonize me, and that's fine too.
Mm.
And then the final question.
biggest
mistake or regret.
I don't really have
any regrets because
There are millions of things.
that I would have done differently.
knowing what I know now. I'm sure you and you have exactly the same
outlook. But
"When you're happy where you are,
you stop complaining about the road you took.
While you're on the road, it's bumpy.
But when you reach your destination, you're glad you've driven it.
So I don't live in the realm of regret, because although as a 37-year-old man, I would do many things in my past very differently. And there are things I did in the past I wouldn't do today.
I was a man doing the best I could, a boy even at some points, doing the best I could with what I knew at the time.
And it led me to somewhere that I'm happy with.
I've never committed a crime.
I've never...
gone out of my way to cause harm to anybody.
So...
No, I don't have any regrets.
I am always very grateful when I do the shows with you. Thank you for bringing us. I think this is the first show here. It is. It is the first. It may be. This is the second piece of content ever filmed here. Wow. The intro to the penthouse was filmed.
And this is the second piece of content ever filmed in this penthouse. Well, I feel very honored. Tristan, thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.